Visites aux alentours de Moab (Etats-Unis)
by Serraggia
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Bonjour,
Dans le cadre de mon circuit, j'ai une étape SALT LAKE CITY / MOAB, avec 2 nuits à l'apache motel de MOAB - puis continuation vers MEXICAN HAT,
Quelles sont les visites que vous puissiez me conseiller dans les environs : arrivée de salt lake city (4 heures de route) puis arrêt à Arches pour visiter du parc et profiter du coucher du soleil ? et le lendemain : dead horse point, canyonlands (island in the sky ?), eventuellement excursion organisée en hummer ou 4/4 ? le surlendemain - avant départ vers Mexican hat (2 heures de route) - quelle excursion puis-je organiser ? pourquoi pas the Needles ?
Nous ne sommes pas randonneurs et seront accompagnés de 3 enfants : 15/12 et 12 ans, en plus la chaleur est écrasante en cette saison (18 juin)
Merci pour vos conseils,
Nathalie
Si cela peut vous aider, voici quelques conseils pour optimiser vos visites
Arches : si vous souhaitez vous ballader à Devil's Garden, le matin est préférable (à cause de la chaleur et aussi pour le rendu des photos), pour Delicate Arch, c'est au coucher de soleil qu'il faut y aller. Ici, http://www.discovermoab.com/archesnationalpark.htm vous trouverez aussi ce qu'il vaut mieux voir le matin ou le soir pour les photos...
Canyonlands : Dead Horse Point et Island In the Sky (Mesa Arch) sont à visiter de préférence le soir pour un meilleur rendu des couleurs...
Nous passons également par Moab (4 nuits) du 24 au 28 juin... et en fait, il faut jongler dans les 2 parcs pour optimiser...
Vous pouvez faire Island in the sky et Dead Horse point le 1er jour, le lendemain matin, une activité style Rafting ou 4x4, et finir la journée à Arches pour Delicate Arch. Et le lendemain, avant la route pour Mexican Hat, retourner à Arch (qui est vraiment proche de Moab) pour faire Devil's Garden...
C'est dommage de louper Needles et la route 128 Fisher Tower.. mais 2 nuits à Moab, c'est vraiment court... N'avez vous pas la possibilité d'ajouter une nuit ??
Arches : si vous souhaitez vous ballader à Devil's Garden, le matin est préférable (à cause de la chaleur et aussi pour le rendu des photos), pour Delicate Arch, c'est au coucher de soleil qu'il faut y aller. Ici, http://www.discovermoab.com/archesnationalpark.htm vous trouverez aussi ce qu'il vaut mieux voir le matin ou le soir pour les photos...
Canyonlands : Dead Horse Point et Island In the Sky (Mesa Arch) sont à visiter de préférence le soir pour un meilleur rendu des couleurs...
Nous passons également par Moab (4 nuits) du 24 au 28 juin... et en fait, il faut jongler dans les 2 parcs pour optimiser...
Vous pouvez faire Island in the sky et Dead Horse point le 1er jour, le lendemain matin, une activité style Rafting ou 4x4, et finir la journée à Arches pour Delicate Arch. Et le lendemain, avant la route pour Mexican Hat, retourner à Arch (qui est vraiment proche de Moab) pour faire Devil's Garden...
C'est dommage de louper Needles et la route 128 Fisher Tower.. mais 2 nuits à Moab, c'est vraiment court... N'avez vous pas la possibilité d'ajouter une nuit ??
Blog de notre voyage aux Usa juin-juillet 2008 :
http://blog.orange.fr/web/jsp/blog.jsp?blogID=407701
Nous avons passé 2 nuits à Moab, début juin, l’année dernière. Il faisait déjà très chaud. Ne prévois pas grand-chose en milieu de journée, si ce n’est la piscine…
Arrivée à Moab, par la 128, vers 13h. Piscine jusqu’à 16h puis début de la visite d’Arches. Le lendemain matin, de bonne heure, Island in the Sky, en démarrant par Grand View Point, puis les différents points de vue. Retour à Moab pour le repas et piscine. Départ pour Death Horse Point en fin d’après midi. Le 2ème matin, de bonne heure, retour à Arches pour la fin de la visite, en démarrant par la ballade à Landscape Arch. Vers midi, départ pour the Needles. Nous avons beaucoup aimé. Rien à voir avec Island in the Sky. Puis retour vers le Colorado pour nous.
Nous avons passé les 2 nuits au Apache Motel. Motel correct et propre. Un peu vieillot. John Wayne y aurait dormi… le mobilier date très certainement de cette époque …Petite piscine bien agréable. Beaucoup de Français. Mais cette année il y a énormément de Français partout….
Arrivée à Moab, par la 128, vers 13h. Piscine jusqu’à 16h puis début de la visite d’Arches. Le lendemain matin, de bonne heure, Island in the Sky, en démarrant par Grand View Point, puis les différents points de vue. Retour à Moab pour le repas et piscine. Départ pour Death Horse Point en fin d’après midi. Le 2ème matin, de bonne heure, retour à Arches pour la fin de la visite, en démarrant par la ballade à Landscape Arch. Vers midi, départ pour the Needles. Nous avons beaucoup aimé. Rien à voir avec Island in the Sky. Puis retour vers le Colorado pour nous.
Nous avons passé les 2 nuits au Apache Motel. Motel correct et propre. Un peu vieillot. John Wayne y aurait dormi… le mobilier date très certainement de cette époque …Petite piscine bien agréable. Beaucoup de Français. Mais cette année il y a énormément de Français partout….
Quelques Voyages en Photos
The needles, sky island, death point horse, arches, route et piste de potash a sky island(bon conducteur, il ne faut pas avoir le vertige). De moab a capitol reef prendre la 128 direction .Cisco et reprendre la hyw 70
Va voir sur ce site un des meilleurs sur l'ouest
directement a la page 11 sites a voir avec photos et carte détaillée
http://www.ouestusa.fr/utah-acceuil.htm
A the needles la declinivitee n'est pas très importante mais pas de point d'eau après le terrain camping.ont peut faire 25 km facile.par contre comme partout dans l'ouest l'air est très sec et le risque de dèshydratation est important, boire 4 litres d'eau par jour.Au grand canyon il y a 4 points d'eau jusqu'a plateau point. Si vous aller a yosemite prendre la navette 15$ pers de yosemite valley a glacier point 45km et 12 km de rando facile en descente et point de vue superbe la vallee, sur nevada fall, vernal falls, yosemite falls 740 m.Ne pas oublier comme beaucoup de français les sequoias geant de mariposa grove a la sortie sud du park. www.ouestusa.fr circuits, cartes topo, coneils
http://www.phschuler.com/usa2006/index.html magnifique photos
cuicuit moab google map http://maps.google.fr/...11, 0.928345&z=10
http://voyageforum.com/voyage/etats-unis_les_plus_belles_routes_arizona_utah_nevada_californie_D1694905/ bonne vacances
A the needles la declinivitee n'est pas très importante mais pas de point d'eau après le terrain camping.ont peut faire 25 km facile.par contre comme partout dans l'ouest l'air est très sec et le risque de dèshydratation est important, boire 4 litres d'eau par jour.Au grand canyon il y a 4 points d'eau jusqu'a plateau point. Si vous aller a yosemite prendre la navette 15$ pers de yosemite valley a glacier point 45km et 12 km de rando facile en descente et point de vue superbe la vallee, sur nevada fall, vernal falls, yosemite falls 740 m.Ne pas oublier comme beaucoup de français les sequoias geant de mariposa grove a la sortie sud du park. www.ouestusa.fr circuits, cartes topo, coneils
http://www.phschuler.com/usa2006/index.html magnifique photos
cuicuit moab google map http://maps.google.fr/...11, 0.928345&z=10
http://voyageforum.com/voyage/etats-unis_les_plus_belles_routes_arizona_utah_nevada_californie_D1694905/ bonne vacances
Bonjour Kimy,
En dehors de l'Apache, as tu repéré d'autres hôtels avec piscine sympa pour que nos 4 enfants puissent se détendre (en dehors du Red Cliffs qui nous reviendrait à plus de 400 euros/nuit !!! ) ? les piscines des motels semblent un peu toutes sur la route .... pas très réjouissant !
On aurait adoré un plan B&B (type Cali Cochitta) mais il n'y a pas de piscine ....
merci pour ma petite famille !
En dehors de l'Apache, as tu repéré d'autres hôtels avec piscine sympa pour que nos 4 enfants puissent se détendre (en dehors du Red Cliffs qui nous reviendrait à plus de 400 euros/nuit !!! ) ? les piscines des motels semblent un peu toutes sur la route .... pas très réjouissant !
On aurait adoré un plan B&B (type Cali Cochitta) mais il n'y a pas de piscine ....
merci pour ma petite famille !
J'avais été au http://www.aarchwayinn.com/ qui dispose également de suites familiales pour 6.
Après avoir fait le tour de plusieurs motels, c'était celui qui avait la meilleure piscine. J'entends pas là, pas un jacuzzi planté au milieu du parking en plein soleil et entouré de grillages 🤪
Elle est grande et en partie ombragée avec des tables etc .... et effectivement, nous y avons passé 2 APM pour se planquer de la chaleur de début d'APM en Juillet.
A prendre en compte : le petit-déj est inclus et de bonne qualité. Pas juste un beignet et un café à prendre dans sa chambre . Egalement un frigo dans la chambre pour stocker de quoi se faire des repas le soir achetés au supermarché ou préparer le pique-nique du lendemain midi.
A prendre en compte : le petit-déj est inclus et de bonne qualité. Pas juste un beignet et un café à prendre dans sa chambre . Egalement un frigo dans la chambre pour stocker de quoi se faire des repas le soir achetés au supermarché ou préparer le pique-nique du lendemain midi.
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" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
Merci Vasyvite: tes conseils glanés un peu partout sur ce forum enrichissent considérablement mon carnet d'adresses et de "tips" de l'Ouest américain !
Effectivement, je m'orientais vers le Aarchway .... avec un regret pour le Cali Cochita qui doit être idéal hors saison chaude.
Pour l'instant, j'ai réservé au Red Cliffs. Penses-tu qu'il est aussi bien que le Aarchway Inn ? Je pose la question parce que je l'ai choisi essentiellement pour sa piscine... sans connaître le Aarchway Inn, dont je découvre l'existence grâce à ce post.
Je viens d'envoyer un mail au Aarchway Inn pour connaître leurs tarifs à nos dates, car il est vrai que le Red Cliffs est très cher, mais semblait tellement tentant...
Je viens d'envoyer un mail au Aarchway Inn pour connaître leurs tarifs à nos dates, car il est vrai que le Red Cliffs est très cher, mais semblait tellement tentant...
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Il est vraiment en dehors de la ville donc je n'avais pas été aussi loin 😛
Le AArchway est à la sortie de Moab sur la route qui mêne aux parcs donc pas en plein centre non plus ce qui explique qu'il était meilleur marché que le Best Western par exemple et qu'il a aussi un peu + de place pour caser une vraie piscine.
Comme elle est dans le U formé par les bâtiments, il y a toujours une partie à l'ombre ... et c'est pas du luxe 😎
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" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
Merci ! Je vais voir si la différence de prix est significative ou pas.
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Mince, il y a quand même 100 dollars de différence par nuit... 🤪 (139 au lieu de 239). Je me demande si c'est justifié... J'hésitais à prendre un hôtel si cher, mais là, j'hésite encore plus.
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Disons que sur tout le trajet de nos vacances, j'ai essayé de me faire plaisir au niveau des hôtels en privilégiant leur vue ou leur environnement. Je ne voulais pas de simples endroits où dormir le soir. Nous ne partons pas très longtemps malheureusement, et nous avons déjà fait la version "sans réservation - on verra bien où on échoue le soir venu, tant pis si c'est un motel un peu triste", cette fois-ci, j'avais envie de plus de pittoresque, surtout pour mon petit garçon. J'ai vu que cet hôtel était le mieux classé sur Trip Avisor, et quand j'ai vu les photos de la piscine entournée de roches rouges, j'ai fondu ! 😊 D'autant qu'il est sur la 128, ce qui nous permettra de la faire du même coup !
Y avez-vous logé ? Est-ce vraiment loin de Arches et Canyonlands ?
Y avez-vous logé ? Est-ce vraiment loin de Arches et Canyonlands ?
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Bonjour voisine,
Le Red cliff Lodge est à 17 miles (27km) de Moab ou du VC de Arches (je viens de regarder sur Google maps) et j'ai lu qu'il y avait un petit musée sur les acteurs et films de "cowboy" tournés dans ce "coin" !!
Bonne continuation. Jean
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Merci Voisin 😉
Ca va êre sympa ce petit musée ! D'ailleurs, pas plus tard qu'hier mon gamin regardait Hulk - no comment 🤪 - et j'ai eu l'oeil attiré par les paysages... c'était Arches et Canyonlands ! Au moins, une fois sur place, ça l'intéressera car "Hulk était là" 😇
Ca va êre sympa ce petit musée ! D'ailleurs, pas plus tard qu'hier mon gamin regardait Hulk - no comment 🤪 - et j'ai eu l'oeil attiré par les paysages... c'était Arches et Canyonlands ! Au moins, une fois sur place, ça l'intéressera car "Hulk était là" 😇
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Bonjour,
Je n'ai pas logé au Red clif lodge mais j'ai visité le petit musée gratuit consacré au cinema en me rendant aux Fisher towers. L'accueil pour notre visite a été très bon.
L'hotel est vraiment sympa, tu es dans une toute autre catégorie de ce que tu peux trouver d'habitude. Ca doit être sympa de boire une bière au bord du Colorado le soir. 😛
Jette un oeil sur mon voyage en 2007, tu as quelques photos.
J'ai logé au Aarchway inn en 2005, accueil mitigé, piscine "quasi" olympique. correct.
La route vers Moab ou Arches est belle et passe vite. Tu seras à 1/2 h de Arches et 3/4 d'heure de Canyonlands. Il faut savoir que l'entrée deCanyonlands est assez loin de Moab tout de même.
La route vers Moab ou Arches est belle et passe vite. Tu seras à 1/2 h de Arches et 3/4 d'heure de Canyonlands. Il faut savoir que l'entrée deCanyonlands est assez loin de Moab tout de même.
Merci beaucoup FredXIII ! Je crois que je vais garder celui-là, réflexion faite !
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Nous concernant, étant une famille de 6, les hôtels proposant des suites de 2 chambres (2 Queen + 1 sofa bed) sont plus économiques.
Ainsi, à Moab, le Hilton (tarifs internet) est moins cher que Aarchway ..... mais certainement moins sympa . Le Red Cliffs est donc loin de Moab et revient à $430 + tax la River Front cabin. Le BW en revanche nous oblige à prendre 2 chambres de 2 Queen et nous revient donc à plus de $350(+ taxes) la nuit ..... Le Castle Valley Inn propose aussi une très grande chambre-dortoir à prix sympa, mais pas de piscine. Notre préférence irait au Cali Cochita mais sans piscine en plein mois de juillet, c'est un peu dur pour les enfants (les pôvres !) Si vous avez d'autres expériences, n'hésitez pas !!!
Bref, je n'apprends rien à personne, mais selon sa "configuration", il faut tout comparer ....
D'ailleurs, quelles sont les piscines les plus sympas à Moab ? car finalement, si on est près du centre pour les bonnes adresses de restos, les chambre on s'en fiche un peu ....
Ainsi, à Moab, le Hilton (tarifs internet) est moins cher que Aarchway ..... mais certainement moins sympa . Le Red Cliffs est donc loin de Moab et revient à $430 + tax la River Front cabin. Le BW en revanche nous oblige à prendre 2 chambres de 2 Queen et nous revient donc à plus de $350(+ taxes) la nuit ..... Le Castle Valley Inn propose aussi une très grande chambre-dortoir à prix sympa, mais pas de piscine. Notre préférence irait au Cali Cochita mais sans piscine en plein mois de juillet, c'est un peu dur pour les enfants (les pôvres !) Si vous avez d'autres expériences, n'hésitez pas !!!
Bref, je n'apprends rien à personne, mais selon sa "configuration", il faut tout comparer ....
D'ailleurs, quelles sont les piscines les plus sympas à Moab ? car finalement, si on est près du centre pour les bonnes adresses de restos, les chambre on s'en fiche un peu ....
Il y a un Hilton à Moab ?
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bonsoir,
pas d'Hilton à Moab: www.moab-utah.com @+ leSpartiate
pas d'Hilton à Moab: www.moab-utah.com @+ leSpartiate
Tout ce qui ne vous tue pas , vous rend plus fort !!
Merci Le Spartiate. C'est bien ce qu'il me semblait, mais si j'en avais loupé un (ou un de la famille Hilton), ça m'aurait arrangé, étant donné qu'on peut utiliser des miles chez eux !
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tu sais certainement, c'est une petite ville et en plus un RDV de sportifs, alors tu ne crois pas que tu vas te la couler douce à Moab😛😉😏
Tout ce qui ne vous tue pas , vous rend plus fort !!
Ah mais ce n'est vraiment, mais alors vraiment pas le but 😉
Comme je pars avec un enfant de huit ans et que je veux que ce soit agréable pour lui (et mon mari, moins "acharné" que moi) comme pour moi, je cherche des hôtels ayant une piscine pour mes hommes, et un emplacement/cadre qui satisfera mon envie de "rochers rouges" et de dépaysement. D'où mon choix du Red Cliffs (le nom le dit 😛).
Mais le fait est qu'on peut loger gratuitement au Hilton donc... ça aurait quand même été un paramètre à prendre en compte s'il s'était avéré qu'il y avait un Hilton dans le coin. Il n'y a d'ailleurs aucune chaîne de ce style sur tout notre circuit des parcs. On se rattrapera à Santa Monica 😎
Comme je pars avec un enfant de huit ans et que je veux que ce soit agréable pour lui (et mon mari, moins "acharné" que moi) comme pour moi, je cherche des hôtels ayant une piscine pour mes hommes, et un emplacement/cadre qui satisfera mon envie de "rochers rouges" et de dépaysement. D'où mon choix du Red Cliffs (le nom le dit 😛).
Mais le fait est qu'on peut loger gratuitement au Hilton donc... ça aurait quand même été un paramètre à prendre en compte s'il s'était avéré qu'il y avait un Hilton dans le coin. Il n'y a d'ailleurs aucune chaîne de ce style sur tout notre circuit des parcs. On se rattrapera à Santa Monica 😎
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oui Le Red Cliffs vaut bien le Hilton, je pense que vous ne serez pas déçus, j'avais repéré mais ça ne collait pas avec mon image de marque😏
je cherche des hôtels ayant une piscine pour mes hommes, et un emplacement/cadre qui satisfera mon envie de "rochers rouges" et de dépaysement. D'où mon choix du Red Cliffs (le nom le dit 😛 Quel heureux homme, j'espère qu'il s'en rend compte, d'avoir une gentille femme qui le chouchoutte😏
@+ LeSpartiate
je cherche des hôtels ayant une piscine pour mes hommes, et un emplacement/cadre qui satisfera mon envie de "rochers rouges" et de dépaysement. D'où mon choix du Red Cliffs (le nom le dit 😛 Quel heureux homme, j'espère qu'il s'en rend compte, d'avoir une gentille femme qui le chouchoutte😏
@+ LeSpartiate
Tout ce qui ne vous tue pas , vous rend plus fort !!
Oui, sur le strip, il y a le Flamingo, mais comme par hasard, il n'est pas possible d'y utiliser des points de fidélité !
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Quel heureux homme, j'espère qu'il s'en rend compte, d'avoir une gentille femme qui le chouchoutte😏
@+ LeSpartiate
Je ne manque pas de le lui rappeler régulièrement 😛.
En tout cas, merci pour les avis sur le Red Cliffs, je suis contente d'y aller, ça a l'air magnifique !
@+ LeSpartiate
Je ne manque pas de le lui rappeler régulièrement 😛.
En tout cas, merci pour les avis sur le Red Cliffs, je suis contente d'y aller, ça a l'air magnifique !
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Bonjour,
Préparant également un voyage aux USA en juillet 2009 dont 3 nuits à Moab, j'ai trouvé, sur les conseils de krikri6792, ce ranch, à 15 minutes sud de Moab : http://packcreekranch.net/home.htm
Est ce que quelqu'un connait ?
Lukla,
Préparant également un voyage aux USA en juillet 2009 dont 3 nuits à Moab, j'ai trouvé, sur les conseils de krikri6792, ce ranch, à 15 minutes sud de Moab : http://packcreekranch.net/home.htm
Est ce que quelqu'un connait ?
Lukla,
OUPS !!! Juste, pas d'Hilton ... désolée pour la confusion ....je pensais au "Holiday Inn" .
Dans mon esprit toutes ces chaînes se ressemblent et je ne suis pas une spécialiste du genre .... donc toutes mes excuses !
Il est vrai que le Red Cliff c'est autre chose ... Quant au Pack Creek ranch, il est à 15 miles de Moab et parait une option à considérer ....
Il est vrai que le Red Cliff c'est autre chose ... Quant au Pack Creek ranch, il est à 15 miles de Moab et parait une option à considérer ....
bonjour,
j'ai passé 4 nuits à moab en juillet 2008 avec mon fils de 9 ans. il fait chaud, très vite 40°, mais c'est une chaleur sèche, très supportable avec un chapeau et de l'eau. 2 nuits c'est court ! nous avions passé 1 jour 1/2 à arches, 1 jour de rafting, islands, dead horse....et zappé needles. ce sera pour une autre fois. pour l'hébergement, j'ai toujours priviligié le budget nourriture au budget hotels. nous avons dons donc dormi au inca inn, 2 lits de 160 pour 60$, très propre, accueil sympa, la petite piscine entourée de grillages, mais suffisante pour se tremper, au bord de main street, mais main street n'est pas le périphériqhe parisien !
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Hello! The itinerary is pretty much set for August 2026. Yeah, I know it’s gonna be *super* hot. But it’s the only time we can get away.
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas: JFK Museum; Perot Museum; West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Return to France: Dallas-Montpellier via CDG.
Cheers!
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas: JFK Museum; Perot Museum; West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Return to France: Dallas-Montpellier via CDG.
Cheers!
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
Best,
Best,
Hi there,
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
Hi everyone! 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
Hello everyone,
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan

