Niveau de danger à Rio de Janeiro?
by Louduquebec
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Nous pourrions passer quelques jours à Rio début mars 2008. Nous avons jusqu'à maintenant beaucoup voyagé en Europe et en Amérique du Nord . Jamais je n'ai vu autant de mises en garde pour la sécurité que dans les guides que j'ai consultés pour le Brésil. Ils ont plus qu'une page chacun de recommandations et sont plus inquiétants les uns que les autres. Alors qu'en est-il vraiment? Nous sommes un couple dans la cinquantaine, avec valises puisque mes épaules ne me pardonneraient jamais un sac à dos, et nous avons à notre actif 2 expériences en Russie de vol sans agression, malgré toutes nos précautions. Cela m'a un peu traumatisée et je sais maintenant qu'être victime d'agression me gâcherait complètement le voyage. Le risque est-il assez élevé pour être mieux de laisser tomber?
merci beaucoup de partager votre expérience. Cela m'aidera à faire la part des choses.
lou
Bonjour
Rio comme toutes les grandes villes du monde a un risque certain, mais pas pire que a Paris ou New York, pour ma part j avais ete agresse a Paris en pleine gare de l Est a 14h00 Il faut respecter les consignes de securite et ne pas vous promener le soir dans des endroits isoles ou mal eclaire loin du centre touristique . Pas d appareil photo pendu en bandouillere, pas de bijoux, ou montre en or, n echangez pas votre argent avec n importe qui dans la rue mais seulement dans une banque ( banco do brasil par exemple ) En respectant les consignes de securite relatif aux grandes villes du monde rien ne vous arrivera, il y a une certaine parano quand on parle de Rio de Janeiro en ce moment .. J habire Rio depuis 1980 et je n ai jamais ete agresse ou vole dans la rue, et pourtant je me deplace beaucoup de jour comme de nuit.
je reste a votre disposition pour d autres informations
a bientot jean marc/ rio de janeiro
Rio comme toutes les grandes villes du monde a un risque certain, mais pas pire que a Paris ou New York, pour ma part j avais ete agresse a Paris en pleine gare de l Est a 14h00 Il faut respecter les consignes de securite et ne pas vous promener le soir dans des endroits isoles ou mal eclaire loin du centre touristique . Pas d appareil photo pendu en bandouillere, pas de bijoux, ou montre en or, n echangez pas votre argent avec n importe qui dans la rue mais seulement dans une banque ( banco do brasil par exemple ) En respectant les consignes de securite relatif aux grandes villes du monde rien ne vous arrivera, il y a une certaine parano quand on parle de Rio de Janeiro en ce moment .. J habire Rio depuis 1980 et je n ai jamais ete agresse ou vole dans la rue, et pourtant je me deplace beaucoup de jour comme de nuit.
je reste a votre disposition pour d autres informations
a bientot jean marc/ rio de janeiro
merci beaucoup de votre réponse. Ca me rassure d'autant plus que vous résidez à Rio.
Nous n'aurons que quelques jours, environ 3, à passer à Rio. Dans ce contexte que nous conseillez-vous pour visiter la ville? Puisque nous n'aurons pas vraiment le temps de nous familiariser avec la ville, serait-il mieux de regarder du côté des visites guidées pour des endroits excentriques comme le Christ Rédempteur ou les écoles de samba? J'ai vu sur Internet qu'on pouvait trouver des agences, qui pouvaient offrir chambres d'hotel et visites guidées. Est-ce que cela en vaut la peine (et le coût)?
Merci encore une fois. Cette ville semble tellement fascinante qu'on voudrait en profiter au max!
lou
Bonjour, je pense que pour votre sejour a rio il serait dommage de ne pas monter au christ de corcovado et aussi au pain de sucre !! Cela fait peut etre tres cliches cartes postales mais la vue, et vos propres photos que vous ramenerai de la haut seront innoubliables ! Pour ma part je suis allé a rio fin janvier et j'y repars dans dix jours !! et meme si je l'ai deja fais je remonterai au christ et au pain de sucre !!
yves
Salut🙂, j'ai passé deux et demie à Rio sur Copacabana en 2004.Moi aussi j'étais très inquiet car j'avais été sur ce site
http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/conseils-aux-voyageurs_909/pays_12191/bresil_12219/index.html
En faite une fois sur place, j'ai compris le pourquoi de "Rio ville dangereuse".J'ai vu des français se baladaient en veste, casquette lacoste et se comportaient comme si ils étaient en plein Paris, quand je les ai appelé, ils ne m'ont meme pas entendu.Pas étonnant que ce genre de touristes rencontrent des problémes... Mais le comportement le plus fou que j'ai vu là-bas, c'était un français qui se baladaeint avec un beau boudha en or autour du cou.Et de maniére bien visible avec ces potes français...Je l'ai prévénu mais le mec se croyait en thailande(il en revenait) et jouait les gros bras...Et d'autres trucs aussi fou comme ce touriste qui sort d'un centre commercial et qui mangeait un gateau.et qui envoyé chier les mendiants.Il a eu quelques problémes par la suite... Ou ce suisse qui c'était fait assassiné, il avait sorti la liasse devant une prostitué qui est très vite revenu avec du monde...
Après t'as ces types qui vont revenir et dire "oulàlà!Rio, le Brésil c'est dangereux, il m'est arrivé ça et ça!". Mais faut voir leur comportement, on ne peut pas se comporter à Rio comme on se comporterait dans une ville française de province.
Je pense qu'en respectant les régles basiques de sécurité.Y a pas de problémes!Surtout si vous restez que 3 jours...Après c'est la vie, les risques on commence à en prendre à partir du moment qu'on se léve le matin.
Bon séjour!
A plus Lexa😎
En faite une fois sur place, j'ai compris le pourquoi de "Rio ville dangereuse".J'ai vu des français se baladaient en veste, casquette lacoste et se comportaient comme si ils étaient en plein Paris, quand je les ai appelé, ils ne m'ont meme pas entendu.Pas étonnant que ce genre de touristes rencontrent des problémes... Mais le comportement le plus fou que j'ai vu là-bas, c'était un français qui se baladaeint avec un beau boudha en or autour du cou.Et de maniére bien visible avec ces potes français...Je l'ai prévénu mais le mec se croyait en thailande(il en revenait) et jouait les gros bras...Et d'autres trucs aussi fou comme ce touriste qui sort d'un centre commercial et qui mangeait un gateau.et qui envoyé chier les mendiants.Il a eu quelques problémes par la suite... Ou ce suisse qui c'était fait assassiné, il avait sorti la liasse devant une prostitué qui est très vite revenu avec du monde...
Après t'as ces types qui vont revenir et dire "oulàlà!Rio, le Brésil c'est dangereux, il m'est arrivé ça et ça!". Mais faut voir leur comportement, on ne peut pas se comporter à Rio comme on se comporterait dans une ville française de province.
Je pense qu'en respectant les régles basiques de sécurité.Y a pas de problémes!Surtout si vous restez que 3 jours...Après c'est la vie, les risques on commence à en prendre à partir du moment qu'on se léve le matin.
Bon séjour!
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Bonjour
3 Jours a Rio c est vraiment tres peut de temps pour tout visiter .. Il existe des hotels avec cette possibilite de guide de tourisme et tour guidé ce qui serait certainement le meilleur pour vous, je ne saurai sincerement pas te repondre sur les prix mais c est acceptable, certaines agences de tourisme organisent egalement ce genred e visite .
En dehors de la visite guidée, il y a aussi le jardin botanique situe dans le quartier de jardim botanico, c est interessant pour vous de le connaitre .. La nuit allez dans une des innombrables boites de Rio ou piano bar, il y en a des excelents comme le chico´s bar situé a lagoa et biend autres encore
dommage que vous ne restez que 3 jours ...
n hesitez pas a me contacter pour me poser vos questions
a bientot jean marc / rio de janeiro
3 Jours a Rio c est vraiment tres peut de temps pour tout visiter .. Il existe des hotels avec cette possibilite de guide de tourisme et tour guidé ce qui serait certainement le meilleur pour vous, je ne saurai sincerement pas te repondre sur les prix mais c est acceptable, certaines agences de tourisme organisent egalement ce genred e visite .
En dehors de la visite guidée, il y a aussi le jardin botanique situe dans le quartier de jardim botanico, c est interessant pour vous de le connaitre .. La nuit allez dans une des innombrables boites de Rio ou piano bar, il y en a des excelents comme le chico´s bar situé a lagoa et biend autres encore
dommage que vous ne restez que 3 jours ...
n hesitez pas a me contacter pour me poser vos questions
a bientot jean marc / rio de janeiro
Bonjour,
Nous aussi nous avons voyagé (couple de 50 ans) à Rio et Salvador. Pas de crainte si vous planquez tout sur vous (pochette sous la ceinture par exemple avec le strict nécessaire pour la journée et une COPIE de votre passeport). Ne pas vous aventurer hors de sentiers battus, surout le soir. Sinon ce n'est pas pire qu'à Paris ou Bruxelles - nous sommes allés à Mexico - exactement les mêmes conditions ...
Bon voyage, profitez bien de Rio - c'est une ville superbe - un dernier conseil : joignez un groupe pour visiter Pain de Sucre et Corcovado => pas de danger majeur si vous respectez ces consignes élémentaires.
Marie-Paule
Bonjour
Depuis quelques années deja les aguas de Março n apparaissent plus en Mars mais plutot un soleil de plomb comme le mois de Mars passé avec en moyenne une temperature de 37 degrés culminant a 41 degrés certains jours ...
a bientot jean marc/ rio de janeiro
Depuis quelques années deja les aguas de Março n apparaissent plus en Mars mais plutot un soleil de plomb comme le mois de Mars passé avec en moyenne une temperature de 37 degrés culminant a 41 degrés certains jours ...
a bientot jean marc/ rio de janeiro
Je reviens du Brésil où je viens de passer pres de deux semaines seule, dont cinq jours à Rio. Je suis arrivée terrorisée d'avance par tout ce que j'avais lu et entendu. J'ai découvert une ville merveilleuse et n'ai jamais eu peur à aucun instant. J'ai respecté les régles de sécurité les plus élémentaires, je n'ai pas "tenté le diable", j'en ai profité pour refaire ma garde-robe estivale sur place, histoire de me fondre le plus posssible dans la foule.
Petit conseil pour destresser : j'avais trouvé sur un forum un taxi parlant français pour venir me chercher à l'aéroport et réservé une guide francophone pour la première matinée. Je lui ai demandé de me faire visiter ce qu'elle avait envie de me montrer, en dehors de sentiers battus, et également de m'expliquer comment on circule en taxi, en bus, en métro. Mon appréhension s'est envolée d'un seul coup! Je ne regrette pas l'investissement.
J'ai également logé chez l'habitant, qui s'est révélé être une mine d'adresses et de conseils.
Bref, mettez vos bjoux au coffre avant de partir, achetez vous des tongs dès votre arrivée et je suis sûre que vous vous suprendrez bien vite à prendre goût au charme très cool de cette ville qu'en simple touriste, j'ai trouvée magique.
nous sommes allés 2 fois au brésil, sac à dos, voyage en bus...et l'autre fois en louant une voiture..nous n avons rien vu et ne nous sommes pas senti en insécurité: nous y retournons dans 1 mois avec notre camping-car...voici notre blog si vous voulez nous suivre...le pays est magnifique
http://latinotour.blogs-de-voyage.fr/
syl et eddy
syl et eddy
http://latinotour.blogs-de-voyage.fr/
Merci beaucoup à tous. Je suis contente de voir que je ne suis pas la seule à avoir eu cette reaction de peur. C'est très sympa de me rassurer ainsi à plusieurs. J'aimerais savoir, HopHopHop, où tu as trouvé le nom d'un chauffeur de taxi qui parlait francais et comment tu t'y es pris pour le réserver de l'aéroport. Est-ce quelqu'un connait également une agence responsable avec guides qui parlent francais qu'il pourrait nous recommander? J'aimerais explorer cette possibilité, entre autre, pour nous rendre dans la foret de Tijuca et voir le Corcovado.
Je suis bien heureuse également d'apprendre que les douches froides de mars ne sont plus en mars. On a beau être du Québec, vivre actuellement une tempête de neige, de pluie et de vents comme ce n'est pas possible, cela ne fait pas de nous des gens qui aiment ca!
lou
Bonjour
Rassurée maintenant ? Pour le chauffeur de taxi parlant français renseigne toi aupres des compagnies de taxi de l aeroport ils vont t en trouver un sans aucun doute possible . Pour la visite guidée avec guide parlant le Français les agences de voyage vont te trouver cela au pire dirige toi chez Riotur ( office de tourisme de Rio ) dans le centre ville ils vont t en indiquer des tas aussi . Je reste a ta disposition
a bientot jean marc
Rassurée maintenant ? Pour le chauffeur de taxi parlant français renseigne toi aupres des compagnies de taxi de l aeroport ils vont t en trouver un sans aucun doute possible . Pour la visite guidée avec guide parlant le Français les agences de voyage vont te trouver cela au pire dirige toi chez Riotur ( office de tourisme de Rio ) dans le centre ville ils vont t en indiquer des tas aussi . Je reste a ta disposition
a bientot jean marc
Bonjour Louise,
je suis de Montréal et je pars pour un 1er voyage au Brésil samedi le 5 mai 2007 pour 1 mois. Je serai à Rio où je demeurerai dans le quartier Copacabana chez un ami carioca que j'ai hébergé à Montréal l'an passé. Je pourrai te donner mes impressions quand je serai la-bas. J'ai quelques amis à Rio et un d'eux est agent de voyage. Il est portugais, mais parle très bien anglais et parle le français aussi. Il pourraît sûrement te donner des bons conseils et il est super gentil. Je clavarde plusieurs fois par semaine avec lui. Je visiterai aussi le nord-est du Brésil (Salvador de Bahia et le Céara). Communique avec moi si tu veux en savoir d'avantage.
Yvan Montréal
je suis de Montréal et je pars pour un 1er voyage au Brésil samedi le 5 mai 2007 pour 1 mois. Je serai à Rio où je demeurerai dans le quartier Copacabana chez un ami carioca que j'ai hébergé à Montréal l'an passé. Je pourrai te donner mes impressions quand je serai la-bas. J'ai quelques amis à Rio et un d'eux est agent de voyage. Il est portugais, mais parle très bien anglais et parle le français aussi. Il pourraît sûrement te donner des bons conseils et il est super gentil. Je clavarde plusieurs fois par semaine avec lui. Je visiterai aussi le nord-est du Brésil (Salvador de Bahia et le Céara). Communique avec moi si tu veux en savoir d'avantage.
Yvan Montréal
Bonsoir,
je vous envoie ce mail car j'ai lu que vous viviez à Rio, et que vous êtes très confiant contrairement au dire des gens...
Je suis étudiante et je vais aller à Rio durant la période du carnaval, le souci est que je vais être seule, mon amie s'étant désistée après que j'ai pris mon billet qui n'est pas remboursable, donc en tout les cas je vais y aller...
Je voudrais savoir s'il y a réelle danger à ce que je me balade seule dans la ville; est ce qu'il y a vraiment danger à craindre???
est ce que durant le festival le danger est plus fort, car j'ai entendu dire que des gens se font écraser par la foule....
et à chaque fois que j'en parle à quelqu'un il me sort des trucs comme ça, tellement que je commence à avoir peur sachant que je n'ai pas envie que mon séjour soit gâché...
Merci de me répondre
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Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?




