Bonsoir a tous, voila je dispose de 2 mois pour voyager, j'hesites entre la thailande (ou je suis deja allee) ou l'indonesie, sachant que la thailande m'attire par rapport a ses plages magnifiques, qui ne seront p etre pas aussi belles en indonesie ?
Je voyage plutot routard sac a dos, avec mon copain, je n'arrives pas a faire un choix, je souhaites me reposer, profiter ds plages, mais sans le cote trop touristisque et j'ai peur qu'en thailande il soit difficile aujourd'hui de se poser tranquille sur une plage, sans etre avec des millions de voisins touristes comme moi....🙁
J'y suis allee en 2000 , c'est vrai que j'y ai vu ls plus belles plages, j'adore leur cuisine, qui reveille ms papilles, de ce cote la la thailande a des cote +++++, mais je souhaiterais savoir s'iuls vs semble possible de trouver des endroits paradisiaques encore tranquille ?
Et puis il y a l'indonesie que je ne connais pas, en precisant que je souhaites eviter Bali, enfin eviter c'est un bien gd mot y passer qq jours, mais surtout eviter la horde de touristes, et j'ai l'impression qu'il y a p etre encore des endroits desertes, hors des sentires battus, plus qu'en thailande voila....
Qu'en pensez vs ? Je vs remercie pour ttes ls infos sur ces deux pays, liens utiles , photos...;
Et puis il y a l'indonesie que je ne connais pas, en precisant que je souhaites eviter Bali, enfin eviter c'est un bien gd mot y passer qq jours, mais surtout eviter la horde de touristes, et j'ai l'impression qu'il y a p etre encore des endroits desertes, hors des sentires battus, plus qu'en thailande voila....
Dans ce cas, il y a un coin qui correspond très bien à ce que tu cherches, c'est le Nord de Sumatra vers Pulau Weh au Nord de Banda Aceh.
Peu de monde, des endroits fabuleux.
D'autres VFistes pourront te renseigner sur Sulawesi ou les Moluques.
Si tu veux passer quelques jours à Bali, et ensuite t'en éloigner pour découvrir des endroits moins touristiques, juste à côté tu as l'île de Lombok, notamment la partie Sud de l'île, qui t'apportera tout ce que tu souhaites ...... et même d'un coup d'aile tu peux t'envoler pour Florés un peu plus loin pour d'autres lieux avec de superbes petites îles aux alentours de Labuanbajo, des fonds marins de toute beauté tout autour de Komodo et ses célèbres varans à découvrir ....
MERCI c ce que je pensais faire en fait , lombok, puis flores et carrement alle sur l'archipel d'Alor as tu ds infos ? apparment il n'y a pas beaucoup d'infrastructures ? mais par rapport o fotos vues cela a l'air magnifique qu'en penses tu ?
MERCI POUR TS INFOS... PENSES TU QUE CE SOIT POSSIBLE , est ce par la qu'il y a eu un seisme il n'y a pas longtemps ? ou je me trompe ?
C'est effectivement par là, mais tout est relatif. Le Seisme, c'est à Padang, à quelques jours de bus du Nord de Sumatra.
A banda Aceh, il y a eu le Tsunami.
Regarde un peu les carnets de voyage des VFistes pour te faire une idée de ce que tu peux trouver.
Je ne suis pas sûre qu'il y ait un endroit dans cette zone géographique où tu sois à l'abri d'une quelconque catastrophe. Compte sur ta bonne étoile.
Je ne connais pas Alor ..... juste par des lectures, et effectivement cela a l'air super, mais je pense que c'est surtout une île pour les fans de plongée sous marine, et que tout y fait pour les aficionados de ce " sport " ..... alors à voir, mais de toute façon ce serait un beau trip .....
et uoi c bien le pb !!! il fo se deplacer... arrrrrrrrrrrrr je n'arrive pas ame decider, je connais la thailande pour y etre alle il y a 8 ans maintenant.......et je veux de belles plages et de l'authenticite aussi et j'ai peur que la thailande n'arrive plus a donne cela tellement il y a de tourisme !!!! Y es tu deja alle recemment ? aurais tu d'autres infos a me donner ? p etre connais tu des endroits paradisiaques sans bars a neons, musique a fond....
Oui bien sur et il ne pleut pas non plus tout le temps mais bon ca peut gâcher le séjour car c'est vraiment la pleine saison des pluie en Indo, en Thailande c'est par contre la belle saison et il y a toujours des endroits moins touristiques que Phuket, Phi Phi, Samui & Co ou on peut encore avoir le plaisir de voyager tranquillement. Voir les îles au large de Trang par exemple 😉 De plus les plages sont plus belles en Thailande qu'en Indo me semble t-il, mais je connais mieux celles de Thailande que celles d'Indonésie 😊
et la cuisine est meilleure je pense en thailande😛 je reve de curry, poissons grilles....fruits et autres ....j'avais effectivement regardee autour de trang ca a l'air plus tranquille....merci pour ts infos🙂
Sinon y a toujours Koh Lanta qui est pas trop touristique et tranquille, pas trop de néon ni de musique boum boum mais beaucoup de possibilités de balades et de bonnes bouffes, un peu l'équivalent de Lombok (Lolodesiles pourrait confirmer s'il connaissait Lanta 😉) me semble t-il en Indo 🙂
'ai peur qu'en thailande il soit difficile aujourd'hui de se poser tranquille sur une plage, sans etre avec des millions de voisins touristes comme moi....🙁
Mais si, bien sur que c'est possible! Même sur Samui, tu peux trouver des coins tranquilles! Et il y a encore des iles pratiquement inexploitées... Entre les 2, le choix est encore vaste, ne t'inquiète pas.
Surtout si tu as le temps: les iles les plus touristiques sont les plus accessibles. En ayant 2 mois devant toi, tu peux te permettre de rallier les moins accessibles...
Asie du Sud-Est › Indonésie / Thaïlande · 3 replies
Nous (2 adultes+2 enfants de 10 et 11 ans) avons un aller-retour Dusseldorf-banglok du 26/6 au 23/7/2010. Nous passerons environ 18 jours en Thailande…
Asie du Sud-Est › Indonésie / Thaïlande · 3 replies
Je souhaite partir en voyage seule avec mon sac a dos pendant trois semaines du 5 au 26 mars. J ai deja visité une partie de la thailande sur le mme principe…
Voyager avec des enfants › Indonésie / Thaïlande · 90 replies
Je souhaite partir pour la première fois en Asie l'été prochain, avec ma compagne et notre fille qui aura alors 3 ans et demi, pendant 4 semaines (voire 5). On…
Asie du Sud-Est › Thaïlande / Indonésie · 6 replies
J'ai trois semaines de vacance avec mon copain et nous hésitons entre la Thaïlande et l'Indonésie (Bali, Lombok). Nous partons pour les trois dernières…
Voyager avec des enfants › Thaïlande / Indonésie · 9 replies
Nous allons nous rendre en Asie fin juin début juillet 2010 pour 18 jours environ. Quels conseils me donneriez-vous sur la destination: la Thaïlande ou Bali?…
Bonjour,
Nous envisageons de partir en voyage pour 3 semaines en famille l’été prochain avec nos 3 enfants qui auront 8, 8 et 7 ans.
Après plusieurs recherches nous nous orientons vers la Malaisie afin de pouvoir combiner nature/forets et plages paradisiaques. L’idée étant de faire découvrir la culture du pays à nos enfants ainsi que la nature, les animaux .
Nous souhaitons faire un beau voyage mais sans vouloir partir sur des options luxueuses types lodges et ressorts hors de prix. Nous souhaiterions du confort mais avec un minimum d’authenticité. Un bon intermédiaire en résumé.
J’ai commencé à construire un itinéraire et je souhaiterais avoir vos avis avisés, vos conseils aussi afin de pouvoir continuer à construire ce beau voyage avec nos loulous.
Jour 1 :Départ de France
Jour 2 : Kuala Lumpur
Installation dans un hôtel près de l’aéroport ou de KL Sentral.
1 seule nuit.
Jour 3 : Vol matinal vers Sandakan (Bornéo).
Installation à Sepilok
Jour 4 : Sepilok :
* Centre des orangs-outans
* Centre des ours malais
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Jour 5 : Départ vers Kinabatangan.
Safari en bateau en fin d’après-midi.
Jour 6 : Safari au lever du soleil.
Balade dans la jungle.
Safari du soir.
Jour 7 : Dernier safari.
Retour vers Sandakan.
Vol vers Kuala Lumpur puis vers Kota Bharu (ou nuit de transit selon les horaires).
Jour 8 : Transfert au port.
Bateau pour les îles Perhentian.
Jours 9 à 13 : Perhentian Besar
5 journées complètes.
* snorkeling
* randonnée
* observation des tortues
* plages sauvages
* détente
Jour 14 : Retour sur le continent.
Bus ou voiture privée vers Taman Negara.
Jours 15 et 16 : Taman Negara.
Jour 17 :Retour vers Kuala Lumpur.
Jour 18 : Visite des tours Petronas ou de Batu Caves
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight)
· Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok)
· Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x")
· Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling.
For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees?
We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo.
Thanks for your tips and help!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai.
My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)