Visas en Asie du Sud-Est
by Nathaliejura
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour
Désolée de relancer une discussion sur le sujet mais je ne trouve pas ce que je veux dans les anciennes.
J'expose notre cas. Nous arriverons a Bangkok en avion, avec nos vélos
Nous ressortirons de Tahilande environ deux semaines plus tard par voie terrestre en direction du Cambodge
Nous pédalerons au Cambodge environ trois semaines et passerons ensuite au Vietnam toujours par voie terrestre
Après deux mois au Vietnam, nous irons en Chine toujours par voie terrestre, pour y pédaler entre trois et quatre mois.
Voila, maintenant les questions :
Me faut-il un visa pour la thailande ou une preuve de continuation ou je ne sais quoi ?
Pour le cambodge, le visa peut-il se prendre à la frontière terrestre ? Si c'est non, vaut-il mieux le prendre en France avant le départ (sachant qu"e nous aurons déjà passé six semaines en Birmanie) ou peut-il être pris a Bangkok, quel prix quels documents ?
POur le Vietnam, est-il possible d'obtenir à Bangkok un visa touriste de deux mois ?
Pour la Chine, est-il possible d'obtenir à Hanoi un visa touriste de six mois consécutifs ? Si non, peut-être trois mois alors ?
POur la CHine encore, est-il possible d'obtenir un visa touriste six mois consécutifs à Bangkok ?
Voila, tout renseignement relatif à ces questions sera bon à prendre et je vous remercie d'ores et déjà de votre collaboration.
Nathalie
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Nathalie
Bonjour,
je suis contente de te trouver sur ce forum car moi aussi j'ai des questions à te poser ... je n'arrive pas à envoyer de mail via l'adresse de ton site????????
Mais je peux te faire part des infos que j'ai ayant fait le même parcours en 2008 http://o2tourdelhimalaya.over-blog.com/
Me faut-il un visa pour la thailande ou une preuve de continuation ou je ne sais quoi ? Non, vous pouvez rester 1 mois en Thaïlande sans visas ou autre doc. La sortie de BKK à vélo c'est de la course d'orientation sur autoroute.... sympa!
Pour le cambodge, le visa peut-il se prendre à la frontière terrestre ? Si c'est non, vaut-il mieux le prendre en France avant le départ (sachant qu"e nous aurons déjà passé six semaines en Birmanie) ou peut-il être pris a Bangkok, quel prix quels documents ? Oui tu peux le prendre la frontière mais pour nous, l'augmentation a été de 60 %!! Le douanier fixe le prix et si tu ne veux pas payer t'as qu'à repartir d'où tu viens...ce qui n'est pas possible donc tu payes. On devrait le prendre à BKK mais on a eu la flemme d'aller à l'ambassade du Cambodge assez éloignée du centre (elle a déménagée début 2008) sachant qu'on pouvait le prendre à la frontière. A l'ambassade en 2008 c'était 700 bath/pers, on a payé 1200 bath.
POur le Vietnam, est-il possible d'obtenir à Bangkok un visa touriste de deux mois ? je ne sais pas nous l'avions acheter à Delhi mais je pense que c'est possible. L'administration vietnamienne est très efficace et ne semble pas corrompue. Pour la Chine, est-il possible d'obtenir à Hanoi un visa touriste de six mois consécutifs ? Si non, peut-être trois mois alors ? Nous nous avions eu 2 mois en le prenant à Vientane en mars 2008, juste au moment où tous les accès au tibet et régions tibétaines ont été fermées. Et nous avons pu le faire prolonger d '1 mois à Kashgar ss pb.
POur la CHine encore, est-il possible d'obtenir un visa touriste six mois consécutifs à Bangkok ? Je ne sais pas mais je crois que les chinois n'en délivrent plus depuis 2008 dans n'importe qq ambassade.
Une petite info : nous avons beaucoup écourté notre parcours au vietnam et bien rallongé celui au Laos après avoir appris par des cyclos croisés en route que la circulation (sauf à l'extrème nord du pays) est très très dense et anarchique ...digne de l'inde! Et parce qu'au contraire le Laos est un pays paisible traversé par de nombreuses pistes peu fréquentée et peuplé de personnes très attachante et sans ambition mercantile... ce qui n'est pas le cas de tous les vietnamiens.
Jaurai donc qq questions ....
Nous disposons de 4 semaines (...ça semble court qd on a voyagé des mois) et nous souhaiterions faire un p'tit tour en vélo au ladak.
Nous hésitons entre: - la traversée srinagra- leh -chandigarh, - attérir à Leh et faire une boucle au laddak/zanskar - monter au ladak (par srinagar ou manali ?) avec boucle au ladakh
pourrais-tu nous donner ton avis sur ces itinéraires sachant que l'on apprécierait utiliser au minimum les transports en commun...bien que ganesh et shiva veillent sur nous!
Avez-vous eu de la difficulté à vous ravitailler lors de votre trek en autonomie?
Est-ce que le trek que vous avez fait au Zanskar serait envisageable à vélo chargé (modérament : bivouak ultra léger)? sachant qu'on a une bonne pratique du vélo de montagne.
Merci beaucoup.
Odile
Me faut-il un visa pour la thailande ou une preuve de continuation ou je ne sais quoi ? Non, vous pouvez rester 1 mois en Thaïlande sans visas ou autre doc. La sortie de BKK à vélo c'est de la course d'orientation sur autoroute.... sympa!
Pour le cambodge, le visa peut-il se prendre à la frontière terrestre ? Si c'est non, vaut-il mieux le prendre en France avant le départ (sachant qu"e nous aurons déjà passé six semaines en Birmanie) ou peut-il être pris a Bangkok, quel prix quels documents ? Oui tu peux le prendre la frontière mais pour nous, l'augmentation a été de 60 %!! Le douanier fixe le prix et si tu ne veux pas payer t'as qu'à repartir d'où tu viens...ce qui n'est pas possible donc tu payes. On devrait le prendre à BKK mais on a eu la flemme d'aller à l'ambassade du Cambodge assez éloignée du centre (elle a déménagée début 2008) sachant qu'on pouvait le prendre à la frontière. A l'ambassade en 2008 c'était 700 bath/pers, on a payé 1200 bath.
POur le Vietnam, est-il possible d'obtenir à Bangkok un visa touriste de deux mois ? je ne sais pas nous l'avions acheter à Delhi mais je pense que c'est possible. L'administration vietnamienne est très efficace et ne semble pas corrompue. Pour la Chine, est-il possible d'obtenir à Hanoi un visa touriste de six mois consécutifs ? Si non, peut-être trois mois alors ? Nous nous avions eu 2 mois en le prenant à Vientane en mars 2008, juste au moment où tous les accès au tibet et régions tibétaines ont été fermées. Et nous avons pu le faire prolonger d '1 mois à Kashgar ss pb.
POur la CHine encore, est-il possible d'obtenir un visa touriste six mois consécutifs à Bangkok ? Je ne sais pas mais je crois que les chinois n'en délivrent plus depuis 2008 dans n'importe qq ambassade.
Une petite info : nous avons beaucoup écourté notre parcours au vietnam et bien rallongé celui au Laos après avoir appris par des cyclos croisés en route que la circulation (sauf à l'extrème nord du pays) est très très dense et anarchique ...digne de l'inde! Et parce qu'au contraire le Laos est un pays paisible traversé par de nombreuses pistes peu fréquentée et peuplé de personnes très attachante et sans ambition mercantile... ce qui n'est pas le cas de tous les vietnamiens.
Jaurai donc qq questions ....
Nous disposons de 4 semaines (...ça semble court qd on a voyagé des mois) et nous souhaiterions faire un p'tit tour en vélo au ladak.
Nous hésitons entre: - la traversée srinagra- leh -chandigarh, - attérir à Leh et faire une boucle au laddak/zanskar - monter au ladak (par srinagar ou manali ?) avec boucle au ladakh
pourrais-tu nous donner ton avis sur ces itinéraires sachant que l'on apprécierait utiliser au minimum les transports en commun...bien que ganesh et shiva veillent sur nous!
Avez-vous eu de la difficulté à vous ravitailler lors de votre trek en autonomie?
Est-ce que le trek que vous avez fait au Zanskar serait envisageable à vélo chargé (modérament : bivouak ultra léger)? sachant qu'on a une bonne pratique du vélo de montagne.
Merci beaucoup.
Odile
odile
Bonjour et tout d'abord merci pour ces infos.
Ensuite, pour répondre à tes questions :
Quatre semaines, ça va être très court mais il semble possible de faire la traversée Srinagar Leh Manali, ensuite, de Manali a Chandigarh, c'est déjà moins marrant et beaucoup plus dense au niveau de la circulation mais nous l'avons fait, attention, en bas, c'est encore la mousson et quand il pleut, il pleut !
Atterrir à leh et faire un tour au Laddakh Zanskar c'est peut-être pas mal surtout si vous avez l'habitude de rouler sur des pistes, il y a les cartes Olizane qui sont assez détaillées , il y a de quoi faire, notamment au Laddakh. Sur quatre semaines, c'est peut-être ça.
Vous ne ferez pas le trek qu'on a fait en vélo, ce n'est PAS possible. Sur quatre semaines il va falloir choisir rando ou vélo. La route Manali est superbe, très haute, plusieurs cols à plmus de 5000 m mais vraiment pédaler au Laddakh à partir de Leh, vallée de la Nubra, Pangong Tso etc, c'est du must. Il faut des autorisations qui s'obtiennent facilement à Leh pour aller dans ces zones.
Sur notre trek en autonomie, nous aviosn pris six jours de bouffe pour 11 jours de trek. Il est facile, sur le parcours que nous avons et je tiens à le préciser parce que ce n'est pas le cas partout au Zanskar, de trouver des nouilles chinoises qu'ils te cuisinent eux même, ou des biscuits, mais pas grand chose d'autre. Quand nous passions dans les villages nous demandions aux habitanjts qu'ils nous fassent du pain et une bonne assiette de riz, on les payait bien évidemment, mais souvent c'était sympa.
Voilà, je crois que j'ai répondu à tout.
Et il faut que je règle mes problèmes de boite mail, et ce n'est pas une mince affaire !
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Et il faut que je règle mes problèmes de boite mail, et ce n'est pas une mince affaire !
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Nathalie
Merci pour les infos.
Encore une petite question ... (nous n'avons pas encore acheter la carte du laddak)
Est-il possible au départ de Leh de faire à vélo des boucles, des circuits .... bref pas des A/R.
En parlant de cartes, nous avions trouver des cartes qui se sont avérées très bien au vieux campiste pour la tahilande cambodge laos vietnam : rough guide map avec qq courbes de niveaux et pour la chine gizi map ( faites par des hongrois!)
En chine nous avions acheter un atlas routiers en Chinois(of course) ça coute 50 yens (5 €) et c'est pas mal pour demander son chemin. c'est un pavet comme l'atlas routiers de michelin mais on a gardé que les pages qui nous intéréssaient. Merci Odile
En parlant de cartes, nous avions trouver des cartes qui se sont avérées très bien au vieux campiste pour la tahilande cambodge laos vietnam : rough guide map avec qq courbes de niveaux et pour la chine gizi map ( faites par des hongrois!)
En chine nous avions acheter un atlas routiers en Chinois(of course) ça coute 50 yens (5 €) et c'est pas mal pour demander son chemin. c'est un pavet comme l'atlas routiers de michelin mais on a gardé que les pages qui nous intéréssaient. Merci Odile
odile
Oui, il est possible de faire des boucles au départ de Leh, même si de temps en temps il faut repasser sur ses pas, c'est rare. Pour couvrir le secteur Laddakh et Zanskar, il y a trois cartes Olizane assez précises, ce sont les mieux, tu peux les commander à l'avance ou les trouver sur place mais elles ne sont pas moins chères là bas !
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Nathalie
Une petite précision pour la Thaïlande : le "run", c'est à dire la possibilité de séjourner sans visa, a été écourté. Il ne donne plus droit qu'à une durée de quinze jours. Si vous souhaitez rester plus longtemps vous devrez acheter un visa.
Bonne route, Hélène
Bonne route, Hélène
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M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!