Bonjour à tou (te)s !
Aller au Kirghizistan est une idée qui me trotte dans la tête depuis quelques années.
Cette idée devrait se réaliser à l'été 2021...
Préférant les circuits en indépendant motorisé mais n'étant pas ni une forcenée de conditions de confort rustique et ni aventurière dans l'âme, j'ai écarté les options qui me semblaient trop ambitieuses selon ces critères .
En combinant facilité de visas, facilité du passage des frontière, facilité ferroviaire et aérienne, j'en suis arrivée à l'ébauche suivante (sur 24-26 nuits):
Vol France - Samarcande 1ère étape
Train Samarcande Boukhara 2ème étape
Train Boukhara Tachkent 3 ème étape
Train de nuit Tachkent Almaty 4 ème étape
Ces trains doivent-ils se réserver à l'avance.
Si oui, existe-t-il un site pour acheter en ligne ces billets ?
Almaty visite de la ville et de ses environs accessibles en transport en commun.
Location d'un véhicule pour un petit circuit Charyn Canyon et Altyn Emel NP.
Un 4x4 est-il obligatoire pour ce circuit ?
La police est elle correcte au Kazakhstan ?
Peut on camper dans ces lieux ? Hôtels ?
Peut on acheter du matériel de camping facilement et à un petit prix (le matériel serait abandonné en fin de séjour) à Almaty ? (Genre une petite tente, un matelas, deux chaises , une bonbonne de gaz)
Retour sur Almaty - Transfert pour Bichkek
Quelle est la meilleure option pour relier ces 2 villes ? Taxi ?Taxi partagé ? Bus ?
Location d'un 4x4 à Bichkek.
Le circuit serait du genre Bichkek-Issyk kul-Kol su-
Tchatyr Koul-son kul-Toktogul -Bichkek
Quelques nuits en camping, la plupart en dur chez l'habitant ou à l'hôtel voire une nuit en yourte.
Peut on acheter du matériel de camping facilement et à un petit prix (le matériel serait abandonné en fin de séjour) à Bichkek ?
Un duster 4x4 peut il effectuer ce circuit ?
Que vaut un UAZ version moderne ?
La police est elle correcte ?
Les pistes envisagées sont elles "faciles" ( comprendre de mon niveau...) donc pas de gués supérieur au genou, pas de pentes rocailleuses genre Van Zyl 's pass en Namibie !
Vol retour pour la France depuis Bichkek
Merci 🙂
Bonjour à tous,
je prépare un voyage : Russie (Sibérie) Kazakhstan, Mongolie je recherche des conseils pour trouver un GPS ou Tablette pour me guider par la route dans ces pays. Je ne fais pas de tout-terrain je veux juste utiliser les routes qui dans certains coins de ces pays sont plutot des piste. dans l'attente de vos infos, amicalement.
je prépare un voyage : Russie (Sibérie) Kazakhstan, Mongolie je recherche des conseils pour trouver un GPS ou Tablette pour me guider par la route dans ces pays. Je ne fais pas de tout-terrain je veux juste utiliser les routes qui dans certains coins de ces pays sont plutot des piste. dans l'attente de vos infos, amicalement.
Hi there, 🙂
I’m thinking of taking a trip to these two countries in 2026 (late spring to early summer).
I’d arrive in Almaty and leave from Bishkek, and I’d be driving myself.
I plan to spend 1 week in Kazakhstan and 2 in Kyrgyzstan. The itinerary isn’t set yet.
My preliminary questions are about formalities, hassle levels, and the car.
From what I understand, no visa is needed, the passport must be valid for 6 months after entry, and there’s no longer a requirement to register with the authorities at each stop. In short, once you’re in, no administrative headaches.
Except for permits needed to drive in certain regions?
---/---
About crossing between the two countries:
- On foot - In a rental car
Quick? Easy?
---/---
Are both countries safe? (Meaning you don’t have to stay on guard all the time.) Are the cops corrupt? (A little, a lot, passionately, not at all?)
---/---
Is it better to rent a car for both countries or rent a vehicle in each country?
A 4x4 or something else?
Is accommodation plentiful enough that I can skip a rooftop tent, or is it better to rent a 4x4 with one?
I’ll definitely have more questions later...😉
Thanks for your answers !
I’m thinking of taking a trip to these two countries in 2026 (late spring to early summer).
I’d arrive in Almaty and leave from Bishkek, and I’d be driving myself.
I plan to spend 1 week in Kazakhstan and 2 in Kyrgyzstan. The itinerary isn’t set yet.
My preliminary questions are about formalities, hassle levels, and the car.
From what I understand, no visa is needed, the passport must be valid for 6 months after entry, and there’s no longer a requirement to register with the authorities at each stop. In short, once you’re in, no administrative headaches.
Except for permits needed to drive in certain regions?
---/---
About crossing between the two countries:
- On foot - In a rental car
Quick? Easy?
---/---
Are both countries safe? (Meaning you don’t have to stay on guard all the time.) Are the cops corrupt? (A little, a lot, passionately, not at all?)
---/---
Is it better to rent a car for both countries or rent a vehicle in each country?
A 4x4 or something else?
Is accommodation plentiful enough that I can skip a rooftop tent, or is it better to rent a 4x4 with one?
I’ll definitely have more questions later...😉
Thanks for your answers !
Hello,
Summer 2026 hasn’t even arrived yet, and I’m already thinking about summer 2027! We’re a family with two kids, who will be 9.5 and 4.5 years old next summer (turning 5 at the end of October 2027, actually). We’d love to spend 19 nights in Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan—a part of the world that’s completely new to us. We enjoy traveling, do it often, and the kids are used to it (though we still need a bit of organization and comfort!). Here’s the rough outline of our itinerary: Day 1 - Arrival in Tashkent (ideally in the late afternoon). Head to the train station (by taxi?) to take the overnight sleeper train to Urgench (1 night). Day 2 - Khiva (2 nights): Taxi transfer from the station to the city. Visit Itchan Kala, the walls, and sunset. Day 4 - Head to Bukhara (3 nights) by train (about 6 hours). Visit the historic center, domes, and workshops. Day 7 - On to Samarkand (2 nights), but this time with a private driver. Visit Registan, the necropolis, and local crafts. Day 9 - Head to Osh (1 night) in Kyrgyzstan with the private driver, who’ll drop us at the border. Long transition day (including border crossing). If it’s not too late, visit Osh’s market (otherwise, the next morning). Day 10 - Pick up our rental car (4x4 without a driver this time) and drive to Toktogul (2 nights) and the Suusamyr Valley. Day 12 - Head to the Kochkor region (350 km - 4 nights): Tash Rabat, Song-Kul Lake (yurt stay), and Aigliers. Day 16 - Depart for Karakol/Issyk-Kul (250 km - 4 nights): Jeti-Oguz, Altyn Arashan, beaches, and hot springs. Day 20: Fly home. TOTAL = 19 nights What do you think? Budget-wise:
Flight tickets: 3000 € Uzbekistan logistics (accommodation ideally with a pool for the kids and vehicle): 1600 € Kyrgyzstan logistics (accommodation and 4x4 vehicle like a Pajero/Land Cruiser): 1600 € Living & food: 800 € TOTAL: 7000 €
Does this seem reasonable? Not overestimated or underestimated? Thanks for any feedback or tips from your own experiences.
Summer 2026 hasn’t even arrived yet, and I’m already thinking about summer 2027! We’re a family with two kids, who will be 9.5 and 4.5 years old next summer (turning 5 at the end of October 2027, actually). We’d love to spend 19 nights in Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan—a part of the world that’s completely new to us. We enjoy traveling, do it often, and the kids are used to it (though we still need a bit of organization and comfort!). Here’s the rough outline of our itinerary: Day 1 - Arrival in Tashkent (ideally in the late afternoon). Head to the train station (by taxi?) to take the overnight sleeper train to Urgench (1 night). Day 2 - Khiva (2 nights): Taxi transfer from the station to the city. Visit Itchan Kala, the walls, and sunset. Day 4 - Head to Bukhara (3 nights) by train (about 6 hours). Visit the historic center, domes, and workshops. Day 7 - On to Samarkand (2 nights), but this time with a private driver. Visit Registan, the necropolis, and local crafts. Day 9 - Head to Osh (1 night) in Kyrgyzstan with the private driver, who’ll drop us at the border. Long transition day (including border crossing). If it’s not too late, visit Osh’s market (otherwise, the next morning). Day 10 - Pick up our rental car (4x4 without a driver this time) and drive to Toktogul (2 nights) and the Suusamyr Valley. Day 12 - Head to the Kochkor region (350 km - 4 nights): Tash Rabat, Song-Kul Lake (yurt stay), and Aigliers. Day 16 - Depart for Karakol/Issyk-Kul (250 km - 4 nights): Jeti-Oguz, Altyn Arashan, beaches, and hot springs. Day 20: Fly home. TOTAL = 19 nights What do you think? Budget-wise:
Flight tickets: 3000 € Uzbekistan logistics (accommodation ideally with a pool for the kids and vehicle): 1600 € Kyrgyzstan logistics (accommodation and 4x4 vehicle like a Pajero/Land Cruiser): 1600 € Living & food: 800 € TOTAL: 7000 €
Does this seem reasonable? Not overestimated or underestimated? Thanks for any feedback or tips from your own experiences.
Salut à tous ! Après un périple de 15 jours en Ouzbékistan ( mai 2020 ), j'envisage de poursuivre une semaine au Kirghizistan. Quelques questions m'interrogent :
1) question d'actualité, la frontière entre Andijan et Och est-elle la plus pratique et est-elle toujours ouverte ? autre possibilité pour rejoindre Och depuis Margilan ?
2) J'ai lu pas mal de post sur les trajets au Kirghizistan mais la plupart effectués en voiture de location. Qu'en est-il en transport en commun sur l'axe Och - Jalalabad - Kazarman - Lac Son Koul - Kotchkor - Bichkek ?
3) On parle d'une nouvelle route Nord-Sud justement , est-elle terminée dans son ensemble ? Y a-t-il problème de circulation en début Juin ( question météo ) ?
4) Autres lieux et sites à découvrir sur cet axe ? Trouve-t-on facilement des taxis partagés ou autre comme en Ouzbékistan ?
5) Peut-on facilement trouver à organiser un ou deux jours de détente-découverte dans la région du lac ( campement bien situé et facile d'accés ( approche en véhicule ... pas trop trekkeur ! 😕 ) ? A partir de quelle ville ou village ? ( je pensais à Kazarman en venant du Sud ...) Merci d'avance pour les nombreuses réponses qui vont venir ... 😉 😉 😉
2) J'ai lu pas mal de post sur les trajets au Kirghizistan mais la plupart effectués en voiture de location. Qu'en est-il en transport en commun sur l'axe Och - Jalalabad - Kazarman - Lac Son Koul - Kotchkor - Bichkek ?
3) On parle d'une nouvelle route Nord-Sud justement , est-elle terminée dans son ensemble ? Y a-t-il problème de circulation en début Juin ( question météo ) ?
4) Autres lieux et sites à découvrir sur cet axe ? Trouve-t-on facilement des taxis partagés ou autre comme en Ouzbékistan ?
5) Peut-on facilement trouver à organiser un ou deux jours de détente-découverte dans la région du lac ( campement bien situé et facile d'accés ( approche en véhicule ... pas trop trekkeur ! 😕 ) ? A partir de quelle ville ou village ? ( je pensais à Kazarman en venant du Sud ...) Merci d'avance pour les nombreuses réponses qui vont venir ... 😉 😉 😉
Hello ! Quelqu'un aurait-il déjà utilisé le bus de nuit entre ces 2 capitales ?
Toute info ( horaires, prix, pratique, resa de billets , confort etc...) sera la bienvenue ! 😉
Merci d'avance
Bonjour,
en août prochain, après une semaine à marcher autour du lac Song Kul, nous aimerions rejoindre l'Ouzbekistan par voie terrestre, en taxi, par le sud, sans repasser par Bichkek. Sur la carte, je vois une route via Kazarman, puis Jalal Abad et Och. Cette route est -elle utilisable, ou est ce une vraie galère ?
merci de votre aide
Cath
Hi,
Does anyone know if the travel agency "NOUVINI" in Tashkent still exists???
Or do you have another agency to recommend???
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
Jean Pierre
Hi,
Planning a solo trip to Kyrgyzstan in May. Any tips or info?
Thanks
Planning a solo trip to Kyrgyzstan in May. Any tips or info?
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning to explore Uzbekistan this summer (with the weather constraints that come with it). Our itinerary includes the three classic cities plus a few side trips here and there. We still have one week left that we’d like to dedicate to hiking. We were thinking of heading to Kyrgyzstan, but I’m open to other suggestions if we stay in Uzbekistan. Thanks!
Hi there! 🙂
I’m not planning to bring all my meals for the 3 weeks of travel, but I’d like to spice up my picnic lunches and a few dinners in this country that’s not exactly known for its cuisine...
I’ve seen that fruits and vegetables are easy to find. Bread is also no problem.
I’m a bit unsure about the local cheese, but I’ll manage.
Actually, it’s what I’d put in my sandwiches that I’d like to pack: cured sausage, pâtés.
Are these foods allowed through customs?
Also, I’m thinking that bringing 3-4 freeze-dried meals could be a good option. I’ve never bought any before. Which brands are the most flavorful?
I’ve also noticed that real coffee is rare. (Meaning Kyrgyz people drink Nescafé. Sacrilege!) Can I easily find coffee there to make my own?
Finally, which supermarket chain is the best? (Meaning the one with the most variety and, above all, quality!)
Last question: where can I buy a gas stove in Bishkek? (I’ve heard that local gas canisters aren’t compatible with the stove I already own)
Thanks!
I’m not planning to bring all my meals for the 3 weeks of travel, but I’d like to spice up my picnic lunches and a few dinners in this country that’s not exactly known for its cuisine...
I’ve seen that fruits and vegetables are easy to find. Bread is also no problem.
I’m a bit unsure about the local cheese, but I’ll manage.
Actually, it’s what I’d put in my sandwiches that I’d like to pack: cured sausage, pâtés.
Are these foods allowed through customs?
Also, I’m thinking that bringing 3-4 freeze-dried meals could be a good option. I’ve never bought any before. Which brands are the most flavorful?
I’ve also noticed that real coffee is rare. (Meaning Kyrgyz people drink Nescafé. Sacrilege!) Can I easily find coffee there to make my own?
Finally, which supermarket chain is the best? (Meaning the one with the most variety and, above all, quality!)
Last question: where can I buy a gas stove in Bishkek? (I’ve heard that local gas canisters aren’t compatible with the stove I already own)
Thanks!
Hi there,
We're planning a trip from Astana to Dushanbe. By train across Kazakhstan, then using public transport in Kyrgyzstan (circling Lake Issyk-Kul) and Tajikistan, taking the northern route in the latter (from Khujand to Dushanbe).
Have any of you been to these regions recently, and what do you think about the safety aspect?
Thanks in advance! :)
Bonjour à tous,
Je vais en Ouzbekistan en décembre 2020 et je souhaite savoir s’il est possible de conduire par soi-même?
J’ai lu le contraire sur des blogs réalisés il y a quelques années mais peut-être que cela a changé entre-temps.
Merci pour vos réponses:-) Daniel
J’ai lu le contraire sur des blogs réalisés il y a quelques années mais peut-être que cela a changé entre-temps.
Merci pour vos réponses:-) Daniel
Hi there,
I’ve never bought a SIM card abroad or even used prepaid cards in France...
So I’m wondering how it all works?
You buy a SIM card and pop it into your phone. Okay, so far so good... 😏
But after that?
I can’t find the price of prepaid cards or how they work with MegaCom.
If someone could give me a step-by-step guide... 😊
Thanks! 🙂
I’ve never bought a SIM card abroad or even used prepaid cards in France...
So I’m wondering how it all works?
You buy a SIM card and pop it into your phone. Okay, so far so good... 😏
But after that?
I can’t find the price of prepaid cards or how they work with MegaCom.
If someone could give me a step-by-step guide... 😊
Thanks! 🙂
Hi everyone, happy to be back on VF!
I’ll be in Uzbekistan this coming April and will of course visit the three classics—Samarkand, Bukhara, and Khiva. However, I’d also love to get out of these cities to explore the Uzbek countryside and experience its nature. Mountains, steppes, etc. Ideally, with some great hikes passing through villages. Any spots you’d recommend? Thanks in advance
Bonjour a tous
Je projette d aller découvrir une partie de l Asie centrale, en y allant par voie terrestre et en rentrant par avion depuis Tachkent.
Des témoignages sur des virées similaires ?
Les possibilités, les impasses, ... ?
Merci de vos avis.
Béatrice
Je projette d aller découvrir une partie de l Asie centrale, en y allant par voie terrestre et en rentrant par avion depuis Tachkent.
Des témoignages sur des virées similaires ?
Les possibilités, les impasses, ... ?
Merci de vos avis.
Béatrice
Bonjour , je commence a réfléchir a en voyage en Asie Centrale en 2021 ...avril , mai jusqu’à la mi juin soit 2,5 mois . Je pense donc a l’Ouzbékistan , le Tadjikistan , le Kazakhstan et le Kirghizistan ( le Kirghizistan je connais donc secondaire )
Je suis preneur , pour des idées d’itinéraires et d'autres idées si vous en avez . Je recherche une certaine logique dans mes déplacements.
merci
Hey fellow travelers! Could anyone tell me if it's possible to buy a SIM card in Murghab? Thanks in advance for your tips!! 🙏🙏🙏
I took a few days to get some fresh air outside the Schengen-NATO prison. Between March 18, 2026, and March 25, 2026, as shown by the passport stamps:

Borisoglebsk is the Russian border checkpoint after Kirkenes, on the road to Murmansk.
Kirkenes is a tiny town with a correspondingly small airport. Nothing has changed there: the minibuses to Murmansk wait on the right as you exit the airport. They’re synchronized with the two daily flights from Oslo—the SAS around 11:00 AM and Norwegian around 11:30 AM. They stop in Kirkenes at the corner of the Scandic for an hour, where other passengers can board, then head straight to the nearby border.
This is the least hassle Frontex/Schengen border. The Norwegian agent quickly scans your passport, and that’s it. No customs, since Norway is Schengen but not in the EU. On the Russian side, there’s a passport check and a quick customs inspection. All in all, crossing both the Norwegian and Russian checkpoints takes about 15 minutes.
A paper visa is required; e-visas aren’t accepted.
Two companies run the route: Avto Ekspress and Borodin: https://ae51.ru/routes/kirkenes-murmansk/ https://borodinbus.com/
The one-way fare is 5,500 ₽. You can either buy it online in rubles with a MIR card or make a formal reservation and pay in NOK cash to the driver. I took Borodin, and the price in NOK was much more expensive than in ₽.
=========================
On March 25, I left from Pskov via the Estonian border post at Luhaama. I spent three days in Murmansk, flew to St. Petersburg (SPB), stayed there for two days, then took an evening train to Pskov.
Since the end of February—and reportedly until the end of May—the Estonians have restricted the opening hours of the two border crossings near Pskov: Koidula (Pechory on the Russian side) and Luhaama (Izborsk on the Russian side). They’re closed at night between 7:00 PM and 7:00 AM. Right now, there’s a bus from Pskov at 7:00 AM to the border. It drops you off at the end of the road where truckers—many Kazakh and Serbian—are parked on the side. You finish the rest on foot to the barrier, where there’s a quick initial check for Ukrainian stamps in passports. Then you walk to the customs building, followed by passport control at the kiosk for motorists. After that, it’s a 500-meter walk to the Estonian checkpoint. At the moment, things seem calmer. Passport control is quick. The usual silly questions in English: "Where were you? Where are you going?" I just gave my most clueless smile: "Sorry, I don’t understand." Yeah, right—I don’t speak English, especially not at an Estonian border with a French passport. If they’re in a mood, though... A very quick bag inspection. Once you exit the Estonian post, walk to the bus stop sign by the road where another coach takes you to Riga.
The catch: in my case, last Wednesday, there were two passengers (Russians) with old Ukrainian stamps in their passports. The bus from the Estonian post to Riga was supposed to leave around 9:30 AM. We ended up leaving around noon after the two were grilled by the FSB. Since it was a weekday outside of holidays, the bus was half-empty. The fuller the bus and the more people with Ukrainian stamps, the worse the nightmare. Don’t book a same-day flight from Riga. I had a flight at 6:00 PM, so it worked out.
=============
The Kirkenes-Murmansk route is still clearly the easiest and fastest. But it’s not the most convenient since it’s way up north.
Next, I’d say the Gdansk-Kaliningrad route in the middle of the week. Avoid weekends and holiday departures/returns.
Avoid the Narva-Ivangorod route during Christmas, Easter, May 9, and *all* summer.
==============
About flights from Murmansk to St. Petersburg: prices are good. I bought my ticket the day before departure on Rossiya for 7,500 ₽, including 10 kg of luggage + a handbag.

It’s the tail end of the northern lights season, and there were still crowds of Chinese tourists.

By the way, Murmansk is twinned with Harbin:

Chinese tourists are the largest foreign group, followed by Indians, then a mix of others from the Far East, Turks, Arabs, etc. Brochures are bilingual—Russian and Chinese:

============================
But let’s talk practical stuff. --
My domestic SIM card was restricted for SMS and internet for 24 hours. After that, if you want to keep using SMS, don’t turn off your phone—restarting triggers another 24-hour purgatory.
My Russian SIM cards (Megafon, MTS, Beeline) were activated as soon as I logged into their respective apps with my credentials.
Internet --
Telegram is heavily slowed down by authorities. To use it, you need to connect through proxy servers, which you load into the latest version of the app. Traffic is then rerouted internally within Telegram to servers outside Russia (Germany, Poland, Sweden, etc.). You can find these proxies on various channels. One is ChatVPN—check their website too.
For general internet use, like browsing the web, VPNs that work right now use the VLESS protocol. You can find several on Telegram by searching "VPN." A few free days, then payment in rubles or crypto.
Rozkomnadzor’s team are experts at this, so things can change. It’s a constant cat-and-mouse game.
Pskov is a special case. The city is near Estonia and has a large military base. Depending on NATO drone swarms launched from the Baltics, Wi-Fi can be completely suspended except for the most essential mobile apps. The drone swarms use the 4G network, and the powerful electronic jamming and drone suppression systems cause periods without Wi-Fi—including in hotels. Wired connections aren’t affected.

Borisoglebsk is the Russian border checkpoint after Kirkenes, on the road to Murmansk.
Kirkenes is a tiny town with a correspondingly small airport. Nothing has changed there: the minibuses to Murmansk wait on the right as you exit the airport. They’re synchronized with the two daily flights from Oslo—the SAS around 11:00 AM and Norwegian around 11:30 AM. They stop in Kirkenes at the corner of the Scandic for an hour, where other passengers can board, then head straight to the nearby border.
This is the least hassle Frontex/Schengen border. The Norwegian agent quickly scans your passport, and that’s it. No customs, since Norway is Schengen but not in the EU. On the Russian side, there’s a passport check and a quick customs inspection. All in all, crossing both the Norwegian and Russian checkpoints takes about 15 minutes.
A paper visa is required; e-visas aren’t accepted.
Two companies run the route: Avto Ekspress and Borodin: https://ae51.ru/routes/kirkenes-murmansk/ https://borodinbus.com/
The one-way fare is 5,500 ₽. You can either buy it online in rubles with a MIR card or make a formal reservation and pay in NOK cash to the driver. I took Borodin, and the price in NOK was much more expensive than in ₽.
=========================
On March 25, I left from Pskov via the Estonian border post at Luhaama. I spent three days in Murmansk, flew to St. Petersburg (SPB), stayed there for two days, then took an evening train to Pskov.
Since the end of February—and reportedly until the end of May—the Estonians have restricted the opening hours of the two border crossings near Pskov: Koidula (Pechory on the Russian side) and Luhaama (Izborsk on the Russian side). They’re closed at night between 7:00 PM and 7:00 AM. Right now, there’s a bus from Pskov at 7:00 AM to the border. It drops you off at the end of the road where truckers—many Kazakh and Serbian—are parked on the side. You finish the rest on foot to the barrier, where there’s a quick initial check for Ukrainian stamps in passports. Then you walk to the customs building, followed by passport control at the kiosk for motorists. After that, it’s a 500-meter walk to the Estonian checkpoint. At the moment, things seem calmer. Passport control is quick. The usual silly questions in English: "Where were you? Where are you going?" I just gave my most clueless smile: "Sorry, I don’t understand." Yeah, right—I don’t speak English, especially not at an Estonian border with a French passport. If they’re in a mood, though... A very quick bag inspection. Once you exit the Estonian post, walk to the bus stop sign by the road where another coach takes you to Riga.
The catch: in my case, last Wednesday, there were two passengers (Russians) with old Ukrainian stamps in their passports. The bus from the Estonian post to Riga was supposed to leave around 9:30 AM. We ended up leaving around noon after the two were grilled by the FSB. Since it was a weekday outside of holidays, the bus was half-empty. The fuller the bus and the more people with Ukrainian stamps, the worse the nightmare. Don’t book a same-day flight from Riga. I had a flight at 6:00 PM, so it worked out.
=============
The Kirkenes-Murmansk route is still clearly the easiest and fastest. But it’s not the most convenient since it’s way up north.
Next, I’d say the Gdansk-Kaliningrad route in the middle of the week. Avoid weekends and holiday departures/returns.
Avoid the Narva-Ivangorod route during Christmas, Easter, May 9, and *all* summer.
==============
About flights from Murmansk to St. Petersburg: prices are good. I bought my ticket the day before departure on Rossiya for 7,500 ₽, including 10 kg of luggage + a handbag.

It’s the tail end of the northern lights season, and there were still crowds of Chinese tourists.

By the way, Murmansk is twinned with Harbin:

Chinese tourists are the largest foreign group, followed by Indians, then a mix of others from the Far East, Turks, Arabs, etc. Brochures are bilingual—Russian and Chinese:

============================
But let’s talk practical stuff. --
My domestic SIM card was restricted for SMS and internet for 24 hours. After that, if you want to keep using SMS, don’t turn off your phone—restarting triggers another 24-hour purgatory.
My Russian SIM cards (Megafon, MTS, Beeline) were activated as soon as I logged into their respective apps with my credentials.
Internet --
Telegram is heavily slowed down by authorities. To use it, you need to connect through proxy servers, which you load into the latest version of the app. Traffic is then rerouted internally within Telegram to servers outside Russia (Germany, Poland, Sweden, etc.). You can find these proxies on various channels. One is ChatVPN—check their website too.
For general internet use, like browsing the web, VPNs that work right now use the VLESS protocol. You can find several on Telegram by searching "VPN." A few free days, then payment in rubles or crypto.
Rozkomnadzor’s team are experts at this, so things can change. It’s a constant cat-and-mouse game.
Pskov is a special case. The city is near Estonia and has a large military base. Depending on NATO drone swarms launched from the Baltics, Wi-Fi can be completely suspended except for the most essential mobile apps. The drone swarms use the 4G network, and the powerful electronic jamming and drone suppression systems cause periods without Wi-Fi—including in hotels. Wired connections aren’t affected.
Hi everyone,
My partner and I are planning a 3-week trip to Kazakhstan in August and would love your input to refine our itinerary.
We’re thinking of spending the first part of the trip in the Almaty region, including the following spots:
Singing Barkhan (singing dune)
Altyn-Emel National Park
Charyn Canyon National Park
Ozora Ushchel'ya Reki Kensu (Kensu River Valley lakes)
possibly Ile-Alatau National Park
After that, we’d like to explore the Mangystau region around Aktau, with highlights like:
Airakty
Tuzbair Salt Lake
Kyzylkup ("Tiramisu")
Gora Bokty
Bozzhyra
Three Brothers Peaks
We’re planning to rent a 4x4 in each region and have a few questions:
Could you recommend any reliable 4x4 rental companies in both the Almaty and Aktau/Mangystau regions?
I’ve read that the Mangystau region can get extremely hot in August. Do you think it’s better to start with Almaty and finish with Aktau to hopefully have milder temperatures (less extreme😛)? For us, doing the reverse would be simpler in terms of international flights, the domestic flight, and it’d also be significantly cheaper.
Regarding the places listed above, do you think there are any must-see spots we should add, or conversely, any sites that aren’t worth the detour?
More generally, do you have any practical tips for a 3-week trip to Kazakhstan in August (road conditions, fuel availability, reservations, weather, safety, etc.)?
Thanks so much for your feedback and advice! P.S.: We’re used to traveling independently and driving 4x4s in sometimes challenging conditions (Namibia, Tanzania, Bolivia—South Lipez, Chile, etc.), and we’re also experienced hikers, used to self-sufficient treks (Patagonia, Huayhuash, Three Peaks in Nepal, among others). We’re just mentioning this to give you an idea of our level of self-sufficiency for this kind of trip.
Singing Barkhan (singing dune)
Altyn-Emel National Park
Charyn Canyon National Park
Ozora Ushchel'ya Reki Kensu (Kensu River Valley lakes)
possibly Ile-Alatau National Park
After that, we’d like to explore the Mangystau region around Aktau, with highlights like:
Airakty
Tuzbair Salt Lake
Kyzylkup ("Tiramisu")
Gora Bokty
Bozzhyra
Three Brothers Peaks
We’re planning to rent a 4x4 in each region and have a few questions:
Could you recommend any reliable 4x4 rental companies in both the Almaty and Aktau/Mangystau regions?
I’ve read that the Mangystau region can get extremely hot in August. Do you think it’s better to start with Almaty and finish with Aktau to hopefully have milder temperatures (less extreme😛)? For us, doing the reverse would be simpler in terms of international flights, the domestic flight, and it’d also be significantly cheaper.
Regarding the places listed above, do you think there are any must-see spots we should add, or conversely, any sites that aren’t worth the detour?
More generally, do you have any practical tips for a 3-week trip to Kazakhstan in August (road conditions, fuel availability, reservations, weather, safety, etc.)?
Thanks so much for your feedback and advice! P.S.: We’re used to traveling independently and driving 4x4s in sometimes challenging conditions (Namibia, Tanzania, Bolivia—South Lipez, Chile, etc.), and we’re also experienced hikers, used to self-sufficient treks (Patagonia, Huayhuash, Three Peaks in Nepal, among others). We’re just mentioning this to give you an idea of our level of self-sufficiency for this kind of trip.
Recent information about this country is scarce, so I’m starting this post in addition to my travel journal to help fill the gap.
- Which airline from Europe?
Turkish Airlines seems like an excellent option. The price is very reasonable (just over 500 €), the layover isn’t too long, the in-flight comfort is decent (great movie selection), and the planes are modern. Plus, the price automatically includes 30 kilos of luggage, which is perfect for campers.
The downside: the outrageous prices at Istanbul Airport.
- Bishkek Airport
The airport is under full reconstruction. It’s chaotic. There are SIM card vendors upon arrival, but no currency exchange or ATMs in the baggage claim area. You’ll find those in the departures section, which means you have to exit and re-enter under the current setup.
Personally, I pre-booked a VTC with my hotel for the transfer to the city. (Prices vary depending on the hotel’s standard—1200 soms for mine.)
There are taxis and a bus available.
- Entry Requirements
No visa is required for French citizens for stays of up to 30 days.
- Currency
The currency is the som, and the conversion is easy—just divide by 100...
You can get soms by exchanging euros (dollars are useless) or by withdrawing from an ATM. Some ATMs charge fees. Those from Mbank and Optimabank are fee-free.
The maximum withdrawal is usually 20,000 soms.
Bills come in 5000, 1000, 500, 200, 100, 50, and 20 soms.
Coins: 10, 5, 3, and 1 som.
- Paying
Card payments are accepted in supermarkets like Globus, some restaurants, gas stations of major chains (Bishkek Petroleum, Partner Neft, Red Petroleum), some hotels, national park entrances, tolls, etc.
But it doesn’t always work.
So always carry cash with you!
If the card works, great—otherwise, it’s back to the old days of wads of bills.
- Cost of Living
It’s really cheap (gas, affordable restaurants even at a decent standard, hotels, souvenirs, fruits, vegetables, water, bread...). For example, a lagman costs only 3.20 €, fixing a flat tire is 3.5 €, a full hour-long wash for a filthy 4x4 is 6 €, washing a big bag of laundry is 3 €, and a liter of 95-octane gas is 0.86 €...
On the pricier side: guesthouses and meals in guesthouses. The value for money is poor. I paid 40 € for a mediocre room with a very basic shared bathroom, while a double with AC, private bathroom, and fridge in a non-touristy hotel cost 20 €... Meals in guesthouses are the worst I’ve eaten and often the most expensive. Plus, they’re very light—don’t expect to fill up after a long day of hiking!
Car rentals are also quite expensive (70 $ per day for a RAV4 in my case).
In short, for two people, excluding accommodation and car rental, we spent an average of 45 € per day (groceries, restaurants, guesthouse dinners, souvenirs, paid activities, gas).
The trip cost us 2200 € per person all-inclusive for 3 weeks on the ground. Roughly 1/4 for the flight, 1/4 for the car, 1/4 for accommodation, and 1/4 for everything else.
- Getting Around
I’ve met cyclists, motorcyclists, people renting cars, those who drove their own vehicles from Europe, and others using public transport and taxis.
Personally, I chose to rent a car.
If you’re not planning long hikes or multi-day horse treks, it’s a great option for exploring the country.
Each car rental company has its own list of forbidden tracks. Make sure your planned route is allowed! Don’t think about ignoring this—vehicles are equipped with GPS trackers...
An international driver’s permit is required.
Police and speed cameras are everywhere, so it’s best to respect the signs (daytime running lights, seatbelts, 40-60 km/h in populated areas, 90 km/h on roads, zero tolerance for alcohol).
Locals have a unique driving style, and it can be dangerous on main roads (they overtake recklessly...). Like in Greece, South Africa, or Malta, a two-lane road is treated as a three-lane one. You pull over to let others pass or to let oncoming traffic overtake.
Without a car (at least a pseudo-4x4), you won’t be able to go everywhere. This country is a nature destination, but nature isn’t always accessible by public transport.
If a spot is near a road, great—the bus will get you almost to the door. Otherwise, you’ll need to hire an agency or take a taxi.
Cyclists will face steep climbs and dust. I’d advise avoiding main roads as much as possible—traffic isn’t on your side...
Motorcyclists will also eat a lot of dust and should research gas stations along their route (this advice also applies to vehicles running on 95-octane).
There’s a 95-octane pump in Kazarman and Gulcha.
Bikes and motorcycles have an advantage over cars, even 4x4s, as they can access some very remote tracks that other vehicles can’t (hikers and horses can obviously take them too!).
Be careful: some areas require a permit (border zones). Research this well in advance—the formalities don’t take an hour or even a day!
Be warned: Google Maps is completely unreliable (it shows roads that don’t exist, routes you through difficult tracks instead of paved roads, etc.). It’s essential to download Maps.me in advance. This app is much more reliable for this country, works offline, and is handy for hiking navigation.
A reminder: horseback riding is like cycling... If you’re not used to it or naturally padded in the right places, your backside will suffer in no time!
Think carefully before embarking on a multi-day trek!
Finally, this country is a kingdom of construction... The Chinese have taken over the market to improve truck circulation and are paving everywhere. (Good news: the Kazarman-Osh section via the tunnel is finally open in summer, even if the road isn’t quite finished.)
- Eating
I had prejudices about Kyrgyz food.
I was both wrong and right.
Supermarkets don’t offer much that’s appealing for picnics. It’s cheap, filling food, full of junk, and not gourmet. If you follow Yuka, I think you’ll be on a diet the whole trip. Bringing some pâté, sausages, or freeze-dried meals for certain nights is a good idea...
Guesthouse dinners consist of the eternal cucumber-tomato salad, a soup, and a light noodle or rice dish where you’ll be searching for the meat... Usually tough and unidentifiable. Beef? The bread is stale, and there’s no dessert or fruit.
Breakfasts always revolve around eggs or porridge... The homemade jam is usually good.
Tea is the number one drink, followed by kompot (a fruit-based drink), Coke, and Fanta.
If you want real coffee, bring your own—it’s very rare.
On the other hand, you eat well in restaurants. Lagman (homemade noodles, vegetables, spices, and usually beef), crispy eggplant, kuurdak (a kind of lamb stew with potatoes), kebabs, plov (pilaf rice with onions, carrots, and meat), and rainbow trout... For dessert? Nada!
And alcohol?
It’s available in all Globus stores: beer, wine, spirits, and you can consume your purchases in some guesthouses (depending on the owner’s religious tolerance). It’s also available in some restaurants (Bishkek, Karakol, Osh...).
The deadly specialty?
White fermented milk balls called kurut. If you think a raw-milk camembert is strong, steer clear! This is more like an old, dry, spicy goat cheese.
- Accommodation
In remote areas, it’s better to check availability on Booking a few days in advance rather than showing up last minute with high hopes.
Booking and Airbnb only offer a small portion of what’s available.
Not necessarily guesthouses, but mostly accommodations aimed at locals (business or leisure travel).
These places are generally more comfortable. There’s even some upscale options.
So it’s necessary to scour Google Maps or Yandex Maps... These accommodations are usually found on Instagram, and WhatsApp is handy for booking!
Prices are a bit of a lottery. So is the comfort. From 20 to 80 € for a double, usually with a private bathroom. (Average around 40 €). These rates are for mid-range options.
Otherwise, this country is a paradise for wild camping. In a camper van, rooftop tent, or ground tent... There are beautiful spots everywhere!
- Climate
I thought it would be quite cool/cold at altitude.
I packed too many warm clothes...
If you’re not doing high-altitude treks or sleeping in a tent, there’s no need to overload yourself with winter gear.
A good fleece, a windproof rain jacket, and technical base layers will be enough.
It only got really cold in the evenings at Song Kul Lake and Tash Rabat, and the yurts are equipped with thick blankets and a stove.
Elsewhere, temperatures ranged from 15 to 30 °C.
In short, I used the AC more than the heater! (It’s hard to drive with the windows open unless you want to be covered in dust in no time...)
- Communication
I bought an eSIM before the trip with a data plan for Kyrgyzstan (Beeline network). Perfect for communicating via WhatsApp right after landing, but this network isn’t the best in Kyrgyzstan.
We then got a physical SIM card with an unlimited one-month plan (less than 4 € including the SIM) at a Mega store downtown. This network is much better, and you get coverage in all cities and most villages. Usually in the mountain passes too.
To make yourself understood, it’s essential to download Google Translate with French, Kyrgyz, Russian, and English options.
Very useful for translating menus, signs, and communicating with locals.
Hosts and other tourism professionals will even pull out their phones to communicate with non-Russian speakers.
The police too...
- Religion
There’s a noticeable difference between the north and the southwest of the country.
In the north, it’s a bit like Albania. People are Muslim by culture but not really by religion.
In the southwest, radical Islam is growing. Mosques are more numerous and imposing. Men are more bearded, women more veiled.
For travelers, religion isn’t an issue except for the near-total absence of pork.
There’s Russian sausage, but reading the ingredient list, it’s more like a one-way ticket to cancer than an Auvergne dry sausage...

You can find the detailed account of the trip here.
- Which airline from Europe?
Turkish Airlines seems like an excellent option. The price is very reasonable (just over 500 €), the layover isn’t too long, the in-flight comfort is decent (great movie selection), and the planes are modern. Plus, the price automatically includes 30 kilos of luggage, which is perfect for campers.
The downside: the outrageous prices at Istanbul Airport.
- Bishkek Airport
The airport is under full reconstruction. It’s chaotic. There are SIM card vendors upon arrival, but no currency exchange or ATMs in the baggage claim area. You’ll find those in the departures section, which means you have to exit and re-enter under the current setup.
Personally, I pre-booked a VTC with my hotel for the transfer to the city. (Prices vary depending on the hotel’s standard—1200 soms for mine.)
There are taxis and a bus available.
- Entry Requirements
No visa is required for French citizens for stays of up to 30 days.
- Currency
The currency is the som, and the conversion is easy—just divide by 100...
You can get soms by exchanging euros (dollars are useless) or by withdrawing from an ATM. Some ATMs charge fees. Those from Mbank and Optimabank are fee-free.
The maximum withdrawal is usually 20,000 soms.
Bills come in 5000, 1000, 500, 200, 100, 50, and 20 soms.
Coins: 10, 5, 3, and 1 som.
- Paying
Card payments are accepted in supermarkets like Globus, some restaurants, gas stations of major chains (Bishkek Petroleum, Partner Neft, Red Petroleum), some hotels, national park entrances, tolls, etc.
But it doesn’t always work.
So always carry cash with you!
If the card works, great—otherwise, it’s back to the old days of wads of bills.
- Cost of Living
It’s really cheap (gas, affordable restaurants even at a decent standard, hotels, souvenirs, fruits, vegetables, water, bread...). For example, a lagman costs only 3.20 €, fixing a flat tire is 3.5 €, a full hour-long wash for a filthy 4x4 is 6 €, washing a big bag of laundry is 3 €, and a liter of 95-octane gas is 0.86 €...
On the pricier side: guesthouses and meals in guesthouses. The value for money is poor. I paid 40 € for a mediocre room with a very basic shared bathroom, while a double with AC, private bathroom, and fridge in a non-touristy hotel cost 20 €... Meals in guesthouses are the worst I’ve eaten and often the most expensive. Plus, they’re very light—don’t expect to fill up after a long day of hiking!
Car rentals are also quite expensive (70 $ per day for a RAV4 in my case).
In short, for two people, excluding accommodation and car rental, we spent an average of 45 € per day (groceries, restaurants, guesthouse dinners, souvenirs, paid activities, gas).
The trip cost us 2200 € per person all-inclusive for 3 weeks on the ground. Roughly 1/4 for the flight, 1/4 for the car, 1/4 for accommodation, and 1/4 for everything else.
- Getting Around
I’ve met cyclists, motorcyclists, people renting cars, those who drove their own vehicles from Europe, and others using public transport and taxis.
Personally, I chose to rent a car.
If you’re not planning long hikes or multi-day horse treks, it’s a great option for exploring the country.
Each car rental company has its own list of forbidden tracks. Make sure your planned route is allowed! Don’t think about ignoring this—vehicles are equipped with GPS trackers...
An international driver’s permit is required.
Police and speed cameras are everywhere, so it’s best to respect the signs (daytime running lights, seatbelts, 40-60 km/h in populated areas, 90 km/h on roads, zero tolerance for alcohol).
Locals have a unique driving style, and it can be dangerous on main roads (they overtake recklessly...). Like in Greece, South Africa, or Malta, a two-lane road is treated as a three-lane one. You pull over to let others pass or to let oncoming traffic overtake.
Without a car (at least a pseudo-4x4), you won’t be able to go everywhere. This country is a nature destination, but nature isn’t always accessible by public transport.
If a spot is near a road, great—the bus will get you almost to the door. Otherwise, you’ll need to hire an agency or take a taxi.
Cyclists will face steep climbs and dust. I’d advise avoiding main roads as much as possible—traffic isn’t on your side...
Motorcyclists will also eat a lot of dust and should research gas stations along their route (this advice also applies to vehicles running on 95-octane).
There’s a 95-octane pump in Kazarman and Gulcha.
Bikes and motorcycles have an advantage over cars, even 4x4s, as they can access some very remote tracks that other vehicles can’t (hikers and horses can obviously take them too!).
Be careful: some areas require a permit (border zones). Research this well in advance—the formalities don’t take an hour or even a day!
Be warned: Google Maps is completely unreliable (it shows roads that don’t exist, routes you through difficult tracks instead of paved roads, etc.). It’s essential to download Maps.me in advance. This app is much more reliable for this country, works offline, and is handy for hiking navigation.
A reminder: horseback riding is like cycling... If you’re not used to it or naturally padded in the right places, your backside will suffer in no time!
Think carefully before embarking on a multi-day trek!
Finally, this country is a kingdom of construction... The Chinese have taken over the market to improve truck circulation and are paving everywhere. (Good news: the Kazarman-Osh section via the tunnel is finally open in summer, even if the road isn’t quite finished.)
- Eating
I had prejudices about Kyrgyz food.
I was both wrong and right.
Supermarkets don’t offer much that’s appealing for picnics. It’s cheap, filling food, full of junk, and not gourmet. If you follow Yuka, I think you’ll be on a diet the whole trip. Bringing some pâté, sausages, or freeze-dried meals for certain nights is a good idea...
Guesthouse dinners consist of the eternal cucumber-tomato salad, a soup, and a light noodle or rice dish where you’ll be searching for the meat... Usually tough and unidentifiable. Beef? The bread is stale, and there’s no dessert or fruit.
Breakfasts always revolve around eggs or porridge... The homemade jam is usually good.
Tea is the number one drink, followed by kompot (a fruit-based drink), Coke, and Fanta.
If you want real coffee, bring your own—it’s very rare.
On the other hand, you eat well in restaurants. Lagman (homemade noodles, vegetables, spices, and usually beef), crispy eggplant, kuurdak (a kind of lamb stew with potatoes), kebabs, plov (pilaf rice with onions, carrots, and meat), and rainbow trout... For dessert? Nada!
And alcohol?
It’s available in all Globus stores: beer, wine, spirits, and you can consume your purchases in some guesthouses (depending on the owner’s religious tolerance). It’s also available in some restaurants (Bishkek, Karakol, Osh...).
The deadly specialty?
White fermented milk balls called kurut. If you think a raw-milk camembert is strong, steer clear! This is more like an old, dry, spicy goat cheese.
- Accommodation
In remote areas, it’s better to check availability on Booking a few days in advance rather than showing up last minute with high hopes.
Booking and Airbnb only offer a small portion of what’s available.
Not necessarily guesthouses, but mostly accommodations aimed at locals (business or leisure travel).
These places are generally more comfortable. There’s even some upscale options.
So it’s necessary to scour Google Maps or Yandex Maps... These accommodations are usually found on Instagram, and WhatsApp is handy for booking!
Prices are a bit of a lottery. So is the comfort. From 20 to 80 € for a double, usually with a private bathroom. (Average around 40 €). These rates are for mid-range options.
Otherwise, this country is a paradise for wild camping. In a camper van, rooftop tent, or ground tent... There are beautiful spots everywhere!
- Climate
I thought it would be quite cool/cold at altitude.
I packed too many warm clothes...
If you’re not doing high-altitude treks or sleeping in a tent, there’s no need to overload yourself with winter gear.
A good fleece, a windproof rain jacket, and technical base layers will be enough.
It only got really cold in the evenings at Song Kul Lake and Tash Rabat, and the yurts are equipped with thick blankets and a stove.
Elsewhere, temperatures ranged from 15 to 30 °C.
In short, I used the AC more than the heater! (It’s hard to drive with the windows open unless you want to be covered in dust in no time...)
- Communication
I bought an eSIM before the trip with a data plan for Kyrgyzstan (Beeline network). Perfect for communicating via WhatsApp right after landing, but this network isn’t the best in Kyrgyzstan.
We then got a physical SIM card with an unlimited one-month plan (less than 4 € including the SIM) at a Mega store downtown. This network is much better, and you get coverage in all cities and most villages. Usually in the mountain passes too.
To make yourself understood, it’s essential to download Google Translate with French, Kyrgyz, Russian, and English options.
Very useful for translating menus, signs, and communicating with locals.
Hosts and other tourism professionals will even pull out their phones to communicate with non-Russian speakers.
The police too...
- Religion
There’s a noticeable difference between the north and the southwest of the country.
In the north, it’s a bit like Albania. People are Muslim by culture but not really by religion.
In the southwest, radical Islam is growing. Mosques are more numerous and imposing. Men are more bearded, women more veiled.
For travelers, religion isn’t an issue except for the near-total absence of pork.
There’s Russian sausage, but reading the ingredient list, it’s more like a one-way ticket to cancer than an Auvergne dry sausage...

You can find the detailed account of the trip here.
Hello,
New year, new questions...😛
Since the Chinese highway isn’t finished yet (opening postponed year after year), I’m wondering what condition this track is in come June?
I’m a bit worried that the snowmelt might completely soak the track—or even that the snow might still be clinging to the mountainside near the pass...
Thanks 🙂
New year, new questions...😛
Since the Chinese highway isn’t finished yet (opening postponed year after year), I’m wondering what condition this track is in come June?
I’m a bit worried that the snowmelt might completely soak the track—or even that the snow might still be clinging to the mountainside near the pass...
Thanks 🙂
Hello,
I’m planning my return to Bishkek in March, where my Thai wife and I have parked our camper van. On our way back from Thailand, we’d love to connect with one or more French-speaking contacts who know Kyrgyzstan.
Best regards,
I’m planning my return to Bishkek in March, where my Thai wife and I have parked our camper van. On our way back from Thailand, we’d love to connect with one or more French-speaking contacts who know Kyrgyzstan.
Best regards,
J'ai un projet de voyage au Kirghizistan pour 2021. avez-vous des sites pour me procurer la carte du pays. . Quelle période la plus idéale. Merci de me donner vos astuces et idées de découverte. Adresse d'agence francophone correcte. Je privilégie l'hébergement chez l'habitant, être en contact avec les locaux.
Hi,
Does anyone know if it's possible to cross the border by road from Kyrgyzstan to Kashgar in China? If so, is it possible to get a Chinese visa at the border, or do I need to arrange it in advance from France? Any info is welcome, THANKS! :)
Does anyone know if it's possible to cross the border by road from Kyrgyzstan to Kashgar in China? If so, is it possible to get a Chinese visa at the border, or do I need to arrange it in advance from France? Any info is welcome, THANKS! :)
Bonjour, dans le cadre d un tour du monde, nous souhaiterions passer du nepal au kirghizistan
Auriez-vous une idée d itineraire ?
Des amis polonais sont passés par la Chine il y a 2 ans mais ont du faire demi-tour arrivé à la frontière kirghize. On voudrait éviter ce genre de contretemps même si ça fait partie du voyage :)
Merci d avance
Bonjour à tous,
Nous comptons, avec ma femme et mon meilleur ami, passer une journée à Bishkek mi-octobre. Arrivée en avion à 8h30 du matin et départ à 20h00 le soir.
Nous avons absolument absolument conscience que c'est très court comme durée pour profiter pleinement de ce beau pays, mais nous aimerions quand même repartir avec de beaux souvenirs et surtout de belles photos.
Des suggestions à nous donner pour passer une belle journée là-bas?
Des contacts utiles pour des agences de voyage abordables? ou est-ce peut-être inutile?
Merci beaucoup pour votre aide.
Belle soirée.
Bonjour !
J'arriverai au Kirghizistan via la frontière Kazakh de Kegen, et de là je souhaite me rendre à Karakol.
en termes d'itinéraire routier, quel trajet vaut le plus le coup en termes paysagers : la route qui passe par Jyrgalan, ou celle qui passe par Tyup ?
Merci pour vos recommandations et belle journée à tous !
J'arriverai au Kirghizistan via la frontière Kazakh de Kegen, et de là je souhaite me rendre à Karakol.
en termes d'itinéraire routier, quel trajet vaut le plus le coup en termes paysagers : la route qui passe par Jyrgalan, ou celle qui passe par Tyup ?
Merci pour vos recommandations et belle journée à tous !
Hi there,
I’m planning to visit Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan in early June, assuming the war doesn’t spread ??? Could anyone give me some info about the eastern border after visiting Charyn Canyon? First, is it possible to head east using public transport, or should I book a tour from Almaty and stay in the east to continue on to Kyrgyzstan toward Karakol? (I mean, not return to Almaty with the tour.) It’s a bit of a vague question, but those who’ve been there will know what I’m talking about;
Thanks!
Patrice
I’m planning to visit Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan in early June, assuming the war doesn’t spread ??? Could anyone give me some info about the eastern border after visiting Charyn Canyon? First, is it possible to head east using public transport, or should I book a tour from Almaty and stay in the east to continue on to Kyrgyzstan toward Karakol? (I mean, not return to Almaty with the tour.) It’s a bit of a vague question, but those who’ve been there will know what I’m talking about;
Thanks!
Patrice
Bonjour à tous,
Retour de voyage dans le Pamir, voici juste quelques infos des coûts pour un voyage Osh - Murghab - Wakhan - Khorog - petit bout de Bartang - Khorog - Murghab - Osh du 15 septembre au 10 octobre 2019 :
TRANSPORTS - Osh aeroport -> centre ville : taxi 400 SOM. - Osh - Murghab : 2500 SOM - Ishkachim-Khorog : 50 TJS - Khorog-Rushan : 25 TJS - Rushan-Khorog : 20 TJS - Khorog centre -> Khorog terminal taxis pour Murghab : marshroutka n°1, 2 SOM. - Khorog-Murghab : 150 TJS - Murghab-Osh : 200 TJS Pour les gros trajets les chauffeurs vous demanderont 50 TJS de + pour le siège de devant, à vous de négocier 😉 - Osh centre ville -> aéroport : marshroutka n°107 (sous le pont) : entre 10 et 30 SOM selon la taille de vos bagages (j'avais un seul gros sac à dos de 40 litres et j'ai payé 10 SOM)(en fait j'ai pas demandé, j'ai donné mes 10 SOM puis suis allée m'asseoir sans attendre de réponse du chauffeur).
NOURRITURE, en moyenne (en cherchant les prix les + bas) à OSH (bazar) : - pain rond (20 cm de diamètre) 20 SOM - pomme 50 SOM - banane 20 SOM / banane - raisin 50 SOM /kg - pastèque 50 SOM / pièce - melon jaune 100 SOM / pièce - carottes 25 SOM /kg - petits concombres 20 SOM /kg - grenades 50 SOM /kg - abricots secs 150 SOM /kg - miel en alvéoles (ok dans avion) : 150 SOM / 250g - kurut : entre 2 et 5 SOM / pièce selon la grosseur (1cm à 2cm de diamètre). - épices (curcuma, gingembre etc) : environ 200 SOM / kg.
Au Tadjikistan Melon jaune : 30 TJS/pièce grenades : 18 TJS/kg bananes : 20 TJS/kg petit pain rond : 1 TJS (10cm de diamètre) ou 2 TJS (20cm de diamètre) Murghab : 5 TJS les 15 petits kurut, 5 TJS 1 pain (25cm diamètre), pommes 7 TJS/kg
HEBERGEMENTS En moyenne, 15 dollars la nuit+dîner+petit déj, 10 dollars sans les repas. Chez l'habitant, j'ai demandé combien ils voulaient, ils demandent en règle générale entre 5 et 10 dollars ; à vous de leur laisser un billet qui vous semble juste... (s'ils ont utilisé du bois pour faire du feu ou ont arrêté leur travail au champ pour vous emmener chez eux, laissez + par exemple).
DIVERS - Tous les habitants vérifient leur monnaie, prenez le temps de le faire aussi en vérifiant en même temps que ce sont bien des pièces du pays : roubles, somonis, soms khirgizes, elles se ressemblent toutes ; j'ai donné une pièce à un commerçant qui était en fait un rouble. Comme je n'avais que ça, j'ai dû insister et il l'a finalement pris... pour mieux le rendre à un autre touriste j'imagine ^^ 😉 Attention aux billets déchirés puis re-scotchés, un commerçant m'en a également refusé un (puis finalement pris....).
- Villages touristiques : Je n'ai eu aucune demande d'argent ou de bonbons de la part des habitants et des enfants dans le pays. Sauf... Village de Yamchun dans la Wakhan vallée (Forteresse + sources chaudes de Bibi Fatima) : une jeune fille m'a invité à prendre un chaï chez elle ; elle m'a demandé 10 TJS en partant !!! (que je ne lui ai pas donné *évidemment*). Et autre village : Vrang : c'est le seul village où les enfants m'ont demandé des "khakhas", donc des bonbons (refusé aussi, bien évidemment).
Total pour moi : environ 400 euros pour un petit mois, en mode je-mange-presque-rien et j'ai-pas-de-sous.
TRANSPORTS - Osh aeroport -> centre ville : taxi 400 SOM. - Osh - Murghab : 2500 SOM - Ishkachim-Khorog : 50 TJS - Khorog-Rushan : 25 TJS - Rushan-Khorog : 20 TJS - Khorog centre -> Khorog terminal taxis pour Murghab : marshroutka n°1, 2 SOM. - Khorog-Murghab : 150 TJS - Murghab-Osh : 200 TJS Pour les gros trajets les chauffeurs vous demanderont 50 TJS de + pour le siège de devant, à vous de négocier 😉 - Osh centre ville -> aéroport : marshroutka n°107 (sous le pont) : entre 10 et 30 SOM selon la taille de vos bagages (j'avais un seul gros sac à dos de 40 litres et j'ai payé 10 SOM)(en fait j'ai pas demandé, j'ai donné mes 10 SOM puis suis allée m'asseoir sans attendre de réponse du chauffeur).
NOURRITURE, en moyenne (en cherchant les prix les + bas) à OSH (bazar) : - pain rond (20 cm de diamètre) 20 SOM - pomme 50 SOM - banane 20 SOM / banane - raisin 50 SOM /kg - pastèque 50 SOM / pièce - melon jaune 100 SOM / pièce - carottes 25 SOM /kg - petits concombres 20 SOM /kg - grenades 50 SOM /kg - abricots secs 150 SOM /kg - miel en alvéoles (ok dans avion) : 150 SOM / 250g - kurut : entre 2 et 5 SOM / pièce selon la grosseur (1cm à 2cm de diamètre). - épices (curcuma, gingembre etc) : environ 200 SOM / kg.
Au Tadjikistan Melon jaune : 30 TJS/pièce grenades : 18 TJS/kg bananes : 20 TJS/kg petit pain rond : 1 TJS (10cm de diamètre) ou 2 TJS (20cm de diamètre) Murghab : 5 TJS les 15 petits kurut, 5 TJS 1 pain (25cm diamètre), pommes 7 TJS/kg
HEBERGEMENTS En moyenne, 15 dollars la nuit+dîner+petit déj, 10 dollars sans les repas. Chez l'habitant, j'ai demandé combien ils voulaient, ils demandent en règle générale entre 5 et 10 dollars ; à vous de leur laisser un billet qui vous semble juste... (s'ils ont utilisé du bois pour faire du feu ou ont arrêté leur travail au champ pour vous emmener chez eux, laissez + par exemple).
DIVERS - Tous les habitants vérifient leur monnaie, prenez le temps de le faire aussi en vérifiant en même temps que ce sont bien des pièces du pays : roubles, somonis, soms khirgizes, elles se ressemblent toutes ; j'ai donné une pièce à un commerçant qui était en fait un rouble. Comme je n'avais que ça, j'ai dû insister et il l'a finalement pris... pour mieux le rendre à un autre touriste j'imagine ^^ 😉 Attention aux billets déchirés puis re-scotchés, un commerçant m'en a également refusé un (puis finalement pris....).
- Villages touristiques : Je n'ai eu aucune demande d'argent ou de bonbons de la part des habitants et des enfants dans le pays. Sauf... Village de Yamchun dans la Wakhan vallée (Forteresse + sources chaudes de Bibi Fatima) : une jeune fille m'a invité à prendre un chaï chez elle ; elle m'a demandé 10 TJS en partant !!! (que je ne lui ai pas donné *évidemment*). Et autre village : Vrang : c'est le seul village où les enfants m'ont demandé des "khakhas", donc des bonbons (refusé aussi, bien évidemment).
Total pour moi : environ 400 euros pour un petit mois, en mode je-mange-presque-rien et j'ai-pas-de-sous.









