Alaska - Yukon en voiture de location et formalités
by Ulysse42
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
J'ai un projet de voyage pour 3 semaines cet été entre Alaska et Yukon en voiture de location à partir de Fairbanks, Anchorage ou Whitehorse, c'est le prix vol et auto qui tranchera sur la ville d'arrivée. J'ai l'ESTA pour les USA, faut-il l'équivalent pour la partie Canada?
J'aurai auparavant fait un séjour d'environ 2 mois dans le sud des USA. L'ensemble du séjour peut légèrement dépasser 3 mois mais incluant un passage dans le Yukon, l'ESTA permet-il ceci?
Autre question, une location auto permet-elle de circuler entre Yukon et Alaska?
Merci par avance.
Ulysse 42
Bonjour.
En principe un AVE est indispensable, mais pour une entrée terrestre via les USA, d'autres personnes du forum pourront le préciser.
Un ESTA c'est 90 jours et pas 3mois même si tu fais une entrée au Canada, le compteur de l'ESTA cours toujours. + de 90 jours c'est un overstay, et la punition tombe.
Pour la voiture, les loueurs : Hertz, Alamo, Avis et autres n'aiment pas trop que l'on circule sur les routes en terre de l'Alaska et du Youkon. C'est c.. : plus de 50% des routes sont en terre. Circulation et assurances à préciser par le loueur.
Un loueur : Car & RV Rental - GoNorth autorise et assure. Mais c'est plus cher et km limité. Les taxes varient suivant le lieu de prise en charge.
Bonne préparation. Jacques.
Driving Force à Whitehorse permet également d'emprunter les routes non goudronnées et d'aller aux États-Unis.
Pour aller au-delà des 90j (et non trois mois) il faut un visa
On peut faire un beau circuit Yukon - Alaska sans quitter les routes pavées en reliant Anchorage, Fairbanks et Whitehorse mais ça fait beaucoup de kilomètres et vous allez passer un peu vite devant certains endroits. Superbe voyage tout de même. Au Yukon faut éviter la boucle Whitehorse - Dawson (route Top of the World / Taylor) Tetlin Junction - Whitehorse, et la Dempster.
Côté vol, voir Condor si vous voulez éviter le long détour par Toronto - Vancouver et si vous n'avez pas de problèmes à passer par Frankfort, près de chez-vous.
Pour traverser la frontière en auto louée, on en voit tellement par ici que ça ne devrait pas poser de problème. Informez-vous bien avant.
Routes de gravier et assurance: Vous avez un accident sur une route pavée. Le loueur démontre que vous avez pris une route de gravier pour être à cet endroit. Il annule l'assurance. En Alaska c'est presqu'impossible à démontrer mais au Yukon, avec si peu de routes, la date et le lieu de l'accident parlent souvent d'eux même. Expérience personnelle.
En 3 semaines, considérez la possibilité de vous limiter à l'Alaska (centre-sud et Denali) ou au Yukon avec incursion dans le sud-est de l'Alaska. Ça vous donnerait plus de temps pour explorer.
Côté vol, voir Condor si vous voulez éviter le long détour par Toronto - Vancouver et si vous n'avez pas de problèmes à passer par Frankfort, près de chez-vous.
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Etrefal
J'ai un projet de voyage pour 3 semaines cet été entre Alaska et Yukon en voiture de location à partir de Fairbanks, Anchorage ou Whitehorse, c'est le prix vol et auto qui tranchera sur la ville d'arrivée. J'ai l'ESTA pour les USA, faut-il l'équivalent pour la partie Canada?
J'aurai auparavant fait un séjour d'environ 2 mois dans le sud des USA. L'ensemble du séjour peut légèrement dépasser 3 mois mais incluant un passage dans le Yukon, l'ESTA permet-il ceci?
Autre question, une location auto permet-elle de circuler entre Yukon et Alaska?
Merci par avance.
Bonjour Christian. J'étais dans ces contrées en 2016. L'AVE est obligatoire pour entrer au Canada par avion. Mais pas par voie terrestre. J'avais loué une voiture à Vancouver chez Thrifty , je suis remonté a travers la Colombie britannique et le Yukon en suivant dans l'ordre : la Sea to sky Hwy, la Cariboo Hwy, Yellowhead Hwy, la Cassiar Hwy, l'Alaska Hwy. Je suis entré en Alaska pour passer une journée à Skagway, j'ai dû remplir toutes les formalités, ESTA compris, car je n'étais pas encore passé aux USA donc pas dans leur ordinateur. Si vous venez des USA vous n'aurez pas ces contingences. Les américains ont agraphé un volet du formulaire à mon passeport en précisant de le donner à la douane CANADIENNE lorsque je quitterai pour la DERNIERE fois le territoire américain. En effet après avoir fait tout un périple jusqu'à Dawson City puis la Dempster Hwy jusqu'à Inuvik et retour, je suis à nouveau rentré aux US par la Top of the world Hwy. Là tout a été plus simple grâce à ce volet attaché au passeport. Après mon séjour en Alaska, je suis redescendu par l'Alaska Hwy et j'ai rendu ce fameux volet (vert) à la douane canadienne en réentrant au Yukon puisque je n'avais plus d'intention de rentrer en territoire américain. Normalement il n'y a pas de restriction de la part des loueurs pour entrer au USA depuis le Canada. Et inversement il n'y en a pas non plus pour entre au Canada depuis les USA, c'était mon cas en 1999 car je partais de Seattle. En ce qui concerne le visa touristique, faites attention c'est 90 jours maximum, PAS UN JOUR DE PLUS ! J'espère vous avoir un peu aidé. J'oubliais de dire que je n'avais rien demandé au loueur en ce qui concerne les routes non goudronnées (Dempster, Top of the World et Denali Hwy). Quoi que vous demandiez c'est toujours non. a vous de voir bien-sûr. Salutations.
Bonjour Christian. J'étais dans ces contrées en 2016. L'AVE est obligatoire pour entrer au Canada par avion. Mais pas par voie terrestre. J'avais loué une voiture à Vancouver chez Thrifty , je suis remonté a travers la Colombie britannique et le Yukon en suivant dans l'ordre : la Sea to sky Hwy, la Cariboo Hwy, Yellowhead Hwy, la Cassiar Hwy, l'Alaska Hwy. Je suis entré en Alaska pour passer une journée à Skagway, j'ai dû remplir toutes les formalités, ESTA compris, car je n'étais pas encore passé aux USA donc pas dans leur ordinateur. Si vous venez des USA vous n'aurez pas ces contingences. Les américains ont agraphé un volet du formulaire à mon passeport en précisant de le donner à la douane CANADIENNE lorsque je quitterai pour la DERNIERE fois le territoire américain. En effet après avoir fait tout un périple jusqu'à Dawson City puis la Dempster Hwy jusqu'à Inuvik et retour, je suis à nouveau rentré aux US par la Top of the world Hwy. Là tout a été plus simple grâce à ce volet attaché au passeport. Après mon séjour en Alaska, je suis redescendu par l'Alaska Hwy et j'ai rendu ce fameux volet (vert) à la douane canadienne en réentrant au Yukon puisque je n'avais plus d'intention de rentrer en territoire américain. Normalement il n'y a pas de restriction de la part des loueurs pour entrer au USA depuis le Canada. Et inversement il n'y en a pas non plus pour entre au Canada depuis les USA, c'était mon cas en 1999 car je partais de Seattle. En ce qui concerne le visa touristique, faites attention c'est 90 jours maximum, PAS UN JOUR DE PLUS ! J'espère vous avoir un peu aidé. J'oubliais de dire que je n'avais rien demandé au loueur en ce qui concerne les routes non goudronnées (Dempster, Top of the World et Denali Hwy). Quoi que vous demandiez c'est toujours non. a vous de voir bien-sûr. Salutations.
Titoualsace
Bonjour
Si vs rentrez aux USA par voie terrestre (et que vs n'etes pas dans la periode de 90 jours suivant l'entrée aux USA par avion) ce n'est pas l'ESTA que vs remplissez, mais le I94.
C'est un peu moins complet au point de vue renseignements, mais c'est un peu moins cher : 6$ au lieu de 14.
A noter qu'on peut le pré-remplir une semaine avant le passage de frontiere en allant sur le site
https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov/I94/#/home
https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov/I94/#/home
Bonjour Jean-Pierre.
Je ne suis jamais resté plus de 35 jours quels que soient mes voyages. Je ne connais pas
ce formulaire I94. Mais je n'ai jamais prêté attention aux numéros des formulaires que
l'on a pu me présenter.
Titoualsace
Bonjur
Je precisais I94 plutot que ESTA car votre reponse pouvait laisser croire qu'un ESTA etait admis pour rentreraux USA par voie terrestre.
Or ce n'est pas le cas.
Il y a 2 situations : 1° Vous etes déjà arrivés aux USA par avion, donc utilisé un ESTA, et vs y revenez apres un passage au CANADA, toujours dans les 90 jours autorisés pour votre sejour touristique. Dans ce cas, on ne vs demande rien de particulier à la frontiere US. La presentation du passeport suffit.
2° Vs avez atteri au CANADA, et dans cette situation, l'ESTA n'est pas admis pour rentrer aux USA. Les agents de 'immigration vs demanderons de sortir de la voiture, et de faire la procedure d'immigration "normale" . Remplir le I94, payer 6$ et subir un interrogatoire sur vos raisons de venir aux USA (notamment le fameux billet retour). Avoir un ESTA valide permettra simplement aux agents de l'immigration de pre-remplir le I94.
Le I94 se traduit notamment par le fameux petit ticket vert agraffé au passeport, qu'il faut absolument remettre à l'immigration canadienne à la sortie des USA.
Or ce n'est pas le cas.
Il y a 2 situations : 1° Vous etes déjà arrivés aux USA par avion, donc utilisé un ESTA, et vs y revenez apres un passage au CANADA, toujours dans les 90 jours autorisés pour votre sejour touristique. Dans ce cas, on ne vs demande rien de particulier à la frontiere US. La presentation du passeport suffit.
2° Vs avez atteri au CANADA, et dans cette situation, l'ESTA n'est pas admis pour rentrer aux USA. Les agents de 'immigration vs demanderons de sortir de la voiture, et de faire la procedure d'immigration "normale" . Remplir le I94, payer 6$ et subir un interrogatoire sur vos raisons de venir aux USA (notamment le fameux billet retour). Avoir un ESTA valide permettra simplement aux agents de l'immigration de pre-remplir le I94.
Le I94 se traduit notamment par le fameux petit ticket vert agraffé au passeport, qu'il faut absolument remettre à l'immigration canadienne à la sortie des USA.
Bonjur
Je precisais I94 plutot que ESTA car votre reponse pouvait laisser croire qu'un ESTA etait admis pour rentreraux USA par voie terrestre.
Or ce n'est pas le cas.
Il y a 2 situations : 1° Vous etes déjà arrivés aux USA par avion, donc utilisé un ESTA, et vs y revenez apres un passage au CANADA, toujours dans les 90 jours autorisés pour votre sejour touristique. Dans ce cas, on ne vs demande rien de particulier à la frontiere US. La presentation du passeport suffit.
2° Vs avez atteri au CANADA, et dans cette situation, l'ESTA n'est pas admis pour rentrer aux USA. Les agents de 'immigration vs demanderons de sortir de la voiture, et de faire la procedure d'immigration "normale" . Remplir le I94, payer 6$ et subir un interrogatoire sur vos raisons de venir aux USA (notamment le fameux billet retour). Avoir un ESTA valide permettra simplement aux agents de l'immigration de pre-remplir le I94.
Le I94 se traduit notamment par le fameux petit ticket vert agraffé au passeport, qu'il faut absolument remettre à l'immigration canadienne à la sortie des USA.
Bonjour Jpg13. C'était donc forcément le formulaire I94 que j'ai dû remplir pour entrer aux USA à Skagway. Donc erreur de ma part. Comme je le disais précédemment je n'ai pas prêté attention au numéro du formulaire, dont acte. Salutations.
Or ce n'est pas le cas.
Il y a 2 situations : 1° Vous etes déjà arrivés aux USA par avion, donc utilisé un ESTA, et vs y revenez apres un passage au CANADA, toujours dans les 90 jours autorisés pour votre sejour touristique. Dans ce cas, on ne vs demande rien de particulier à la frontiere US. La presentation du passeport suffit.
2° Vs avez atteri au CANADA, et dans cette situation, l'ESTA n'est pas admis pour rentrer aux USA. Les agents de 'immigration vs demanderons de sortir de la voiture, et de faire la procedure d'immigration "normale" . Remplir le I94, payer 6$ et subir un interrogatoire sur vos raisons de venir aux USA (notamment le fameux billet retour). Avoir un ESTA valide permettra simplement aux agents de l'immigration de pre-remplir le I94.
Le I94 se traduit notamment par le fameux petit ticket vert agraffé au passeport, qu'il faut absolument remettre à l'immigration canadienne à la sortie des USA.
Bonjour Jpg13. C'était donc forcément le formulaire I94 que j'ai dû remplir pour entrer aux USA à Skagway. Donc erreur de ma part. Comme je le disais précédemment je n'ai pas prêté attention au numéro du formulaire, dont acte. Salutations.
Titoualsace
Rebonjour Jpg13.
Aucun souci, vous avez raison d'être précis en la matière, c'est très important pour ceux
qui suivent ce forum. La priorité reste la bonne information. Bien à vous, Bernard.
Titoualsace
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I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April. My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date. Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry. However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Will Ryanair let me board in Beauvais in 3 weeks?
Thanks for your advice—this is a bit urgent 😕😕😕😕
I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April. My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date. Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry. However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Will Ryanair let me board in Beauvais in 3 weeks?
Thanks for your advice—this is a bit urgent 😕😕😕😕
Hello,
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Hi there,
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
Hi everyone,
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊







