Alors voilà, je m'y connais pas du tout en voyage à vélo mais pour dans un mois environ je pars en vélo faire un tour de france voir d'europe des differents ecolieux... Donc mon voyage ne sera pas intensif mais coupé de pause pouvant varier d'une semaine à 6 mois !!! (je ne travaille contre de l'argent qu'en faisant des saisons )... Alors voilà, j'hesite entre un VTC et un VTT, sachant que j'aurais pas mal de bagages à mettre ( mes livres ).... On ma dis qu'un VTT on pouvais pas mettre de porte bagage et autre ( ou alors bricoler un truc mais j'my connais pas et j'sais pas si c cher de se le faire faire) Voilà, donc normalement avec un VTC on peut prendre les chemins difficiles et on rame pas trop sur la route et on peut mettre un porte bagage, c'est cela ??? J'aimerais avoir votre avis pasqu'un VTT c fun aussi pour devaler les cailloux ds le montagne une fois qu'on est posé, ca passe partout.... Voilà, j'attends vos conseils sur ce choix sinon pour le reste cadre alu, pas de suspension, histoire de payer le vélo le moins cher possible et qu'il y ait pas trop de blem..... Si vous avez des conseils de lieux d'achats en occas ou autre, je suis preneur !! A bientot
Pour un voyage à vélo en France: VTC ou VTT?
by Ecovillage
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonsoir,
Alors voilà, je m'y connais pas du tout en voyage à vélo mais pour dans un mois environ je pars en vélo faire un tour de france voir d'europe des differents ecolieux... Donc mon voyage ne sera pas intensif mais coupé de pause pouvant varier d'une semaine à 6 mois !!! (je ne travaille contre de l'argent qu'en faisant des saisons )... Alors voilà, j'hesite entre un VTC et un VTT, sachant que j'aurais pas mal de bagages à mettre ( mes livres ).... On ma dis qu'un VTT on pouvais pas mettre de porte bagage et autre ( ou alors bricoler un truc mais j'my connais pas et j'sais pas si c cher de se le faire faire) Voilà, donc normalement avec un VTC on peut prendre les chemins difficiles et on rame pas trop sur la route et on peut mettre un porte bagage, c'est cela ??? J'aimerais avoir votre avis pasqu'un VTT c fun aussi pour devaler les cailloux ds le montagne une fois qu'on est posé, ca passe partout.... Voilà, j'attends vos conseils sur ce choix sinon pour le reste cadre alu, pas de suspension, histoire de payer le vélo le moins cher possible et qu'il y ait pas trop de blem..... Si vous avez des conseils de lieux d'achats en occas ou autre, je suis preneur !! A bientot
Alors voilà, je m'y connais pas du tout en voyage à vélo mais pour dans un mois environ je pars en vélo faire un tour de france voir d'europe des differents ecolieux... Donc mon voyage ne sera pas intensif mais coupé de pause pouvant varier d'une semaine à 6 mois !!! (je ne travaille contre de l'argent qu'en faisant des saisons )... Alors voilà, j'hesite entre un VTC et un VTT, sachant que j'aurais pas mal de bagages à mettre ( mes livres ).... On ma dis qu'un VTT on pouvais pas mettre de porte bagage et autre ( ou alors bricoler un truc mais j'my connais pas et j'sais pas si c cher de se le faire faire) Voilà, donc normalement avec un VTC on peut prendre les chemins difficiles et on rame pas trop sur la route et on peut mettre un porte bagage, c'est cela ??? J'aimerais avoir votre avis pasqu'un VTT c fun aussi pour devaler les cailloux ds le montagne une fois qu'on est posé, ca passe partout.... Voilà, j'attends vos conseils sur ce choix sinon pour le reste cadre alu, pas de suspension, histoire de payer le vélo le moins cher possible et qu'il y ait pas trop de blem..... Si vous avez des conseils de lieux d'achats en occas ou autre, je suis preneur !! A bientot
salut
superbe idée
y'a pas de probleme pour adapter un porte bagage sur un vtt pour le porte bagage avant sa depend des velos. perso je prefere partir avec un vtt les jantes sont plus larges et donc plus solides par contre c'est vrai que c'est un peu plus difficile. mais de bon pneus genre schwalbe marathon des jantes solides j'aime bien les rigida explorer. bonne route. que du bonheur.
superbe idée
y'a pas de probleme pour adapter un porte bagage sur un vtt pour le porte bagage avant sa depend des velos. perso je prefere partir avec un vtt les jantes sont plus larges et donc plus solides par contre c'est vrai que c'est un peu plus difficile. mais de bon pneus genre schwalbe marathon des jantes solides j'aime bien les rigida explorer. bonne route. que du bonheur.
Attention, sur certains vtt y'a pas de quoi fixé le porte bagages!!!(vérifié y'a une semaine avec Tazz!)
Mais apparemment t'es plutôt budget limité donc tu n'aura pas de problème!! Tu pourra peut être ton bonheur sur ebay mais en faisant attention d'essayer au maximum le(s) vélo(s) potentiel qui t'interesse!!
Sinon tu peux essayer sur vélovert.com aussi dans la partie annonce
Vince
Vince
salut, a mon avis, un vtc ne t'apportera aucun avantage par rapport à un vtt! souvent, les vtc ne sont que des vtt bas de gamme, montés avec des roues de 700! alors que pour les régions montagneuses, pour supporter la charge, pour la solidité et la fiabilité sur les chemins... des roues de 26" seront souvent plus solides et mieux adaptés! d'autant qu'un vtt avec des pneus de route roule aussi bien qu'un vtc avec la même section de pneus! on trouve des pneus slick pour roues 26" (vtt) à partir des sections 1" (donc 25) moi sur route, je roule avec un vtt semi-rigide leger (mais fiable) et des pneus Marathon Slick 1, 35":
http://photo.pinkbike.com/photo/337/pbpic337257.jpg
(des pneus de 1, 75" de section, pour le voyage, seraient plus polyvalent!!!) et pour rouler chargé sur chemins, il n'y a pas de problemes (avec des pneus de 2"):
http://photo.pinkbike.com/photo/527/pbpic527926.jpg
(faire un copier/coller du lien dans une nouvelle fenêtre) si tu veux te simplifier la vie, choisis impérativement un vélo qui dispose déjà d'inserts M5 soudés sur le cadre à l'arrière (soudé sur les haubans) afin de permettre le montage d'un porte bagage. sinon il y a toujours des solutions avec des colliers ou autres bidoulles, mais c'est dommage! pour la fourche AV, rigide ou suspendue, c'est une affaire de gout pour le voyage!
pour les trés longts barouds sur route et pistes, une fourche rigide est surement plus fiable!
mais un vélo avec une fourche suspendue sera plus polyvalent pour une utilisation mixte VTT/voyage.
pour un budget limité, je te conseil de regarder chez décathlon, le rapport qualité/prix est reconnu comme bon!
as tu déjà défini un budget? ça permettrait de te conseiller des modèles précis!
bon choix! 😉
Salut tout l'monde,
Merci pour vous infos ! Merci Pat, je pense que je me dirigerais vers un Vtt ( Mais j'ai pas beaucoup compris à tes explications de pneu 😕 ) Donc pour mon budget, comme je vous l'ai dis plus haut, je ne tiens pas à avaler 100 km par jour pendant une longue periode, donc pas d'utilisation intensive du vélo tous les jours... MOn budget est assez limité, c'est pour ca que un vélo d'occas m'aurait interessé, on ma envoyé sur velovert et le moins cher d'occas etais à 470 euros 😎 Haha, on a pas la meme conception de vélo pas cher 😮 J'ai vu un post qui disait que les vélo decathlon etais pas vraiment bon, mais en meme temps quand je vois les pris des vtt suspendu qui commence à 130 euros, c'est sur qu'il doivent faire un bon rapport qualité/prix....Encore faut-il en trouver un où je puisse mettre un porte bagage, si ca se trouve ils en vendent aucun comme ca... Donc le budget, si je compte l'achat global (vélo, pneus, sacoches arrieres/ avant, porte bagage, lampe), je dirais 300-350 euros et pour le vélo seul je dirais 200 max (eh oui c'est limité mais moi et l'argent on est pas trop copain, et encore chu riche en ce moment !!! 🙂 )
Bonne journée à tous
Merci pour vous infos ! Merci Pat, je pense que je me dirigerais vers un Vtt ( Mais j'ai pas beaucoup compris à tes explications de pneu 😕 ) Donc pour mon budget, comme je vous l'ai dis plus haut, je ne tiens pas à avaler 100 km par jour pendant une longue periode, donc pas d'utilisation intensive du vélo tous les jours... MOn budget est assez limité, c'est pour ca que un vélo d'occas m'aurait interessé, on ma envoyé sur velovert et le moins cher d'occas etais à 470 euros 😎 Haha, on a pas la meme conception de vélo pas cher 😮 J'ai vu un post qui disait que les vélo decathlon etais pas vraiment bon, mais en meme temps quand je vois les pris des vtt suspendu qui commence à 130 euros, c'est sur qu'il doivent faire un bon rapport qualité/prix....Encore faut-il en trouver un où je puisse mettre un porte bagage, si ca se trouve ils en vendent aucun comme ca... Donc le budget, si je compte l'achat global (vélo, pneus, sacoches arrieres/ avant, porte bagage, lampe), je dirais 300-350 euros et pour le vélo seul je dirais 200 max (eh oui c'est limité mais moi et l'argent on est pas trop copain, et encore chu riche en ce moment !!! 🙂 )
Bonne journée à tous
salut ecovillage!
vu ton budget, l'occasion s'impose! le neuf ne sera probablement pas de bonne qualité!
tu as donc interet a visiter les vélocistes de ta région pour trouver la perle rare!
en occasion, tu peux trouver LE vélo... "un peu passé de mode", que le vélociste aurra repris à contre coeur... pour vendre un vélo neuf, et qui sera en fait un excellent vélo pour voyager!
il y a quelques années, je me suis fait reprendre par mon vélociste un Giant Terrago, tout rigide, en acier CRMO, 21 vitesse LX, avec tous les inserts AV AR pour monter des portes bagages AV AR, bref.... le vélo PARFAIT pour voyager.... et pour une bouchée de pain!!!😕
je m'en mors encore les doigts quand je vois la difficulté que l'on a pour trouver aujourd'hui ce genre de vélo "simple"!!! 🤪
pour les pneus, je voulais juste dire qu'un vtt n'est "tout terrain" qu'en fonction des pneus que l'on y monte! et qu'avec des pneus de route... ça donne un vélo de randonnée sur route tout a fait respectable!!! 😉
bonne chance dans ta recherche! 🙂
Ok !
J'abandonne l'idée d'acheter le SUPERBE VTT DECATHLON SUSPENDU FLAMBANT NEUF POUR SEULEMENT 129 euros !!!
Remarque si il me lache au bout de 6 mois, sera plus si joli que ca 😕
J'vais essayer de trouver un velo dans des petites boutiques mais bon c'est toujours plus cher, enfin j'verrais bien !
Bonne journée à tous ! 😛
Remarque si il me lache au bout de 6 mois, sera plus si joli que ca 😕
J'vais essayer de trouver un velo dans des petites boutiques mais bon c'est toujours plus cher, enfin j'verrais bien !
Bonne journée à tous ! 😛
Hello,
Perso j'suis pas d'accord ! Tu vas faire plus de route que de chemin, donc VTC à mon avis. Le VTT est plus court que le VTC, du coup tu vas choper mal au dos. Les suspensions, c'est pas une bonne idée. D'une part avec ton budget elles vont pas faire long feu, d'autre part ça va te bouffer une énergie folle sur le bitume. Les roues des VTC sont plus grandes (c'est du 700), tu fatigue moins. Pour les bagages, c'est fait pour, pas le VTT. Du coup question équilibre, c'est conseillé. Tu dis que tu pars pour faire un Tour d'Europe. Honnêtement, si tu pars sur du long court, c'est pas prudent de se dire que tu vas dévaler les côtes plein pneu dans tes jours de repos. Si tu te pète la gueule au fin fond de l'Autriche, ton budget rapatriement va en prendre un coup...
Enfin, ce n'est que mon avis perso. Je pars pour un Tour de 3000 bornes en Nouvelle Zélande, ou toutes les routes ne sont pas goudronnées. Je ne me suis pas posé la question. Dès que j'ai posé le pied ici, j'ai filé dans un magasin de vélo pour m'acheter un VTC. Je l'ai payé environ 200 euros, et ils me le rachéteront moitié prix. 100 euros l'engin, qui dit mieux !
Voilà voilà. Dans tous les cas bon courage.C'est super de partir comem ça à vélo, tu vas en voir du pays ! Si tu veux des conseils pour les routes en Europe, alors l'Allemagne, la Slovénie et la Pologne (spécialement en VTT!). Les pistes cyclables italiennes sont aussi très praticables en VTT !
Bon courage Julien
Perso j'suis pas d'accord ! Tu vas faire plus de route que de chemin, donc VTC à mon avis. Le VTT est plus court que le VTC, du coup tu vas choper mal au dos. Les suspensions, c'est pas une bonne idée. D'une part avec ton budget elles vont pas faire long feu, d'autre part ça va te bouffer une énergie folle sur le bitume. Les roues des VTC sont plus grandes (c'est du 700), tu fatigue moins. Pour les bagages, c'est fait pour, pas le VTT. Du coup question équilibre, c'est conseillé. Tu dis que tu pars pour faire un Tour d'Europe. Honnêtement, si tu pars sur du long court, c'est pas prudent de se dire que tu vas dévaler les côtes plein pneu dans tes jours de repos. Si tu te pète la gueule au fin fond de l'Autriche, ton budget rapatriement va en prendre un coup...
Enfin, ce n'est que mon avis perso. Je pars pour un Tour de 3000 bornes en Nouvelle Zélande, ou toutes les routes ne sont pas goudronnées. Je ne me suis pas posé la question. Dès que j'ai posé le pied ici, j'ai filé dans un magasin de vélo pour m'acheter un VTC. Je l'ai payé environ 200 euros, et ils me le rachéteront moitié prix. 100 euros l'engin, qui dit mieux !
Voilà voilà. Dans tous les cas bon courage.C'est super de partir comem ça à vélo, tu vas en voir du pays ! Si tu veux des conseils pour les routes en Europe, alors l'Allemagne, la Slovénie et la Pologne (spécialement en VTT!). Les pistes cyclables italiennes sont aussi très praticables en VTT !
Bon courage Julien
salut juleblay, dans le principe, la seule chose qui différencie un vtt d'un vtc, c'est le diametre des roues et le type de pneus!
et là, on peut faire le parallèle avec les roues de 650 des randonneuses traditionnelles, parfaitement adaptés à la randonnée par définition. 650 c'est trés proche de 26". question géométrie, confort... tout existe dans le vtt, du court, du long, du slopping... . il est important de bien choisir la taille du cadre aussi, et regler le recul de selle, adapter la hauteur/longueur de potence, la largeur du cintre...etc... je pense donc qu'un vtt bien préparé peut etre parfaitement adapté à la grande randonnée! de toute façon, la notion de vtt ou vtc ne veut pas dire grand chose! il y a du bon et du mauvais dans chaque catégories! pour les suspension, je suis 100% d'accord avec toi! surtout pour un tour d'Europe!!!
Hello !
Tu as sans doute raison quand tu dis qu'un VTT bien réglé doit être bon pour la route. Mais en fait, dans le premier message, notre ami cycliste disait vouloir dévaler les pentes à bloc. A mon avis les réglages ne sont pas les mêmes pour ces deux types d'utilisation !
Pour résumer, VTT ou VTC, peut importe. Le tout est d'en faire une seule et même utilité. C'est à mon avis une très mauvaise idée de partir pour un Tour d'Europe, avec toute l'énergie que ça demande (je parle en connaissance de cause), et de vouloir faire de la descente en VTT en même temps... Pas très prudent.
Dis moi si je me trompe?! Sur ce, il est bientôt minuit ici, je vais me coucher ! A bientôt Julien
Dis moi si je me trompe?! Sur ce, il est bientôt minuit ici, je vais me coucher ! A bientôt Julien
effectivement, faire un tour d'europe et faire de la descente avec le même vélo!!! pas trés compatible!!!
sur ce... bonne nuit! 😉
salut,
moi j'ai essayé les 2 voici ce que j'en pense
le vtc est plus maniable sur route que le vtt, autre avantage, t'est presque sur d'avoir toutes les attaches disponible pour rajouter porte bagages avant, porte bagage arrière, garde boue béquille...
Pour les chemin il est beaucoup moins maniable surtout lorsqu'on est chargé. Le sable la boue est a déconseillé pour le vtc, encore moins les bosse (sauf si t'a des superbes roues)-- le vtt est beaucoup plus costaud sur tout type de route mais moins avantageux sur la belle route (le bitume par exemple), il est cependant très solide, les roues se voile moins que le vtc (je parle pour 1 même gamme de prix) si tu choisit la bonne taille tu n'auras pas mal au dos (normallement). autre avantage tu trouve plus facillement des chambre a air de 26'' dans les ptit magasin si jamais t'es en rade de pneu--
je roule actuellement en vtt avec des roue hutchinson 1.2 (30 euros la paire) tu peut rouler 5000 km avec ces pneu sans problème. il a fallu adapter 1 porte bagage avant fabriquer artisannalement ainsi qu'une béquille et des garde boue.
les 2 choix sont possible, même 1vélo de course est possible tout dépend de ce que tu veux en faire
Pour les chemin il est beaucoup moins maniable surtout lorsqu'on est chargé. Le sable la boue est a déconseillé pour le vtc, encore moins les bosse (sauf si t'a des superbes roues)-- le vtt est beaucoup plus costaud sur tout type de route mais moins avantageux sur la belle route (le bitume par exemple), il est cependant très solide, les roues se voile moins que le vtc (je parle pour 1 même gamme de prix) si tu choisit la bonne taille tu n'auras pas mal au dos (normallement). autre avantage tu trouve plus facillement des chambre a air de 26'' dans les ptit magasin si jamais t'es en rade de pneu--
je roule actuellement en vtt avec des roue hutchinson 1.2 (30 euros la paire) tu peut rouler 5000 km avec ces pneu sans problème. il a fallu adapter 1 porte bagage avant fabriquer artisannalement ainsi qu'une béquille et des garde boue.
les 2 choix sont possible, même 1vélo de course est possible tout dépend de ce que tu veux en faire
Tout a fait d'accord pour le velo de course. il est possible d'y amenager des portes bagages. Du coup, c'est que du bonheur sur les routes. Evidemment, pour ce qui est des chemins...
J'ai souvenir de routes en Slovenie ou j'ai du poser pied a terre ( j'etais en velo de route) et continuer a pied. Il faut donc choisir son parcours soigneusement ! De meme pour les routes Polonaises, qui sont vraiment les pires de toutes...
Bon courage
Bon courage
bonjour, je m'apprête à partir en vacances à vélo avec mes enfants cet été, et, comme ils ne portent pas de bagages (à part un sac à dos pas trop lourd) je vais acheter sur ebay une remorque à vélo qui vient d'allemagne, cela coute environ 80 euros (port compris).
Je crois qu'il faut que tu fasses une évaluation du chemin que tu comptes emprunter, route, forêts, endroits sauvages. Avec un vtt je ne crois pas que tu puisses accrocher une remorque à cause du terrain accidenté.. par contre j'envisage de suivre le canal de rennes à nantes, ainsi je suis sûre de ne pas croiser de voitures et d'avoir des chemins plats et bien entretenus
voilà, nous pouvons continuer à échanger des pistes de réflexion en commun si tu veux
liliane
Bonjour
Personnellement j'ai un VTT Trek 4500 maintenant avec des portes bagages avant et arrière très pratique est qui passe partout.Avant ça j'avais un VTC Décathlon Triban trail 7 qui n'était pas fait pour les terrains très cassant .Je trouve les VTT plus polyvalent, mais bien sur plus lourd.
voici le lien de mon Trek 4500
lien porte bagage avant avec fourche suspendue
A travers la France 2007
La grange Yamaska
Quel expérience as tu de ton low rider sur fourche suspendue ? Ce montage est-il solide ? Quel poids, utilisation uniquement route, route & chemin, etc. C'est un bricolage ou c'est vendu comme ça ? Est ce un low rider de marque Axiom qu'on trouve sur un site VPC anglais ?
Merci ;-)
Aero
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This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉