Bonjour à tous,
Nous partons en Chine 4 semaines à 2 en individuel (avec nos téléphones portables et chacun notre ordi) J'oubliais on est « vieux » enfin « plus si jeunes » et pas doués en informatique. Mais on ne ne sait plus très bien comment faire « sans » !!! Plus grave encore nos adresse mails sont sur gmail.com Quelques questions qui paraîtront sans doute stupides à ceux qui « savent »
Coté Téléphone 1) Que dois-je faire : Acheter des cartes SIM chinoises et les glisser à la place des notres dans nos téléphones «smartphones ». J'imagine que j'aurais un nouveau numéro que je pourrais appeler mais que je ne serais plus joignable de France 2) Utiliser (ou acheter) un « vieux téléphone pas cher (un qui ne fait que téléphoner… ) et mettre dedans une puce chinoise Le cas échéant est-ce que je peux si besoin me servir de mon smartphone avec ma puce française pour appeler la France 3) SI je veux téléphoner en france ou recevoir des appels de France utiliser est-ce que SKYPE fonctionne en Chine ? mais dans ce cas est-ce que cela peut se faire à partir de mon compte gmail ou dois-je ouvrir un nouveau compte. Si c'est compliqué y-a-t-il une alternative à Skype (on m'a parlé de « WeChat » qui connaît et qu'en penser ???
Coté internet -Est-ce que je peux ou non continuer à utiliser mon adresse @gmail ? Ou dois-je m'ouvrir un nouveau compte.. mais dans ce cas je peux émettre mais pas recevoir ce que je reçevrais u jour le jour dans ma boite mail Si gmail est plus ou moins bloqué, d'autres fournisseurs d'accès type (@free.fr, @orange.fr, ou autre, ..) fonctionnent-ils sans problème. E si oui lesquels ?
On m'a dit que je pouvais garder mon adresse @gmail à la condition de passer par un « VPN ». Kesako ? Cela fonctionne comment ? Comment s'y « inscrire »
Coté "Outils"
Y-a-t-il des alternatives chinoise (mais en français ou à défaut anglais) à « Google map » et « Google traduction » dont je me sert par habitude.
Dernière question:Y-a-t-il des traducteurs pratiques du Français vers le Chinois en Idéogramme ou en « pinyin »… ou l'inverse !!!!
Merci de m’éclairer un peu. Comme vous le voyez j'en ai bien besoin
Bonjour à tous,
Je souhaite faire un petit séjour d'une semaine en Chine avec un ami pour voir un peu le marché du high Tech (Shenzen, Yiwu) à petit prix (vol à part et petit hôtel)....si vous auriez des conseils au sujet des aéroports à prendre, prix et délais du visa, vaccins obligatoires, autres lieux où on peut trouver des marchands....sachant qu'il s'agit simplement de repérage...merci à vous.
Hi everyone,
This trip report covers a journey along the Silk Road in China (see detailed description below) undertaken in October 2025. The goal isn’t to recount the trip but to provide information that might help those who want to take a similar journey. Much of the information is valid for any trip to China.
Who we are: a retired couple, aged 63 and 65 (age gives discounts on entry to various sites and museums in China, which is why I won’t list prices here—I don’t know them, but you can easily find them online). We’re used to traveling independently. We speak English, which is the only foreign language spoken in China, though by very few people. I speak and read a little Chinese, which helped, but you can easily get by without it (without any English at all, I think it would be more difficult).
Period: We arrived just after "Golden Week," when all of China is on vacation, and after the summer, when schools are out, so we encountered very few tourists (99.99% of whom were Chinese). Our experience with booking visits in advance (which we didn’t need to do) isn’t representative for those who want to travel in the summer! The October-November period was perfect for our trip—it wasn’t too hot or too cold (one day of snow on the Tibetan Plateau), though it was only a few degrees on the Tibetan part, with altitudes between 2,000 and 3,000 meters. The trees were beautifully colored.
General remarks: Everyone we dealt with was very kind and perfectly honest. If you order a meal without really understanding what to do and the person modifies your order, trust them—the result is what you need. If a taxi driver signals that they’ll wait for you to finish your visit and pick you up afterward, trust them. It means there aren’t many taxis where you are, and it’ll be more convenient. For prices at street vendors, we always found the right ballpark, and sometimes they even added a little extra to please us. A taxi driver treated us to lunch, and an employee drove us back to the hotel after a visit because there were no taxis. If you struggle to buy a ticket online because there’s no counter, someone will come to help. People even spontaneously ask if everything’s okay and if you need anything.
Everywhere we went was very clean, including restrooms (trains, stations, hotels, museums, tourist sites) and streets. The old stereotypes about this no longer apply.
The trip can be challenging for those who have difficulty walking. The distances to cover on foot in stations, to access sites, and within the sites themselves can sometimes be really long.
We used the Lonely Planet guide in English (published at the end of August 2025) a little for preparation, but mostly relied on the internet.
Before leaving: No visa is needed for French citizens for stays under 30 days. You get a stamp on your passport upon arrival and departure, and the formalities themselves are very quick in both directions (excluding any potential queues). Just a photo and fingerprints upon arrival, and welcome to China’s facial recognition system.
Money: All your payments (see below) will go through your Visa card—there will be hundreds, including many payments of 20 cents to a few euros. So, you need an international option that allows unlimited card transactions. Since cash is rarely needed, the allowed number of ATM withdrawals can be low. We made 3 withdrawals totaling 800 € for a month and could have managed with just 2. The exchange rate charged on our Visa card was 12 € for 100 RMB (yuan).
Install the following apps on your smartphone before leaving (otherwise, you’ll only have access to the Chinese versions, if available): - Alipay, which is used to pay everywhere in China (details below). You need to link it to your credit card, then provide proof of identity by uploading a passport photo and completing a facial recognition session. Alipay gives access to Didi (China’s Uber), public transport (metro/bus), and can also translate phrases. - WeChat (Weixin in Chinese, pronounced *weishin*), which is also used for payments but also replaces WhatsApp. Unfortunately, to activate your account, you need someone who already has WeChat to sponsor you (preferably a Chinese person). We asked someone at our first accommodations to do this—no problem. By sharing your WeChat number with accommodations, they can send you messages that are automatically translated, and you can communicate with people thanks to the translation (translation to French is very poor; it’s much better in English, but unfortunately, WeChat detects your phone’s language). Alipay and WeChat are accepted almost everywhere, but some places only accept WeChat. - Amap, the international version of Baidu Maps, which replaces Google Maps (not at all up-to-date in China). The English names of hotels often have little to do with the Chinese names except for a phonetic resemblance. To find them on Amap, it’s best to copy the Chinese name found on your Trip reservation under "show address in Chinese." - A VPN. We had CyberGhost, which didn’t work, but according to other travelers, NordVPN and Windscribe do. Without a VPN, you can’t access Google services, on WhatsApp you can send and receive text but not photos, and you can’t send or receive emails on Gmail addresses. We managed without a VPN by using Firefox as a browser and Bing as a search engine. - Trip, for booking trains and accommodations, and buying some tickets. It’s the equivalent of Booking for accommodations, but Booking has very few listings in China, while Trip has hundreds in every city. Most hotels and trains are exchangeable and refundable until the day before, with no or minimal fees.
You don’t need contactless (NFC) payment on your phone. Either you scan a barcode and enter the amount to pay, or you display a barcode, and they scan it with a scanner, and the amount is deducted directly.
Upon arrival: - Buy a Chinese SIM card: 100 RMB for 300 GB of data and several hours of talk time (we didn’t use it). Set the Chinese number as a reference on Alipay, WeChat, and Amap. - Find someone to sponsor you on WeChat.
Transportation: - **Plane**: China Eastern, Paris-Canton then Canton-Urumqi on the way out, and Xian-Canton then Canton-Paris on the way back. International flights were smooth, but the schedules for the two domestic flights were changed. It was fine on the way out because we had some leeway, but on the way back, we were notified the morning of that our flight was canceled and replaced with one that didn’t allow for the connection. We called and changed to an earlier flight (I think we were lucky to find available seats). - **Train**: Most long distances were covered by high-speed trains (called D or G in China) at 240 or 300 km/h. Second class is perfect—just as comfortable and clean as our TGVs. The only advantage of first class is the wider seats for larger people, but the downside is that seats are often booked in advance and thus less available. You can book trains long in advance on Trip, but they only go on sale in China 15 days before departure, so that’s when you’ll know if you have a ticket. Initially, we booked first class, but there were no seats available on the day, so we ended up booking everything in second class, which was perfect. There’s no paper ticket—if you’ve bought one, you go to the station, show your passport, and enter. You do the same to access the platform 15 minutes before the train, and that’s it. Our train was canceled twice, but no problem—we went to the ticket counter, got a refund, and were offered a replacement. It didn’t delay us by more than an hour (maybe it would be harder in peak season). For prices, check Trip.com, but it’s significantly cheaper than in France. - **Bus**: We took the bus between Xining and Tongren, Tongren to Xiahe, and Hezuo to Lanzhou—about 3 hours each time for 200 km, 6 € per person, and departures were right on time. - **Taxi**: For trips between the station and hotel, or hotel and visits. If you take a Didi via the Alipay app, you activate your location, enter your destination, and it offers several taxis. You accept, and you get the car’s license plate and its real-time position on the map. When you get in, the driver often asks for the last four digits of your phone number to confirm. Otherwise, you go to the taxi stand outside the station. The price per kilometer is around 20 cents, so for a 30 km trip from the station to the hotel, you’ll pay about 6 €. We never tried to save more by taking local buses, but since the metro in Xian costs 25 cents per trip, it’s probably in the same ballpark. Amap provides public transport routes like Google Maps. - **Driver**: We hired a taxi/driver for the day several times for sightseeing. Prices ranged from 350 to 1,000 RMB (the most expensive was arranged through the Sofitel Xining concierge) for trips ranging from a few hours to a full day, sometimes covering over 300 km (see the detailed trip description).
Accommodations: All booked in advance on Trip, but several were changed during the trip. Off-season, there were no issues. We mostly stayed in upscale places, but in China, that means 50 to 60 € per night in the most central or convenient neighborhood. Note: Almost all hotels have a 5/5 rating on Trip, but it seems the Chinese avoid giving lower ratings to be polite. So, you have to read the comments to realize that in France, we might have given a 2 or 3!
Food: At the table, you’re served hot water or a hot infusion, presumably made with purified water. We never got sick from drinking it, but don’t drink tap water. Purified or mineral water is easy to find.
In restaurants, you can manage by pointing to the dish you want from another diner, on the wall where there are photos, or on the menu with pictures. The food in the region isn’t often spicy, and people usually ask or signal before adding the red spicy sauce, so you should be able to handle it if you don’t like chili at all.
The "fake old quarters" in several cities are great places to find all kinds of restaurants (see detailed trip below).
Like Google Maps, Amap can show you nearby restaurants.
Shopping: For dried fruits, buy them in Turfan—you won’t find the same variety and quality even in Xian. Generally, if you like something, buy it. If you wait, you might not find it outside the region where you are.
In Xian, there’s a "Tea City" where you can find all kinds of tea (from cheap to very expensive).
The trip in more detail: I won’t dwell on the beauty or interest of the sites here since that’s a matter of personal taste. However, I will do so for lesser-known places to give an idea to those who might be interested.
For many sites, there are shuttles (sometimes not included in the ticket price but costing around 1 €) that take you to the interesting spots. We always took them—it saves you from walking past countless shops or along uninteresting paths.
- **Urumqi**: We spent only one night there, arriving in the middle of the afternoon and leaving the next morning. We stayed at the Dana Hotel in the bazaar. Given the size of the city, it’s a good option because I don’t think there are many other interesting places. The bazaar is brand new and not at all "typical" (Turfan’s bazaar is infinitely more interesting), but the dining area is very nice.
- **Turfan**: Stayed at the New Dap Hostel, which was great. The neighborhood is nice, not far from the city, and easy to find food. The museum is closed until 2026 (Amap provides museum hours and closures). We took a day trip (for the two of us) with a driver to the Bezeklik Caves, Flaming Mountains, the abandoned city of Gaochang, the Tuyuk Village Museum, and the Emin Minaret for 500 RMB from 9 AM to 8 PM (arranged by the hostel). The landscape during the excursion was quite fabulous. We also visited the Karez Museum and the abandoned city of Jiaohe on our own the next day. At this time of year, the sun sets around 6 PM, and there’s often haze after 5 PM, so for Jiaohe, for example, which takes about 3 hours to visit, it’s best to be there by 1 or 2 PM at the latest.
The Dahua Market area is perfect for dried fruits (including the famous grapes), and you can eat there among locals in their traditional costumes. Next to it, there are buildings full of shops selling made-in-China items—it kept us busy for a good half-day, if not more.
- **Dunhuang**: Stayed in a guesthouse near the dunes—the city center isn’t far but seems quite artificial. Visited the dunes, with a ticket valid for 3 days. Lots of Chinese tourists—very typical and interesting from an ethnological perspective 😊. We got up early one morning to climb the highest dune, just beyond the one everyone goes to. It’s a bit long and tiring, but the view is worth it. Visited the Mogao Caves, buying the ticket on-site (no chance in season without booking in advance). We met two other French people and got a French-speaking guide (by pretending not to understand English). It was really worth it—a group of 4 instead of 20, and they took their time (2 hours) for the visit. We took a day trip to the Yulin Caves (2.5 hours by road and 160 km one way) with a driver for 350 RMB. We liked it a lot, but if the Mogao Caves are enough for you, it’s not very different.
- **Jiayuguan**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Wei and Jin tombs (actually just one)—that’s where we were told the taxi should wait to take us back to the city. We went down into a crypt with lots of decorated bricks from the 3rd century. We really liked it, but it’s not as spectacular as the fort if you’re not a fan. Visited the Jiayuguan Fort and, with the same ticket, climbed a small section of the Great Wall 10 km away. Plan at least 3 good hours for all this—there’s plenty to see.
- **Zhangye**: Stayed at The Silk Road Travelers Hostel, rustic but very nice and organizes excursions. Visited the Danxia (colored mountains)—just as spectacular as the photos. You can easily spend 3 hours there, so plan to finish before sunset to avoid the haze (you can always stay longer for the sunset if the weather’s nice). The next day, visited the Mati Si Temple in the cliff. The 10,000 Buddha Caves are under renovation, but the setting and the main temple are well worth the visit (the paths through the cliff tunnels must be hellish in peak season). You can probably organize these two excursions yourself by asking any taxi driver. Also visited the Giant Buddha Temple in the city center—really worth it.
- **Xining**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Tibetan Medicine Museum to see the world’s largest thangka (1 km long), made over 40 years by renowned artists. It’s absolutely magnificent, on par with the virtuosity (but over 1 km) of the thangkas painted by famous artists in Xiahe (see below). Hired a female taxi driver for the day to visit Kumbum Monastery (Ta’er Si in Chinese) and the Danxia area in Guide, 50 km beyond the monastery. It’s less spectacular than Zhangye’s Danxia, but we really liked it (including the journey’s landscape). The next day, visited the old Ming-era Qutan Monastery—no visitors, with beautiful murals (half under renovation). Accessible by train to Haidong or Ledu, then a taxi. Xining’s mosque is of no interest, but there’s a pedestrian street with food stalls nearby that’s very nice.
- **Tongren**: Stayed near the main monastery. Visited Longwu Monastery (several hours), with lots of nice shops along the street leading to it. Then visited Wutun Monastery, which is less lively but beautiful and close to thangka workshops. You can go in and watch the painters at work. For a thangka made by a renowned artist, count about a year of work for 1 m² and around 10,000 €.
- **Xiahe**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited Labrang Monastery—very nice but not as much as Tongren’s because many halls were closed. I think it’s better to go in season and take an English-guided tour (but it’s still worth the trip, even off-season).
- **Langmusi**: Took a taxi, but you can also take a bus (though very early in the morning and longer). Particularly beautiful for us because we woke up to bright sunshine and 5 cm of snow everywhere. Visited the two temples (really nice) and did the classic hike in the gorges starting at the Fairy Cave. For those interested, we continued along the canyon path, and after the meadow where marmots are clearly visible in summer, we climbed toward a pass on the left at 3,800 meters. The view of Langmusi and, above all, the vast grasslands and distant mountains was fabulous (3 hours round trip from the temple). You could probably reach the 4,000-meter summit by continuing up the valley instead of turning left, but according to guides, it’s better to count 7 hours round trip (no technical difficulty). You can leave Langmusi by bus, but off-season, you first have to take a taxi to a stop outside the city and wait for the bus. We didn’t try and took a taxi to Hezuo instead.
Note on this region: A high-speed train is under construction from Xining to Langmusi and beyond (never seen such an impressive construction site!). When it’s operational (in one or two years, I think), access to the area will be revolutionized, and perhaps some of the charm will be lost.
- **Hezuo**: Stopped on the way from Langmusi to Lanzhou. Visited the Milarepa Pagoda, entirely destroyed during the Cultural Revolution and since rebuilt. We liked it since we were passing through, but it doesn’t necessarily justify a long detour.
- **Lanzhou**: Reached by one of the many buses from Hezuo. Stayed in the "fake old quarter," which is extremely pleasant, especially in the evening with restaurants, groups of Chinese women dancing to loud music, etc. Visited Bingling Si with a driver, 120 km away—the landscape and site are absolutely magnificent, with no one around at our time of year. Visited the Gansu Museum (where the famous Flying Horse is, but it’s a replica). We bought the ticket on entry, but in season, you probably need to book in advance.
- **Yinchuan**: Stayed in the city center. A city we discovered by chance in the Lonely Planet—worth it if you have time. On the way, we stopped for a few hours in Zhongwei, where there’s an incredible Taoist temple (I’ll let you be surprised). Visited the Western Xia tombs—we took the short option, which visits Tomb 3. We think the others are similar but less impressive. The surrounding landscape and site are quite spectacular. Visited the film sets (really fun if you like Chinese movies), the short but interesting Ningxia Museum, and finally the modern art museum. The architecture is avant-garde, and there are some beautiful works (we like it, but it’s far from the center—hire a driver who waits, or you might have to wait for an employee to offer a ride back).
- **Tianshui**: Stayed in the suburbs, but you should find a hotel near the "fake old quarter" between the Fu Xi Temples and the Taoist temple—it’s a very nice area, and the two temples (especially the Taoist one) are within walking distance. Visited the Maijishan Caves—the ticket includes the shuttle to get there. Took a taxi from Lanzhou for about 10 € in 45 minutes. We found these caves fabulous.
- **Xi’an**: Stayed 500 meters from the Bell Tower at Hantang Inn—very convenient. We’d been before, so we didn’t revisit the Terracotta Army. The calligraphy district is worth it, as is the Muslim Quarter, though it’s very touristy. The area indicated on the Lonely Planet’s walking tour near the old fruit and vegetable market isn’t very interesting. To buy tea, you can go to the Northwest International Tea City, with dozens of shops. We chose one at random, tasted, and bought various teas. There’s everything from cheap to extremely expensive, but you can find reasonable prices even in seemingly luxurious shops. Along the street north of this area, there are large stores with tons of Chinese goods selling dishes, wedding items, etc. We spent hours there. In the city center, there are only malls with more or less international brands.
- **Longmen Grottoes**: Visited as a round trip by high-speed train from Xian—1 hour 15 minutes to Longmen’s high-speed train station, and the site entrance is 15 minutes by taxi.
We didn’t go to Mount Hua Shan, but there’s a high-speed train station nearby, and there were people on the train who were clearly going there. So, you can probably do this excursion in a day from Xian as well.
Conclusion: We hope this report makes you want to go or helps you if you’re already planning to. If you have questions that you can’t find the answer to by searching properly online and we can answer, don’t hesitate.
This trip report covers a journey along the Silk Road in China (see detailed description below) undertaken in October 2025. The goal isn’t to recount the trip but to provide information that might help those who want to take a similar journey. Much of the information is valid for any trip to China.
Who we are: a retired couple, aged 63 and 65 (age gives discounts on entry to various sites and museums in China, which is why I won’t list prices here—I don’t know them, but you can easily find them online). We’re used to traveling independently. We speak English, which is the only foreign language spoken in China, though by very few people. I speak and read a little Chinese, which helped, but you can easily get by without it (without any English at all, I think it would be more difficult).
Period: We arrived just after "Golden Week," when all of China is on vacation, and after the summer, when schools are out, so we encountered very few tourists (99.99% of whom were Chinese). Our experience with booking visits in advance (which we didn’t need to do) isn’t representative for those who want to travel in the summer! The October-November period was perfect for our trip—it wasn’t too hot or too cold (one day of snow on the Tibetan Plateau), though it was only a few degrees on the Tibetan part, with altitudes between 2,000 and 3,000 meters. The trees were beautifully colored.
General remarks: Everyone we dealt with was very kind and perfectly honest. If you order a meal without really understanding what to do and the person modifies your order, trust them—the result is what you need. If a taxi driver signals that they’ll wait for you to finish your visit and pick you up afterward, trust them. It means there aren’t many taxis where you are, and it’ll be more convenient. For prices at street vendors, we always found the right ballpark, and sometimes they even added a little extra to please us. A taxi driver treated us to lunch, and an employee drove us back to the hotel after a visit because there were no taxis. If you struggle to buy a ticket online because there’s no counter, someone will come to help. People even spontaneously ask if everything’s okay and if you need anything.
Everywhere we went was very clean, including restrooms (trains, stations, hotels, museums, tourist sites) and streets. The old stereotypes about this no longer apply.
The trip can be challenging for those who have difficulty walking. The distances to cover on foot in stations, to access sites, and within the sites themselves can sometimes be really long.
We used the Lonely Planet guide in English (published at the end of August 2025) a little for preparation, but mostly relied on the internet.
Before leaving: No visa is needed for French citizens for stays under 30 days. You get a stamp on your passport upon arrival and departure, and the formalities themselves are very quick in both directions (excluding any potential queues). Just a photo and fingerprints upon arrival, and welcome to China’s facial recognition system.
Money: All your payments (see below) will go through your Visa card—there will be hundreds, including many payments of 20 cents to a few euros. So, you need an international option that allows unlimited card transactions. Since cash is rarely needed, the allowed number of ATM withdrawals can be low. We made 3 withdrawals totaling 800 € for a month and could have managed with just 2. The exchange rate charged on our Visa card was 12 € for 100 RMB (yuan).
Install the following apps on your smartphone before leaving (otherwise, you’ll only have access to the Chinese versions, if available): - Alipay, which is used to pay everywhere in China (details below). You need to link it to your credit card, then provide proof of identity by uploading a passport photo and completing a facial recognition session. Alipay gives access to Didi (China’s Uber), public transport (metro/bus), and can also translate phrases. - WeChat (Weixin in Chinese, pronounced *weishin*), which is also used for payments but also replaces WhatsApp. Unfortunately, to activate your account, you need someone who already has WeChat to sponsor you (preferably a Chinese person). We asked someone at our first accommodations to do this—no problem. By sharing your WeChat number with accommodations, they can send you messages that are automatically translated, and you can communicate with people thanks to the translation (translation to French is very poor; it’s much better in English, but unfortunately, WeChat detects your phone’s language). Alipay and WeChat are accepted almost everywhere, but some places only accept WeChat. - Amap, the international version of Baidu Maps, which replaces Google Maps (not at all up-to-date in China). The English names of hotels often have little to do with the Chinese names except for a phonetic resemblance. To find them on Amap, it’s best to copy the Chinese name found on your Trip reservation under "show address in Chinese." - A VPN. We had CyberGhost, which didn’t work, but according to other travelers, NordVPN and Windscribe do. Without a VPN, you can’t access Google services, on WhatsApp you can send and receive text but not photos, and you can’t send or receive emails on Gmail addresses. We managed without a VPN by using Firefox as a browser and Bing as a search engine. - Trip, for booking trains and accommodations, and buying some tickets. It’s the equivalent of Booking for accommodations, but Booking has very few listings in China, while Trip has hundreds in every city. Most hotels and trains are exchangeable and refundable until the day before, with no or minimal fees.
You don’t need contactless (NFC) payment on your phone. Either you scan a barcode and enter the amount to pay, or you display a barcode, and they scan it with a scanner, and the amount is deducted directly.
Upon arrival: - Buy a Chinese SIM card: 100 RMB for 300 GB of data and several hours of talk time (we didn’t use it). Set the Chinese number as a reference on Alipay, WeChat, and Amap. - Find someone to sponsor you on WeChat.
Transportation: - **Plane**: China Eastern, Paris-Canton then Canton-Urumqi on the way out, and Xian-Canton then Canton-Paris on the way back. International flights were smooth, but the schedules for the two domestic flights were changed. It was fine on the way out because we had some leeway, but on the way back, we were notified the morning of that our flight was canceled and replaced with one that didn’t allow for the connection. We called and changed to an earlier flight (I think we were lucky to find available seats). - **Train**: Most long distances were covered by high-speed trains (called D or G in China) at 240 or 300 km/h. Second class is perfect—just as comfortable and clean as our TGVs. The only advantage of first class is the wider seats for larger people, but the downside is that seats are often booked in advance and thus less available. You can book trains long in advance on Trip, but they only go on sale in China 15 days before departure, so that’s when you’ll know if you have a ticket. Initially, we booked first class, but there were no seats available on the day, so we ended up booking everything in second class, which was perfect. There’s no paper ticket—if you’ve bought one, you go to the station, show your passport, and enter. You do the same to access the platform 15 minutes before the train, and that’s it. Our train was canceled twice, but no problem—we went to the ticket counter, got a refund, and were offered a replacement. It didn’t delay us by more than an hour (maybe it would be harder in peak season). For prices, check Trip.com, but it’s significantly cheaper than in France. - **Bus**: We took the bus between Xining and Tongren, Tongren to Xiahe, and Hezuo to Lanzhou—about 3 hours each time for 200 km, 6 € per person, and departures were right on time. - **Taxi**: For trips between the station and hotel, or hotel and visits. If you take a Didi via the Alipay app, you activate your location, enter your destination, and it offers several taxis. You accept, and you get the car’s license plate and its real-time position on the map. When you get in, the driver often asks for the last four digits of your phone number to confirm. Otherwise, you go to the taxi stand outside the station. The price per kilometer is around 20 cents, so for a 30 km trip from the station to the hotel, you’ll pay about 6 €. We never tried to save more by taking local buses, but since the metro in Xian costs 25 cents per trip, it’s probably in the same ballpark. Amap provides public transport routes like Google Maps. - **Driver**: We hired a taxi/driver for the day several times for sightseeing. Prices ranged from 350 to 1,000 RMB (the most expensive was arranged through the Sofitel Xining concierge) for trips ranging from a few hours to a full day, sometimes covering over 300 km (see the detailed trip description).
Accommodations: All booked in advance on Trip, but several were changed during the trip. Off-season, there were no issues. We mostly stayed in upscale places, but in China, that means 50 to 60 € per night in the most central or convenient neighborhood. Note: Almost all hotels have a 5/5 rating on Trip, but it seems the Chinese avoid giving lower ratings to be polite. So, you have to read the comments to realize that in France, we might have given a 2 or 3!
Food: At the table, you’re served hot water or a hot infusion, presumably made with purified water. We never got sick from drinking it, but don’t drink tap water. Purified or mineral water is easy to find.
In restaurants, you can manage by pointing to the dish you want from another diner, on the wall where there are photos, or on the menu with pictures. The food in the region isn’t often spicy, and people usually ask or signal before adding the red spicy sauce, so you should be able to handle it if you don’t like chili at all.
The "fake old quarters" in several cities are great places to find all kinds of restaurants (see detailed trip below).
Like Google Maps, Amap can show you nearby restaurants.
Shopping: For dried fruits, buy them in Turfan—you won’t find the same variety and quality even in Xian. Generally, if you like something, buy it. If you wait, you might not find it outside the region where you are.
In Xian, there’s a "Tea City" where you can find all kinds of tea (from cheap to very expensive).
The trip in more detail: I won’t dwell on the beauty or interest of the sites here since that’s a matter of personal taste. However, I will do so for lesser-known places to give an idea to those who might be interested.
For many sites, there are shuttles (sometimes not included in the ticket price but costing around 1 €) that take you to the interesting spots. We always took them—it saves you from walking past countless shops or along uninteresting paths.
- **Urumqi**: We spent only one night there, arriving in the middle of the afternoon and leaving the next morning. We stayed at the Dana Hotel in the bazaar. Given the size of the city, it’s a good option because I don’t think there are many other interesting places. The bazaar is brand new and not at all "typical" (Turfan’s bazaar is infinitely more interesting), but the dining area is very nice.
- **Turfan**: Stayed at the New Dap Hostel, which was great. The neighborhood is nice, not far from the city, and easy to find food. The museum is closed until 2026 (Amap provides museum hours and closures). We took a day trip (for the two of us) with a driver to the Bezeklik Caves, Flaming Mountains, the abandoned city of Gaochang, the Tuyuk Village Museum, and the Emin Minaret for 500 RMB from 9 AM to 8 PM (arranged by the hostel). The landscape during the excursion was quite fabulous. We also visited the Karez Museum and the abandoned city of Jiaohe on our own the next day. At this time of year, the sun sets around 6 PM, and there’s often haze after 5 PM, so for Jiaohe, for example, which takes about 3 hours to visit, it’s best to be there by 1 or 2 PM at the latest.
The Dahua Market area is perfect for dried fruits (including the famous grapes), and you can eat there among locals in their traditional costumes. Next to it, there are buildings full of shops selling made-in-China items—it kept us busy for a good half-day, if not more.
- **Dunhuang**: Stayed in a guesthouse near the dunes—the city center isn’t far but seems quite artificial. Visited the dunes, with a ticket valid for 3 days. Lots of Chinese tourists—very typical and interesting from an ethnological perspective 😊. We got up early one morning to climb the highest dune, just beyond the one everyone goes to. It’s a bit long and tiring, but the view is worth it. Visited the Mogao Caves, buying the ticket on-site (no chance in season without booking in advance). We met two other French people and got a French-speaking guide (by pretending not to understand English). It was really worth it—a group of 4 instead of 20, and they took their time (2 hours) for the visit. We took a day trip to the Yulin Caves (2.5 hours by road and 160 km one way) with a driver for 350 RMB. We liked it a lot, but if the Mogao Caves are enough for you, it’s not very different.
- **Jiayuguan**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Wei and Jin tombs (actually just one)—that’s where we were told the taxi should wait to take us back to the city. We went down into a crypt with lots of decorated bricks from the 3rd century. We really liked it, but it’s not as spectacular as the fort if you’re not a fan. Visited the Jiayuguan Fort and, with the same ticket, climbed a small section of the Great Wall 10 km away. Plan at least 3 good hours for all this—there’s plenty to see.
- **Zhangye**: Stayed at The Silk Road Travelers Hostel, rustic but very nice and organizes excursions. Visited the Danxia (colored mountains)—just as spectacular as the photos. You can easily spend 3 hours there, so plan to finish before sunset to avoid the haze (you can always stay longer for the sunset if the weather’s nice). The next day, visited the Mati Si Temple in the cliff. The 10,000 Buddha Caves are under renovation, but the setting and the main temple are well worth the visit (the paths through the cliff tunnels must be hellish in peak season). You can probably organize these two excursions yourself by asking any taxi driver. Also visited the Giant Buddha Temple in the city center—really worth it.
- **Xining**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited the Tibetan Medicine Museum to see the world’s largest thangka (1 km long), made over 40 years by renowned artists. It’s absolutely magnificent, on par with the virtuosity (but over 1 km) of the thangkas painted by famous artists in Xiahe (see below). Hired a female taxi driver for the day to visit Kumbum Monastery (Ta’er Si in Chinese) and the Danxia area in Guide, 50 km beyond the monastery. It’s less spectacular than Zhangye’s Danxia, but we really liked it (including the journey’s landscape). The next day, visited the old Ming-era Qutan Monastery—no visitors, with beautiful murals (half under renovation). Accessible by train to Haidong or Ledu, then a taxi. Xining’s mosque is of no interest, but there’s a pedestrian street with food stalls nearby that’s very nice.
- **Tongren**: Stayed near the main monastery. Visited Longwu Monastery (several hours), with lots of nice shops along the street leading to it. Then visited Wutun Monastery, which is less lively but beautiful and close to thangka workshops. You can go in and watch the painters at work. For a thangka made by a renowned artist, count about a year of work for 1 m² and around 10,000 €.
- **Xiahe**: Stayed in a city-center hotel. Visited Labrang Monastery—very nice but not as much as Tongren’s because many halls were closed. I think it’s better to go in season and take an English-guided tour (but it’s still worth the trip, even off-season).
- **Langmusi**: Took a taxi, but you can also take a bus (though very early in the morning and longer). Particularly beautiful for us because we woke up to bright sunshine and 5 cm of snow everywhere. Visited the two temples (really nice) and did the classic hike in the gorges starting at the Fairy Cave. For those interested, we continued along the canyon path, and after the meadow where marmots are clearly visible in summer, we climbed toward a pass on the left at 3,800 meters. The view of Langmusi and, above all, the vast grasslands and distant mountains was fabulous (3 hours round trip from the temple). You could probably reach the 4,000-meter summit by continuing up the valley instead of turning left, but according to guides, it’s better to count 7 hours round trip (no technical difficulty). You can leave Langmusi by bus, but off-season, you first have to take a taxi to a stop outside the city and wait for the bus. We didn’t try and took a taxi to Hezuo instead.
Note on this region: A high-speed train is under construction from Xining to Langmusi and beyond (never seen such an impressive construction site!). When it’s operational (in one or two years, I think), access to the area will be revolutionized, and perhaps some of the charm will be lost.
- **Hezuo**: Stopped on the way from Langmusi to Lanzhou. Visited the Milarepa Pagoda, entirely destroyed during the Cultural Revolution and since rebuilt. We liked it since we were passing through, but it doesn’t necessarily justify a long detour.
- **Lanzhou**: Reached by one of the many buses from Hezuo. Stayed in the "fake old quarter," which is extremely pleasant, especially in the evening with restaurants, groups of Chinese women dancing to loud music, etc. Visited Bingling Si with a driver, 120 km away—the landscape and site are absolutely magnificent, with no one around at our time of year. Visited the Gansu Museum (where the famous Flying Horse is, but it’s a replica). We bought the ticket on entry, but in season, you probably need to book in advance.
- **Yinchuan**: Stayed in the city center. A city we discovered by chance in the Lonely Planet—worth it if you have time. On the way, we stopped for a few hours in Zhongwei, where there’s an incredible Taoist temple (I’ll let you be surprised). Visited the Western Xia tombs—we took the short option, which visits Tomb 3. We think the others are similar but less impressive. The surrounding landscape and site are quite spectacular. Visited the film sets (really fun if you like Chinese movies), the short but interesting Ningxia Museum, and finally the modern art museum. The architecture is avant-garde, and there are some beautiful works (we like it, but it’s far from the center—hire a driver who waits, or you might have to wait for an employee to offer a ride back).
- **Tianshui**: Stayed in the suburbs, but you should find a hotel near the "fake old quarter" between the Fu Xi Temples and the Taoist temple—it’s a very nice area, and the two temples (especially the Taoist one) are within walking distance. Visited the Maijishan Caves—the ticket includes the shuttle to get there. Took a taxi from Lanzhou for about 10 € in 45 minutes. We found these caves fabulous.
- **Xi’an**: Stayed 500 meters from the Bell Tower at Hantang Inn—very convenient. We’d been before, so we didn’t revisit the Terracotta Army. The calligraphy district is worth it, as is the Muslim Quarter, though it’s very touristy. The area indicated on the Lonely Planet’s walking tour near the old fruit and vegetable market isn’t very interesting. To buy tea, you can go to the Northwest International Tea City, with dozens of shops. We chose one at random, tasted, and bought various teas. There’s everything from cheap to extremely expensive, but you can find reasonable prices even in seemingly luxurious shops. Along the street north of this area, there are large stores with tons of Chinese goods selling dishes, wedding items, etc. We spent hours there. In the city center, there are only malls with more or less international brands.
- **Longmen Grottoes**: Visited as a round trip by high-speed train from Xian—1 hour 15 minutes to Longmen’s high-speed train station, and the site entrance is 15 minutes by taxi.
We didn’t go to Mount Hua Shan, but there’s a high-speed train station nearby, and there were people on the train who were clearly going there. So, you can probably do this excursion in a day from Xian as well.
Conclusion: We hope this report makes you want to go or helps you if you’re already planning to. If you have questions that you can’t find the answer to by searching properly online and we can answer, don’t hesitate.
Bonjour à tous,
Je réfléchis déjà à notre prochain voyage en famille en 2019. La Chine nous attire beaucoup pour la diversité des paysages. En quelques mots, nous sommes une famille de 4 avec nos deux filles qui auront 19 et 17 ans, les découvertes des paysages et de la faune sont nos centres d'intérêts principaux, mais nous aimons également découvrir la culture du pays. Pas le choix pour la période, cela sera juillet ou août... impossible sinon de partir 3 semaines d'affilée et je pense que c'est un minimum pour un premier voyage !
Voici la première ébauche d'itinéraire :
3 nuits Pékin, transfert à Xi'an en train (Grande muraille, cité interdite, etc) 2 nuits Xi'an, transfert à Chengdu en train (armée souterraine, vieille ville, etc) 3 nuits Chengdu, transfert à Lijiang en avion (Bouddha Leshan, Dujiangyan pour les pandas) 2 nuits Lijiang, transfert à Dali en voiture, taxi possible ? (Blue Moon Valley, etc) 2 nuits Dali, transfert à Kunming en train (Lac Erhai, temple, village Xizjou) 1 nuit Kunming, transfert à Guilin en avion, (forêt de pierres) 2 nuits Guilin (rizières Longji, village Pingan, croisière jusqu'à Yangshuo sur la rivière Li) 3 nuits Yangshuo (ou autre ?) visite tranquille de la région (colline des couleurs accumulée, radeau, etc)
Ensuite, je ne sais pas... soit
3 nuits Shanghaï ou 3 nuits Hong Kong
ou encore
2 nuits Zhangjiajie (ça serait super !) 3 nuits Shanghaï
Là cela ferait 23 nuits, c'est possible dans le planning. Zhangjiajie a l'air magnifique mais je n'arrive pas à savoir si c'est possible. et comment y aller ! Est-ce que ce parcours serait imaginable sans passer par une agence ? J'ai demandé un devis et c'est vraiment très cher... nous avons l'habitude d'organiser nos vacances par nous-mêmes, mais là, il me semble que c'est plus compliqué que pour d'autres pays.
Un grand merci pour votre aide et avis. Bonne journée à tous.
Je réfléchis déjà à notre prochain voyage en famille en 2019. La Chine nous attire beaucoup pour la diversité des paysages. En quelques mots, nous sommes une famille de 4 avec nos deux filles qui auront 19 et 17 ans, les découvertes des paysages et de la faune sont nos centres d'intérêts principaux, mais nous aimons également découvrir la culture du pays. Pas le choix pour la période, cela sera juillet ou août... impossible sinon de partir 3 semaines d'affilée et je pense que c'est un minimum pour un premier voyage !
Voici la première ébauche d'itinéraire :
3 nuits Pékin, transfert à Xi'an en train (Grande muraille, cité interdite, etc) 2 nuits Xi'an, transfert à Chengdu en train (armée souterraine, vieille ville, etc) 3 nuits Chengdu, transfert à Lijiang en avion (Bouddha Leshan, Dujiangyan pour les pandas) 2 nuits Lijiang, transfert à Dali en voiture, taxi possible ? (Blue Moon Valley, etc) 2 nuits Dali, transfert à Kunming en train (Lac Erhai, temple, village Xizjou) 1 nuit Kunming, transfert à Guilin en avion, (forêt de pierres) 2 nuits Guilin (rizières Longji, village Pingan, croisière jusqu'à Yangshuo sur la rivière Li) 3 nuits Yangshuo (ou autre ?) visite tranquille de la région (colline des couleurs accumulée, radeau, etc)
Ensuite, je ne sais pas... soit
3 nuits Shanghaï ou 3 nuits Hong Kong
ou encore
2 nuits Zhangjiajie (ça serait super !) 3 nuits Shanghaï
Là cela ferait 23 nuits, c'est possible dans le planning. Zhangjiajie a l'air magnifique mais je n'arrive pas à savoir si c'est possible. et comment y aller ! Est-ce que ce parcours serait imaginable sans passer par une agence ? J'ai demandé un devis et c'est vraiment très cher... nous avons l'habitude d'organiser nos vacances par nous-mêmes, mais là, il me semble que c'est plus compliqué que pour d'autres pays.
Un grand merci pour votre aide et avis. Bonne journée à tous.
Tous ne voyagent pas pareil.
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Bonjour,
J'aurias voulu avoir beaucoup plus d'infos concernant le plus grand pont du monde reliant Hong Kong à Macao. Inauguration, ouverture prévu normalement en juin ou juillet et savoir comment ca va marcher exactement est ce que les taxis pourront l’emprunter et savoir les tarifs.
J'aurias voulu avoir beaucoup plus d'infos concernant le plus grand pont du monde reliant Hong Kong à Macao. Inauguration, ouverture prévu normalement en juin ou juillet et savoir comment ca va marcher exactement est ce que les taxis pourront l’emprunter et savoir les tarifs.
Bonjour,
Qelles solutions pour faire le trajet Chengdu/Kunming.
Avec mes remerciements Ludi
Avec mes remerciements Ludi
Préparant un voyage en Chine, arrivée par Shanghai retour par Canton, je souhaite passer quelques jours dans ces 2 villes.
Or le prix des hôtels dans ces métropoles est très considérablement plus cher qu'ailleurs (des prix parfois presque « parisiens »).
A mon grand étonnement je viens de constater que AirBnB y propose des chambres chez l'habitant à des tarifs très inférieurs à ceux des hôtels.
J’ajoute que voir de plus près le cadre de vie de cette upper-middle-class urbaine est une expérience tentante.
Certains d'entre vous ont-ils déjà test cette solution ?
Merci d'avance
hi there
we’re planning a 4-week trip in March—
have any of you been to one of these three regions in March? Any feedback on weather, prices, or other tips?
We’re used to renting a scooter in Asia to explore for 3 or 4 days at a time— is it possible to rent a scooter in these regions?
Thanks so much for your advice!
philippe
We’re used to renting a scooter in Asia to explore for 3 or 4 days at a time— is it possible to rent a scooter in these regions?
Thanks so much for your advice!
philippe
Hi there.
We’re planning a month in November to visit several places in China.
This time, though, we’d like to do it with a car and driver (unlike our last trip to Sichuan, where we went on our own).
Thanks in advance and have a great day! !
Thanks in advance and have a great day! !
Bonjour
Je suis déjà allée au Sichuan mais....c'était en 1995!!! Je projette d'y retourner une petite semaine en septembre de cette année. J'ai déjà vu le bouddha de Leshan mais je compte y retourner pour le montrer à une amie. Sinon qu'y aurait-il de sympa à faire aux alentours de Chengdu et qui ne soit pas envahi de touristes occidentaux🙂Je parle chinois donc les touristes chinois ne me gênent pas du tout😉quoique si un endroit est accessible assez facilement et qu'il n'y ait que nous comme touristes....je suis aussi preneuse!
Par ailleurs j'ai regardé les tarifs des vols Beijing-Chengdu aller-retour.....c'est aussi cher que le vol aller-retour France-Chine🤪 A moins que quelqu'un ait une combine pour payer moins cher (bien moins cher!!!) j'envisagerais alors ce même trajet en train, ça peut être sympa non?
En 1995 de la ville de Leshan il y avait des petites embarcations pour aller jusqu'au bouddha, je suppose que c'est encore possible...
Autre chose (j'amortis mon message!!) y a-t-il des bus, des cars etc..qui fassent "Chengdu-Leshan" dans la journée?
Merci pour toute information relative aux différentes interrogations soulevées!😎
Bonjour,
Comment aller de Jinghong à Dali ? Le prix des billets d'avion vu de France me semble exhorbitant. En bus de nuit est-ce possible et sans danger ( état des routes )?
Merci pour vos réponses
Bonjour,
Je dois partir en Chine d'ici plusieurs mois , je devrais en ramener un reportage réalisé auprès de gens éparses dans le pays, auprès de qui je ne serais pas forcément introduite; est il possible de prendre contact directement avec des gens qu'on ne connait pas sur place, ou est ce que ça pose un pbleme culturel svp?
Est il possible de voyager en Chine en solo, zones reculées comprises sans traducteur si l'on est pas sinologue svp?
Et enfin si il y a nécessité d'avoir un traducteur, où le recruter et autour de quels tarifs svp?
En vous remerciant 🙂
Je dois partir en Chine d'ici plusieurs mois , je devrais en ramener un reportage réalisé auprès de gens éparses dans le pays, auprès de qui je ne serais pas forcément introduite; est il possible de prendre contact directement avec des gens qu'on ne connait pas sur place, ou est ce que ça pose un pbleme culturel svp?
Est il possible de voyager en Chine en solo, zones reculées comprises sans traducteur si l'on est pas sinologue svp?
Et enfin si il y a nécessité d'avoir un traducteur, où le recruter et autour de quels tarifs svp?
En vous remerciant 🙂
Bonjour, notre voyage en Chine approche , même si encore quelques mois d attente ....
Nous allons être le 25 octobre sur Datong , pour faire les deux sites importants , le temple suspendue et les grottes de yuangang, je sais que les deux sites sont à l opposé l’un de l autre mais je me dis que sur une journee cela peut se faire’, d autant que nous n’avons notre train qu en fin de journée, ce sera une journée chargée mais on se reposera sur les suivantes ....
Est ce que quelqu un peut me donner des pistes pour avoir un tarif correct pour un chauffeur à la journee , j ai eu un devis d’une agence et cela dépasse les 200 euros , 1650 yuans cela me paraît cher.... est ce les tarifs, sachant que nous sommes deux ???
Je crois qu’avec les transports locaux nous allons perdre trop de temps. Je veux bien partager avec d autres voyageurs intéressés si besoin.....
Donnez moi vos avis et expériences, j attends tout ça avec impatience.
Myriam
Bonjour ,
Je viens demander vos avis sur un devis d'une agence locale francophone pour notre premier voyage en Chine où nous prévoyons un circuit privé (voiture avec chauffeur et guide ) en juin/juillet pour une durée de 12 jours . Le parcours est comme suit : pekin-luoyang-shaolin-guilin-yangshuo-shanghai-suzhou .
cette agence nous a demandé 3200 euros avec un van de 7 places et nous sommes un couple + un enfant . Ce devis comprend uniquement les transferts , les déplacements , 3 trajets en TGV et un vol pour 3 personnes , l'entrée des sites . sont exclus les hotels , les repas et les activités. Je voulais donc vous demander si ce tarif vous semble correct ?
Par le même occasion si vous avez des conseils ou bons plans , je suis preneuse. Merci à vous toutes et tous. Cordialement
Je viens demander vos avis sur un devis d'une agence locale francophone pour notre premier voyage en Chine où nous prévoyons un circuit privé (voiture avec chauffeur et guide ) en juin/juillet pour une durée de 12 jours . Le parcours est comme suit : pekin-luoyang-shaolin-guilin-yangshuo-shanghai-suzhou .
cette agence nous a demandé 3200 euros avec un van de 7 places et nous sommes un couple + un enfant . Ce devis comprend uniquement les transferts , les déplacements , 3 trajets en TGV et un vol pour 3 personnes , l'entrée des sites . sont exclus les hotels , les repas et les activités. Je voulais donc vous demander si ce tarif vous semble correct ?
Par le même occasion si vous avez des conseils ou bons plans , je suis preneuse. Merci à vous toutes et tous. Cordialement
bonjour,
quel est le meilleur moyen pour rejoindre le centre recherche des pandas au départ de chengdu. ainsi que le meilleur moyen pour aller au mont Qingcheng toujours au départ de chengdu
merci ludi
quel est le meilleur moyen pour rejoindre le centre recherche des pandas au départ de chengdu. ainsi que le meilleur moyen pour aller au mont Qingcheng toujours au départ de chengdu
merci ludi
Bonjour,
Qui peut me donner le coût moyen mensuel en Chine. Logement très sommaire, pas de grands restaurants, pas de dépenses inutiles mais visite de tous les sites et monuments.
Merci
Bonsoir à tous
Nous devons arriver à Guilin le 25 septembre 2017 dans l'apmidi. je crois qu'il y a plusieurs bus pour Yangshuo dans l'apmidi.
Je me demandais s'il était plus judicieux (et plus sympa) d'aller directement à Dazhai depuis Guilin et y séjourner 6 nuits, ou bien séjourner à Yangshuo et de là aller à Dazhai pour la journée ou éventuellement journée + 1 nuit à Dazhai. Est-ce possible de faire Yangshuo Dazhai en bus et en combien de temps? sinon en taxi connaissez-vous les tarifs?
Pour résumer:Gulin-Dazhai possible ou non? Yangshuo-Dazhai possible ou non? Si je reste à Yangshuo je pensais jeter mon dévolu sur le Riverside retreat hotel...bonne ou mauvaise idée? ( niveau prix c'est pas mal surtout que je partage ma chambre et les frais afférents avec une amie) Si quelqu'un y a déjà séjourné, y a-t-il une chambre à tel ou tel étage ou autre à demander? Et pour finir, je sais que cela peut être très subjectif, mais que choisir entre séjour Yangshuo et balades vélos aux alentours ou bien Dazhai et balades aux alentours? le plus beau?
Merci d'avance.
Pour résumer:Gulin-Dazhai possible ou non? Yangshuo-Dazhai possible ou non? Si je reste à Yangshuo je pensais jeter mon dévolu sur le Riverside retreat hotel...bonne ou mauvaise idée? ( niveau prix c'est pas mal surtout que je partage ma chambre et les frais afférents avec une amie) Si quelqu'un y a déjà séjourné, y a-t-il une chambre à tel ou tel étage ou autre à demander? Et pour finir, je sais que cela peut être très subjectif, mais que choisir entre séjour Yangshuo et balades vélos aux alentours ou bien Dazhai et balades aux alentours? le plus beau?
Merci d'avance.
We’ve just returned from a 30-day trip to China, 20 years after our last visit to this vast country.
What a transformation! So many new highways, high-speed trains, clean public restrooms, very comfortable and affordable hotels, and queues before boarding public transport… Has China really changed this much?
Language Technology has helped overcome—on a very small scale, of course—the language barrier thanks to translation apps on our phones. Unfortunately, very few Chinese people speak English, even in international hotels, which we find baffling, even frustrating, but that’s just how it is, and it’s up to us to adapt. It’s a shame, too, because no one makes an effort to communicate any other way than through their phone, which wasn’t the case when we were there 20 years ago. In restaurants, hotels, and some shops, they’ll show you a voice translation—usually in English—on a phone, and all you have to do is respond.
Payments We never withdrew cash in China. It’s possible to do so, but we never looked for an ATM. On the other hand, we tried to exchange 100 € as soon as we arrived in Xi’an, and it was a real ordeal. We had to do it at a specific bank, The Bank of China, and the administrative process took… an hour! So, no cash. Like everyone else, we used Alipay, one of the most popular online payment systems, and it’s super easy to use. WeChat also works well but is a bit more complicated to set up. It’s so convenient and used absolutely everywhere, even for purchases of 5 yuan, which is roughly the equivalent of about 55 euro cents. 10 yuan equals 1.22 €.
Phone As for the internet, I had installed a VPN before leaving—Let’s VPN—but it was completely useless since we had subscribed to an international plan with our carrier before the trip, which gave us 35 GB of data. No need to ask hotels for Wi-Fi; we only used roaming. It worked perfectly, no matter where we were. So, no VPN or SIM card for us.
TWO ESSENTIAL TOOLS FOR TRAVELING: your passport and your phone Traveling to China is much simpler than you might think. And let’s add that the Chinese, despite the language barrier, are very open and always ready to help.
The itinerary After carefully planning our route and considering the length of our stay (I had initially thought about applying for a visa longer than 30 days to stay for 6 weeks in China), we decided to take advantage of the recent option to stay for 30 days. Of course, we had to make some choices. I booked a one-way ticket from Paris to Xi’an and a return from Kunming to Paris once the itinerary was set: 9 days in northern Gansu 4 days in Hunan, specifically the well-known Zhangjiajie 15 days in Yunnan
Organization, transport, hotels This wasn’t a "backpacker" trip, as the hotels we booked were generally comfortable. I had arranged a car with a driver for the Yunnan portion through the Ciel Yunnan agency. Excellent choice—it allowed us to optimize our route. For the Gansu and Hunan portions, after much deliberation, we decided against hiring a driver. All our travel was by train and taxi. Taxis are available near train stations, airports, and some hotels in big cities. We also used "Didi," the Chinese equivalent of Uber. The app is available through Alipay. Getting around China by train is extremely easy. You just need to book your tickets on a travel site. I used trip.com and travelchina. Since we weren’t traveling during peak season, it was easy to get the tickets we wanted. You can buy train tickets up to 15 days before departure. You can book earlier, but there’s no guarantee you’ll get the time you want, especially during tourist seasons (usually the first week of October or May). Once at the station, you only need to show your passport, and you’ll need it again when leaving the station. Taxis are easy to find and not expensive. For day trips, we usually went through the hotel. Like everyone else, I had checked the prices of online tour agencies beforehand, and they were all overpriced. It’s better to wait until the last minute or, if possible, contact the hotel and ask them. I did this twice. We took domestic flights three times: Xi’an to Dunhuang Lanzhou to Changsha Changsha to Lijiang It’s best to buy flights shortly before departure, as prices are quite low then. There’s no point in booking months in advance. Often, flights only appear 2 months before departure. All hotel reservations were made on trip.com, except for three booked on Booking. Almost all exceeded our expectations in terms of comfort. Rooms were usually spacious, and new technology even makes its way into the rooms with "smart" toilets and automatic curtains… All for a very reasonable price.
The "attractions" That’s the term used on travel sites like trip.com for visits and activities, and it fits perfectly! Don’t expect to move freely around a natural tourist site. Cars aren’t allowed. The process is more or less the same everywhere: you arrive at the visitor center, pay the entrance fee, then, with your ticket or passport (always keep them on you!), you board a bus that takes you to the various viewpoints. The duration of the "tour" is usually indicated. It might seem confusing or even unnatural, but no one can avoid it unless you go to very remote, non-touristy places. Generally, the further west you go, the less this type of visit exists. The upside is that these places are better preserved since access is only by electric shuttle. On the downside, you sometimes have to deal with noisy tourist groups, their guides’ loudspeakers, and their non-stop chatter. But if you move a little further away, you’ll often find yourself alone.
Highlights of this trip:🙂 A 2-day escape to the Badan Jaran Desert—absolutely stunning. The colorful mountains near Zhangye. The Buddhist caves in Gansu. The breathtaking Hani and Yi rice terraces in Yuanyang. The architecture of the old towns, even if they sometimes feel a bit overdone. The warm welcome from the locals.
A little disappointed by: Zhangjiajie, despite its beauty. It was way too crowded, even though we were there in the off-season. And that’s nothing compared to the Stone Forest near Kunming… I also struggled with the food after a while. 😕
A few photos to come…
Language Technology has helped overcome—on a very small scale, of course—the language barrier thanks to translation apps on our phones. Unfortunately, very few Chinese people speak English, even in international hotels, which we find baffling, even frustrating, but that’s just how it is, and it’s up to us to adapt. It’s a shame, too, because no one makes an effort to communicate any other way than through their phone, which wasn’t the case when we were there 20 years ago. In restaurants, hotels, and some shops, they’ll show you a voice translation—usually in English—on a phone, and all you have to do is respond.
Payments We never withdrew cash in China. It’s possible to do so, but we never looked for an ATM. On the other hand, we tried to exchange 100 € as soon as we arrived in Xi’an, and it was a real ordeal. We had to do it at a specific bank, The Bank of China, and the administrative process took… an hour! So, no cash. Like everyone else, we used Alipay, one of the most popular online payment systems, and it’s super easy to use. WeChat also works well but is a bit more complicated to set up. It’s so convenient and used absolutely everywhere, even for purchases of 5 yuan, which is roughly the equivalent of about 55 euro cents. 10 yuan equals 1.22 €.
Phone As for the internet, I had installed a VPN before leaving—Let’s VPN—but it was completely useless since we had subscribed to an international plan with our carrier before the trip, which gave us 35 GB of data. No need to ask hotels for Wi-Fi; we only used roaming. It worked perfectly, no matter where we were. So, no VPN or SIM card for us.
TWO ESSENTIAL TOOLS FOR TRAVELING: your passport and your phone Traveling to China is much simpler than you might think. And let’s add that the Chinese, despite the language barrier, are very open and always ready to help.
The itinerary After carefully planning our route and considering the length of our stay (I had initially thought about applying for a visa longer than 30 days to stay for 6 weeks in China), we decided to take advantage of the recent option to stay for 30 days. Of course, we had to make some choices. I booked a one-way ticket from Paris to Xi’an and a return from Kunming to Paris once the itinerary was set: 9 days in northern Gansu 4 days in Hunan, specifically the well-known Zhangjiajie 15 days in Yunnan
Organization, transport, hotels This wasn’t a "backpacker" trip, as the hotels we booked were generally comfortable. I had arranged a car with a driver for the Yunnan portion through the Ciel Yunnan agency. Excellent choice—it allowed us to optimize our route. For the Gansu and Hunan portions, after much deliberation, we decided against hiring a driver. All our travel was by train and taxi. Taxis are available near train stations, airports, and some hotels in big cities. We also used "Didi," the Chinese equivalent of Uber. The app is available through Alipay. Getting around China by train is extremely easy. You just need to book your tickets on a travel site. I used trip.com and travelchina. Since we weren’t traveling during peak season, it was easy to get the tickets we wanted. You can buy train tickets up to 15 days before departure. You can book earlier, but there’s no guarantee you’ll get the time you want, especially during tourist seasons (usually the first week of October or May). Once at the station, you only need to show your passport, and you’ll need it again when leaving the station. Taxis are easy to find and not expensive. For day trips, we usually went through the hotel. Like everyone else, I had checked the prices of online tour agencies beforehand, and they were all overpriced. It’s better to wait until the last minute or, if possible, contact the hotel and ask them. I did this twice. We took domestic flights three times: Xi’an to Dunhuang Lanzhou to Changsha Changsha to Lijiang It’s best to buy flights shortly before departure, as prices are quite low then. There’s no point in booking months in advance. Often, flights only appear 2 months before departure. All hotel reservations were made on trip.com, except for three booked on Booking. Almost all exceeded our expectations in terms of comfort. Rooms were usually spacious, and new technology even makes its way into the rooms with "smart" toilets and automatic curtains… All for a very reasonable price.
The "attractions" That’s the term used on travel sites like trip.com for visits and activities, and it fits perfectly! Don’t expect to move freely around a natural tourist site. Cars aren’t allowed. The process is more or less the same everywhere: you arrive at the visitor center, pay the entrance fee, then, with your ticket or passport (always keep them on you!), you board a bus that takes you to the various viewpoints. The duration of the "tour" is usually indicated. It might seem confusing or even unnatural, but no one can avoid it unless you go to very remote, non-touristy places. Generally, the further west you go, the less this type of visit exists. The upside is that these places are better preserved since access is only by electric shuttle. On the downside, you sometimes have to deal with noisy tourist groups, their guides’ loudspeakers, and their non-stop chatter. But if you move a little further away, you’ll often find yourself alone.
Highlights of this trip:🙂 A 2-day escape to the Badan Jaran Desert—absolutely stunning. The colorful mountains near Zhangye. The Buddhist caves in Gansu. The breathtaking Hani and Yi rice terraces in Yuanyang. The architecture of the old towns, even if they sometimes feel a bit overdone. The warm welcome from the locals.
A little disappointed by: Zhangjiajie, despite its beauty. It was way too crowded, even though we were there in the off-season. And that’s nothing compared to the Stone Forest near Kunming… I also struggled with the food after a while. 😕
A few photos to come…
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
Bonjour,
Je cherche un guide au Xianjiang pour m'aider à traverser la frontière avec mon propre véhicule. J'ai déjà passé des heures à lire les forum/facebook and co, disant qu'il faut passer par une agence et blablabla. Seulement voilà, je suis du genre tétu ... Quelqu'un aurai un contact, mail, téléphone, peut-importe, dans la contrée du Xianjiang qui pourrait me donner un coup de mains ? Merci d'avance,
Je cherche un guide au Xianjiang pour m'aider à traverser la frontière avec mon propre véhicule. J'ai déjà passé des heures à lire les forum/facebook and co, disant qu'il faut passer par une agence et blablabla. Seulement voilà, je suis du genre tétu ... Quelqu'un aurai un contact, mail, téléphone, peut-importe, dans la contrée du Xianjiang qui pourrait me donner un coup de mains ? Merci d'avance,
bonjour,
Je viens de passer un mois ( été 2018) dans le sud de la Chine en particulier grâce aux conseils avisés de membres de la communauté.
Je suis aussi professeur de mathématiques avec en particulier cette année une 6° Coop ( pour coopération entre professeurs et élèves).
Et j'envisage de les emmener en fin de collège (quand ils seront en 3°, donc printemps 2022) en Chine avec comme principal projet : une aventure humaine à la rencontre d'une civilisation millénaire qu'on conduirait ensemble sur toute ces année.
Et donc ma première interrogation : comment acheter des billets les moins chers possible ( j'avais eu un AR marseille-Pékin pour 400€ ) pour 24 élèves et 3 ou 4 accompagnateurs.
Ce n'est que la première pierre de ce long chemin sachant que le principal obstacle ne sera pas à mon avis le montant total mais l'accord des parents pour un voyage aussi lointain.
Et si vous savez comment on fait pour les visas je suis aussi preneur.
Merci d'avance pour vos conseils et retour d'expériences.
Dominique
Bonjour,
Je compte me rendre en Chine à Xi'an (en ayant mon visa Chinois une entrée), j'aimerai par la suite prendre le train pour Lhassa, avec tout ce que j'ai lu et si j'ai bien compris, il me faut un permis pour y aller et m'inscrire avec un tour opérateur pour pouvoir visiter cette région. Mes questions sont les suivantes : Comment je peux faire quand je suis à Xi'an pour pouvoir organiser cela, y a t il des agences sur place ou bien dois je m'y prendre à l'avance avec une agence localisée au Tibet. Après avoir visiter le Tibet, vu que j'ai un visa une entrée, puis je retourner en Chine ou bien me faut il un visa multi entrées. Avez vous des agences à me conseiller et des sites pour les billets de train. Merci d'avance.
Je compte me rendre en Chine à Xi'an (en ayant mon visa Chinois une entrée), j'aimerai par la suite prendre le train pour Lhassa, avec tout ce que j'ai lu et si j'ai bien compris, il me faut un permis pour y aller et m'inscrire avec un tour opérateur pour pouvoir visiter cette région. Mes questions sont les suivantes : Comment je peux faire quand je suis à Xi'an pour pouvoir organiser cela, y a t il des agences sur place ou bien dois je m'y prendre à l'avance avec une agence localisée au Tibet. Après avoir visiter le Tibet, vu que j'ai un visa une entrée, puis je retourner en Chine ou bien me faut il un visa multi entrées. Avez vous des agences à me conseiller et des sites pour les billets de train. Merci d'avance.
Bonjour,
Je viens de prendre mes billets d'avions et je vais en Chine du 19 octobre au 8 novembre 2018, je sais: ce n'est pas demain, mais je rêve déjà....
J'ai commencé a regarder via les forums et autres blog, un itinéraire pour voir un peu de ville et surtout un peu de campagne, nous partons a deux et nous privilégions le transport en train ( de nuit de préférence), et bus( même si je n'ai pas trouvé grand chose dessus a part que c'est très long....) Nous arrivons sur pékin pour 4 jours, ensuite de pékin le train pour Datong et ensuite train pour Pingyao, je pense y passer une journée complète ( Est ce qu'une journée suffit??? ) et une nuit avant de repartir pour Xian toujours en train. Xian je ne sais pas si c'est une ville ou s'attarder? a part faire la visite de l'armée enterrée, et rapidement la ville est ce suffisant? en fait nous avons surtout l'idée d'aller a Guilin en passant par le site de Zhangjieaje qui apparemment est très beau, mais je n'arrive pas a réellement trouver des trajets possibles de Xian, toujours en train sans que cela me fasse des heures ( 26 heures de train) est ce possible de faire autrement sans que cela nous coute trop cher? est ce que vous avez des idées de visites intéressantes dans cette région , en sachant que notre périple se termine sur Shanghai ( 3 jours) et que nous avions l'idée de remonter par Wuhan (de Guilin) faire un arrêt d'une journée et une nuit pour couper le trajet avant d'arriver a notre point de retour Shanghai ou je compte 3 jours.
Je ne sais pas si je suis claire mais j'ai besoin de toutes vos lumières et de vos expériences qui je le sais me seront très utile.
Juste une chose aussi: nous aimerions profiter de notre séjour pour participer a un cours de cuisine authentique traditionnelle, qu'importe ou mais que ce soit riche en découverte culinaire. Donc la aussi si vous avez des plans, je prends.
Je vous remercie d'avance pour le temps que vous allez prendre pour me répondre.
Myriam
Je viens de prendre mes billets d'avions et je vais en Chine du 19 octobre au 8 novembre 2018, je sais: ce n'est pas demain, mais je rêve déjà....
J'ai commencé a regarder via les forums et autres blog, un itinéraire pour voir un peu de ville et surtout un peu de campagne, nous partons a deux et nous privilégions le transport en train ( de nuit de préférence), et bus( même si je n'ai pas trouvé grand chose dessus a part que c'est très long....) Nous arrivons sur pékin pour 4 jours, ensuite de pékin le train pour Datong et ensuite train pour Pingyao, je pense y passer une journée complète ( Est ce qu'une journée suffit??? ) et une nuit avant de repartir pour Xian toujours en train. Xian je ne sais pas si c'est une ville ou s'attarder? a part faire la visite de l'armée enterrée, et rapidement la ville est ce suffisant? en fait nous avons surtout l'idée d'aller a Guilin en passant par le site de Zhangjieaje qui apparemment est très beau, mais je n'arrive pas a réellement trouver des trajets possibles de Xian, toujours en train sans que cela me fasse des heures ( 26 heures de train) est ce possible de faire autrement sans que cela nous coute trop cher? est ce que vous avez des idées de visites intéressantes dans cette région , en sachant que notre périple se termine sur Shanghai ( 3 jours) et que nous avions l'idée de remonter par Wuhan (de Guilin) faire un arrêt d'une journée et une nuit pour couper le trajet avant d'arriver a notre point de retour Shanghai ou je compte 3 jours.
Je ne sais pas si je suis claire mais j'ai besoin de toutes vos lumières et de vos expériences qui je le sais me seront très utile.
Juste une chose aussi: nous aimerions profiter de notre séjour pour participer a un cours de cuisine authentique traditionnelle, qu'importe ou mais que ce soit riche en découverte culinaire. Donc la aussi si vous avez des plans, je prends.
Je vous remercie d'avance pour le temps que vous allez prendre pour me répondre.
Myriam
Bonjour bonjour,
Nous (2 personnes) partons pour un voyage relativement improvisé en Chine entre le 7 et le 20 janvier.
Nous atterrissons à Chengdu et repartons de Pekin, et cherchons des conseils pour préparer notre itinéraire. Xi'Ian semble être magnifique. Nous voyageons surtout en bus/trains et ne cherchons pas forcément les hauts-lieux touristiques. (des promenades plus "natures" nous tentent, ainsi que des sites plus culturels... mais nous sommes conscients que le timing est serré).
Merci d'avance ! 😏
Nous (2 personnes) partons pour un voyage relativement improvisé en Chine entre le 7 et le 20 janvier.
Nous atterrissons à Chengdu et repartons de Pekin, et cherchons des conseils pour préparer notre itinéraire. Xi'Ian semble être magnifique. Nous voyageons surtout en bus/trains et ne cherchons pas forcément les hauts-lieux touristiques. (des promenades plus "natures" nous tentent, ainsi que des sites plus culturels... mais nous sommes conscients que le timing est serré).
Merci d'avance ! 😏
Bonjour,
En septembre prochain, passant 4 journées pleines à Pékin, je voudrais consacrer une journée complète pour une randonnée dans la Grande Muraille de Chine, avec bon rapport qualité/prix. Les sites de Badaling et Mutianyu seraient-ils les plus intéressants, comme cela me semble ? Si oui, peut-on les relier en randonnée en 1 journée, avec possibilité de prendre un bus différent pour le trajet retour ? Je peux facilement faire 20 à 30 km à pied en une journée. Pour me rendre à la grande muraille depuis Pékin, je prendrais bien un bus local peu cher, mais comme je parle peu l'anglais, j'opterais peut-être pour une solution pratique du style d'un bus qui dessert les hôtels. Pour info, mon hôtel sera le Beijing Hyde Courtyard, dans les hutongs, proche de la cité interdite. Je serai à Pekin entre le 18 et le 23 septembre, au cas où d'autres personnes seraient intéressées par la même sortie.
En septembre prochain, passant 4 journées pleines à Pékin, je voudrais consacrer une journée complète pour une randonnée dans la Grande Muraille de Chine, avec bon rapport qualité/prix. Les sites de Badaling et Mutianyu seraient-ils les plus intéressants, comme cela me semble ? Si oui, peut-on les relier en randonnée en 1 journée, avec possibilité de prendre un bus différent pour le trajet retour ? Je peux facilement faire 20 à 30 km à pied en une journée. Pour me rendre à la grande muraille depuis Pékin, je prendrais bien un bus local peu cher, mais comme je parle peu l'anglais, j'opterais peut-être pour une solution pratique du style d'un bus qui dessert les hôtels. Pour info, mon hôtel sera le Beijing Hyde Courtyard, dans les hutongs, proche de la cité interdite. Je serai à Pekin entre le 18 et le 23 septembre, au cas où d'autres personnes seraient intéressées par la même sortie.
Bonjour,
Nous préparons un voyage en Chine l'été prochain de 3 semaines. Nous sommes 4 (2 adultes et 2 ados 12 et 15 ans). J'aimerai votre avis sur cet itinéraire en cours d'élaboration. J1 - arrivé Pékin J2-3-4 : Pékin J 5-6 Deux journée sur la Grande Muraille (nuit DongPo Inn ou tente) J7 : Pekin J8 : Transfert vers Chengdu : Train ou Avion ? J9 : Chengdu : base des Pandas J10-11-12 : Emieshan + Leshan J13 : Transfert sur Kagding J14 : Kangding J15 : Transfert sur Tagong J16 : Tagong J17-18-19-20-21 : Trek avec une agence locale (Definitely Nomadic) J22 : retour Chengdu J23 : retour Pekin Train ou avion ? J24 : retour France
Nous ne souhaitons pas être trop pressé et préférons profiter localement des lieux. Ceci vous semble réalisable ? Pour descendre sur Chengdu nous hésitons entre l'avion (pour l'instant assez chez d'après mes recherches) ou le train (14H ou 21H pour les plus rapides).
Merci à tous pour vos avis éclairés et le partage d'informations. Olivier
Nous préparons un voyage en Chine l'été prochain de 3 semaines. Nous sommes 4 (2 adultes et 2 ados 12 et 15 ans). J'aimerai votre avis sur cet itinéraire en cours d'élaboration. J1 - arrivé Pékin J2-3-4 : Pékin J 5-6 Deux journée sur la Grande Muraille (nuit DongPo Inn ou tente) J7 : Pekin J8 : Transfert vers Chengdu : Train ou Avion ? J9 : Chengdu : base des Pandas J10-11-12 : Emieshan + Leshan J13 : Transfert sur Kagding J14 : Kangding J15 : Transfert sur Tagong J16 : Tagong J17-18-19-20-21 : Trek avec une agence locale (Definitely Nomadic) J22 : retour Chengdu J23 : retour Pekin Train ou avion ? J24 : retour France
Nous ne souhaitons pas être trop pressé et préférons profiter localement des lieux. Ceci vous semble réalisable ? Pour descendre sur Chengdu nous hésitons entre l'avion (pour l'instant assez chez d'après mes recherches) ou le train (14H ou 21H pour les plus rapides).
Merci à tous pour vos avis éclairés et le partage d'informations. Olivier
Bonjour,
je suis a la recherche d'un chauffeur parlant Français ou anglais pour la visite des alentour de shanghai.
nous sommes 3 personne.
les dates serais du dimanche 9 avril au 13 avril au soir. On prend le train de nuit de Yangzhou.
cordialement
Bonjour,
Je voudrais partir 1 semaine en Septembre (apparemment meilleure saison) pour visiter Pékin et la grande muraille. Pour des raisons de temps et économiques, je n'envisage pas plus et pas plus longtemps. Est-ce pratique pour partir seul et en indépendant avec un budget limité ?
Pour le choix de l'hôtel, quel(s) quartier serai(ent) le plus recommandé(s) ? Comment faire pour le transport "aéroport - hôtel ?" Existe-il des agences locales qui organisent des visites guidées (en Français si possible...) ? Comment me rendre depuis Pékin, à la grande muraille ? Peut-on prendre des photos où on veut ? Y-a-til des restrictions ? Quels sont les risques spécifiques à ce pays et cette région ?
Je voudrais partir 1 semaine en Septembre (apparemment meilleure saison) pour visiter Pékin et la grande muraille. Pour des raisons de temps et économiques, je n'envisage pas plus et pas plus longtemps. Est-ce pratique pour partir seul et en indépendant avec un budget limité ?
Pour le choix de l'hôtel, quel(s) quartier serai(ent) le plus recommandé(s) ? Comment faire pour le transport "aéroport - hôtel ?" Existe-il des agences locales qui organisent des visites guidées (en Français si possible...) ? Comment me rendre depuis Pékin, à la grande muraille ? Peut-on prendre des photos où on veut ? Y-a-til des restrictions ? Quels sont les risques spécifiques à ce pays et cette région ?
