Utilité de la tente, réchaud, en voyage à vélo en Asie du Sud-Est
by Copaing
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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salut à tous, je pars bientot me promener à vélo en thaillande, laos, cambodge, vietnam et peut-etre aussi malaisie. j'aimerai savoir si c'est utile de s'encombrer de tente, réchaud, casserole et tout le matos de camping dans ces pays. A ce que j'ai compris le camping est mal vu et les hotels et la bouffe sont pas cher mais sachant que ma moyenne est de 100km par jours, parfois moins de 50km si je démare tard, est-ce que c'est sur de trouver des hotels (pas chers) partout ou le cas échéant de pouvoir dormir chez l'habitant.
autre question: quel est la destination la moins chère pour arriver en avion, est-il possible de prendre un aller simple car j'aimerai éviter de devoir revenir d'ou je suis parti.
merci d'avance aux habitués pour vos conseils
à vélo en thaillande, laos, cambodge, vietnam et peut-etre aussi malaisie. j'aimerai savoir si c'est utile de s'encombrer de tente, réchaud, casserole et tout le matos de camping dans ces pays. A ce que j'ai compris le camping est mal vu et les hotels et la bouffe sont pas cher mais sachant que ma moyenne est de 100km par jours, parfois moins de 50km si je démare tard, est-ce que c'est sur de trouver des hotels (pas chers) partout ou le cas échéant de pouvoir dormir chez l'habitant.
Bonjour,
personnellement je ne vois pas l'utilité du materiel de camping, et je voyage sans.
Les moteurs de recherche t'informeront sur les billets les moins cher (Bangkok???)
Luc Prés de Surin
Bonjour,
personnellement je ne vois pas l'utilité du materiel de camping, et je voyage sans.
Les moteurs de recherche t'informeront sur les billets les moins cher (Bangkok???)
Luc Prés de Surin
tu feras 50 klm dans le sud est asiatique, et tu balanceras tout par dessus bord,
faire du vélo dans le coin est très dur, du a la chaleur et le taux d'humidité, il n'y a que des farangs pour le faire, et si en plus on trimballe sa maison, , ,
tu ne mourras pas de faim, et si il n'y a pas d'hôtels, et que tu est du Genre masculin, tu peut dormir dans les temples, ( si tu connais la conduite requise, , )
je tire mon chapeaux a tout ceux qui ont fait le tour, , ,
je tire mon chapeaux a tout ceux qui ont fait le tour, , ,
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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Il est clair que ca depend où tu vas et quelle route tu prends. Je pense que si tu as un guide tu sais d avance ou trouver environ qque endroit pour dormir ou manger. Juste que si tu as une petite tente t es vraiment tranquille, au cas oû...une tente c est qu un kg max, et un sursac en coton, y en a des pas chers à BKK. j'ai quand meme vu des endroits au laos, ou tu fais pas 100 km en un jour! A moins que t es sans charge! Quand ca monte, c ets facile 12-15 % sous 70% d humidité et 40°. A mon avis le rechaud t as pas besoin, tu prends un Tuperware, et ds les gargottes tu mets un plat dedans a manger froid le soir au cas ou...ou qques bananes, chips etc, tu prends de quoi manger froid et tu manges chaud ds les gargottes.
Si tu es hébergé dans un temple, tu peux faire une offrande, ça me parait même la moindre des choses. Le comportement à respecter est celui que tu aurais en tout lieu saint, ne pas se balader torse nu par exemple! Les moines sont accueillants et tolérants, tu peux simplement leur demander la conduite à tenir si tu as des doutes.En Asie du sud-est où j'ai pas mal roulé, j'avais au début une tente mais l'ai peu utilisée, une seule fois au Vietnam, jamais au Cambodge, 3 ou 4 fois en Thailande, 1 fois au Laos.Après je l'ai abandonnée.A toi de faire le choix, tu peux t'en passer, tu peux aussi te retrouver dans un coin où tu ne trouveras rien, ce qui est rare en Asie du sud-est mais ça m'est arrivé, mais tu peux aussi de temps en temps avoir envie d'être seul.S'il ne pleut pas, tu peux bivouaquer sur un matelas sous moustiquaire, ce que j'ai fait une fois en Birmanie.Tu peux aussi prendre un tarp avec piquet.
Je repars bientôt pour une virée dans l'est de la Thailande, et au sud du Laos, et j'emmène une tente de 1 kg.J'emmène un réchaud très léger aussi, 77g + une cartouche, même si je ne m'en sers pas, ç'est pas lourd.Mais comme l'a dit Gaets, tu peux manger froid pour le peu de fois où tu ne trouverais rien le soir.
Je préfère avoir 1 ou 2 kg de plus et être libre, ça ne m'empèche pas de voyager léger en Asie du sud-est.
En Thailande, il y a des parcs nationaux équipés d'aires de camping, avec souvent une ambiance sympa, guitares et chants, jusque tard dans la nuit...
Thaïlande/Laos à vélo 2017/2018 voir récit, itinéraire et photos sur mon site
Pour l'avion, ça te reviendra je pense moins cher de prendre par exemple un A/R pour Bangkok, et si tu finis à Singapour ou ailleurs, tu trouveras un vol pas cher pour revenir à Bangkok, que de prendre un aller, puis un retour d'une autre ville. Les tarifs aller sont presque aussi chers que les A/R.
Thaïlande/Laos à vélo 2017/2018 voir récit, itinéraire et photos sur mon site
merci pour tes conseils. je n'ai fait qu'un long voyage suisse-egypte et en europe (parce que c'est trop cher), turquie, syrie, jordanie et sinai j'aurai été bien emmerdé sans mon primus ma casserole et ma tente donc environ 20kg de sacoches + la bouffe et 12 litres d'eau pour des étapes de désert. tu dis que tu prends un petit réchaud, tu peux prendre des cartouches de gaz en avion?
j'aimerai aussi savoir question climat et masse touristique vu que je pars dans 2 semaines pour au moin 6 mois si c'est mieux d'aller d'abord au nord ou au sud et vaut mieux se retrouver où en été pour la saison des pluies?
la malaisie, bien?
j'aimerai aussi savoir question climat et masse touristique vu que je pars dans 2 semaines pour au moin 6 mois si c'est mieux d'aller d'abord au nord ou au sud et vaut mieux se retrouver où en été pour la saison des pluies?
la malaisie, bien?
Pour le billet d'avion, avec la Thai, j'ai un aller Paris Bangkok pour le mois de février, et un retour Bali Paris pour fin juin. Le billet est à 1060 euros, modifiable gratuitement pendant 6 mois....
Ju PS/ par contre, je ne sais pas trop comment je vais faire pour transporter le vélo..... Certains me disent qu'avec la Thai, on paie une taxe.... d'autres non....
Ju PS/ par contre, je ne sais pas trop comment je vais faire pour transporter le vélo..... Certains me disent qu'avec la Thai, on paie une taxe.... d'autres non....
vaviju..... et deviens!
il fait bien frais dans le nord en decemnbre et janvier 10a 12 degres la nuit en montagne c'est a dire a 1000 ou 1400 m d'altitude
J'achèterai le gaz à Bangkok (à valve msr ou coleman).En Thailande, Laos, il faisait frais dans le nord, ça frisait les 0° la nuit.Il y a beaucoup de monde dans les coins touristiques, Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, ... mais c'est supportable, et à vélo, on a la chance de trouver des coins plus sauvages.
Si tu pars 6 mois, pas facile d'éviter les grosses chaleurs, et les pluies.Au Vietnam, pays tout en longueur, il y a toujours une zone praticable.
Il me semble que le mieux serait de descendre du nord au sud, et de te retrouver en Malaisie puis Singapour vers avril, mai.J'avais bien aimé la Malaisie, par la côte est, malgré quelques bonnes pluies ( fin février, début mars ).Si tu as le temps, tu peux de Singapour rejoindre en bateau Sumatra, où ça doit être OK en avril/mai, ou Bornéo en avion de Johor Bahru.
Je pars aussi dans 2 semaines, mais je fais escale 3 petites semaines au Sri Lanka avant de voler sur Bangkok.
Pour en revenir à tente et réchaud, l'Asie du sud-est est beaucoup mieux pourvue en points de ravitaillement et hotels ou possibilités d'hébergement que les coins que tu as déjà parcourus.
Thaïlande/Laos à vélo 2017/2018 voir récit, itinéraire et photos sur mon site
Le risque est minime, mais on ne peut jamais répondre avec certitude à ce genre de question.Il y a en principe toujours moyen de laisser le vélo à la vue de quelqu'un. Pour le vélo fans la chambre, en principe pas de problème. Sinon demander à le mettre dans un endroit sûr.
Thaïlande/Laos à vélo 2017/2018 voir récit, itinéraire et photos sur mon site
La tente, le réchaud et la popote, c'est aussi utile qu'une paire de bottes dans le désert en été !!! Je blague mais les guesthouses sont bon marché et la nourriture délicieuse + deux fois une heure économisées chaque matin et chaque soir + interdiction de planter + découverte des hospitaliers souvent sympathiques dans les petits bleds perdus... En plus, quand tu seras ds les montagnes du Laos, tu verras qu'il peut faire un peu frais et que la chambre à trois euros vaut le coup !!! Parole de cyclotouriste austère... 2.500 kms en Thaïlande et Laos cet été en 6 semaines et "à la dure..." C'est-à-dire avec un petit petit budget (<8 euos/j.) mais gros mollets... Juste une info : peu de guesthouses entre Kasi et Luang Phabang au Laos avec route assez "sportive" question effort mais bien bitumée... Partir très tôt l matin est recommandé histoire d'anticiper le coucher !!! A part ça bonne route, bo vent et éclate-toi. Pars léger, léger tu avanceras plus vite et plus loin !!! N'oublie pas de t'alléger un max... Parole de vieux routard. Eclate-toi en tt cas...
A l'est... Toujours à l'est...
Plusieurs séjours en Thaïlande et Laos à bicyclette et jamais aucun pb : un ami dans chaque ville, un copain dans chaque bar... Tu "confies" la bicyclette au veilleur, au patron de l'hôtel ou au petit commerçant du marché et le lendemain tu la retrouves. Par ex. j'ai laissé pdt mes 6 semaines de voyage mon vélo avec casque, lunettes, gants... sur la selle et un tt petit cadenas léger et j'ai tjrs retrouvé le tout le lendemain ou à la fin de mes visites, sacoches intactes... N'oublie pas que ce n'est pas chez les locaux qu'il faut chercher les voleurs... Retiens bien ça et pars l'esprit léger... Bon voyage... Et ne te laisse pas submerger par le matériel... Et évite les gros cadenas de trois kilos... Pas très utiles, surtout dans les cols !!!
A l'est... Toujours à l'est...
t'as surement raison mais tu dis que les guest houses sont pas cher mais j'ai vu sur d'autres discussions et sites que c'est rarement moins de 7-10 euros et je trouve ca assez cher (syrie, jordanie, egypte: belle chambre propre, sanitaires a l'etage entre 1, 20 et 3euros, avec salle de bains entre 2, 50 et 4euros)
qu'en est-il vraiment? a part les temples il y a-t-il des solutions de logement moins chers genre hotels pour les locaux?
certains m'ont dit qu'il y a des aires de camping dans les réserves naturelles ce qui peut etre sympa et compenser les jours a l'hotel mais du coup il faut tout le matos, est-ce qu'il y en a beaucoups?
qu'en est-il vraiment? a part les temples il y a-t-il des solutions de logement moins chers genre hotels pour les locaux?
certains m'ont dit qu'il y a des aires de camping dans les réserves naturelles ce qui peut etre sympa et compenser les jours a l'hotel mais du coup il faut tout le matos, est-ce qu'il y en a beaucoups?
Salut copaing, j'ai traîné pour répondre mais je te confirme que l'on trouve en Thaïlande et au Laos dans toutes les villes des guesthouses à moins de 5 euros. Je te le confirme sans équivoque !!! Je dépense 100 euros par semaine sans me priver de rien mais en dormant dans de petits hôtels tjrs propres et en mangeant dans de petites gargottes dans les rues. Je n'ai jamais été malade... A plus. En revanche je n'ai jamais dormi dans les temples. Bon voyage et éclate-toi bien. Attention chaleur !
A l'est... Toujours à l'est...
Est-ce que tu as parcouru le plateau des Bolovens? Je pense que ça doit valoir le coup d'y bivouaquer.J'ai parfois besoin d'être seul dans la nuit dans la nature.Quand il fait très chaud, on peut être bien mieux dehors.
Thaïlande/Laos à vélo 2017/2018 voir récit, itinéraire et photos sur mon site
Salut Sukothaî et Si Satchanalai c'est magnifique... Ensuite n'oublie pas que la Thaïlande, que je connais le mieux, c'est très grand et très beau... Laisse-toi aller et va où le coeur te mène, tu trouveras tjrs qq chose à manger et un endroit où dormir. N'hésite pas à éviter les trop fortes concentrations de farangs car ça change bcp les rapports avec les populations locales. Bon voyage
Au Laos, il y a soit le sud-est (Savannakhet et Pakse) et la "voie du Nord" qui part de Vieng Chiang puis Luang Phabang puis Udomxai, Luang Namtha et arrivée sur le Mékong et la Thaïlande... La route est magnifique, mais attention, peu de guesthouse entre la ville de Kasi et Luang Phabang. IL y a bien un village au milieu avec deux guesthouses accepatables mais je ne me rappelle pas le nom, prudence donc... Au Laos, prévoir qu'il n'y a plus bcp de vie et d'activité dans les villages après le coucher du soleil... Le VN, le Cambodge et la Malaisie je ne connais pas. Prévoir des patins de freins au Laos car on en trouve très peu dans ce pays, faire des stocks de pièces détachées. Acheter une roue de vélo en plus au cas où... Et des médicaments car au Laos il y a peu de pharamcie bien achalandées surtout dans le nord.
A l'est... Toujours à l'est...
salut
En fait ca depend comment tu veux voyager, pour ma part comme j avais tout le matos !et bien tout les soir (a part les villes bien sur !!), on plantait la tente dans un bout de riziere, une ecole, un terrain de foot, une foret, etc, etc
on sortait le rechaud pour se faire des soupes instantané ou rituellement tout les soir un thé .Lorsqu il faisais trop chaud, nous avions juste une moustiquiaire que nous attachions entre 2 arbres ou avec un systeme de cordes, apres c est clair que si nous n avions pas eu cela il aurais fallu plus demander au gens ou trouver d autres "combine "mais pour notre part nous faisions un voyage de plusieurs années et avions donc tout le matos avec nous !!
la vie est comme un livre, celui qui n'a pas voyagé n'en connais que la 1ere page.
3 ans et presque 10000km plus tard à vélo en thailande je clos mon post en confirmant qu'il n'est pas nécessaire de voyager avec tente réchaud en thailande. partout des gargotes et hotels/bungallows sinon chez l'habitant. sur 3 ans j'ai voyagé 18 mois à vélo et n'ai utilisé ma tente que 2 fois dans des parcs nationnaux (où il est possible d'en louer) donc mieux vaut voyager léger surtout qu'il fait chaud et que parfois il y a de sacrés dénivelés! (à partir de mi-mars ça devient pénible, 35-40° et fumées de paille de riz qu'ils crament pour resemer les champs)
3 ans et presque 10000km plus tard à vélo en thailande je clos mon post en confirmant qu'il n'est pas nécessaire de voyager avec tente réchaud en thailande. partout des gargotes et hotels/bungallows sinon chez l'habitant. sur 3 ans j'ai voyagé 18 mois à vélo et n'ai utilisé ma tente que 2 fois dans des parcs nationnaux (où il est possible d'en louer) donc mieux vaut voyager léger surtout qu'il fait chaud et que parfois il y a de sacrés dénivelés! (à partir de mi-mars ça devient pénible, 35-40° et fumées de paille de riz qu'ils crament pour resemer les champs)
pour me répondre et pour ceux qui y tiendraient quand même j'avais trouvé des cartouches KOEVA à Bangkok mais attention il faut reussir à faire tenir la cartouche A L'ENVERS pour que le gaz sorte
pour me répondre et pour ceux qui y tiendraient quand même j'avais trouvé des cartouches KOEVA à Bangkok mais attention il faut reussir à faire tenir la cartouche A L'ENVERS pour que le gaz sorte
Petit message dans ce fil qui date bien maintenant...
Nous cherchons des conseils au sujet de la météo que nous pourrions trouver sur notre route lors d'un retours de Tokyo pour la France en 2 à 2,5 ans. Bon on sais bien que l'on va se taper des période de pluie et des bonnes chaleurs ci et là, l'idée c'est d'éviter la pire période dans un pays.
Vous avez l'aire bien au fait du sujet pour la régions Asie du sud-est, pourriez vous jeter un œil à notre post ici et nous donner un avis.
En gros les dates tombe comme ça : Japon = tout mars à mie avril Chine = mie avril à fin juin Vietnam = 3 semaines en juillet Laos = fin juillet à mie août Cambodge = mie août à mie septembre Thaïlande = mie août à 3ieme semaine d'octobre Myanmar = 3ieme semaine d'octobre à 1iere semaine de décembre Bangladesh = 2 semaine au milieu de décembre Inde = après ça pour quelques mois.....
Merci!
Nous cherchons des conseils au sujet de la météo que nous pourrions trouver sur notre route lors d'un retours de Tokyo pour la France en 2 à 2,5 ans. Bon on sais bien que l'on va se taper des période de pluie et des bonnes chaleurs ci et là, l'idée c'est d'éviter la pire période dans un pays.
Vous avez l'aire bien au fait du sujet pour la régions Asie du sud-est, pourriez vous jeter un œil à notre post ici et nous donner un avis.
En gros les dates tombe comme ça : Japon = tout mars à mie avril Chine = mie avril à fin juin Vietnam = 3 semaines en juillet Laos = fin juillet à mie août Cambodge = mie août à mie septembre Thaïlande = mie août à 3ieme semaine d'octobre Myanmar = 3ieme semaine d'octobre à 1iere semaine de décembre Bangladesh = 2 semaine au milieu de décembre Inde = après ça pour quelques mois.....
Merci!
Fred et Sveta
Nous avons pris la route en tandem pour 5 à 6 ans, après on fait des bébés!
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I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉