Namasté,
Bien sûr il a des milliers de morts dans le monde liés au COVD 19, bien sûr il y a bien plus de désastres dans les familles touchées par l’infection, mais je voulais juste avoir une pensée pour les Népalais qui subissent la double peine de cette pandémie.
J’ai des relations avec un responsable d’agence de treks à KTM, avec deux accompagnateurs de moyenne ( ?!) montagne et un guide de haute montagne.
Pour eux l’avenir est très sombre et leur situation à court terme par le manque de touristes étrangers est quasi dramatique, mais je pense aussi à toutes ces personnes qui en vivent : porteurs, guesthouses, commerces etc etc..
Fait chier !
A++
Le Belu
Bonjour, je viens visiter le nepal avec ma fille de 18 ans.
Ni elle ni moi ne sommes partant pour des treks de plusieurs jours (ballade à la journée autour des villes visitée)
Nous venons 19 jours mais avec l'envie de profiter de shiva ratri au milieu du sejour que nous pensons passer à Kathmandou. ce qui complique pour faire un grand tour.
Je pensais donc passer les Premiers jours à et autour de kathmandou puis partir un peu plus loin.
que faire donc autour de kathmandou?
Pour un tour de 8 jours? le classique Bandipur - pokhara - lumbini - chitwan ?? ce n'est pas beaucoup de route en si peu de temps?
merci de vos conseils
Ni elle ni moi ne sommes partant pour des treks de plusieurs jours (ballade à la journée autour des villes visitée)
Nous venons 19 jours mais avec l'envie de profiter de shiva ratri au milieu du sejour que nous pensons passer à Kathmandou. ce qui complique pour faire un grand tour.
Je pensais donc passer les Premiers jours à et autour de kathmandou puis partir un peu plus loin.
que faire donc autour de kathmandou?
Pour un tour de 8 jours? le classique Bandipur - pokhara - lumbini - chitwan ?? ce n'est pas beaucoup de route en si peu de temps?
merci de vos conseils
NAMASTE NEPAL! PRACTICAL INFO AND EXPERIENCE FEEDBACK
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
Stay from March 25 to April 16, 2025
· Flight tickets Air India (via Delhi) (via Skyscanner) = 1130 € per person · Planned budget (and respected without too many restrictions and while buying a few small gifts) = 2000 € for the stay for two. Buses, taxis, and entrance fees to various sites represent a budget to consider. Meals are cheap. Drinks like beer/Coke, however, are not cheap and cost the equivalent of a meal. · Exchange rate of the rupee during our stay = 0.0064 € (the exchange rate is almost identical everywhere, including at the airport). · At the airport, purchase of two SIM cards (phone) = 1000 NPR x 2 for 28 days. · Kathmandu: we had booked the hotel upon arrival: Kathmandu Boutique Hotel (+977 015 357 446 – email: booking@kathmanduboutiquehotel.com), very well located in a quiet alley off the street, south of Thamel, a 10-minute walk from Durbar Square. A hotel like Nepal knows how to do, where tall people will have to duck. Night + breakfast = 18 € for two. Very warm welcome, great location, excellent value for money. · Bhaktapur: we had also booked a hotel for the end of our stay because the chance of the year 2025 made the Nepali New Year and Bisket Jatra particularly festive in Bhaktapur: Manju Baha Hotel School (+977 976 7234014 – email: manjubahahotel@gmail.com) located in an old monastery. "A social enterprise transforming an old monastery into a charming hotel, offering professional hospitality training to underprivileged Nepali youth." Night + breakfast = 32 € for two. Beautifully decorated room. Very warm welcome. Don’t miss the Changunarayan site (near Bhaktapur), it’s amazing. And if you’re lucky enough to be in Bhaktapur in mid-April for 3 days, there’s the Bisket Jatra festivities (Newari festival), joyful, noisy, fun, and wild… · Pokhara (hotel recommended by the Kathmandu hotel): Hotel Green Tara, Lakeside, 10th street, set back, quiet (Tel. +977 61 462698 – email: greentara_67@hotmail.com) · Trek permit (Lower Mustang, no need for an agency or guide, permits checked at Ghasa and Jomsom) = 2000 NPR per person (2 ID photos) · Bus Kathmandu/Pokhara and return = 2000 NPR per person · Bus Pokhara/Jomsom, 2 one-way tickets = 2800 NPR. · Taxi: negotiation with a driver we recommend, Vicky (+977 984 075 599). You explain what you want, negotiate the price, and he waits for you during the visit. Very charming, we used him several times. For example: departure from our hotel at 10 AM -> Boudhanath/Pashupatinath/Patan return at 5 PM to the hotel = 6500 NPR – Swayambhunath (round trip) = 1200 NPR · Site prices: https://ntb.gov.np/plan-your-trip/before-you-come/heritage-site-entry-fees o Visitor Pass for Kathmandu Durbar Square (for the duration of the stay, show your visa) = 1000 NPR per person (1 ID photo) o Bhaktapur Durbar Square (old town) = 1800 NPR per person o Patan = 1000 NPR per person o Swayambhu Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Boudha Stupa = 200 NPR per person o Pashupatinath Temple = 1000 NPR per person (interesting to take a guide) o Changunarayan Temple (6 km north of Bhaktapur) = 400 NPR per person o Mountain Museum in Pokhara = 750 NPR per person · E-cigarettes: e-cigarettes are banned in India and confiscated whether they’re in carry-on or checked luggage. On the way there, we had kept them in our carry-on, they were confiscated in Delhi. On the way back, learning from our previous experience, we put them in our checked luggage. Someone came to get us to take them out of our bags and confiscate them… You can find e-cigarettes and products in Kathmandu.
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I’m 74 years old. I went to Nepal in 1982, 1983, and the last time in 1986. I wanted to introduce this beautiful and endearing country to my husband, and it was… now or never. So we decided it was now.
I knew the trek starting from Pokhara: Naudanda/Birethanti/Ghorepani/Tatopani/Kalopani. There was no way I was going to do that trek, especially the 1000-meter staircase to reach Ghorepani… You have to stay humble with age.
Back then, the road didn’t exist. I didn’t consider, with the construction of this road (NH48) along the western bank of the Kali Gandaki, doing a trek along a windy and dusty road. Was there an alternative hiking trail on the eastern bank? No one answered my question on VoyageForum, so I did my research online. And I found this site: "Andrées de Ruiter and Prem Rai - Trekking the Annapurna Circuit, including the new NATT trails that avoid the road - A guide to one of the most beautiful trekking regions in Nepal and the world (2011) - NATT = New Annapurna Trekking Trail".
Phew! A solution was emerging. This circuit from 2011 wasn’t fully marked. The idea was to go from Jomsom to Tatopani, so we needed to make sure the path was well-marked all the way, which we did, and the path exists, marked in red and white!
So, with the walking times information, we built our 8-day circuit:
· Jomsom/Thinigaon · Thinigaon/Chimang · Chimang/Saura · Saura/Kokhetanti · Rest day or, if in good shape: loop to Sekong Lake · Kokhetanti/Jhipra Deurali · Jhipra Deurali/Kopchepani · Kopchepani/Tatopani
It’s a senior trek, after all. So the walking times noted on the sites indicated 3 hours or even 4 hours for the two longest stages. That pace suited us fine.
On March 29, we left Kathmandu (1400m), after visiting the must-see sites, by bus to Pokhara: 200 km and 8.5 hours on a chaotic road under construction. I had a memory of Pokhara where it was the first city where you could see the Himalayan range, especially Machhapuchhare. But the pollution is such, the dust raised by traffic and construction, that no horizon is visible except the first hills around Pokhara.
We stayed 24 hours in Pokhara (820m), and on March 31, we left our luggage at the hotel and set off with our lightest backpacks: change of clothes, toiletries, first aid kit, anti-chafing cream, water bottle, sleeping bag liner, and light shoes for the stages.
We took the bus to Jomsom: 160 km/7.5 hours including stops for bathroom breaks, tea, and lunch. The road is nothing but a chaos of potholes, landslides, construction, dust, rebuilding, and mudslides. In Ghasa, the bus stops, and we’re told we’re at a checkpoint and that the two foreigners in the bus, my husband and I, need to have our permits checked, which takes a few minutes. The driving is rock-and-roll, surprising, and courteous. The drivers have their codes, and on these improbable roads, they’re virtuosos.
We could have chosen the plane, but several reasons dissuaded us: if there’s too much wind, the planes don’t take off; personally, I wasn’t reassured about landing in Jomsom, and this transport has a cost.
We arrived around 2 PM in Jomsom (2720m), and despite the early wake-up, the nearly 8 hours on the bus, and the altitude, we decided to head straight to Thinigaon (2840m). At the Jomsom checkpoint, they told us it was a 30-minute walk. Great! Except we took an hour and a half on an uphill road, bent over to fight a strong wind. But the Himalayan range is there! The Dhaulagiri, the Nilgiri, the Annapurnas as a reward.
In Thinigaon, we found a room at the "Nilgiri View Hotel" run by a didi (big sister in Nepali). From the lodge’s roof, she proudly showed us the different peaks surrounding the village and told us, worried, that it hadn’t snowed here for 3 years. She said there are very few tourists, that the season is rather in September/October/November. It seems there’s not a soul in this village, yet mules pass through the narrow street paved with large flat stones, their bells ringing. We dine at 6 PM and go to bed… Room = 1200 NPR and dinner, breakfast, and drinks = 2560 NPR.
On April 1, we set off at 9 AM, not for Chimang as planned but for Marpha! The didi from the Thinigaon lodge had said it was a 3-hour walk. The first part of this stage is attractive, the mountains are magnificent and imposing, the landscape is superb, there’s no one around, a feeling of being "alone in the world." We follow Dhumbra Tal, this small green lake. The path is a rocky track that climbs steeply. Then, around a hill, we start the big descent that joins the Kali Gandaki. We face the wind head-on, and the violent gusts take our breath away, throw us off balance, and envelop us in dust. We see the road on the other side of the Kali Gandaki. We arrive in the village of Chhairo at 2 PM, completely exhausted and with blistered feet, after 5 hours of walking instead of the planned 3.5 hours.
We’re welcomed by the village nurse, who tells us there’s a lodge in the village. Chhairo is a Tibetan village, a 20-minute walk from Marpha (according to the locals, multiply by 2 or even 3 for us…). We’re going to revise our trek plan and, first of all, spend the night in Chhairo.
The lodge is quite pleasant, and Karma, the hostess, is very friendly. She asks about our plans and suggests we stay in Chhairo the next day, from where we can visit Marpha and also Chimang, a 1-hour walk away, in light mode, meaning without backpacks. She invites us to participate in a village ceremony the next evening.
We immediately accept the proposal, as our feet need rest and the welcome is so warm… Dinner and bed!
We reworked our trek plan, which was too ambitious for our untrained bodies and, let’s face it… no longer in our first youth. In the initial plan, we thought there wouldn’t be too much elevation gain following the Kali Gandaki, but checking the map, we realize there might be significant elevation changes between Sauru and Sirkung. So we plan:
· Tomorrow: visit Marpha (2670m) and Chimang (2744m) · April 3: bus from Chhairo (2700m) to Kalopani (2530m) and continue on foot to Ghasa (2010m) · April 4: Ghasa/Pairataplo (1940m) · April 5: Pairatapla/Gadpar (1580m) · April 6: Gadpar/Narchyang (1510m) · April 7: Narchyang/Tatopani (1190m) · April 8: return to Pokhara.
Normally, it’s all downhill…
April 2, a rest day then… We set off in the morning to explore Marpha. We have to take a temporary bridge because the suspension bridge is closed due to road construction. We join the road and arrive in Marpha, a village famous for its apple orchards, brandy, cider, and apple juice production. This village is magnificent with its stone houses and monastery clinging to the hillside. The road construction spared it. There are people, but very few Western tourists.
We have lunch in Marpha and go back through Chhairo to take the path to Chimang. We cross a fragrant pine forest and find the rocky path; the landscape is splendid. We walk quietly, passing peaceful buffaloes and cows, and arrive at the foot of a stone staircase… 275 steps (which we counted on the way back) leading us to the village of Chimang. Chimang is an isolated Newari village that seems a bit desolate. Despite the slopes, there are crops on every little bit of land. Thankfully, we changed our initial program because there’s no lodge in this village, contrary to what we saw on a map… We wander through the village, which seems very deserted, have coffee in a house from another world, and then head back to Chhairo.
A rest day? = 5 hours of walking!!
Dinner and village ceremony. From what we understand, this ceremony is in honor of the Dalai Lama. Men, women, and children in traditional costumes gather twice a month; they dance, make, and offer small sweet cakes with Tibetan tea (made from tea, yak butter—often rancid—water, and salt). Surprising for first-timers…
Around 10 PM, we leave the ceremony; tomorrow morning, we need to be on the roadside by 7 AM to catch the bus to Kalopani…
This village of Chhairo is very pleasant and welcoming, no tourists, just two motorcyclists who arrived in the evening, one of whom participated in the ceremony and discreetly poured his Tibetan tea outside.
Lodge: "Norsang Tibetan Guesthouse and Restaurant". Total bill for 2 nights, 2 dinners, 2 breakfasts, and drinks = 8000 NPR.
April 3: bus from Chhairo to Kalopani, about 1.5 hours for the 20 km (200 NPR per person). We descend on the right bank of the Kali Gandaki. We find the red and white markings to resume the trek toward Ghasa. We’re in a fragrant pine forest, the Dhaulagiri on one side and the Annapurnas on the other, magnificent, and the path is pleasant and easy. We get a bit lost in this forest, always looking for the markings. Near Lete, two trekkers pass us, and we meet them again a little further on with two very young children, to whom we give the 2 hard-boiled eggs I didn’t eat this morning. They accepted them without hesitation.
We arrive in a village and ask for directions to Ghasa. The young girls point the way. But we come across a forest being logged, trees cut in all directions. We turn back and ask for confirmation. They confirm… But the two young girls catch up with us and clear the way. We have to step over, go around, and cross the felled trees, with no indication at all. Through this pick-up sticks of felled trees, the girls lead us to the top of a stone staircase, indicating that was the path. It’s the only place where we saw rhododendrons in bloom.
We descend the staircase. At the bottom, to the left, there’s a bridge to go toward Choyo, and to the right, a path to Ghasa. We take the right path and join the road. We should normally find the red and white markings, but we don’t… So we continue on the western bank road of the Kali Gandaki.
A little before the village of Misi, we see fumaroles on the opposite bank that seem to come from the ground. We don’t understand. We stopped to eat in the village of Misi (noodle soup = 600 NPR), but it’s hard to communicate with the elderly people running the guesthouse.
We continued on the road, not finding the marked path parallel to the road. Landslides, both on the left and right banks, seem to have taken over the marked routes. It’s a place where the Kali Gandaki gorge narrows, and on the opposite bank, the mountain smokes more and more, and we now hear the crackling of fire. Across from us, the mountain is burning… Our initial plan had us passing on that burning bank right now…
We arrive in Ghasa at 3:30 PM, a 6.5-hour stage but with a 1-hour stop at noon. We’re at the "Florida Guesthouse and Restaurant." From our room, we see the mountain smoking on the other side of the river, and at night, we see the flames. In this village, posters show Himalayan eagles and vultures that seem to be protected species. Indeed, we saw (and heard) 3 eagles circling today.
April 4 – Today, heading to Pairothapla or Kopchepani depending on our feet, accommodation options, and simply our desires.
No more smoke on the mountain this morning. It’s chilly, 7:45 AM, the sky is clear, just a smell of smoke outside.
Price of the lodge = 1000 NPR for the night + 3580 NPR for meals.
We cross Ghasa, which stretches over more than a kilometer. We have a drink at the last guesthouse in the village, and the didi, when she learns our destination, tells us to be careful because the villages we’re going to aren’t safe. Should we distribute our rupees in different pockets? Nah, we kept going.
At the exit of Ghasa, we find the red and white markings and take the suspension bridge to cross the boiling waters of the Kali Gandaki. The passage is impressive because the river is tumultuous. Lots of climbs and even more descents. We’re back on the eastern bank. It’s hot! On the narrow path, we meet a group of buffaloes. Who has the right of way? We decide to stick as close as possible to the rock wall and move forward calmly. The buffaloes look at us, chewing placidly, with no intention of jumping on us. Phew!
After a 5-hour stage (including stops), we arrive in Pairothapla, with hot feet and firm thighs, and decide we won’t go any further. It’s a good thing because there’s a lodge, the most basic so far, but with a great welcome. We have a meal and a short nap. The buffaloes we met on the way belong to this house. They come to drink at the fountain by the path.
Our host, very pleasant, doesn’t know what to do to please us and is very attentive. He wants to chat. He has two children, a 4-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy. Where do they go to school? Do they go? He tells us that the fires in the mountain are caused by people, but for what reason? We won’t find out, but it’s illegal. From here, we can still see smoke rising in the distance. The wife is a bit less friendly. Corn kernels dry on a woven straw mat on the ground, and the mom sorts them.
From where we are, we overlook the valley and see the road under construction winding along the mountainside on the other bank.
Dinner on the terrace of the house overlooking the path, windbreaker and fleece on: dal bhat chicken for me and chicken curry for my husband: "organic" products, at least local production. There are small vegetable gardens everywhere with all sorts of vegetables.
April 5 – While we’re having breakfast on the terrace of our lodge, 5 porters, straps on their foreheads, heavily loaded, pass by on the path. A few minutes later, a group of 9 people appears. It must be said that since the beginning of our journey, we’ve met very few hikers. Two backpackers in Chhairo, the two hikers near Lete, two female hikers passed us before Pairothapla, a solo female hiker passed us…
The lodge in Pairothapla is called "Bimala Lodge & Thakali Kitchen" – Price for night + 4 meals + 2 breakfasts = 3000 NPR.
The descent toward the Kali Gandaki involves climbs whose steps we didn’t count. Clearly, the landslides on the mountain cause changes to the official ACAP trek marked in red and white, and the marking updates can’t keep up with the pace of these landslides. It’s almost always by chance that we find the markings. Fortunately, we can follow the power line that guides us somewhat.
Drink stop in Kopchepani, the legs are fine, but the feet don’t like being tightly enclosed. A group of trekkers with porters passes on the path. We met buffaloes that we kindly let pass; the path was wide enough, but it was a staircase going up, and we didn’t want to take any risks.
Across, a view of the magnificent Rupse Waterfall on the other bank of the Kali Gandaki, at the bottom, lots of vehicles and people.
Arrival in Gadpar after crossing a rather unwelcoming small village and cultivated gardens between dry stone walls, each better built than the last.
First lodge spotted, first lodge adopted to answer the call of our feet, and a very warm welcome from the owner. Since we hadn’t eaten at noon, we had Tibetan bread/jam. 6-hour stage including 1 hour of stops. Night + dinner + breakfast + drinks = 5060 NPR
April 6 – Today, heading to Narchyang.
For several days, we’ve seen banana trees with their bunches of fruit and even a prickly pear with large fruits ripening.
This stage is quite peaceful and pleasant. We take a suspension bridge to cross a tributary of the Kali Gandaki. While we’re resting for a moment before crossing the bridge, a couple of porters, a man and a woman, arrive and start across the bridge with their wood load in a basket held by a strap on their forehead, making them bend. We set off too… lighter than them.
On the other side of the bridge… a stone staircase, and it climbs steeply. The porter couple didn’t take this staircase; they went right on the path.
At the top of the staircase, we arrive in Narchyang after a 4-hour stage. A magnificent waterfall overlooks the village. We get lost in this fairly large village looking for a lodge. After wandering around for a while, we ask for directions, and an 84-year-old man takes us through the whole village and accompanies us to a very nice lodge run by a woman.
We chat with our hostess, who asks where we’re from and where we’re going. We explain that we want to reach Tatopani the next day and then return to Pokhara. She tells us there are 4x4s going directly to Pokhara and that it would probably be easier than taking a bus that might be full in Tatopani. After a quick consultation, we decide to return to Pokhara the next day by 4x4. She finds us a 4x4 with 2 seats left, departure at 8 AM – 5 hours on the road and 1500 NPR per person. A charming didi who does everything to be pleasant and helpful.
Narchyang community lodge = night + snacks + dinner + breakfast = 3000 NPR.
There you go, our trek ends tomorrow. Many necessary changes and adaptations to our initial trek, but no regrets, it was superb and a great experience that, for my part, I won’t be able to repeat. Always this encounter with the endearing, welcoming, curious, and very kind Nepali people. It was now or never, and we did it!
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In conclusion, 3 full weeks in Nepal is a duration that allows visiting Kathmandu, Patan, and Bhaktapur, enjoying the various sites, and soaking in the atmosphere and urban Nepali life.
The trek, even revised and corrected, allowed us to get close to the impressive Annapurna and Dhaulagiri peaks. One or two acclimatization days might be necessary to get the body in tune with this magical and extraordinary land.
I'm planning a return trip to India next year, and this time I want to check out what's nice on the way up to Manali. Since the bus rides are really long coming from the plains (Chandigarh or even Delhi), I'm looking for a place to stop along the way (my partner and I). I’ve spotted Kullu, about an hour from Manali, but no matter how much I study the map, I can’t tell if there’s an actual town there. We really don’t want to end up in some isolated hotel that’s only convenient for people traveling with their own transport—definitely not our style. We prefer to drop our bags in a room, freshen up a bit, then wander around streets or alleys with at least a little life.
So, I’m wondering if we’d be better off just skipping Kullu altogether.
What do you think, folks who’ve been there before?
So, I’m wondering if we’d be better off just skipping Kullu altogether.
What do you think, folks who’ve been there before?
Bonjour à toutes et à tous !
Comme je l'expliquais dans un autre post, j'hésite entre l'Inde et le Laos ( rien à voir, je sais !!!! ) pour le mois de novembre ... ( j'ai déjà voyagé et vécu en Asie ... En Indonésie ... Mais je sais que les deux pays cités sont complètement différents )
Côté infos pratiques, il y en a déjà énormément.
Les questions que je me posais plutôt sont les suivantes :
- Faut-il toujours tout négocier avant ? Les taxis et les hôtels, je m'en doute un peu, mais le repas dans les restos ? Faut-il absolument demander les prix en fonction du menu etc ( ce qui serai vite ... épuisant !!!! )
- Dans une ville comme Benares ( par exemple ), peut-on faire 3 pas sans être sollicité ?
- Et qu'en est-il des femmes ? Pourrais-je espérer que mon épouse ne soit pas importunée à tout bout de champ ?
Enfin, une question subsidiaire pour les bédéphiles : que reste-t-il, en 2019, de l'Inde des BD de Dodo et Ben Radis ? 😎
Merci et bonne route !
Bonsoir Bonsoir,
je pars en Inde fin novembre pour un peu plus de trois mois :) ce sera mon deuxième voyage en Asie j'ai déjà été en Thaïlande mais j'ai bien conscience que l'Inde et le Thaïlande sont des pays très différents.
Je me renseigne à fond sur les forums pour trouver un maximum d'informations, et j'essaye aussi surtout de préparer mon budget approximatif pour mon voyage! Au niveau des guest house c'est facile de savoir le montant et de dormir pour pas très cher mais la ou j'ai du mal c'est savoir quels sont les transports à favoriser: par exemple pour aller d'un aéroport à ma guest house c'est mieux si je prends un bus, ou un rickshaw ? Combien coûte une course moyenne en rickshaw car sur pleins de sites il est dit de négocier sa course mais je ne sais même pas les prix de base pour les étrangers...
Sinon pour les longues distances je vais prendre les trains j'ai trouvé comment réserver en ligne à l'avance, mais d'ailleurs est ce que c'est vraiment nécessaire de réserver à l'avance? Les trains fonctionnent bien ou est-ce vraiment chaotique aux niveaux des horaires?
Voilà si quelqu'un est allé en Inde il y a peu de temps et peut m'aider sur les prix des transports, et les transports à favoriser, cela m'aiderait bien, et ce serait très cool de votre part :)
bonne et douce soirée à tout le monde
Eléonore
je pars en Inde fin novembre pour un peu plus de trois mois :) ce sera mon deuxième voyage en Asie j'ai déjà été en Thaïlande mais j'ai bien conscience que l'Inde et le Thaïlande sont des pays très différents.
Je me renseigne à fond sur les forums pour trouver un maximum d'informations, et j'essaye aussi surtout de préparer mon budget approximatif pour mon voyage! Au niveau des guest house c'est facile de savoir le montant et de dormir pour pas très cher mais la ou j'ai du mal c'est savoir quels sont les transports à favoriser: par exemple pour aller d'un aéroport à ma guest house c'est mieux si je prends un bus, ou un rickshaw ? Combien coûte une course moyenne en rickshaw car sur pleins de sites il est dit de négocier sa course mais je ne sais même pas les prix de base pour les étrangers...
Sinon pour les longues distances je vais prendre les trains j'ai trouvé comment réserver en ligne à l'avance, mais d'ailleurs est ce que c'est vraiment nécessaire de réserver à l'avance? Les trains fonctionnent bien ou est-ce vraiment chaotique aux niveaux des horaires?
Voilà si quelqu'un est allé en Inde il y a peu de temps et peut m'aider sur les prix des transports, et les transports à favoriser, cela m'aiderait bien, et ce serait très cool de votre part :)
bonne et douce soirée à tout le monde
Eléonore
Hi everyone,
I’m not sure if this is a good idea... but I’m throwing a message in a bottle out there again...
I’m looking for a hotel in New Delhi for the end of the month (just one night—for a layover). I’m wary of scams on the usual sites. You find all sorts of prices and huge discounts... but reviews on other platforms scream "scam" about those same hotels. Not that I’m not up for adventure, but if I can avoid making an avoidable mistake, I’d rather learn and discover with kind people than through unscrupulous tourist touts. At the same time, maybe this’ll be helpful to others too.
Is a budget of 40 € (+/-) doable? 50 € (+/-)? Does that sound reasonable? What do you think? Your experiences would really help me out. Thanks, friends.
Looking forward to reading your replies.
Warm regards to all
I’m not sure if this is a good idea... but I’m throwing a message in a bottle out there again...
I’m looking for a hotel in New Delhi for the end of the month (just one night—for a layover). I’m wary of scams on the usual sites. You find all sorts of prices and huge discounts... but reviews on other platforms scream "scam" about those same hotels. Not that I’m not up for adventure, but if I can avoid making an avoidable mistake, I’d rather learn and discover with kind people than through unscrupulous tourist touts. At the same time, maybe this’ll be helpful to others too.
Is a budget of 40 € (+/-) doable? 50 € (+/-)? Does that sound reasonable? What do you think? Your experiences would really help me out. Thanks, friends.
Looking forward to reading your replies.
Warm regards to all
Bonjour à tous, avec mon copain nous partons pour 15 jours au KERALA du 31 janvier 2019 au 14 janvier 2020.
J'ai quelques questions sur les moyens de TRANSPORT entre chaque ville, nous avons envie d'éviter les chauffeurs privés ( pour une question de budget et aussi avec l'envie de découvrir les transports publics indiens notamment le train). Quels sont vos conseils pour aller d'une ville à l'autre ? Si quelqu'un a une idée des prix avec un chauffeur privé je suis également interessée. Merci d'avance de vos réponses !
1. KOCHI : 2 JOURS (Arrivée le 1er janvier à 3h du matin, nuit dans un hôtel proche aéroport, puis lendemain et nuit du 1er janvier dans un hôtel à Fort Cochin)
Question : Le moyen le plus rapide et moins cher pour rejoindre Varkala semble être le train, mais réserver un billet depuis la France semble impossible.. Pensez-vous qu'il est possible en arrivant à Kochi d'aller à la gare d'Ernakulam et de pouvoir obtenir un billet de train pour Varkala? J'ai lu des post concernant les billets Taktall ouvert 24h à l'avance, est-ce que cela est facile d'en obtenir ? Je souhaite me rendre en gare le 1er janvier et obtenir un billet pour le lendemain .. J'ai peur qu'un trajet en taxi nous coûte bien trop chez vu la distance Kochi-Varkala ...
2. VARKALA : 4 JOURS
Même question pour Varkala pour rejoindre Munroe Island en passant par la gare de Quilon
3. MUNROE ISLAND : 2 JOURS
Même question concernant le trajet en train, ou peut être existe-t-il des bus ? Je n'ai pas réussi à trouver beaucoup d'informations sur les bus est-ce qu'il faut réserver en avance comme les trains ? Ou bien venir le jour même en gare permet d'obtenir un billet de bus pour le jour même ?
4. ALLEPEY : 1 JOUR
On pense faire la liaison en bus d'Allepey à Munnar, avez-vous une ligne de bus à nous conseiller s'il vous plaît ? Afin d'avoir le trajet le plus rapide possible ?
Ou bien pour ce trajet là prendre un chauffeur est recommandé ? J'ai en effet lu certains post qui décrivaient des chauffeurs de bus un peu fou du volant ... Ou bien des bus avec des vitres teintées ... Avez-vous une idée du prix ?
5. MUNNAR : 3 JOURS
Même question mais avec pour trajet Munnar Kochi.
6. KOCHI : 2 JOURS (départ)
>> On hésitait à remplacer les 2 derniers jours à Kochi par 2 jours à Kumily, j'ai lu de nombreux avis mitigés, qu'en est-il en 2019 ? Si nous y allons c'est pour aller dans une cabane dans les bois et profiter de la nature et non participer à toutes les excursions touristiques proposées..
Merci des réponses que vous allez pouvoir m'apporter afin d'organiser au mieux ce premier voyage en Inde !!
J'ai quelques questions sur les moyens de TRANSPORT entre chaque ville, nous avons envie d'éviter les chauffeurs privés ( pour une question de budget et aussi avec l'envie de découvrir les transports publics indiens notamment le train). Quels sont vos conseils pour aller d'une ville à l'autre ? Si quelqu'un a une idée des prix avec un chauffeur privé je suis également interessée. Merci d'avance de vos réponses !
1. KOCHI : 2 JOURS (Arrivée le 1er janvier à 3h du matin, nuit dans un hôtel proche aéroport, puis lendemain et nuit du 1er janvier dans un hôtel à Fort Cochin)
Question : Le moyen le plus rapide et moins cher pour rejoindre Varkala semble être le train, mais réserver un billet depuis la France semble impossible.. Pensez-vous qu'il est possible en arrivant à Kochi d'aller à la gare d'Ernakulam et de pouvoir obtenir un billet de train pour Varkala? J'ai lu des post concernant les billets Taktall ouvert 24h à l'avance, est-ce que cela est facile d'en obtenir ? Je souhaite me rendre en gare le 1er janvier et obtenir un billet pour le lendemain .. J'ai peur qu'un trajet en taxi nous coûte bien trop chez vu la distance Kochi-Varkala ...
2. VARKALA : 4 JOURS
Même question pour Varkala pour rejoindre Munroe Island en passant par la gare de Quilon
3. MUNROE ISLAND : 2 JOURS
Même question concernant le trajet en train, ou peut être existe-t-il des bus ? Je n'ai pas réussi à trouver beaucoup d'informations sur les bus est-ce qu'il faut réserver en avance comme les trains ? Ou bien venir le jour même en gare permet d'obtenir un billet de bus pour le jour même ?
4. ALLEPEY : 1 JOUR
On pense faire la liaison en bus d'Allepey à Munnar, avez-vous une ligne de bus à nous conseiller s'il vous plaît ? Afin d'avoir le trajet le plus rapide possible ?
Ou bien pour ce trajet là prendre un chauffeur est recommandé ? J'ai en effet lu certains post qui décrivaient des chauffeurs de bus un peu fou du volant ... Ou bien des bus avec des vitres teintées ... Avez-vous une idée du prix ?
5. MUNNAR : 3 JOURS
Même question mais avec pour trajet Munnar Kochi.
6. KOCHI : 2 JOURS (départ)
>> On hésitait à remplacer les 2 derniers jours à Kochi par 2 jours à Kumily, j'ai lu de nombreux avis mitigés, qu'en est-il en 2019 ? Si nous y allons c'est pour aller dans une cabane dans les bois et profiter de la nature et non participer à toutes les excursions touristiques proposées..
Merci des réponses que vous allez pouvoir m'apporter afin d'organiser au mieux ce premier voyage en Inde !!
Bonjour à tous,
Je vais arriver le matin du 04 janvier à Mahabalipuram (Mamallapuram), pour mon premier jour en Inde du Sud. Je voyage seul, en sac à dos, avec un petit budget...
Pensez-vous qu'il soit nécessaire de réserver une chambre pour la nuit ? Ou est-ce facile de trouver directement sur place ?
Merci pour vos réponses,
Je vais arriver le matin du 04 janvier à Mahabalipuram (Mamallapuram), pour mon premier jour en Inde du Sud. Je voyage seul, en sac à dos, avec un petit budget...
Pensez-vous qu'il soit nécessaire de réserver une chambre pour la nuit ? Ou est-ce facile de trouver directement sur place ?
Merci pour vos réponses,
Hello everyone,
Here’s a little recap of our 3-week trip to India (retired couple) in January 2024. This is our personal experience and how we felt at the time. This is the 7th time we’ve been to India, and after experiencing public transport day and night—and with age catching up—we opted for a more "chill" pace this time, prioritizing flights and taxis while slightly increasing our accommodation budget. Regarding that accommodation budget (double room), we chose a range between 30 and 40 €, and we didn’t really notice much difference compared to the lower range we used to book on previous trips (between 20 and 30 €). But prices have likely gone up since my last visit in 2018.
So here are some personal tips and opinions, good addresses, and others to avoid. Exchange rate: In January 2024, 100 rupees were worth about 1.12 euros (1 euro = 89 INR at exchange bureaus). To convert rupees to euros: X rupees divided by 89 = X euros. For simplicity, we divided the price in rupees by 100 and added about 10% to get the equivalent in euros.
Our itinerary: Mumbai/Aurangabad (Ellora and Ajanta) / Badami / Hampi / Goa (Agonda) / Mumbai Flight: With British Airways—very (too) short layover in London (2 hours in theory...) for the connection to Mumbai, but a 1-hour delay on the flight from CDG, so we had to rush in London with two shuttles to take and security to clear before reaching the departure gate. We had a 15-minute margin by speeding... same stress on the way back...
Mumbai: On the day we arrived in Mumbai, we took a flight to Aurangabad with Indigo. **Note:** Terminal change for this flight. Free buses connect T2 to T1. The flight was fine, even with a 2-hour delay...
Aurangabad: Accommodation: Hotel JP International (35 €/night): Large, "decorated" room with comfortable bedding. But the hotel is showing its age. The air conditioning is a bit noisy, and the faucets and shower have seen better days... Breakfast is included in the price with a buffet—it’s decent. You just have to ask for toast, jam, and eggs, as it’s mostly an Indian buffet... The rooftop restaurant is okay. The hotel is a bit pricey for what it is... The owner, a bit gruff at first, was helpful and assisted us with taxis for visiting the Ellora and Ajanta sites, as it’s hard to find taxis for those trips on the street—no travel agencies in this area. Restaurant: Le Great Sagar (on the main street): Close to the hotel, good food, and plenty of choices. Exchange: We struggled to exchange euros in Aurangabad. No banks exchange money (we tried five...). Only Thomas Cook does: Jalna Road near the Ramgiri Hotel.
Ellora: A magnificent site 25 km from Aurangabad. **Tip:** Arrive early (by 9 AM max) and visit the Kailasha Temple first—it’s the world’s largest monolithic structure—and it gets much busier later.
Ajanta: About a 2-hour drive. **Great tip for this visit:** Ask your taxi to drop you off at the Ajanta View Point. Not only do you get a beautiful overview of the cliff and caves, but you can also walk down gently to the site. The descent is easy with stairs and paths, and you approach the site with stunning views. Cross the bridge, and you’re there (start from the end, as it’s less crowded: after crossing the bridge and paying at the ticket counter, turn left and go to the far end to begin your visit). The taxi waited for us at the "official" entrance after we finished exploring the caves.
Badami: To get to Badami, we took an early-morning flight from Aurangabad to Hubli with Indigo (scheduled takeoff at 6:20 AM...) to arrive in Hubli in the early afternoon and find a taxi to Badami. We found a taxi quickly at Hubli Airport. About 2.5 hours (3,400 INR). Hotel: KSTDC Hotel Mayura Chalukya (38 €/night): A state-run hotel that’s a bit dated, located 15 minutes from the center but quiet compared to the chaotic main street in Badami. Large room, a bit dark, slightly worn walls, rustic bathroom... The air conditioning is very noisy. The owner was very friendly and helped with transport. The staff was also very nice. The hotel restaurant is decent, which saves you from going back "into town." A bit pricey for the quality, but it’s peaceful... The visit to the sculpted caves is worth it, as is a walk around the lake. The short climb to the top of the hill from the museum is also worth it—you pass through small gorges. A relaxing atmosphere in these places.
Hampi: Trip from Badami to Hampi by taxi (3,500 INR) – 3 hours. Booked through the Badami hotel, as we couldn’t find taxis on the street or at reasonable prices... Accommodation: Thilak Home Stay (33 €/night): Located in Hampi Bazaar, a small guesthouse with 4 rooms. Simple room with two single beds and a nightstand. The owner was very helpful, making our stay easier with services like tuk-tuks for sightseeing, laundry, bus booking to Goa, and a tuk-tuk to Hospet. A bit pricey for the room quality, but recommended for the owner’s kindness. It was hard to find accommodation in Hampi Bazaar through booking platforms, as they all offer places outside the city, several kilometers away—which is a shame. But we realized you can find places directly on-site. **You must stay in Hampi Bazaar**—the atmosphere changes from morning to night (in the evening, around 9 PM, go into the courtyard of the main temple in Hampi Bazaar, which turns into a huge dormitory—it’s impressive...). Restaurant: Archana Roof Restaurant: Small restaurant on the 1st floor overlooking a banana field with the Hampi rocks in the background. Very friendly welcome, quiet, and excellent thalis. The Hampi site is in a magical natural setting among temples, pilgrims, ochre rocks, and rice fields. We did a one-day circuit with a tuk-tuk to visit the main sites (1,500 INR). We also rented a scooter on the other side of the river (to avoid a long detour from Hampi Bazaar) for a day trip around the area. Some places we visited: Anegondi village, Durga Temple, Hanuman Temple (go early—it’s a climb...), Sanapur Lake. The accommodations on the other side of the river, called "Hippie Island," have been completely destroyed.
Goa (Agonda Beach): Trip from Hampi to Agonda: Booked a sleeper bus with two beds! (1,300 INR/person). Departure at 9 PM from Hospet, theoretical arrival at 4 AM (for us, it was 6 AM) in Canacona, then a 20-minute tuk-tuk ride to Agonda. Comfortable bus with real berths, but the many speed bumps made sleep difficult... The train would have been much longer and more complicated to reach Agonda.
Agonda: Accommodation: New Common Home (35 €/night): Business-like welcome. Decent and fairly large room, rustic bathroom. Breakfast included in the price—it was okay. We only booked one night to choose accommodation afterward, right on the beach. But we didn’t account for the Indian national holiday at the end of the week—everything was fully booked... We found Saxony (44 €/night) at the far end of the beach (left when facing the sea), but only for 2 nights—after that, it was reserved... Decent room, average bathroom, but a beautiful terrace facing the sea. Then 2 nights at Agonda Holiday Home Stay (36 €/night), not on the beach: Very average, bathroom in poor condition, almost no view—but it was all that was left... Restaurant: The Rhino for dinner (not on the beach): Excellent tandoori, chicken tikka, and masala. Great value for money. Cool and friendly atmosphere. Agonda is a beautiful, long, quiet, and family-friendly beach for relaxing, with lovely walks to take. Beautiful sunset!
Mumbai: Trip from Agonda to Mumbai: Flight: We chose Vistara because the departure was in the late afternoon, while Indigo offered flights very early or very late. Bad choice... because this Vistara flight leaves from Mopa Airport, at the very north of Goa state. And from Agonda, it’s a 3-hour taxi ride... (3,700 INR...) **Always check which airport your flight leaves from to reach Mumbai!**
Mumbai: Accommodation: Broadway Hotel Bombay (39 €/night): Very well-located hotel in Colaba, on a street perpendicular to the busy main road. Ask for quiet rooms... Friendly, helpful, and accommodating staff. Very small room with a tiny window and little space to put bags or move around... Small but clean bathroom. Mumbai is expensive for accommodation, and cleanliness often leaves something to be desired... Restaurant: Delhi Darbar, very close to the hotel on the main street. Good, clean, not too noisy... and good value for money. Sightseeing: Mumbai is a bustling city, but the traffic is completely chaotic, and the horn often replaces the brake... The architecture is quite unique and worth a look, with some must-see visits: Crawford Market and its surroundings... Null Bazar and Chor Bazar, where poverty and dirt are quite present... Mani Bhavan: Gandhi’s house in Mumbai, with a very special atmosphere... Balbunath Temple, with its religious fervor. The beautiful Jain temple (Walkeshwar Mandir), where the atmosphere is very different from other temples and full of serenity. The Dhobi Ghats, the laundry district—very impressive. For a few hundred rupees, a "guide" will take you through these washhouses and thousands of clothes. Banganga Tank: A basin surrounded by ghats with a village-like (but quite poor) atmosphere, where Indians come to pray. The dabbawallahs: Their departure around 11 AM and the transport by bicycle of hundreds of lunchboxes from Churchgate Station. **Note:** It’s not easy to find them—we almost missed them, as it seems to be disappearing. They’re on the other side of the road where taxis usually drop you off for Churchgate Station, under some trees. They’re recognizable by their white attire and a crowd. Few passersby seemed to know about them... All these visits can be done easily by taking taxis, which are really cheap—**as long as they agree to use the meter.**
So here are some great tips to share, knowing that every trip is unique, and India remains a magnificent, often disconcerting, elusive country that challenges you. It’s unlike any other country we’ve visited but so fascinating... Good luck with your preparations, and if you need more info, don’t hesitate! I really regret that the new 2024/2025 South India GDR only includes Mumbai for Maharashtra and nothing else... and nothing on Karnataka or Goa. These states don’t seem to be selling points for the GDR anymore... Guy
Here’s a little recap of our 3-week trip to India (retired couple) in January 2024. This is our personal experience and how we felt at the time. This is the 7th time we’ve been to India, and after experiencing public transport day and night—and with age catching up—we opted for a more "chill" pace this time, prioritizing flights and taxis while slightly increasing our accommodation budget. Regarding that accommodation budget (double room), we chose a range between 30 and 40 €, and we didn’t really notice much difference compared to the lower range we used to book on previous trips (between 20 and 30 €). But prices have likely gone up since my last visit in 2018.
So here are some personal tips and opinions, good addresses, and others to avoid. Exchange rate: In January 2024, 100 rupees were worth about 1.12 euros (1 euro = 89 INR at exchange bureaus). To convert rupees to euros: X rupees divided by 89 = X euros. For simplicity, we divided the price in rupees by 100 and added about 10% to get the equivalent in euros.
Our itinerary: Mumbai/Aurangabad (Ellora and Ajanta) / Badami / Hampi / Goa (Agonda) / Mumbai Flight: With British Airways—very (too) short layover in London (2 hours in theory...) for the connection to Mumbai, but a 1-hour delay on the flight from CDG, so we had to rush in London with two shuttles to take and security to clear before reaching the departure gate. We had a 15-minute margin by speeding... same stress on the way back...
Mumbai: On the day we arrived in Mumbai, we took a flight to Aurangabad with Indigo. **Note:** Terminal change for this flight. Free buses connect T2 to T1. The flight was fine, even with a 2-hour delay...
Aurangabad: Accommodation: Hotel JP International (35 €/night): Large, "decorated" room with comfortable bedding. But the hotel is showing its age. The air conditioning is a bit noisy, and the faucets and shower have seen better days... Breakfast is included in the price with a buffet—it’s decent. You just have to ask for toast, jam, and eggs, as it’s mostly an Indian buffet... The rooftop restaurant is okay. The hotel is a bit pricey for what it is... The owner, a bit gruff at first, was helpful and assisted us with taxis for visiting the Ellora and Ajanta sites, as it’s hard to find taxis for those trips on the street—no travel agencies in this area. Restaurant: Le Great Sagar (on the main street): Close to the hotel, good food, and plenty of choices. Exchange: We struggled to exchange euros in Aurangabad. No banks exchange money (we tried five...). Only Thomas Cook does: Jalna Road near the Ramgiri Hotel.
Ellora: A magnificent site 25 km from Aurangabad. **Tip:** Arrive early (by 9 AM max) and visit the Kailasha Temple first—it’s the world’s largest monolithic structure—and it gets much busier later.
Ajanta: About a 2-hour drive. **Great tip for this visit:** Ask your taxi to drop you off at the Ajanta View Point. Not only do you get a beautiful overview of the cliff and caves, but you can also walk down gently to the site. The descent is easy with stairs and paths, and you approach the site with stunning views. Cross the bridge, and you’re there (start from the end, as it’s less crowded: after crossing the bridge and paying at the ticket counter, turn left and go to the far end to begin your visit). The taxi waited for us at the "official" entrance after we finished exploring the caves.
Badami: To get to Badami, we took an early-morning flight from Aurangabad to Hubli with Indigo (scheduled takeoff at 6:20 AM...) to arrive in Hubli in the early afternoon and find a taxi to Badami. We found a taxi quickly at Hubli Airport. About 2.5 hours (3,400 INR). Hotel: KSTDC Hotel Mayura Chalukya (38 €/night): A state-run hotel that’s a bit dated, located 15 minutes from the center but quiet compared to the chaotic main street in Badami. Large room, a bit dark, slightly worn walls, rustic bathroom... The air conditioning is very noisy. The owner was very friendly and helped with transport. The staff was also very nice. The hotel restaurant is decent, which saves you from going back "into town." A bit pricey for the quality, but it’s peaceful... The visit to the sculpted caves is worth it, as is a walk around the lake. The short climb to the top of the hill from the museum is also worth it—you pass through small gorges. A relaxing atmosphere in these places.
Hampi: Trip from Badami to Hampi by taxi (3,500 INR) – 3 hours. Booked through the Badami hotel, as we couldn’t find taxis on the street or at reasonable prices... Accommodation: Thilak Home Stay (33 €/night): Located in Hampi Bazaar, a small guesthouse with 4 rooms. Simple room with two single beds and a nightstand. The owner was very helpful, making our stay easier with services like tuk-tuks for sightseeing, laundry, bus booking to Goa, and a tuk-tuk to Hospet. A bit pricey for the room quality, but recommended for the owner’s kindness. It was hard to find accommodation in Hampi Bazaar through booking platforms, as they all offer places outside the city, several kilometers away—which is a shame. But we realized you can find places directly on-site. **You must stay in Hampi Bazaar**—the atmosphere changes from morning to night (in the evening, around 9 PM, go into the courtyard of the main temple in Hampi Bazaar, which turns into a huge dormitory—it’s impressive...). Restaurant: Archana Roof Restaurant: Small restaurant on the 1st floor overlooking a banana field with the Hampi rocks in the background. Very friendly welcome, quiet, and excellent thalis. The Hampi site is in a magical natural setting among temples, pilgrims, ochre rocks, and rice fields. We did a one-day circuit with a tuk-tuk to visit the main sites (1,500 INR). We also rented a scooter on the other side of the river (to avoid a long detour from Hampi Bazaar) for a day trip around the area. Some places we visited: Anegondi village, Durga Temple, Hanuman Temple (go early—it’s a climb...), Sanapur Lake. The accommodations on the other side of the river, called "Hippie Island," have been completely destroyed.
Goa (Agonda Beach): Trip from Hampi to Agonda: Booked a sleeper bus with two beds! (1,300 INR/person). Departure at 9 PM from Hospet, theoretical arrival at 4 AM (for us, it was 6 AM) in Canacona, then a 20-minute tuk-tuk ride to Agonda. Comfortable bus with real berths, but the many speed bumps made sleep difficult... The train would have been much longer and more complicated to reach Agonda.
Agonda: Accommodation: New Common Home (35 €/night): Business-like welcome. Decent and fairly large room, rustic bathroom. Breakfast included in the price—it was okay. We only booked one night to choose accommodation afterward, right on the beach. But we didn’t account for the Indian national holiday at the end of the week—everything was fully booked... We found Saxony (44 €/night) at the far end of the beach (left when facing the sea), but only for 2 nights—after that, it was reserved... Decent room, average bathroom, but a beautiful terrace facing the sea. Then 2 nights at Agonda Holiday Home Stay (36 €/night), not on the beach: Very average, bathroom in poor condition, almost no view—but it was all that was left... Restaurant: The Rhino for dinner (not on the beach): Excellent tandoori, chicken tikka, and masala. Great value for money. Cool and friendly atmosphere. Agonda is a beautiful, long, quiet, and family-friendly beach for relaxing, with lovely walks to take. Beautiful sunset!
Mumbai: Trip from Agonda to Mumbai: Flight: We chose Vistara because the departure was in the late afternoon, while Indigo offered flights very early or very late. Bad choice... because this Vistara flight leaves from Mopa Airport, at the very north of Goa state. And from Agonda, it’s a 3-hour taxi ride... (3,700 INR...) **Always check which airport your flight leaves from to reach Mumbai!**
Mumbai: Accommodation: Broadway Hotel Bombay (39 €/night): Very well-located hotel in Colaba, on a street perpendicular to the busy main road. Ask for quiet rooms... Friendly, helpful, and accommodating staff. Very small room with a tiny window and little space to put bags or move around... Small but clean bathroom. Mumbai is expensive for accommodation, and cleanliness often leaves something to be desired... Restaurant: Delhi Darbar, very close to the hotel on the main street. Good, clean, not too noisy... and good value for money. Sightseeing: Mumbai is a bustling city, but the traffic is completely chaotic, and the horn often replaces the brake... The architecture is quite unique and worth a look, with some must-see visits: Crawford Market and its surroundings... Null Bazar and Chor Bazar, where poverty and dirt are quite present... Mani Bhavan: Gandhi’s house in Mumbai, with a very special atmosphere... Balbunath Temple, with its religious fervor. The beautiful Jain temple (Walkeshwar Mandir), where the atmosphere is very different from other temples and full of serenity. The Dhobi Ghats, the laundry district—very impressive. For a few hundred rupees, a "guide" will take you through these washhouses and thousands of clothes. Banganga Tank: A basin surrounded by ghats with a village-like (but quite poor) atmosphere, where Indians come to pray. The dabbawallahs: Their departure around 11 AM and the transport by bicycle of hundreds of lunchboxes from Churchgate Station. **Note:** It’s not easy to find them—we almost missed them, as it seems to be disappearing. They’re on the other side of the road where taxis usually drop you off for Churchgate Station, under some trees. They’re recognizable by their white attire and a crowd. Few passersby seemed to know about them... All these visits can be done easily by taking taxis, which are really cheap—**as long as they agree to use the meter.**
So here are some great tips to share, knowing that every trip is unique, and India remains a magnificent, often disconcerting, elusive country that challenges you. It’s unlike any other country we’ve visited but so fascinating... Good luck with your preparations, and if you need more info, don’t hesitate! I really regret that the new 2024/2025 South India GDR only includes Mumbai for Maharashtra and nothing else... and nothing on Karnataka or Goa. These states don’t seem to be selling points for the GDR anymore... Guy
aratBonjour, je suis a la recherche d'une agence réceptive sérieuse bon rapport qualité/prix pour circuit 15/20 jours Gujarat guide francophone, petite extension Mont Abu tout près, arrivée et retour Ahmedabadh via Delhi, merci.
bonjour
je projette un voyage pour inde du nord
je recherche un chauffeur/ guide pour un départ depuis New Delhi
Si vous avez des numéros de téléphone, adresse mail ??
merci
Bonjour, depuis ma dernière visite en 2006 à Kolkata, les prix semblent avoir fait un sacré bond... Quelqu'un aurait il un plan sympa du côté de Scudder Street? Dans les 1000 max en chambre simple... La salvation Army gh est devenue ruineuse... Un homestay ? Merci
Hello everyone,
We’re a couple heading off in mid-October for 7 weeks to explore Rajasthan independently, with an extension to Varanasi.
We’re growing more skeptical about Booking.com reviews and would rather turn to fellow travelers for up-to-date recommendations on accommodations along our route. We’re looking for clean places—not necessarily luxurious—a good location preferably, and if there’s a special charm or character, even better. Budget-wise, up to 50 €, or more if needed. We’ve already gathered a few addresses from Solene and Aleph’s travel journals.
Here are our stops—we’ve already got a place for the starred cities but are still open to suggestions:
Delhi Airport*
Alwar
Bharatpur*
Mathura
Agra*
Dholpur
Karauli
Dausa*
Jaipur*
Bundi*
Kota
Udaipur*
Pushkar
Jodhpur
Barmer
Jaisalmer
Phalodi
Bikaner
Nawalgarh*
Varanasi
Central Delhi
Thanks for sharing your tips and favorites!
Hello there!
Any hotel or guesthouse you’d recommend in Pondicherry?
Arriving on October 5th for up to 15 days.
Hello,
We’d love some tips and suggestions for a trip to India we’re planning for February 2026:
We’re a couple in our 70s based in Canada (Montreal), and we’re planning a 3-week trip to India in February 2025.
We’re looking for a moderate pace, with comfortable but authentic and immersive accommodations, and good service.
Ideally:
Northern India (Delhi, Agra, Jaipur, Udaipur, Ranthambore) Southern India (Kerala): Cochin, backwaters (cruise), Munnar
Charming or traditional lodgings (haveli, guesthouse, small hotels), comfortable without being luxurious.
Travel by train where possible, and with a private driver for the rest, plus likely a domestic flight.
What do you think?
We’d love some tips and suggestions for a trip to India we’re planning for February 2026:
We’re a couple in our 70s based in Canada (Montreal), and we’re planning a 3-week trip to India in February 2025.
We’re looking for a moderate pace, with comfortable but authentic and immersive accommodations, and good service.
Ideally:
Northern India (Delhi, Agra, Jaipur, Udaipur, Ranthambore) Southern India (Kerala): Cochin, backwaters (cruise), Munnar
Charming or traditional lodgings (haveli, guesthouse, small hotels), comfortable without being luxurious.
Travel by train where possible, and with a private driver for the rest, plus likely a domestic flight.
What do you think?
Bonjour,
Je compte passer 3 jours à Rameswaram la semaine prochaine.
Il va y faire très chaud j'imagine. Je ne trouve pas d'hotel avec piscine bien recommandé dans l'ile. Je ne vois que le Hyat, mais bof...
Par contre, il y en a juste avant le pont , la zone a l'air balnéaire. Est ce que quelqu'un qui connait peut me dire si c est jouable de loger là et de faire une simple excursion dans l'ile ? Peut être en louant un scooter ? Ou bien faut il vraiment loger dans l ile ?
Merci d avance
bonjour..nous désirons aller en Inde au GUJARATH en novembre 2019. Il y a eu un cyclone (?) important en juin2019. Peut on raisonnablement aller dans cette région depuis Mumbay ?
Bonjour,
Je prépare mon Xème voyage, (pour janvier/février/mars dans le sud de l'Inde) et comme d'habitude, je cherche entre autre les hotels sur Tripadvisor. Et là depuis 1 mois et demi que je regarde, je suis confrontée pour la 1ère fois à une flambée des prix inimaginable qui m'inquiète un peu. Genre une nuit à 300 ou 400 euros au lieu 25 en temps normal. Je n'ai jamais vu ça sur aucune destination !
La 1ère fois, je me suis dit que c'était un bug du site, mais je vois que cela persiste ! Et même dans les terres, pas seulement en bord de mer.
Est ce que je dois m'inquiéter ? Je ne voudrais pas réserver dans des bouibouis : seuls hotels qui restent abordables dans beaucoup de villes.
Faut-il vraiment réserver pour cette période ?
Merci de votre aide !
nous souhaiterions visiter le rajasthan palais désert en voyage organisé qui connait une excellente agence locale ou française à nous conseiller ?
MERCI
Hi,
I’m leaving this Saturday for Northern India from 15/02 to 27/02. I’m planning to visit New Delhi, Agra, Chand Baori, Jaipur, Ranthambore, Bundi, Udaipur, and Jodhpur.
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
What’s the best way to get around? I was thinking of doing everything by train. Maybe taking the bus for some stretches?
As for renting a car with a driver, it seems expensive, so I’ve pretty much ruled that out. Unless someone’s got space for the same dates?
Thanks for your insights!
Hello,
We’re a group of 4 looking for a driver and car for our stay in Kerala from November 22 to December 12, 2025. We’ve already planned an itinerary starting from Cochin.
We’ve traveled with a driver before during our trip to Rajasthan.
Thanks for your replies!
Yves
Hi there.
We’re heading to India at the end of December for a month.
I planned an itinerary: Delhi, Nawalgarh, Sikar, Jodhpur, Udaipur, Chittaurgarh, Bundi, Jaipur, Bharatpur, and back to Delhi.
Our driver told us it’s not possible because there are no roads.
He’s suggesting the usual tourist circuit, which we don’t want to do.
What do you think of my route?
Any tips?
Thanks, community!
Hi fellow travelers!
I arrive in New Delhi on January 5th, and this is the third time I’ve come across what turns out to be a scam (after some research outside of booking.com): dirty places, fake reviews, etc.
So I’m starting to distrust booking.com because it really doesn’t seem like a reliable site (at least when it comes to booking hotels in New Delhi).
If you have a good place to stay (max 1500 € per night, and I don’t want a dorm) in New Delhi, I’d love to hear about it! :)
Looking forward to your replies!
If you have a good place to stay (max 1500 € per night, and I don’t want a dorm) in New Delhi, I’d love to hear about it! :)
Looking forward to your replies!
Hi there,
I’ve got a few questions about my upcoming 3.5-week trip to Tamil Nadu and Kerala (January 2025).
On the itinerary, we’re supposed to spend 3 or 4 days in Thanjavur (Tanjore). I thought the location would let us explore the surrounding area, but I’m realizing everything I want to see won’t fit into the schedule! I’d planned: 1 day to arrive from Pondicherry 1 day to go to Darasuram 1 day to go to Tiruchirappalli 1 day to head to Madurai with a stop in Chettinad Basically, we won’t see anything of Thanjavur itself! Should I skip one of the destinations?
In Kerala, after 3 days in Munnar, I’ve planned to spend a few days in Munroe Island since I didn’t get great feedback about Alleppey. I wanted to "wander" through the backwaters. Has anyone been there?
Finally, we’re ending the trip in Cherai. After booking, I realized the beaches seemed unusable (trash, rough sea...) and I’m pretty frustrated about not being able to swim. Unless there’s a better spot nearby?
Thanks for your input!
I’ve got a few questions about my upcoming 3.5-week trip to Tamil Nadu and Kerala (January 2025).
On the itinerary, we’re supposed to spend 3 or 4 days in Thanjavur (Tanjore). I thought the location would let us explore the surrounding area, but I’m realizing everything I want to see won’t fit into the schedule! I’d planned: 1 day to arrive from Pondicherry 1 day to go to Darasuram 1 day to go to Tiruchirappalli 1 day to head to Madurai with a stop in Chettinad Basically, we won’t see anything of Thanjavur itself! Should I skip one of the destinations?
In Kerala, after 3 days in Munnar, I’ve planned to spend a few days in Munroe Island since I didn’t get great feedback about Alleppey. I wanted to "wander" through the backwaters. Has anyone been there?
Finally, we’re ending the trip in Cherai. After booking, I realized the beaches seemed unusable (trash, rough sea...) and I’m pretty frustrated about not being able to swim. Unless there’s a better spot nearby?
Thanks for your input!
Bonjour à tous,
Cela fait longtemps que je lorgne du côté de l'Inde mais je ne me suis jamais senti prêt ... mais là ce serait peut-être le moment.😊 Après avoir hésité entre le Radjastan et l'Inde du Sud c'est finalement le centre qui a retenu mon attention. Je l'imagine moins touristique et je suis tombé sur des photos d'Ellora qui m'ont énormément plu 🙂.
En cherchant j'ai trouvé un axe, une logique: faire Mumbay - Delhi, avec de multiples arrêts.
Voici ce que cela donnerait, j'ai mis en gras les lieux qui m'inspirent le plus. Mumbay Ellora Ajanta Mandleshwar mandu Sanchi Khajuraho Panna NP pour faire un safari ... avec l'espoir de croiser un tigre Orchhad Gwalior Agra New Delhi (plus pour rejoindre un aéroport international)
Qu'en pensez-vous ? Je dispose de 13/14 jours max. J'aurais bien aimé glisser quelques trajets en train, entre quelles étapes est-ce possible? intéressant ?
Au niveau climat: Octobre, février ou Avril selon vous ?
Comme je ne connais pas du tout, tout autre conseil, renseignement sera le bienvenu
Merci d'avance Max
Cela fait longtemps que je lorgne du côté de l'Inde mais je ne me suis jamais senti prêt ... mais là ce serait peut-être le moment.😊 Après avoir hésité entre le Radjastan et l'Inde du Sud c'est finalement le centre qui a retenu mon attention. Je l'imagine moins touristique et je suis tombé sur des photos d'Ellora qui m'ont énormément plu 🙂.
En cherchant j'ai trouvé un axe, une logique: faire Mumbay - Delhi, avec de multiples arrêts.
Voici ce que cela donnerait, j'ai mis en gras les lieux qui m'inspirent le plus. Mumbay Ellora Ajanta Mandleshwar mandu Sanchi Khajuraho Panna NP pour faire un safari ... avec l'espoir de croiser un tigre Orchhad Gwalior Agra New Delhi (plus pour rejoindre un aéroport international)
Qu'en pensez-vous ? Je dispose de 13/14 jours max. J'aurais bien aimé glisser quelques trajets en train, entre quelles étapes est-ce possible? intéressant ?
Au niveau climat: Octobre, février ou Avril selon vous ?
Comme je ne connais pas du tout, tout autre conseil, renseignement sera le bienvenu
Merci d'avance Max
Bonjour à tous,
Je vais partir en mars dans le Tamil Nadu, j'y resterai 16 jours. peut-être 17.
Pouvez m'aidez sachant que le critère numéro 1 n'est pas de faire la course. ce qui m'oblige à faire des choix entre les merveilleux sites... j'aime aussi visiter les villes, me perdre dans les rues, ...
ITINERAIRE:
CHENAI le 15/03 : arrivée à 2 h du matin et départ le soir même : bus de nuit direction Madurai
- MADURAI le 16/03 matin - départ le 20 matin - KODAIKANNAL le 20/03 fin milieu d'après midi - départ le 24 - THANJAVUR Entre le 24 et le 28 visite de Tirichirapalli / Tajore /Kumbakonam est il possible de voir traquillement ces sites en si peu de jours? je préfère voir que 2 sites et prendre mon temps que voir tout et bâcler les visites... dans quelle ville séjourner ? Thanjavur ou trichy? le choix de ces sites est il un bon choix ou il y a mieux? le site de mahabalipuram m'a l'air pas mal non plus. - FIN DU VOYAGE A PONDICHERY le 28 /03 et retour le 01/04 (avion le soir à Chenai)- envie de flâner à Pudu.... ou peut être le retour le 02/04 le soir
QUESTION Quel est le tarif moyen d'entrée de ces sites?
Merci de votre aide. Sibylle
Je vais partir en mars dans le Tamil Nadu, j'y resterai 16 jours. peut-être 17.
Pouvez m'aidez sachant que le critère numéro 1 n'est pas de faire la course. ce qui m'oblige à faire des choix entre les merveilleux sites... j'aime aussi visiter les villes, me perdre dans les rues, ...
ITINERAIRE:
CHENAI le 15/03 : arrivée à 2 h du matin et départ le soir même : bus de nuit direction Madurai
- MADURAI le 16/03 matin - départ le 20 matin - KODAIKANNAL le 20/03 fin milieu d'après midi - départ le 24 - THANJAVUR Entre le 24 et le 28 visite de Tirichirapalli / Tajore /Kumbakonam est il possible de voir traquillement ces sites en si peu de jours? je préfère voir que 2 sites et prendre mon temps que voir tout et bâcler les visites... dans quelle ville séjourner ? Thanjavur ou trichy? le choix de ces sites est il un bon choix ou il y a mieux? le site de mahabalipuram m'a l'air pas mal non plus. - FIN DU VOYAGE A PONDICHERY le 28 /03 et retour le 01/04 (avion le soir à Chenai)- envie de flâner à Pudu.... ou peut être le retour le 02/04 le soir
QUESTION Quel est le tarif moyen d'entrée de ces sites?
Merci de votre aide. Sibylle
Comme promis voici le retour des 10 jours passés dans le Telangana et l'Andhra Pradesh.
Hyderabad 1er jour. Partis de Mysore à 14h50 , nous arrivons à Hyderabad à 5h50 . Comme tous les trains que nous aurons pris celui a été à l'heure à 20 minutes près. J'ai hâte de découvrir cette région. La gare est très propre et bien sûr très animée. On cherche le comptoir des autoricshaws prepaid, qui se trouve à gauche en sortant de la gare. Des chauffeurs nous proposent la course a 50 r quel que soit l'hôtel, un autre 20 r si on va dans le sien. Non, on veut le prepaid. On nous indique le comptoir, fermé à cette heure ci. Je ne sais pas à quelle heure il ouvre. Un jeune homme demande si on a besoin d'aide. Il cherche notre hôtel, le Geetanjani, quartier Habid, sur son portable et traduit a un chauffeur l'adresse exacte. Merci. J'avais lu que les gens sont particulièrement sympas et aidants à Hyderabad. J'ai bien une carte SIm indienne dans mon portable mais pas de connexion internet. En plus Je n'arrive pas à l'utiliser ici. Elle m'a été donnée à Pondicherry. Habids road est immense. Notre hôtel est dans une impasse donnant sur une rue perpendiculaire. Nous serons plus au calme. Enfin c'est ce que nous croyons jusqu'à ce qu'on voit la chambre qui donne sur une carrière. Nous pensons nous accommoder du bruit des burins, nous regardons les gars tailler les pierres, encore une fois les conditions de travail nous effarent. Zéro protection dans ces nuages de poussières, les projections des éclats de pierre. Quand les machines outils se mettent en marche nous demandons à changer de chambre. De celle d'en face nous n'entendons plus rien.
Chambre a 1000 r la nuit. Très confortable et propre. Literie super. Pas de supplément pour le early check in nous marmonne le gars bougon de l'accueil mal réveillé. J'ai rdv dans la matinée avec une jeune expat qui travaille avec des associations locales. Nous passons la journée ensemble et rencontrons des gens formidables. Le midi elle nous emmène dans un resto goûter le fameux Hyderabad biryani. Il paraît que ce sont les meilleurs de toute l'Inde. Mon ami se régale, moi qui ne supporte pas les épices, je ne prends qu'un aloo paratha. Le traffic est intense le matin entre 9h et 11h, et l'a.midi à partir de 16h. Nous rentrons dans les embouteillages, ce qui nous donne tout le temps de bien observer la vie dans les rues, et de laisser décanter toutes les émotions de cette journée, de ces rencontres. Cette ville nous plait, bien qu'elle soit fatigante. Je trouve que ça klaxonne un peu moins qu'ailleurs.Je ressens un peu la même chose qu'à ma première arrivée à Ahmedabad. Le contact avec les gens est facile, agréable, ils sont particulièrement aidants, nous ne sommes pas sollicités, sauf par les chauffeurs et encore, ils insistent peu. Demain nous visitons Fort Golgonde.
Hyderabad 1er jour. Partis de Mysore à 14h50 , nous arrivons à Hyderabad à 5h50 . Comme tous les trains que nous aurons pris celui a été à l'heure à 20 minutes près. J'ai hâte de découvrir cette région. La gare est très propre et bien sûr très animée. On cherche le comptoir des autoricshaws prepaid, qui se trouve à gauche en sortant de la gare. Des chauffeurs nous proposent la course a 50 r quel que soit l'hôtel, un autre 20 r si on va dans le sien. Non, on veut le prepaid. On nous indique le comptoir, fermé à cette heure ci. Je ne sais pas à quelle heure il ouvre. Un jeune homme demande si on a besoin d'aide. Il cherche notre hôtel, le Geetanjani, quartier Habid, sur son portable et traduit a un chauffeur l'adresse exacte. Merci. J'avais lu que les gens sont particulièrement sympas et aidants à Hyderabad. J'ai bien une carte SIm indienne dans mon portable mais pas de connexion internet. En plus Je n'arrive pas à l'utiliser ici. Elle m'a été donnée à Pondicherry. Habids road est immense. Notre hôtel est dans une impasse donnant sur une rue perpendiculaire. Nous serons plus au calme. Enfin c'est ce que nous croyons jusqu'à ce qu'on voit la chambre qui donne sur une carrière. Nous pensons nous accommoder du bruit des burins, nous regardons les gars tailler les pierres, encore une fois les conditions de travail nous effarent. Zéro protection dans ces nuages de poussières, les projections des éclats de pierre. Quand les machines outils se mettent en marche nous demandons à changer de chambre. De celle d'en face nous n'entendons plus rien.
Chambre a 1000 r la nuit. Très confortable et propre. Literie super. Pas de supplément pour le early check in nous marmonne le gars bougon de l'accueil mal réveillé. J'ai rdv dans la matinée avec une jeune expat qui travaille avec des associations locales. Nous passons la journée ensemble et rencontrons des gens formidables. Le midi elle nous emmène dans un resto goûter le fameux Hyderabad biryani. Il paraît que ce sont les meilleurs de toute l'Inde. Mon ami se régale, moi qui ne supporte pas les épices, je ne prends qu'un aloo paratha. Le traffic est intense le matin entre 9h et 11h, et l'a.midi à partir de 16h. Nous rentrons dans les embouteillages, ce qui nous donne tout le temps de bien observer la vie dans les rues, et de laisser décanter toutes les émotions de cette journée, de ces rencontres. Cette ville nous plait, bien qu'elle soit fatigante. Je trouve que ça klaxonne un peu moins qu'ailleurs.Je ressens un peu la même chose qu'à ma première arrivée à Ahmedabad. Le contact avec les gens est facile, agréable, ils sont particulièrement aidants, nous ne sommes pas sollicités, sauf par les chauffeurs et encore, ils insistent peu. Demain nous visitons Fort Golgonde.
Bonjour
nous souhaitons partir en mars en Inde
nous serons du 1er mars au matin jusqu'au 13 mars départ 1h
soit 12 jours sur place
Nous souhaitons prendre voiture avec chauffeur voir guide si pas trop cher nous avons demandé des devis à des agences conseillés ici mais nous hésitons sur le circuit sachant que nous ne souhaitons pas faire que des forts mais variés avec des temples, de la nature et aussi la vie locale
aussi on nous a proposé la réserve de ranthambore est ce que çà vaut la peine ? Avec safari soir et matin ensuite pour les ghats vu le peu de jours nous pensions aller à Pushkar car on pense que vanarasi est trop loin bien qu'une agence nous a proposé de le faire en train de nuit est ce que Pushkar suffit pour s'imprégner de l'ambiance
pour les sites du rajahstan : jaipur, jodhpur, amber, jailsamer, udaipur est ce qu'ils valent tous le coup d'être visités ? différents ? sachant qu'il y a beaucoup de kms entre l'option serait de prendre ou des vols (mais souvent çà perd une journée ?) ou des trains de nuit je vous mentionne ici les sites que je pensais faire mais peut être enlever jailsamer qui est le plus loin ? Enfin s'il y a des villages à voir où on baigne dans l'ambiance locale je suis preneuse j'ai vu Bundi ?
DEHLI arrivée la nuit visite le 1er mars AGRA voiture ou train ? jaipur voiture ou train ? amber réservé de ranthambore Bundi pushkar udaipur ou/et jodhpur ??? Jailsamer retour avion train sur dehli ?
d'autres sites sont conseillés peut être moins bondés chittogarh ranakpur osyian
pour le désert je pense que de faire une nuit çà ne vaut pas la peine
voilà je vous remercie de vos suggestions d'itinéraires et de sites sachant qu'on ne souhaite pas forcément faire le circuit classique sauf ne pas manquer le taj mahal
Nous souhaitons prendre voiture avec chauffeur voir guide si pas trop cher nous avons demandé des devis à des agences conseillés ici mais nous hésitons sur le circuit sachant que nous ne souhaitons pas faire que des forts mais variés avec des temples, de la nature et aussi la vie locale
aussi on nous a proposé la réserve de ranthambore est ce que çà vaut la peine ? Avec safari soir et matin ensuite pour les ghats vu le peu de jours nous pensions aller à Pushkar car on pense que vanarasi est trop loin bien qu'une agence nous a proposé de le faire en train de nuit est ce que Pushkar suffit pour s'imprégner de l'ambiance
pour les sites du rajahstan : jaipur, jodhpur, amber, jailsamer, udaipur est ce qu'ils valent tous le coup d'être visités ? différents ? sachant qu'il y a beaucoup de kms entre l'option serait de prendre ou des vols (mais souvent çà perd une journée ?) ou des trains de nuit je vous mentionne ici les sites que je pensais faire mais peut être enlever jailsamer qui est le plus loin ? Enfin s'il y a des villages à voir où on baigne dans l'ambiance locale je suis preneuse j'ai vu Bundi ?
DEHLI arrivée la nuit visite le 1er mars AGRA voiture ou train ? jaipur voiture ou train ? amber réservé de ranthambore Bundi pushkar udaipur ou/et jodhpur ??? Jailsamer retour avion train sur dehli ?
d'autres sites sont conseillés peut être moins bondés chittogarh ranakpur osyian
pour le désert je pense que de faire une nuit çà ne vaut pas la peine
voilà je vous remercie de vos suggestions d'itinéraires et de sites sachant qu'on ne souhaite pas forcément faire le circuit classique sauf ne pas manquer le taj mahal
Bonjour à tous,
Pour les habitués de cette destination, quels conseils auriez vous pour un premier trip de 2 à 3 semaines (j'ose espérer en septembre/octobre) ? je voyage régulièrement en Asie (plus Asie du sud est ou du nord, mais je connais également le sous continent indien que j'ai fait 2 fois) . Avec un budget journalier en moyenne de 50 € (flexible), un trek dans les hauteurs pour 1 semaine max ... J'aime aussi les villes, les monuments .
Merci pour vos suggestions
Pour les habitués de cette destination, quels conseils auriez vous pour un premier trip de 2 à 3 semaines (j'ose espérer en septembre/octobre) ? je voyage régulièrement en Asie (plus Asie du sud est ou du nord, mais je connais également le sous continent indien que j'ai fait 2 fois) . Avec un budget journalier en moyenne de 50 € (flexible), un trek dans les hauteurs pour 1 semaine max ... J'aime aussi les villes, les monuments .
Merci pour vos suggestions
