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Aller en Algérie avec un passeport français et une carte d'identité algérienne?
by Inès75010
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous,
Depuis une semaine, je suis dans la quatrième dimension avec les autorités algériennes : consulat de Pontoise et de Paris... En quelques mots, j'ai la double nationnalité et souhaite me rendre à Oran le 20 08 ... Mon passeport algérien a expiré et pour le renouvellement c'est toute une histoire : 1- Je n'habite plus la normandie mais Paris, ce qui signifie transfert de dossier d'un consulat vers un autre. 2- A Paris, aucune possibilité pour le renouvellement de mon passeport car ils n'ont toujours pas mon dossier (vive les admistrations) donc retour à Pontoise. 3- Un aller/retour Paris-Pontoise et Pontoise-Paris en une journée sans oublier les délais d'attente ... puis retour à la case visa car deux passeports ... 4- Pas de visa à Paris car j'ai le passeport algérien et une prolongation peut-être faite par le service .... Mais c'est hors de question car suis journaliste et le dossier est bloqué à Pontoise (soit-disant). 5- A Pontoise dossier transféré mais me demande de voir avec l'ambassade algérienne de Paris, car je suis journaliste de presse. Au secours ... Que faire?!!!!! J'ai entendu dire que l'on peut passer la douane avec un passeport français et une CNI algérienne en cours de validité. J'ai le tout!!! Quelqu'un peut-il me dire si ma délivrance est proche avec ces deux sésames??? Il s'agit d'un voyage privé et non professionnel. En effet, je suis arrivée au stade où je hais les administrations algériennes qui n'ont aucunes cohérences dans l'application de leur fonction. Merci pour vos réponses ... Inès
Depuis une semaine, je suis dans la quatrième dimension avec les autorités algériennes : consulat de Pontoise et de Paris... En quelques mots, j'ai la double nationnalité et souhaite me rendre à Oran le 20 08 ... Mon passeport algérien a expiré et pour le renouvellement c'est toute une histoire : 1- Je n'habite plus la normandie mais Paris, ce qui signifie transfert de dossier d'un consulat vers un autre. 2- A Paris, aucune possibilité pour le renouvellement de mon passeport car ils n'ont toujours pas mon dossier (vive les admistrations) donc retour à Pontoise. 3- Un aller/retour Paris-Pontoise et Pontoise-Paris en une journée sans oublier les délais d'attente ... puis retour à la case visa car deux passeports ... 4- Pas de visa à Paris car j'ai le passeport algérien et une prolongation peut-être faite par le service .... Mais c'est hors de question car suis journaliste et le dossier est bloqué à Pontoise (soit-disant). 5- A Pontoise dossier transféré mais me demande de voir avec l'ambassade algérienne de Paris, car je suis journaliste de presse. Au secours ... Que faire?!!!!! J'ai entendu dire que l'on peut passer la douane avec un passeport français et une CNI algérienne en cours de validité. J'ai le tout!!! Quelqu'un peut-il me dire si ma délivrance est proche avec ces deux sésames??? Il s'agit d'un voyage privé et non professionnel. En effet, je suis arrivée au stade où je hais les administrations algériennes qui n'ont aucunes cohérences dans l'application de leur fonction. Merci pour vos réponses ... Inès
hassi-el-ghella-el-amria-ain-temouchent
Tu peux trouver ce sujet dans un autre message... et ce que j'ai lu tu pourras partir avec ton passepart français et arriver avec ta CNI algérienne valide ! Pour le retour, tu rentreras avec ton passeport français... Tu n'as qu'à tél à un consulat neutre ex. marseille, en demandant si tu peux entrer en Algérie avec ta CNI ! Pas de soucis !
LILI
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Je ne suis pas spécialiste de la chose, alors je vais peut-être dire une bêtise... Que quelqu'un me corrige si c'est le cas.
Je ne comprends pas comment tu pourras sortir de l'Algérie en présentant seulement ta carte d'identité. Pour sortir de l'Algérie il te faudrait un passeport, non ?
Tu auras le passeport français, mais sur le passeport français les douaniers devraient te tamponner le visa (un tampon à l'entrée et un tampon à la sortie du pays). Que vont-ils te dire s'ils voient que tu n'as pas eu de tampon d'entrée ?
Je connais des bi-nationaux qui font fréquemment la navette entre les 2 pays, mais ils le font avec les 2 passeports. Dans ton cas, ça me semble bizarre... Mais, peut-être que je me trompe
Pour simplifier la chose, pourquoi ne pas demander un visa comme tout citoyen français ? Je sais... il faudrait que tu payes pour que tu rentres dans ton propre pays, mais c'est une solution rapide et radicale. En plus, par rapport à ton statut de journaliste tu seras peut-être un peu moins embêtée...
Je ne comprends pas comment tu pourras sortir de l'Algérie en présentant seulement ta carte d'identité. Pour sortir de l'Algérie il te faudrait un passeport, non ?
Tu auras le passeport français, mais sur le passeport français les douaniers devraient te tamponner le visa (un tampon à l'entrée et un tampon à la sortie du pays). Que vont-ils te dire s'ils voient que tu n'as pas eu de tampon d'entrée ?
Je connais des bi-nationaux qui font fréquemment la navette entre les 2 pays, mais ils le font avec les 2 passeports. Dans ton cas, ça me semble bizarre... Mais, peut-être que je me trompe
Pour simplifier la chose, pourquoi ne pas demander un visa comme tout citoyen français ? Je sais... il faudrait que tu payes pour que tu rentres dans ton propre pays, mais c'est une solution rapide et radicale. En plus, par rapport à ton statut de journaliste tu seras peut-être un peu moins embêtée...
salut
en effet dans d'autre post certains ont pretendu avoir reussi plusieurs fois a se rendre en algerie avec passeport français+cni algerienne.
moi perso j'ai vu à annaba une personne se faire refouler car pas de visa et refus du policier à la frontiere de le laisser passer meme s'il avait une cni algerienne.
donc voila j'ai jamais voulu essayer je prefere avoir mon passeport algerien+ cni française.
sinon je te conseille de faire un visa, avec ton passeport français, rend toi au service visa, avec tout les papiers, ne parle pas de ton precedent probleme (transfert dossier, passeport perimé, que t'es journaliste etj 'en passe)
une personne a dit avoir obtenu son visa hier au consulat de pontoise en 3h pour un depart aujourd'hui (avec billet d'avion comme preuve)
donc faites en de meme cette semaine avant votre depart.(les consulats ouvrent du mardi au samedi)
sinon et bien allez en algerie avec passeport francais + cni algerienne et j'espere que ça passera vu que certains le pretendent cela doit etre vrai!
bon courage
en effet dans d'autre post certains ont pretendu avoir reussi plusieurs fois a se rendre en algerie avec passeport français+cni algerienne.
moi perso j'ai vu à annaba une personne se faire refouler car pas de visa et refus du policier à la frontiere de le laisser passer meme s'il avait une cni algerienne.
donc voila j'ai jamais voulu essayer je prefere avoir mon passeport algerien+ cni française.
sinon je te conseille de faire un visa, avec ton passeport français, rend toi au service visa, avec tout les papiers, ne parle pas de ton precedent probleme (transfert dossier, passeport perimé, que t'es journaliste etj 'en passe)
une personne a dit avoir obtenu son visa hier au consulat de pontoise en 3h pour un depart aujourd'hui (avec billet d'avion comme preuve)
donc faites en de meme cette semaine avant votre depart.(les consulats ouvrent du mardi au samedi)
sinon et bien allez en algerie avec passeport francais + cni algerienne et j'espere que ça passera vu que certains le pretendent cela doit etre vrai!
bon courage
j'ai peut etre pas tout compris mais pourquoi ne fais tu pas un visa touriste simple avec ton passeport français? c'est con tu vas payer 33 euros mais au mois tu partiras non? (il faut un certificat dhebergement mais c'est facile à obtenir en algérie ou sinon une resa d'hotel ou un livret de famile avec la photocopie d'un papier d'identité de tes parents ou mari s'il est algerien.
bonn courage je connais les consulats c'est pas toujours facile
Je réponds un peu tardivement aux échanges portant sur la possibilité d'aller en Algérie quand on est binational "Français-Algérien":
Je confirme qu'il suffit de présenter un passeport Français en cours de validité avec une CNI algérienne également en cours de validité pour se rendre en Algérie.
Je travaille actuellement en Algérie, suis bi-national ces informations sont donc vérifiées.
Inutile de gaspiller 33 €...une fois n'est pas coutûme notre statut de franco-algérien nous avantage..
A bientôt
ziz69a
slm, moi je sai que ma soeur a la double nationalité, pour partir il faut ton paseport algerien et pour le retour il fau ton pasepor francai ainssi ke ta carte didentité algerienne et francaise.
voila comen sa sai passer pour ma soeur
kel est l'interet d'avoir sa carte d'identité francaise si tu as ton passeport francais??? 😏
et bien je sai pas mai en tou je sai kil on demender a ma soeur sa carte didentité a mon avis sa depend des douaniers
le douanier n'a pas a demander la carte d'identité francaise si tu presentes un passeport francais 😛
et bien pour koi dans se cas la il nous lon demender?
Ben dans ce cas on ne peut pas repondre à "leur place" mais en tant que franco algerienne, je pars avec mon passeport français + ma cni algerienne, sans aucun souci et mes enfants pareil, comme deja dit par quelqu'un d'autre ici meme quelques post plus haut, voila c'est dit, après...
SO
pour ton info, un passeport c'est la carte d'identité internationale.
Le cni n'a aucune reconnaissance internationale
Le cni n'a aucune reconnaissance internationale
bonsoir,
je voudrais avoir un conseil de ta part
pourrai.je allez en algerie avec un passeport algerien et une carte identite algerienne
car jai perdu ma carte identite francaise
c tu si a la douane 'port car je pren le bateau' il demande la carte identite francaise?
je sais ke pour le retour il me fo ma carte identite francaise§!!!
Tu peux t'y rendre avec ton passeport algerien et ta carte d'identité algerienne.
Seulement lors de ton retour tu ne pourras pas sortir du pays, car tu n'auras pas ta carte d'identité française prouvant ta bi-nationalité et donc tu seras bloqué en algerie tu ne pourras plus sortir du territoire.
Si tu as le passeport français prend le avec toi.si tu ne l'as pas essaye de refaire ta carte d'identité française avant ton depart, si cela n'est pas possible annule ton sejour en algerie, car sinon tu ne reviendras pas en france.
Seulement lors de ton retour tu ne pourras pas sortir du pays, car tu n'auras pas ta carte d'identité française prouvant ta bi-nationalité et donc tu seras bloqué en algerie tu ne pourras plus sortir du territoire.
Si tu as le passeport français prend le avec toi.si tu ne l'as pas essaye de refaire ta carte d'identité française avant ton depart, si cela n'est pas possible annule ton sejour en algerie, car sinon tu ne reviendras pas en france.
😏bonjour merci de mavoir conseiller!
je vais refaire ma carte avant de partir.mais je pense ke la douane du port et la douane de laeroport ne controle pas la meme chose a laeroport il te demande pas la carte identite francaise allor ke le port je pense ke si
merci et bonne continuation rouya!
salut.. c quoi CNI? est ce que pour une francaise il faut le visa pour allé en algerie? merci🙂
fyufuyfuyfyufu
visa obligatoire pour une francaise pour aller en algerie
Carte Nationale d'Identité ( cni ) Si tu es française comme Nemo te l'a dit, le visa est obligatoire. Seuls les bi-nationaux n'y sont pas astreints s'ils présentent une cni algérienne, avec leur passeport français!
SO
CNI= Carte Nationale d'Identité
En France comme en Algérie, cela porte le même nom ce "document"...😉😉
Visa plus qu'obligatoire pour français &C° = 85 €
LILi
En France comme en Algérie, cela porte le même nom ce "document"...😉😉
Visa plus qu'obligatoire pour français &C° = 85 €
LILi
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
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Hi, are there any travelers who’ve recently crossed the border between Karakalpakstan (Uzbekistan) and Beineu in Kazakhstan?
It was closed for a while.
Thanks for any info!
Hi there,
I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April. My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date. Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry. However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Will Ryanair let me board in Beauvais in 3 weeks?
Thanks for your advice—this is a bit urgent 😕😕😕😕
I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April. My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date. Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry. However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Will Ryanair let me board in Beauvais in 3 weeks?
Thanks for your advice—this is a bit urgent 😕😕😕😕
Hello,
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht). This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea? Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast! Cheers, Bruno.
Hi there,
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Thanks so much for your answers! 🙂
Hi everyone,
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊




