Vol cusco-lima.
=> Le moins cher c'est Star peru. Les avions sont vieux mais du moment que ça vol. Prix : 145$ TTC (110€)
=> Lan. Avion plus ressent. Prix : 135€ TTC
Colca :
tu peux lire notre copte rendu ici. Nous avons fais le même parcours
Organisé sur place seul (pas besoin de guide, agence ou autre) car les chemin sont bien visible
Prix (dec 2012) :
=> 20 Sol/pers pour faire Arequipa - Cabanaconde
=> 20 Sol la chambre double à Sangalle
=> 10 Sol/pers le repas à Sangalle
=> 96 Sol pour deux pour la nuit + diner + petit déjeuner à Cabanaconde (sachant que c'était pas l'hôtel le moins cher)
Vallée sacrée :
Aucune possibilité de vraiment éviter la foule. Prend le 1er bus vers 5h30 ou alors, monte à pied vers 3h du matin (avec une lampe frontale). A partir de 10h, tu as les touriste qui viennent directement de Cusco. Entre 6h et 10h, c'est les touristes qui ont dormi à Agua Calientes. Donc dort plutôt à Agua Calientes (il y a plein d'hôtel à cher en s'éloignant de l'arrêt de bus). Pas besoin de réserver avant. Choisi sur place.
"Vol cusco-lima. => Le moins cher c'est Star peru. Les avions sont vieux mais du moment que ça vol. Prix : 145$ TTC (110€)
=> Lan. Avion plus ressent. Prix : 135€ TTC "
Star peru des avions vieux? ils ne sont pas de l'année mais dire qu'ils sont vieux faut pas exagérer en plus ce ne sont pas les mêmes models, pour des voyages nationaux il n'y a pas de différence entre les deux. LAn est la meilleure compagnie sans discussion pour relier la France "Espagne" au Pérou bien meilleure que Air France, KLM et tout le reste je parlerai même pas d'Iberia qui est hors concours tant la compagnie est catastrophique.
Par contre la grosse différence entre Lan et Star Peru c'est que Lan fait des tarif intéressant beaucoup moins chers que Star Peru pour les péruviens un petit exemple au passage 87 $ pour Lima Cuzco allez retour et parfois 59$ alors que Star Peru plus cher n'en fait pas donc pour un touriste la question ne se pose même pas entre les deux vu qu'il n'y a pas le choix puisque cela vous coûtera environ 180$ de taxe supplémentaire donc 280$ parce que vous êtes un étranger et oui là-bas cela ne s'appel pas du racisme et ils trouvent tout à fait normal ne nous faire payer un max.
Disons que l'intérieur de l'avion de Star peru (Lima-Cusco) que l'on a pris ressembler à un salon après une bagarre entre 20 chiens enragés 🤪.
Moquette au sol et fauteuil déchirer un peu partout, tablette plus que douteuse (limite si elle allait pas cassé), rouille sur les "pied" en fer des sièges, etc...
La sensation de sécurité n'est pas rester plus de 10 secondes 🙂.
Après, du moment que l'avion arrive entier (avec moi) au bout, je m'en fou du reste.
Limite si je préfère. Ça permet d'avoir plus de souvenir que de prendre un avion neuf.
je pense que tu n'as pas du avoir de la chance car moi je l'ai pris 6 fois et la dernière c'étais en Février dernier, je suis pas là pour défendre cette compagnie vraiment pas mais ta description me semble irréaliste, moi j'aurai été à ta place en arrivant j'aurai pris des photos et filmé et j'aurai fait une réclamation en arrivant à Lima, je n'ai jamais entendu du mal de cette compagnie avant, tu peux regarder sur youtube leurs vidéos:
Clair que l'avion que l'on a eu avait rien à voir avec celui de la 2eme vidéo.
Le notre avait pas de TV et avait 2 rangées de 2 sièges.
Les plastiques/ferrailles des sièges (comprendre les dos des siège + tablette) étaient jaune/orange pisse avec 20% de la peinture en moins (par des rayures). A vu de nez, je lui donnais 15 ans d'âge.
Il y avait même pas de "porte-gobelet" (ou du moins un renforcement) pour mettre un verre. Tablette totalement lisse et très petite (trop petite exemple pour mettre un plateau repas de KLM, AF, etc...).
Pas de tissu pour les sièges mais du "cuir" (enfin un truc comme ça).
Pour les réclamations, je pensais juste que tous les avions pour les vols intérieurs au Pérou étaient comme ça (pays pauvre = avion de merde). Raisonnement simpliste je l'avoue.
Et puis, j'étais plus occuper à prendre des photos par le hublot des Andes pour me soucier de prendre en photo l'avion surtout pour mon 1er jour au Pérou 😊.
Si c'était à refaire, je reprendre Star peru. Pour deux raisons :
- C'est moins cher pour les étrangers
- Pas de discrimination entre les gens (je déteste ça. Le prix en fonction de ta gueule 😠 )
il est possible qu'ils aient mis un ancien avion pour remplacer qui est tombé en panne au pied levé,
"Pour les réclamations, je pensais juste que tous les avions pour les vols intérieurs au Pérou étaient comme ça (pays pauvre = avion de merde). Raisonnement simpliste je l'avoue. "
je comprends si c'était la seule et unique fois que tu es pris un vol intérieur au Pérou c'est normal de penser cela, je te rassure en général ils sont du même niveau qu'en France, star peru et peruvian airelines sont péruviennes et lan chilienne.
"Si c'était à refaire, je reprendre Star peru. Pour deux raisons : - C'est moins cher pour les étrangers
- Pas de discrimination entre les gens (je déteste ça. Le prix en fonction de ta gueule 😠 )"
Oui en fait on a pas vraiment le choix, comme je l'ai écrit dans un de mes précédents messages la différence entre le prix appliqué aux péruviens et aux étrangers est énorme et avec le taux de change c'est pire encore.
J14 : Di22 VALLEE SACREE - CUSCO
Train Aguas calientes - Ollantaytambo / Bus vers Urubamba
Les Salinas de Maras / Moray.
Nuit à Cusco :
quelques questions :
possibilité d'ajout" PISSAC à la premiere journée? ou ca va etre trop court ?
2eme journée passage par PISSAC ou Chinchero pour rejoindre Ollantaytalbo.
le train aller retour entre Ollantaytambo et Aguas Calientes :
depart le jour 2 (J13) vers 19h (compatible avec le planning de la journée ? arrivée pas trop tardive à Aguas Calientes ?)
retour le jour 4 (J15) vers 5h30 ou 8h50 : le second timing est trop short pour continuer sur les Salinas et Moray ?
J11 -
Ne met pas Pisac.
Tu auras suffisamment à faire avec cusco et sacsahuaman. Oublie pas que tu vas perdre un peu de temps pour prendre la chambre de l'hôtel et trouver tes marques en ville.
J12
Pisac => Urumbamba => Ollantaytambo
C'est mieux de garder chinchero avec Moray car c'est sur la même route
J14
Salinas + moray + chinchero (même si c'est pas une ville très passionnante)
Train:
départ à 19h c'est bien
Retour à 5h30 c'est bien. On n'ai pas tous les jours au Pérou donc autant en profiter. Tu auras bien les boule si tu as pas de temps de faire un truc car tu as dormis 2h de plus. 😛
Le sac c'est toujours en fonction des climat et surtout des personnes. Certain partirons avec 25L et 5kg, d'autres pour le même voyage, vont partir avec 60L et 15kg.
Bien souvent les personnes partent avec trop de vêtement.
Pense que tu peux toujours laver ton linge dans une laverie (tu dépose le matin, tu récupères le soir) pour pas cher dans les pays "pauvre".
10€ vaut bien 10kg de moins à porter.
Tu peux voir nos sac ici pour à pu près le même circuit.
- Il y a que la paire de jumelle qui a été en trop.
- Rien nous a manqué.
pour les 2 jours/ 2 nuits dans la canyon del Colca, est ce que ca vaut le coup de reserver un hotel pour Cabanaconde (2eme nuit) avant de partir ? ou au moment d'organiser le "trek" sur place je trouverai facilement de quoi faire ?
Début décembre, nous avions rien réserver et somme arriver le dernier jour du trek à 19h au début de la nuit au Pachamama. Aucun problème pour avoir une chambre double.
Après, décembre c'est la basse saison. Quid de mi-septembre !
je pense que je ne vais pas prendre de risque et reserver avant de partir
cabanaconde, c'est grand ? ou tout est a peu pres au meme endroit ?
j'ai reperé un hotel a booking.com
Juste un commentaire sur jours 9/10:
Il vous faut faire le lac Titicaca en deux jours.
1er jour: Puno - Amantani via les Uros (1/2 heure).
Nuit sur Amantani.
2ème jour: retour à Puno via Taquile (déjeuner). Arrivée à Puno vers 16h/16h30 et bus de nuit pour Cusco (réservé dès votre arrivée à Puno l'avant veille).
Buen viaje
pour la trajet entre Chivay et Puno, j'ai pris contact avec la compagnie de Bus 4M et ils me proposent le trajet entre les deux villes avec quelques arrêts en chemin pour prendre des photos pour 45$ par personne.
y'a-t'il un autre moyen de faire ce trajet sans repasser par Arequipa?
La compagnie Sillustani effectue aussi ce trajet. Pas de car, mais du minibus très confortable avec commentaires le long du trajet. Compter 90 NS
Les billets 4M peuvent s'acheter ailleurs que chez 4M et les écarts de prix sont conséquents ! On nous avait proposé le trajet pour 110 NS directement à Chivay... et à 35$ à Cabanaconde...
voici les mails que j'ai trouvés sur leur dépliant : tour_sillustani@msn.com / chivaysillustani@msn.com / arequipasillustani@msn.com
Egalement le téléphone à Puno #986159
Hi everyone, The years go by and Machu Picchu has been on our "to-do list" for a few decades now... But Peru is, fortunately, so much more than this legendary…
Hi everyone! I’m heading to Colombia in January 2026 and have a few questions. In Salento, which is better to do—Cocora Valley or Carbonera Valley? After that, I want to fly from Medellín to Rincón del Mar. Is there an airport in Tolú? I can’t find any info. Thanks in advance, and *buen viajé* to all! Kristian
Hi everyone! So happy to be back on this forum—it’s packed with such useful info! 🙂 My husband and I are planning a 2.5-week self-drive trip to Colombia at the end of the year, including some domestic flights. My first question is: is it possible, easy, and safe to do a road trip in Colombia?
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá.
30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate.
01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva.
02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá.
03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento.
04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby?
05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones?
06/12: Flight to Medellín.
07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses?
08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé.
09/12: Return to Medellín.
10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park.
11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance.
12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think?
13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?).
14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao.
15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time.
16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach.
17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
It's decided—2027 will be Brazil, in the summer (unless you advise against it 😕). From what I’ve read, the weather’s okay, even if it’s a bit chilly for swimming. We’re going, as always, as a group of four, with our teens. 🙂
We’d be looking at a solid two weeks, at least 14 days on the ground. I’m planning way ahead to nail down an itinerary and book our flight tickets (the prices I’m seeing already are freaking me out…).
From my research, I’ve come across some classic routes: Rio/Iguazu/Paraty/Ilha Grande.
Roughly: 4 days in Rio, 2 in Iguazu, 2 in Paraty, and 3 on Ilha Verde. That’d leave us one more stop on the trip.
Since we like to end with a "chill" stop for the kids,
My questions:
- Is Ilha Verde worth it this time of year? I’ve read that swimming might not be an option—water’s too cold… So not ideal for a chill/relaxing destination?
- How should we round out the trip in the South? São Paulo? Another stop along the Costa Verde?
- Wouldn’t it make more sense to head up to the Northeast, where it’s warmer, like Salvador de Bahia?
But Salvador raises other questions:
- Are there flights from Iguazu to Salvador?
- And for the return to France, would we have to connect through Rio or São Paulo from Salvador?
- Any suggestions for places to stay around Salvador?
Thanks for your input—I’m sure I’ll have more questions as I go along. 😉
Hi there, we’ve decided to head to Brazil at the end of March for 2.5 weeks with our 13-year-old son. From what I’ve gathered from some research, Rio seems like a great destination at this time of year, and I’m thinking around 4-5 days to explore it—does that sound right to you? Copacabana, Ipanema, Sugarloaf Mountain, Christ the Redeemer, maybe a favela tour, or any other ideas?
How’s the best way to get around locally? I’ve heard about Bonito or Angra dos Reis and Ilha Grande—what do you think of those? Fernando de Noronha for snorkeling or even diving? Is Recife a good option at this time of year?
If you’ve got any suggestions, we’re all ears—it’s for our 50th birthdays! :-) Thanks so much for your help and tips. See you soon.
Hi there, I’m looking for recent info on a boat trip with sleeping accommodations from Belém to Santarém. I don’t want a "luxury cruise for wealthy tourists"—just a bed with a minimum of comfort seems great to me🙂. I didn’t find any up-to-date details with Amazon Star. Do you have any companies, guides, or prices for this route to recommend?
I’d love to hear tips and feedback on this trip, especially since I’m traveling solo. I’d like to get a sense of what to expect and ensure some basic safety with transportation.
Thanks.
Hi everyone,
We’re planning 40 days in Uruguay and Argentina in February and March, trying to avoid as much rain as possible.
We’re thinking of starting in Buenos Aires, then heading to Bariloche, and from there flying to Córdoba, Mendoza, or Salta. Maybe by bus or renting a car to explore each region.
Do you have any suggestions or tips for us? We love picturesque, historic cities and landscapes. As seasoned travelers, we’re used to planning our trips ourselves.
Thanks in advance!
We’ve planned our road trip in Chile, and the only thing left is to book the TABSA ferry from Punta Arenas to Puerto Williams.
Problem: the ferry that leaves Punta Arenas at 1 AM isn’t available for booking, no matter the day or month. All the other departures can be booked, though.
On top of that, Tabsa isn’t responding to any messages.
We’re planning to explore Peru’s main highlights and were wondering if anyone could share insights on the quality and comfort of overnight buses. If so, which bus company should we trust?
Hi,
My wife and I are heading to Brazil from November 6th to December 2nd. We’ll be stopping in São Paulo, Paraty, Ilha Grande, Rio, and Salvador de Bahia.
Could you recommend some nice, non-luxury places to stay in each of these spots?
Also, any suggestions for places to visit would be great.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Marc
Hi there.
I already posted a message asking for advice about our upcoming trip to Chile.
Details: Getting around by bus or train.
Starting from Valparaiso, heading north, passing through cities and places to visit, then returning to Santiago via a different route.
Avoid the beaches...
Thanks
Hello,
my wife and I will be in Cusco for a week in March 2027.
I’d like to organize the visit to the site on our own, combining the Sacred Valley and Machu Picchu.
We’d leave Cusco on Day 1 to arrive at the site in the morning, then stay in Aguas Calientes or Ollantaytambo, and on Day 2 return to Cusco while visiting the Sacred Valley.
Is this doable?
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hello,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Rio between February 20 and March 15, 2027, to visit our son and daughter-in-law. We’re thinking of one or two "escapes" from Rio—3-day trips to get away from the city (so not too far, max 3–4 hours by car or bus). We’re all ears for suggestions! We love beautiful nature and authentic experiences, not so much the touristy spots... even though those spots are often in beautiful places, we’d rather avoid them.
Thanks for your insights!
Catherine
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip with my partner (no kids this time—thanks, Grandma!) for two weeks to celebrate her 40th birthday. I’ve been thinking about Chile. We’re looking at leaving around September 18, 2027, starting in the south and returning in early April.
Here’s what I had in mind:
8 nights in a van in the Lake District and the start of the Carretera Austral (up to the Chaitén area). We’re set to arrive in Puerto Montt around 2:00 PM. We don’t want to go too far south since we’re planning to explore the heart of Patagonia (Chile and Argentina) with the kids when they’re older. The idea is to spend 3 nights discovering the lakes (up to Cochamó) and 3 nights in Pumalín Park. I’ve also added two transition nights.
7 nights in the Atacama to experience another side of Chile (San Pedro), taking a domestic flight from Puerto Montt to Calama in the early afternoon. We’ll depart for France in the early evening from Santiago.
IMPORTANT NOTICE for those planning to take a bus to another city, state, or destination from Salvador!
Starting January 20, 2026, the intercity bus station Rodoviária is changing its address!
The Rodoviária is leaving the Iguatemi area and will now be located in ÁGUAS CLARAS (about twenty kilometers from downtown Salvador).
A brand-new station (the most modern in Brazil) has just been set up there, accessible by car/taxi/Uber/metro.
Allow for much more transfer time (especially during rush hours), so leave early if you're heading to Chapada Diamantina or other Brazilian cities by bus.
Remember, there are also private transfers (even French-speaking ones) that can take you directly from your hotel in Salvador to your hotel in Chapada. Sure, it’ll be more expensive, but you’ll save on transfer time and comfort.
Tropical greetings from Salvador,
@ivanbahiaguide
Loyal member of the French-Speaking Brazil Forums for over 15 years already 😊 🇧🇷
Hello,
We’re thinking of spending 1 month in Chile, maybe doing a loop?
From 12/23 to 01/22.
What are the must-see sights, given we’re more interested in the country’s cultural side than the beaches?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to southern Chile in November. Here's our tentative itinerary:
Day 1: Arrival in Santiago, then a flight the next day to Balmaceda where we'll pick up a rental car to reach Coyhaique.
Day 3: Walk in the Coyhaique National Reserve, then continue to Puerto Chacabuco. Return to Coyhaique for the second night.
Day 4: Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo for a hike in the national park. Continue to Puerto Tranquilo and stay there for 3 nights.
Day 5: Boat tour on Laguna San Rafael.
Day 6: Day trip to Monte San Valentin Glacier.
Day 7: Excursion to the Marble Chapels, then drive to Puerto Guadal. We'll stay there for 3 nights.
Day 8: Walk along Lago Carrera and return to Puerto Guadal.
Day 9: Rio Baker Valley and, if possible, a glacier excursion.
Day 10: Drive to Cochrane and hike in Tamango National Reserve. We'll stay 2 nights in Cochrane.
Day 11: Walk in the Chacabuco Valley.
Day 12: Drive to Caleta Tortel. We'll stay there for 2 nights.
Day 13: Cruise in the Rio Baker delta.
Day 14: Return to Cochrane.
Day 15: Return to Balmaceda in two stages.
Day 16: Continue the return journey.
Day 17: Return the rental car and head back to Santiago.
After this, we're also planning to explore northern Santiago. I'll post about that part once I have a clearer idea of the route.
What do you think of this itinerary? Is it doable in 17 days?
Thanks in advance for your tips and recommendations.
martine
Hi there, I’ll be in Brazil from December 10th to the end of February.
I’ve sketched out a rough itinerary but I’m not sure how to arrange it—considering the climate, year-end holidays, and Carnival.
Basically, I’m thinking of the Amazon, the Northeast coast with Lençóis Maranhenses National Park (but skipping Chapada Diamantina),
Ouro Preto, Paraty, and Ilha Grande—but no Rio visit.
Is this doable in 3 months?
Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule?
After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help!
Martin
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me.
What do you think?
What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions!
Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
