Voyage en Thaïlande au mois de janvier: choisir Ko Lipe ou Koh Phi Phi?
by Sandrinempl
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
salut,
nous partons en janvier pour la Thailande, et nous hesitons entre 2 destinations,
soit Koh Phi Phi soit Koh Lipe
Nous sommes allés a Koh Phi Phi il y a 10 ans et nous avons un peu peur de retrouver un endroit surchargé de touristes et de bungalows.
A l'inverse Koh Lipe semble encore intact et sans trop de monde!
quelqu'un pourrait-il nous aider,
de plus les fonds ne semblent pas detruits comme dans beaucoup d'iles!
merci pour vos infos
Sandrine
Bonsoir
on a fait les 2 iles en Mars 2010 .
Effictivement Ko phiphi y a trop de touristes ...
Ko Lipe est sympa , mais un peu loin ..
On a loge au Mountain :tu peux reserver sur leur site
Voila , en gros Lipe sans hesiter .(mais pas trop le repeter)
La revolution ?quelle revolution?
A l'inverse Koh Lipe semble encore intact
tout dépend de ce que vous appelez intact
tout dépend de ce que vous appelez intact
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
intéressant , je ne connaissais pas cet itinéraire. Mais il faut donc passer par phiphi.
il serait aussi intéressant de descendre jusqu'à PAK BARA, pour visiter une autre partie du sud de la thailande, tout est à voir, à découvrir. nous avons passer deux nuits dans cette ville et qui plus est sous la pluie presque tout le temps et pourtant c'était un bon moment.
souide
Je suis allée sur koh phi phi en 2005 et en 2008 et oui c'est effectivement bien trop surchargé....je n'y retournerais plus.... je te conseille bien plus koh lipe!!!!!
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Bonjour,
je reviens de thailande ou g fait ko phi phi et kolipe.... KOLIPE reste pour moi la pire des îles à faire, des chiens errants sur la place, des déchets plastiques. Les égouts vont directement en mer et l'odeur est horrible. le centre se fait à 10 mn à pied et autour c hyper sale car entouré de la mangrouve. J'ai détesté cette ile et j'espérais avoir des avis concrets sur le forum mais non. Les hôtels sont chers et ne le valent pas du tout. Je suis allée souvent en thailande et là pour moi c la pire île au monde... Je te déconseille d'y aller, tu risques d'être déçue. A ko phi phi, l'entrée sur l'île est de 20 b, les routes sont étroites et tu trouveras sans problème de quoi te loger car tout est près du port. Le soir, c la fête sur la plage avec musique tecno house, et là aussi la meilleure plage est à long beach ou tu peux soit marcher pour y aller (en forêt) ou prendre un long tail(petit bateau 50b). Ko phi phi aussi a changé depuis le tsunami. On a fait une excursion sans guide alors demande bien quand tu book une excursion si quelqu'un est là pour vous expliquer les différents points de lîle. La meilleure île coté ouest reste ko lanta ou la mer est magnifique, nous étions au kaw klangbeach à klong dao beach tout au nord. Si besoin d'infos, n'hésites pas et crois moi ko lipe berk!!!! RACHIDA
je reviens de thailande ou g fait ko phi phi et kolipe.... KOLIPE reste pour moi la pire des îles à faire, des chiens errants sur la place, des déchets plastiques. Les égouts vont directement en mer et l'odeur est horrible. le centre se fait à 10 mn à pied et autour c hyper sale car entouré de la mangrouve. J'ai détesté cette ile et j'espérais avoir des avis concrets sur le forum mais non. Les hôtels sont chers et ne le valent pas du tout. Je suis allée souvent en thailande et là pour moi c la pire île au monde... Je te déconseille d'y aller, tu risques d'être déçue. A ko phi phi, l'entrée sur l'île est de 20 b, les routes sont étroites et tu trouveras sans problème de quoi te loger car tout est près du port. Le soir, c la fête sur la plage avec musique tecno house, et là aussi la meilleure plage est à long beach ou tu peux soit marcher pour y aller (en forêt) ou prendre un long tail(petit bateau 50b). Ko phi phi aussi a changé depuis le tsunami. On a fait une excursion sans guide alors demande bien quand tu book une excursion si quelqu'un est là pour vous expliquer les différents points de lîle. La meilleure île coté ouest reste ko lanta ou la mer est magnifique, nous étions au kaw klangbeach à klong dao beach tout au nord. Si besoin d'infos, n'hésites pas et crois moi ko lipe berk!!!! RACHIDA
salut et merci pour les infos! mais je suis franchement déçue! tous les autres messages étaient supers positifs et là vlam grosse gifle! cela dit ça m'étonne limite! je me doutais bien que le soir cela devait être super calme et quand aux guesthouses j'ai trouvé aussi que le prix était bien élevé pour les prestations! en plus pour reserver il faut passer par un site qui te prend 500 baths de commission!
bon alors, Kol Lipe n'est pas le paradis que tout le monde indique! nous qui voulions découvrir une île sans trop de touristes et un peu tranquille! va falloir revoir la donne.
Pour Koh Lanta on a prevu d'y rester 5 jours et j'espère que ça vaut le coup! Koh Phi Phi nous y somme déjà allés il y à 10 ans c'est pour ça qu'on ne savait pas trop si on y retournait (peur d'être déçu!!)!
au fait pourrais tu me dire si c'est possible d'effectuer Koh Lanta Koh Tao dans la meme journée?
merci a plus
et merci a tous pour vos reponses
Effectivement ko phi phi avant le tsunami m'a tellement ébloui de beauté que je suis allée une dizaine de fois en thailande. 5 jours avant le tsunami je quittais la thailande. Choquée, j'avais décidé de garder en mémoire cette île paradisiage et ses rencontres mémorables. 5 ans après, me voilà prête pour redécouvrir ko phi phi. Côté fonds marins et ambiance, j'ai apprécié. Par contre, trop de constructions, de touristes et de bâteaux qui gachent un peu le paysage autrefois sauvage!
Je ne regrette pas d'y être allée, j'étais au pp grand chang resort, un peu excentré du centre et tant mieux. Prix 1300b avec clim et eau chaude. Beaucoup de gesthouses aux alentours du port de 700 à 900b mais sans eau chaude ni clim. C'est la fête en bord de mer, techno house, irish bar, et un bar rock. Côté ambiance, top!
Les prix ont flambés!!!! Le ventilateur suffit pour cette période car pluie de temps en temps... C'est très facile de se loger, pas besoin de booker sur le site à l'avance car commission.
Ko lanta reste sauvage et magnifique dans le sens ou l'on peut marcher, manger en bord de mer et boire un verre... Là aussi, énormémént d'hôtels tout le long de la côte... du nord au sud. J'étais au kaw klang resort, sur la pointe nord, pdj buffet, clim, piscine, eau chaude et vu sur mer 1400b
Ko lanta-ko tao prévoir une journée entière, car il faut passer 'ouest en est, donc traverser les terres...Beaucoup de moustiques!!!!! le 5/5 à fond!
Ko lipe nous étions au moonlight bungalow à 700b avec ventilo et eau froide juste à gauche quand tu débarques sur lîle, les touristes y restent la nuit et s'en vont. Quand je suis arrivée, c'était soi_disant full mais il n'y avait personne... Belle île pour faire des rencontres mais pour la mer et les fonds, c bouteille, déchets, et égouts....et des chiens errants à la pelle qui se battent pour leur territoire (pattaya beach). Normalement cette île devrait être gratuite vu les prestations et le peu de propreté sur la plage et question ambiance, nada. Au fait quand tu arrives à ko lipe tu paies 50b pour prendre un long tail qui t'amène au rivage (c du vol!!!!)... comme si tu pouvais nager avec les bags...
sur phi phi tu paye une taxe pour entre sur l'ile depuis mai 2010 et puis la meme hors saison en oct nov j'ai y vu beaucoup de touriste ! (comme moi ou pas )
J'ai été surprise 20b pour rentrer sur l'île, avant c'était gratuit!!! en 2005 bien sûr!!!!😛
très surpris même mon compagnon de voyage y étais passé en dec 2010 c'étais gratuit du coup on y est resté une nuit seul activité propsé des boite le soire sur la plage ou une bande touriste complétement hivre nous attendais apres une nuit de quelque heurs on a pris le premier bateau pour phuket lol que de bon souvenir !
merci pour toutes les infos concernant Koh Lipe car notre choix est maintenant fait, je pense que nous n'irons pas! on prendra plus de temps ailleurs! en tous cas c'est super ton message est tres explicite a tous points de vues.
J'espère que 5 jours a Koh Lanta ne seront pas trop longs mais au contraire bien remplis!
Salut, je confirme l' avis d'Elfi sur Kho Lipe. J'y suis allé en 2006, le cadre est enchanteur, c'est vrai, mais déjà à l'époque les plastiques et autres déchets étaient présents. Je n'ose imaginer 4 ans plus tard le résultat. Ajoute à cela les va et vients incessants des longtails très bruyants et tu obtiens un coin magnifique où il ne fait pas très bon rester...
MAIS tout dépend du contexte, des gens rencontrés, du temps qu'il fait, de ton humeur, etc, il se peut que tu ailles à kho lipe et que tu tombes sous le charme ! Certains posts parlent de cette ile comme d'un petit coin de paradis...D'un certain coté, le ressenti des voyages reste subjectif. Bon trip !
MAIS tout dépend du contexte, des gens rencontrés, du temps qu'il fait, de ton humeur, etc, il se peut que tu ailles à kho lipe et que tu tombes sous le charme ! Certains posts parlent de cette ile comme d'un petit coin de paradis...D'un certain coté, le ressenti des voyages reste subjectif. Bon trip !
Je confirme l'avis de certains sur Ko Lipe.
Il y a beaucoup de détritus sur les plages, ainsi que des meutes de chiens errants. A cela s'ajoute des longtails de partout, du béton en voit-tu en voilà, des petits chemins mal entretenus et très très mal indiqués, font que Lipe n'a rien de paradisiaque.
En plus, le trajet si vous venez de Lanta est de 1900 baths (50€ !), idem pour le retour.
Le seul point positif est l'île Ko Adang qui est à seulement 10 minutes de bateau, là vous pourrez jouer à Robinson Crusoé. Une merveille car très peu visitée.
Il y a aussi une multitude d'îles en Lanta et Lipe, mais certainement plus cher et sans aucune animation.
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Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
