Parcourir la Patagonie du sud au nord ou l'inverse fin novembre - décembre?
by Jédaille
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Amis du vf et del'Argentine bonjour;
je vais en Patagonie du 26 11 au 26 12 08 pour le climat est il préfèrable de partir vers le sud et de remonter vers le nord ou l'inverse?de plus est ce une bonne idée deprendre mon ordi...😊
merci d'avance a+
JD
Hola,
Nord-sud, Sud-Nord à cette époque peu d'importance, c'est l'été.
Sache juste que les baleines sont déjà parite de la péninsule de Valdez.
Concernant ton ordi... il y'a des connexions partout... heu tous les 300 km ...
Bien à toi
Enzo
Nord-sud, Sud-Nord à cette époque peu d'importance, c'est l'été.
Sache juste que les baleines sont déjà parite de la péninsule de Valdez.
Concernant ton ordi... il y'a des connexions partout... heu tous les 300 km ...
Bien à toi
Enzo
salut enzo et merci de ta reponse,
pour ce qui est de l'ordi c'est réglé car je suis entrain de faire le sac et zip l' ordi!!!😏
A+😏
JD
Cela peut etre une bonne idee de commencer par les endroits les plus touristiques (l'extreme Sud, sans doute) car vers Noel, beaucoup de monde.
Bonjour,
Quand nous sommes allés en Patagonie au mois de Novembre 2005, le 20 Novembre exactement, il y avait encore beaucoup de baleines dans la péninsule Valdès, et nous nous sommes régalés de les photographier sous tous les angles.
Je crois qu'elles repartent fin Décembre.
Bon voyage et prenez en plein les yeux.
François
je n'ai aucune idée sur le sens le plus adapté. Je ne pense pas que ce soit fondamental..;Par contre, oui si ton ordi n'est pas comme le mien trop pesant, c'est une bonne idée. La wifi s'est étendue dans l'argentine et tu pourras te connecter facilement partout. ( ou presque)
Nicole
Asso. Les Enfants d'Atacama (aide à la scolarisation dans les Andes Argentines- Prov. de Jujuy: San Juan de Quillaques; Puesto Sey et Huachichocana
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Amis du vf et de l'argentine bonjour.
Merci de toutes vos rèponses.Ce seras donc du nord au sud ...Et de toute façon apres il me faudra bien remonter😉😉🙁
Depart dans trois jours et je suis comme un gosse la veille de noel... à 😏bientot.
jedaille.😛
JD
Bon voyage et belles découvertes. Ne manque pas de passer qq temps à El Chalten. C'est trop beau!!!
Nicole
Asso. Les Enfants d'Atacama (aide à la scolarisation dans les Andes Argentines- Prov. de Jujuy: San Juan de Quillaques; Puesto Sey et Huachichocana
Les sites pour jeter un oeil:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/fal83
http://brondy.free.fr
Salut,
je viens de m'inscrire sur le site, malgré tout ce que j'ai pu lire d'intéressant des questions restent en suspens.
Je voulais savoir ce que tu pensais de mon itinéraire.... est ce faisable en 15 jours (sachant que je pense prendre qqs vols interieur )
Arrivée BA puis départ direct pour Puerto Madryn pour la visite de la peninsule valdes.
Le lendemain soir, s'il y a un vol (le sais tu???) départ pour El Chalten pour un treck puis direction El Calafate où je pense rester au moins 3 jours (glaciers, treck et parc nationale) . D ailleurs où est le plus jolie parc nationale???
Est ce necessaire d'aller à Puerto natales???
Puis arrivée à Ushuaia, par bus je pense, pour qqs jours aussi.... et retour par vol à BA.
Que faut il vraiment voir dans chacune de ces régions, est ce que je loupe des endroits magnifiques....
Si vous connaissez un peu les vols de ville en ville (y en a t il le soir...)
Beaucoup de questions je sais mais je rêve de ce voyage depuis si longtemps.
P.S: Est il necessaire de faire deja certaines reservations... hotel, vol, excursions...
Merci bcp.
Arrivée BA puis départ direct pour Puerto Madryn pour la visite de la peninsule valdes.
Le lendemain soir, s'il y a un vol (le sais tu???) départ pour El Chalten pour un treck puis direction El Calafate où je pense rester au moins 3 jours (glaciers, treck et parc nationale) . D ailleurs où est le plus jolie parc nationale???
Est ce necessaire d'aller à Puerto natales???
Puis arrivée à Ushuaia, par bus je pense, pour qqs jours aussi.... et retour par vol à BA.
Que faut il vraiment voir dans chacune de ces régions, est ce que je loupe des endroits magnifiques....
Si vous connaissez un peu les vols de ville en ville (y en a t il le soir...)
Beaucoup de questions je sais mais je rêve de ce voyage depuis si longtemps.
P.S: Est il necessaire de faire deja certaines reservations... hotel, vol, excursions...
Merci bcp.
Bonjour,
pour moi dans les endroits les plus splendides de patagonie il y a el calafate, el chalten (ces 2 la tu as prévu d'y aller) mais aussi Torres del paine au Chili. Il y a de magnifiques randonnées à faire. Mais tu n'auras peut etre pas le temps en 15 jours. Surtout que dans cette région du monde, meme en été, il ne fait pas toujours beau donc faut avoir un peu de marge, sinon tu risques de rater des trucs superbes.
bon voyage cécile
pour moi dans les endroits les plus splendides de patagonie il y a el calafate, el chalten (ces 2 la tu as prévu d'y aller) mais aussi Torres del paine au Chili. Il y a de magnifiques randonnées à faire. Mais tu n'auras peut etre pas le temps en 15 jours. Surtout que dans cette région du monde, meme en été, il ne fait pas toujours beau donc faut avoir un peu de marge, sinon tu risques de rater des trucs superbes.
bon voyage cécile
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Bonjour Zaga
Tout d'abord je pense que tu ne peux envisager de façon raisonnable et rationnelle d'aller dans la journée visiter la péninsule ( en quelle période? car selon sil n'y a pas les baleines, ça ne me parait pas indispensable d'y aller vu le peu de temps que tu as)et de repartir le soir. D'abord je ne pense pas qu'il y ait des vols le soir pour El Calafate ( El chalten, il te faudra y aller en bus depuis el calafate ). Il serait bien que tu aies 3 jours disponible pour el chalten ( le temps t'empêche des fois de profiter du spectacle du Fitz Roy et c'est vraiment dommage de repartir sans le découvrir) Pour El Calafate il te faut au moins 2 jours pleins: 1 pour le perito et l'autre pour une promenande sur le lago argentino...plus si tu souhaites faire des treks...ajoute du sup. Pour ma part, je ne connais pas Puerto Natales: donc aucun avis. Par contre , il serait préférable de prendre un vol sup pour aller à Ushuaia soit d'el calafate soit de Rio Gallegos ( 4 h de bus entre El Clafate et Rio G) Tu seras gagnant en temps. Mais c'est un avis. Pour les résa des vols, tu n'as pas intérêt à le faire de France. Tu verras sur place. Pour les excursions, tu trouveras également sans pb. N'hésite pas à contacter les offices de tourisme qui sont tjrs de bons conseils. Si tu as besoin d'adresses d'hotels , je peux te donner ceux q je connais ( tout dépend le type et le niveau d'hébergement tu recherches ) En clair si tu es en argentine entre début décembre et début septembre , les baleines ne sont pas présentes...alors qd on a pas bcp de jours, vaut mieux court-circuiter la péninsule et consacre plus de temps sur la zones des glaciers ains_i q Ushuaia ( 3 jours au moins avec des treks dans le parc de la terre de feu ( merveilleux!) N'hésite pas à me recontacter si tu penses q je peux t'apporter une aide intéressante.
Tout d'abord je pense que tu ne peux envisager de façon raisonnable et rationnelle d'aller dans la journée visiter la péninsule ( en quelle période? car selon sil n'y a pas les baleines, ça ne me parait pas indispensable d'y aller vu le peu de temps que tu as)et de repartir le soir. D'abord je ne pense pas qu'il y ait des vols le soir pour El Calafate ( El chalten, il te faudra y aller en bus depuis el calafate ). Il serait bien que tu aies 3 jours disponible pour el chalten ( le temps t'empêche des fois de profiter du spectacle du Fitz Roy et c'est vraiment dommage de repartir sans le découvrir) Pour El Calafate il te faut au moins 2 jours pleins: 1 pour le perito et l'autre pour une promenande sur le lago argentino...plus si tu souhaites faire des treks...ajoute du sup. Pour ma part, je ne connais pas Puerto Natales: donc aucun avis. Par contre , il serait préférable de prendre un vol sup pour aller à Ushuaia soit d'el calafate soit de Rio Gallegos ( 4 h de bus entre El Clafate et Rio G) Tu seras gagnant en temps. Mais c'est un avis. Pour les résa des vols, tu n'as pas intérêt à le faire de France. Tu verras sur place. Pour les excursions, tu trouveras également sans pb. N'hésite pas à contacter les offices de tourisme qui sont tjrs de bons conseils. Si tu as besoin d'adresses d'hotels , je peux te donner ceux q je connais ( tout dépend le type et le niveau d'hébergement tu recherches ) En clair si tu es en argentine entre début décembre et début septembre , les baleines ne sont pas présentes...alors qd on a pas bcp de jours, vaut mieux court-circuiter la péninsule et consacre plus de temps sur la zones des glaciers ains_i q Ushuaia ( 3 jours au moins avec des treks dans le parc de la terre de feu ( merveilleux!) N'hésite pas à me recontacter si tu penses q je peux t'apporter une aide intéressante.
Nicole
Asso. Les Enfants d'Atacama (aide à la scolarisation dans les Andes Argentines- Prov. de Jujuy: San Juan de Quillaques; Puesto Sey et Huachichocana
Les sites pour jeter un oeil:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/fal83
http://brondy.free.fr
Merci beaucoup pour vos réponses. Je pense alors ne pas faire la péninsule puisque j'arrive le 18 décembre..... plus de baleines??? et faire à ce moment si le parc nationale Torres del plane.
Par contre est ce que dans le sud il y a des animaux... j'ai vraiment envie de voir une colonie de manchots et autres espèces.
Est ce que vous avez le souvenir de pouvoir faire du chiens de traineaux et de la plongee, si oui où???
Merci encore, vous m'apporter bcp pour la préparation de mon voyage.
Est ce que vous avez le souvenir de pouvoir faire du chiens de traineaux et de la plongee, si oui où???
Merci encore, vous m'apporter bcp pour la préparation de mon voyage.
Effectivement les baleines partent début décembre. Même si quelques unes peuvent être plus tardives à repartir ( cela dépend aussi des années parait-il ) les voir quand il n'y en a presque pas relève de l'exploit.
Il est bien évidemment possible de voir les colonies de manchots et de lions de mer à Ushuaia en faisant la découverte en bateau du Canal de Beagle. Se renseigner sur les différentes sociétés qui font la navigation pour être sur de choisir une qui fait qq chose d'assez complet. J'avais pris Rumbo Sur mais c'est un gros bateau. Si vous pouvez essayer d'avoir los tres maria, qui est plus convivial ( difficile à avoir de la place à bord cependant )
Je suis incompétente pour le chien de traineau et la plongée
je viens de trouver sur internet:
http://www.monnuage.fr/tag/chiens-traineau-ushuaia-c9642
à qq km au nord d'ushuaia, il doit y avoir de la neige dans la fin de la cordillère, à peu près toute l'année.
Pour la plongée, apparemment c'est uniquement autour de P Madryn http://www.argentina-excepcion.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1052 Bon choix pour tout mais de toute façon quel q soit le choix, ce sera fantastique. Et si vous êtes jeune, vous y retournerez!
Pour la plongée, apparemment c'est uniquement autour de P Madryn http://www.argentina-excepcion.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1052 Bon choix pour tout mais de toute façon quel q soit le choix, ce sera fantastique. Et si vous êtes jeune, vous y retournerez!
Nicole
Asso. Les Enfants d'Atacama (aide à la scolarisation dans les Andes Argentines- Prov. de Jujuy: San Juan de Quillaques; Puesto Sey et Huachichocana
Les sites pour jeter un oeil:
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http://brondy.free.fr
Merci pour ces recherches...
J'ai pris contact avec l'agence équinoxe, conseiller par certains du forum. Il me conseille de prendre les vols avant par crainte de ne plus avoir de place apres... je sais que c'est leur boulot aussi lol. Que me conseilles- tu ??? Est ce que tu as des soucis avec les vols internes, je les trouve un peu cher par rapport à d autres prix sur place mais apparemment ils sont plus surs, niveau horaire... je ne sais pas quoi penser!!!
Finalement je suivrai ton conseil, on ira pas à la péninsule, il n'y aura pas de baleines et ca fait un détour. On fera une petite virée sur le canal de Beagle pour voir les "petits" animaux.
Niveau hotel je veux bien qqs tuyaux, nous aimerons des hotels pas trop chers voire même des auberges.
L'aeroport d'Ushuaia se situe t-il au nord ou au Sud, pour prevoir un temps de transport. D'ailleurs faut il y a t il des choses interessantes dans le nord ou tout se trouve au sud?
Je te remercie encore de prendre le tps de me repondre...
bonne journée caniculaire... lol
J'ai pris contact avec l'agence équinoxe, conseiller par certains du forum. Il me conseille de prendre les vols avant par crainte de ne plus avoir de place apres... je sais que c'est leur boulot aussi lol. Que me conseilles- tu ??? Est ce que tu as des soucis avec les vols internes, je les trouve un peu cher par rapport à d autres prix sur place mais apparemment ils sont plus surs, niveau horaire... je ne sais pas quoi penser!!!
Finalement je suivrai ton conseil, on ira pas à la péninsule, il n'y aura pas de baleines et ca fait un détour. On fera une petite virée sur le canal de Beagle pour voir les "petits" animaux.
Niveau hotel je veux bien qqs tuyaux, nous aimerons des hotels pas trop chers voire même des auberges.
L'aeroport d'Ushuaia se situe t-il au nord ou au Sud, pour prevoir un temps de transport. D'ailleurs faut il y a t il des choses interessantes dans le nord ou tout se trouve au sud?
Je te remercie encore de prendre le tps de me repondre...
bonne journée caniculaire... lol
Zaga, tu as un fixe pour q je t'appelle? C plus rapide pour moi pour répondre à tes questions
Si oui, donne moi le n° sur mon mail perso nicole.brondy@wanadoo.fr
Nicole
Asso. Les Enfants d'Atacama (aide à la scolarisation dans les Andes Argentines- Prov. de Jujuy: San Juan de Quillaques; Puesto Sey et Huachichocana
Les sites pour jeter un oeil:
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/fal83
http://brondy.free.fr
Salut pour info,
nous sommes allés voir les manchots à Puerto San Julian, nous étions sur un tout petit bateau, que tous les 3 avec qq'un qui condusait le bateau et une "guide", c'était très sympa. Je ne peux pas comparer par rapport à Ushuaia car nous ne sommes pas allés voir les manchots a ushuaia (on a eu l'impression que c'était une "grosse usine à touristes" ).
bon voyage Cécile
bon voyage Cécile
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From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
Hi there,
Do you have any recommendations for comfortable accommodation in Leyva and Barichara? We're also looking for a guide to explore the areas around these two towns (parks, waterfalls, etc.).
Thanks for your tips!
I visited Colombia in January 2016 and I’m heading back from August 6th to 17th with the same airline to see how things have changed. Starting August 18th, I’ll continue with independent exploration. I prefer slow travel and enjoying places at my own pace.
Any tips—especially for getting around or must-see spots—are welcome!
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Hi there,
Three years ago during a trip to Java (no, I didn’t post in the wrong forum!), I came across the address of former miners who had switched to “tourism” and organized nighttime ascents of the Kawah Ijen volcano and descents into the crater.
So I was thinking—maybe there are miners on the salt flats too, either former or still active, who do the same thing. If you’ve had an experience like this, I’d love any tips you can share.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there, since there isn’t much recent info on how to get to MP, I’d love to know if there have been any improvements to the "route" to Hydroelectrica. Is it feasible to drive there in February? And is it still possible to walk all the way to Aguas Calientes? I think I read somewhere that it’s no longer allowed??
Do you think I can buy Machu Picchu entrance tickets last-minute at that time of year, given the weather?
Hello everyone!
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine