Visa USA - Canada - Alaska - Canada sans billet avion de sortie des USA avant 90 jours
by Ululu
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Nous prévoyons un voyage de 5 mois en Amérique du nord (après 1 mois 1/2 en Amérique centrale), dont moins de 90 jours aux USA: arrivée par avion à Los Angeles le 25 mars (depuis le Costa Rica), puis traversée par voie terrestre des USA, du Canada (passage de la frontière près de Vancouver vers le 20 mai), pour entrer en Alaska (donc à nouveau aux USA) le 30 mai et finalement en ressortir avant le 22 juin (pour respecter la limite de 90 jours consécutifs sur le territoire US, même avec un passage au Canada).
Nous quitterons ensuite le Canada par avion depuis Vancouver vers le 10 août, pour rentrer en France.
Nous nous demandons si nous pouvons bénéficier du programme d'exemption de visa (en demandant l'ESTA uniquement), alors que nous n'aurons pas de billet d'avion pour prouver notre sortie des USA dans les 90 jours qui suivent notre atterrissage à Los Angeles.
Faut-il des preuves supplémentaires de sortie du territoire, type billet de ferry USA- Canada ou billet d'avion remboursable pour le Costa Rica ?
Nous n'avons pas trouvé de cas qui corresponde au nôtre sur le forum, ou sur le site officiel de l'ambassade.
Merci pour votre aide !
Bonsoir,
Si, la première entrée aux USA se fait par avion, avec une arrivée à Los Angeles...
Si, la première entrée aux USA se fait par avion, avec une arrivée à Los Angeles...
" Nous ne saurons jamais tout le bien qu'un simple sourire peut être capable de faire."
Mère Teresa
Bonjour,
Je pense qu'il suffit d'avoir les billets retour Vancouver-Paris lors de l'arrivée aux USA le 25 mars. Ce sera la preuve que vous n'avez pas l'intention de faire juste un petit tour au Canada avant de revenir prolonger - illégalement - votre séjour aux USA. Le ferry USA-Canada ne prouve rien puisque c'est très facile de revenir aux USA par le même chemin. Pour le billet remboursable vers le Costa Rica, c'est risqué car c'est incohérent: venir du CR pour aller en Alaska et revenir ensuite au CR ?? et ensuite ou ? En quelques questions, l'agent de l'immigration US à l'arrivée peut se rendre compte que c'est bidon.
Il faut convaincre l'agent US que vous allez quitter l'Amérique du Nord (USA-Canada-Mexique) pour revenir en France; même si c'est après avoir encore passé un peu de temps au Canada, ce n'est pas un pb.
Je pense qu'il suffit d'avoir les billets retour Vancouver-Paris lors de l'arrivée aux USA le 25 mars. Ce sera la preuve que vous n'avez pas l'intention de faire juste un petit tour au Canada avant de revenir prolonger - illégalement - votre séjour aux USA. Le ferry USA-Canada ne prouve rien puisque c'est très facile de revenir aux USA par le même chemin. Pour le billet remboursable vers le Costa Rica, c'est risqué car c'est incohérent: venir du CR pour aller en Alaska et revenir ensuite au CR ?? et ensuite ou ? En quelques questions, l'agent de l'immigration US à l'arrivée peut se rendre compte que c'est bidon.
Il faut convaincre l'agent US que vous allez quitter l'Amérique du Nord (USA-Canada-Mexique) pour revenir en France; même si c'est après avoir encore passé un peu de temps au Canada, ce n'est pas un pb.
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Bonjour.
Votre cas n'est pas exceptionnel.
Il y a quand même pas mal de voyageurs qui arrivent aux USA et repartent du CANADA.
C'est prevu dans le reglement de l'ESTA : On demande d"Etre en possession d'un billet Aller-Retour ou d'un billet assurant la continuité du voyage hors des Etats-Unis d'Amérique"... donc votre billet retour depuis le CANADA suffit.
Enfin, comme vs arrivez aux USA par avion, (même si ce n'est pas de FRANCE) l'ESTA est obligatoire. En arrivant en ALASKA, même si c'est par voie terreste, on ne vs demandera pas de remplir le I94) ;
Autrement, il me semble que l'immigration US a acces à toutes les données de compagnies aeriennes sur les entrées sorties des pasagers, y compris sur le CANADA.
C'est prevu dans le reglement de l'ESTA : On demande d"Etre en possession d'un billet Aller-Retour ou d'un billet assurant la continuité du voyage hors des Etats-Unis d'Amérique"... donc votre billet retour depuis le CANADA suffit.
Enfin, comme vs arrivez aux USA par avion, (même si ce n'est pas de FRANCE) l'ESTA est obligatoire. En arrivant en ALASKA, même si c'est par voie terreste, on ne vs demandera pas de remplir le I94) ;
Autrement, il me semble que l'immigration US a acces à toutes les données de compagnies aeriennes sur les entrées sorties des pasagers, y compris sur le CANADA.
Bonsoir,
je suis rentré en Alaska par voie terrestre depuis Dawson et la douanière m'a signalé qu'elle n'avait pas besoin de l'Esta que j'avais et qu'elle n'a jamais regardé. Elle m'a aussi dit que je pouvais demander un visa touristique renouvelable dans n'importe quel poste douanier. Ainsi, il est possible de rester 6 mois ou 1 an, je ne sais plus. la douane canadienne a signalé au USA ma rentrée au Canada et donc mon départ de l'Alaska. La douanière m'a également signalé que je devais obligatoirement rentrer dans mon pays et pas juste au Canada pour avoir la possibilité de revenir aux USA.
La douane n'a rien à faire du billet d'avion, elle te tracera de toute façon et si tu dépasses les 90 jours sans avoir demandé un visa spécial renouvelable, il te sera très très difficile de revenir par après.
Bonjour
Si vs etes arrivés d'abord aux USA, passés au CANADA, puis entrés en ALASKA, votre ESTA etait valable pour cette re-entrée sur le territoire US. Il n'y a pas besoin de remplir le I94.
L'agent de l'immigration n'a pas besoin de consulter un ESTA sur papier car il a tout sur son terminal informatique.
Pour le visa touristique de 6 mois 1 an, vs etes sur d'avoir tout compris???? L'agent de l'immigration vs a donné les renseignements pour les citoyens canadiens. Les europeens ne peuvent pas rester aux USA plus de 90 jours pour des motifs touristiques sans avoir un visa B2, qu'on n'obtient pas à la frontière.
Si vs etes arrivés d'abord aux USA, passés au CANADA, puis entrés en ALASKA, votre ESTA etait valable pour cette re-entrée sur le territoire US. Il n'y a pas besoin de remplir le I94.
L'agent de l'immigration n'a pas besoin de consulter un ESTA sur papier car il a tout sur son terminal informatique.
Pour le visa touristique de 6 mois 1 an, vs etes sur d'avoir tout compris???? L'agent de l'immigration vs a donné les renseignements pour les citoyens canadiens. Les europeens ne peuvent pas rester aux USA plus de 90 jours pour des motifs touristiques sans avoir un visa B2, qu'on n'obtient pas à la frontière.
Bonjour,
Merci pour vos réponses.
Depuis mon premier message, j'ai contacté l'office du tourisme des USA et l'ambassade des USA à Paris (par téléphone).
Tous deux m'ont donné la même réponse: il vous faut un visa B2 ... En gros, le séjour au Canada compte comme une partie du séjour aux USA.
J'ai compris que leur réponse était une réponse de précaution, mais, par sécurité et pour ne pas nous faire de soucis durant le voyage (pour ne pas avoir à se presser pour sortir d'Alaska avant les 90 jours, ne pas être coincés par une panne de RV qui nous retarde de plusieurs jours, ...), nous avons finalement décidé, à contre-coeur (vu les complications que cela représente d'aller à Paris, le risque de ne pas l'obtenir, le coût non négligeable pour une famille de 5, ...), de demander un visa B2..
Si vous avez une autre expérience, merci de m'en faire part !
Je suis rentré en Alaska en prenant la route venant de Dawson city ( Yukon territory / Canada )
J'ai fièrement tendu mon passeport et mon ESTA à la douanière, laquelle m'a dit que l'ESTA ne seravit à rien et qu'elle n'en avait pas besoin. Elle a vérifié mon passeport biométrique et en a profité pour prendre un scan de toutes mes empreintes et non 4 doigts comme dans le passeport.On a eu l'occasion de discuter un peu vu le peu de monde....c'est le bout du monde là bas et il n'y a pas foule. Elle m'a signalé que je pouvais rester 90 jours aux USA et que si je voulais revenir, il fallait impérativement que je rentre en Europe pour bénéficier d'autres périodes de 90 jours.
Elle m'a signalé qu'il y avait une autre manière de procéder, il fallait dès l'entrée demander un visa touristique renouvelable en passant dans n'importe quel poste douanier américain. Je suis sûr de l'info et elle m'a dit qu ainsi on peut rester plus longtemps mais il faut le demander à l'entrée et non durant le séjour.
La seule chose dont je ne me souviens plus c'est la durée ( 2 x trois mois ou 2 x 6 mois )
J'avoue que beaucoup d'infos nous manquent et que le site de l'ambassade US ne nous éclaire pas sur tout. Je voulais au départ rentrer en kayak via la yukon river...sûr que l'info n'est pas fort disponible quant à la manière de procéder.
Ce qui est sûr c'est qu'il était marqué dans le bureau des douanes que l'ESTA n'était pas nécessaire et ne donnait pas le droit d'entrée au US automatiquement en cas de délivrance.
Je crois que cela sert juste à une arrivée par vol régulier via un aéroport international.
J'avais payé x dollars pour rien en tous les cas.
Le séjour au Canada ne compte pas du tout comme une partie du séjour au USA....
je suis resté deux mois au Canada et je pouvais rester 90 jours en Alaska après le Canada.
Ce sont deux pays différents .....la seule chose c'est qu'on ne peut pas par exemple revenir au Canada quelques jours et puis essayer de repasser aux US pour une nouvelle période de 90 jours.
Le visa B2 est un visa délivré à vocation touristique ou autre et permet de reste 6 mois et non 3 comme un visa normal. Je pense que c'est de ce visa que parlait ma douanière. Elle me disait que celui ci pouvait être prolongé pour peu qu'on passe dans n'importe quel poste douanier avant la date d'expiration.
Une fois de plus, le Canada n'a rien à voir dans ce cas...
Vous avez eu mille fois raison de demander ce visa.
Ce qui est sûr c'est qu'il était marqué dans le bureau des douanes que l'ESTA n'était pas nécessaire et ne donnait pas le droit d'entrée au US automatiquement en cas de délivrance.
Je crois que cela sert juste à une arrivée par vol régulier via un aéroport international.
J'avais payé x dollars pour rien en tous les cas.
Re : En dehors des cas ou on a un visa
1° L'ESTA est OBLIGATOIRE si on arrive aux USA par avion ou bateau.
2° On ne peut pas utiliser l'ESTA si on rentre aux USA par voie terrestre : Il faut alors remplir le I94
3° Par voie terreste, on est dispensé de I94 si sa premiere arrivée sur les USA s'est fait par avion, et qu'on a quitté les USA pour aller au CANADA par exemple. Le retour aux USA par voie terreste est admis avec l'ESTA.
ENFIN, que l'on ait un ESTA ou un VISA, l'entrée sur le sol US est tjrs soumis au bon vouloir de l'officier d'immigration. ESTA ou VISA ne constituent jamais un droit d'entrée, comme vs l'avez bien lu.
Re : En dehors des cas ou on a un visa
1° L'ESTA est OBLIGATOIRE si on arrive aux USA par avion ou bateau.
2° On ne peut pas utiliser l'ESTA si on rentre aux USA par voie terrestre : Il faut alors remplir le I94
3° Par voie terreste, on est dispensé de I94 si sa premiere arrivée sur les USA s'est fait par avion, et qu'on a quitté les USA pour aller au CANADA par exemple. Le retour aux USA par voie terreste est admis avec l'ESTA.
ENFIN, que l'on ait un ESTA ou un VISA, l'entrée sur le sol US est tjrs soumis au bon vouloir de l'officier d'immigration. ESTA ou VISA ne constituent jamais un droit d'entrée, comme vs l'avez bien lu.
D'abord ce n'est pas un douanière, mais un officier du service de l'immigration..
Ensuite, elle avait du un peu forcer sur le Bourbon, car elle aurait du vs faire remplir le I94 et vs faire payer 6$. Enfin, elle vs a raconté n'importe quoi. Pour les non-canadiens, pas d'autres solution que l'ESTA ou le visa B2 (qu'on ne prend jamais à la frontiere)
Ensuite, elle avait du un peu forcer sur le Bourbon, car elle aurait du vs faire remplir le I94 et vs faire payer 6$. Enfin, elle vs a raconté n'importe quoi. Pour les non-canadiens, pas d'autres solution que l'ESTA ou le visa B2 (qu'on ne prend jamais à la frontiere)
La seule différence c'est que mon voyage ne s'articulait pas autour d'un séjour au USA avec une courte visite au Canada, mais bien d'un séjour au Canada et ensuite un séjour en Alaska.Cela peut sembler assimilable mais en réalité bien différent. Je n'avais même pas de billet retour et aurait très bien pu quitter l'Alaska et partir vers l'Amérique du sud où vit mon fils.
Elle m'a effectivement fait remplir un I94 A mais l'ESTA n'est pas nécessaire pour une arrivée par la route ou par la mer. Et sans vouloir vous contredire....un document officiel affiché au mur dans la salle d'attente indiquait clairement l'inutilité de l'ESTA pour l'entrée en Alaska via la route.
Finalement, on est d'accord
Je vs ai toujours dit que comme vs arriviez aux USA (ALASKA) par la route, l'ESTA n'etait pas possible, (pas seulement inutile) et on vs avait fait remplir le I94.
Dans cette situation, vs n'avez pas besoin de billet retour, (il y a beaucoup de touristes qui vont rentrer en voiture aux USA à partir du CANADA et bien evidemment les quiiter avec la même voiture.) mais l'agent de l'immigration doit s'assurer que vs avez bien l'intention de quitter les USA dans les 90 jours.
Dans cette situation, vs n'avez pas besoin de billet retour, (il y a beaucoup de touristes qui vont rentrer en voiture aux USA à partir du CANADA et bien evidemment les quiiter avec la même voiture.) mais l'agent de l'immigration doit s'assurer que vs avez bien l'intention de quitter les USA dans les 90 jours.
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Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie




