Un petit moment que je ne suis pas passé dans ces endroits . Il y a deux ans j'ai loupé Knob A Tazzarine en suivant la n12 😕. J'aimerais savoir si on peut joindre Knob en partant de Boulmane , sur la Michelin c'est une piste qui passe par le col . Le goudron avançant à grands pas peut être que la piste est devenue une superbe route ?
De Boulmane à Knob
by Hannahannah
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous ,
Un petit moment que je ne suis pas passé dans ces endroits . Il y a deux ans j'ai loupé Knob A Tazzarine en suivant la n12 😕. J'aimerais savoir si on peut joindre Knob en partant de Boulmane , sur la Michelin c'est une piste qui passe par le col . Le goudron avançant à grands pas peut être que la piste est devenue une superbe route ?
Un petit moment que je ne suis pas passé dans ces endroits . Il y a deux ans j'ai loupé Knob A Tazzarine en suivant la n12 😕. J'aimerais savoir si on peut joindre Knob en partant de Boulmane , sur la Michelin c'est une piste qui passe par le col . Le goudron avançant à grands pas peut être que la piste est devenue une superbe route ?
Que se vuelva la tortilla
j'ai lu une info la dessus y'a quelque temps, je crois que c'est de la route maintenant...
Ce serait bien , Je n'ai rien trouvé . Rien non plus sur le routard .
De Tinehrir A Asni lä route est tres bonne aussi , ( en piste sur la Michelin, goudronnee depuis des années ) mais je souhaiterais couper directement pour les paysages .
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Heu tu veux parler du col de Tazazert ? Qui passe par Bab n' ali et Ikioun ?
Oui oui vas y fonce... c'est du billard...😎
J'rigole... Non ce n'est pas goudronné. Le goudron se termine quelques km après Ikioun... Après... Y a un truc qui ressemble à une piste...
C'est un peu plus tendu que de faire la piste qui va du Dadès à la vallée des roses cependant...😇
Oui oui vas y fonce... c'est du billard...😎
J'rigole... Non ce n'est pas goudronné. Le goudron se termine quelques km après Ikioun... Après... Y a un truc qui ressemble à une piste...
C'est un peu plus tendu que de faire la piste qui va du Dadès à la vallée des roses cependant...😇
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
En passant. Il est plus simple de faire la piste dans ce sens là que de remonter par Nkob... Enfin en voiture de loc... la dernière fois, Raoulx a marché de long moment devant la 205 pour m'aider à choisir les bons passages...
Ça passe certes mais pas simple... En tout cas... Les paysages sont tout simplement somptueux.
Ça passe certes mais pas simple... En tout cas... Les paysages sont tout simplement somptueux.
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Ben oui , il me semblait qu'il y en avait une parallèle mais moins haute , j'ai du rever .
Meme pas en reve avec une voiture de loc ....la piste du Tazazert .
Mais bon , je peux tout de même zoner vers Bab n'ali si c'est goudronné . C'est bien dans ces coins qu'il y a des peintures rupestres et un gîte isolé ?
Merci pour la mauvaise nouvelle Olivier .
Que se vuelva la tortilla
Nan , j'y vais pas , et comme d'habitude seule je me vois mal dresser un drone pour m'indiquer les passages 😉
Ça ressemble un peu ça le paysage il me semble ( photo prise dans l'Anti Atlas)


Que se vuelva la tortilla
Bab n'ali en partant de Nkob oui ça passe bien par contre. Non pas de goudron mais belle piste... Par contre ce n'est pas si simple au début de trouver la bonne piste.. y en a un paquet.. faut quitter une bonne piste pour traverser l'oued... Piste moyenne au début mais après c'est bien mieux...
Ah oui... c'est joli... y a quelques trucs pour dormir et manger sur place... la principale auberge je n'aime pas. Prix abussif mais surtout la bouffe est mauvaise et c'est dur d'avoir un sourir... vraiment pas sympa. Je n'ai jamais entendu parler de nouvelle route goudronnée entre le tazazert et celle d'Alnif mais ça va si vite comme tu le dis...
Je ne conseille pas en tout cas en voiture de loc. Et c'est rare que je déconseille de tenter quelque chose..
Je ne conseille pas en tout cas en voiture de loc. Et c'est rare que je déconseille de tenter quelque chose..
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Je confirme l'avis de Voyageur, la piste est encore un peu trop hard pour une voiture de tourisme.
Avec un Duster, en roulant calme, ça doit passer.
En tout cas, il est préférable de faire cette piste dans le sens Iknioun-Nkob, autant pour les vues que pour la conduite : la voiture souffre moins dans une descente pierreuse que dans une montée.
chibani
Bonjour,
Il y a qq temps, pour nous, c'était le Tazzazert et descente "Directe" sur la rte à 8km de Boulmane.
Il avait du pleuvoir qq temps avant car la piste semblait "lavée" avec, côté nord, la roche bien apparente;
En y allant mollo, aucun pb (mais Toy KDJ120).
Aucun pb nom plus pour trouver la piste; Je m'étais "bricolé" un road-book à partir du tracé "Gandini" que j'avais "inversé" pour une lecture dans le sens Sud-Nord.
Je ne sais pas comment est le col aujourd'hui. Mais quand nous l'avons fait, et dans le sens Sud-Nord, 4x4 obligatoire.
Mais dans le sens Nord-Sud, avec qq chose de "haut sur pattes" ?????
A+?
Razul
Fait en 205 en novembre 2016. Et y a quelques années en 21 nevada. 4x4 pas obligatoire...😛
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
J'aimerais savoir si on peut joindre Knob en partant de Boulmane
Bonjour !
Sauf vot' respect, il y a un petit problème avec les toponymes... C'est Boumalne, pas Boulmane, et Nkob, ou Nekob, pas Knob. 😉
Pour le trajet Boumalne-Nekob, je n'y suis pas passé très récemment, mais il m'étonnerait beaucoup que l'on ait goudronné le Tizi n'Tzazert, et c'est tant mieux, car qui dit goudron dit béton... Et l'endroit mérite le respect.
Par ailleurs, cet axe, créé lors de la "pacification" dans les années 30, ne présente aucun intérêt socio-économique de nos jours. Évidemment, on pourrait goudronner, comme on l'a fait ailleurs, "pour plaire aux touristes".
Bonjour !
Sauf vot' respect, il y a un petit problème avec les toponymes... C'est Boumalne, pas Boulmane, et Nkob, ou Nekob, pas Knob. 😉
Pour le trajet Boumalne-Nekob, je n'y suis pas passé très récemment, mais il m'étonnerait beaucoup que l'on ait goudronné le Tizi n'Tzazert, et c'est tant mieux, car qui dit goudron dit béton... Et l'endroit mérite le respect.
Par ailleurs, cet axe, créé lors de la "pacification" dans les années 30, ne présente aucun intérêt socio-économique de nos jours. Évidemment, on pourrait goudronner, comme on l'a fait ailleurs, "pour plaire aux touristes".
Salut ,
Ouf , heureusement que nous avons la bonne personne pour faire les rectifications . Je me couvre la tête de cendres ....je reconnais tout ...Alnif et non Asni , ah les patates du routard à Alnif . Pour Nkob j'ai meme vu sur Google maps je crois .Nkoub . Bref , tout le monde auras pu déceler les séquelles de ma légendaire dyslexie 😉 Pas de goudron et tant mieux , mais certains touristes aiment ça et se plaignent de ne plus avoir de pistes de jeux pour faire vroum, vroum . A chacun son tourisme , je suppose que le long de cet axe il n'y a pas de population qui ait besoin du goudron . J'ai du confondre la route qui coupe pour aller à Alnif avec cette piste . Un lien pour expliquer comment cet axe à ete créé? Bien, je serais donc obligé , si je passe dans le coin, d'aller manger des frites a Alnif , je n'y couperais pas .
Ouf , heureusement que nous avons la bonne personne pour faire les rectifications . Je me couvre la tête de cendres ....je reconnais tout ...Alnif et non Asni , ah les patates du routard à Alnif . Pour Nkob j'ai meme vu sur Google maps je crois .Nkoub . Bref , tout le monde auras pu déceler les séquelles de ma légendaire dyslexie 😉 Pas de goudron et tant mieux , mais certains touristes aiment ça et se plaignent de ne plus avoir de pistes de jeux pour faire vroum, vroum . A chacun son tourisme , je suppose que le long de cet axe il n'y a pas de population qui ait besoin du goudron . J'ai du confondre la route qui coupe pour aller à Alnif avec cette piste . Un lien pour expliquer comment cet axe à ete créé? Bien, je serais donc obligé , si je passe dans le coin, d'aller manger des frites a Alnif , je n'y couperais pas .
Que se vuelva la tortilla
"Sauf vot' respect, il y a un petit problème avec les toponymes..
C'est Boumalne, pas Boulmane, et Nkob, ou Nekob, pas Knob." 😉
je suis tombée de mon cocotier, car j'employais moi aussi cette orthographe ... et pour les deux villes.😕
merci de la rectif. 🙂
je suis tombée de mon cocotier, car j'employais moi aussi cette orthographe ... et pour les deux villes.😕
merci de la rectif. 🙂
Salut Hannah,
La "piste" du Tazzazert ?
Je crois avoir lu qq part que c'était du bon vieux temps de la colonisation !
Pas loin du col, côté nord, je crois me souvenir d'une "Stèle" rappelant le truc, un peu dans le genre de celle du "Tunnel du Légionnaire".
Enfin, l’intérêt de la piste du Tazzazert ? = Pour un "touriste", les paysages du versant Sud !
A+?
Razul
La "piste" du Tazzazert ? Je crois avoir lu qq part que c'était du bon vieux temps de la colonisation !
Oui, dans les années 30, en liaison avec les combats de Bougafer en février 1933. Souvenir colonial, ce panneau, situé au pied sud du Tazazert (Photo de 1976, panneau probablement disparu depuis). EL AZIB. Altitude 1520 m. Point d'eau. Montée raide sur 12 km. VERIFIEZ VOS RADIATEURS.
Pas loin du col, côté nord, je crois me souvenir d'une "Stèle" rappelant le truc
S'il s'agit de la stèle ci-dessous, elle n'est pas sur la piste du Tazazert, mais sur celle de Bougafer (une des liaisons Iknioun-Alnif), souvent quasi-impraticable (saignées à combler, blocs à déplacer et demi-tours problématiques...).

Oui, dans les années 30, en liaison avec les combats de Bougafer en février 1933. Souvenir colonial, ce panneau, situé au pied sud du Tazazert (Photo de 1976, panneau probablement disparu depuis). EL AZIB. Altitude 1520 m. Point d'eau. Montée raide sur 12 km. VERIFIEZ VOS RADIATEURS.

Pas loin du col, côté nord, je crois me souvenir d'une "Stèle" rappelant le truc
S'il s'agit de la stèle ci-dessous, elle n'est pas sur la piste du Tazazert, mais sur celle de Bougafer (une des liaisons Iknioun-Alnif), souvent quasi-impraticable (saignées à combler, blocs à déplacer et demi-tours problématiques...).

Salut,
Dur de vieillir!
J'ai retrouvé mes notes d'avril 2010.
Pas de stèle au nord juste après le col !
Razul
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.








