L hotel Savoy hotton Travel est tres bien placé dans la ville prêt de tout ..c est un des grands hôtels de Rio de Janeiro, il me semble qu il est a Avenida Nossa senhora de copacabana nr 995, c est tres bien plaçé ..
Tu es a 5 mn de bus de Ipanema et leblon, a 10 mn de bus du centre ville et a 25 mn de bus de Barra da tijuca ( une autre grande plage )
Tu as le " centre commercial Rio sul " dans le quartier de Botafogo, c est tres pret de la ou tu seras, en moyenne 5 a 8 mn de bus ..
Aucun probleme pour visiter tout cela en trois jours mais visite aussi le jardim botanico et la foret de Tijuca pour voir les cascades, en trois jours tu pourras faire tout cela sans aucun problème .
Pour le quartier historique de Rio tu as le musée do paço imperial et le convento de santo antonio ( a coté du métro carioca ) ç est splendide tu vas adorer .
A ipanema, tu as un marché d artisanat a la " praça general osorio" tous les dimanches, ça vaut egalement la peine de voir .. a Ipanema tu trouveras des tas de petites galleries commerciales, les plus connues sont forum ipanema etc etc etc il y en a des tas c est presque en face de la praça da paz, il y a une petite eglise mignonne egalement face a la place ( igreja nossa senhora da paz )
je reste a ta disposition pour plus d informations ..
ok merci bocoup jean marc j'aurais voulu aussi savoir, voila l'agence avec qui nous parton nous a proposer les excursion du corcovado pour 100 euro /pers ainsi que le pain de sucre pour 90 euros/pers mais nous avons refusé car on trouver que sa fesait un peu cher alors j'aurais voulu savoir si on fais c'est excursion sur place combien cela nous couteras une fois sur place? y'a t'il besoin de guide? car ce que nous propose l'agence il ya un guide pour ces visites conpris dans le prix? mais cela fait tres cher😐😐.alors comme ces notre premier voyage on veu pas se perdre une fois sur place ou se faire avoir... voila j'espere que vous pourrez un peu plus nous aidez encore une fois merci bocoup. a++🙂🙂
ps:j'avez oublier si vous connessez le prix des visites au maracana ? merciii🙂
Tu n as absolument aucun besoin de guide de tourisme pour visiter le corcovado et le pain de sucre, tu peux faire cela très facilement toi même, mais pour accéder au Corcovado il te faudra prendre un taxi, le taxi te raménera jusque aux pieds (ou presque ) du Christ, ensuite pour aller pret de la statue tu prends un excalier roulant la vue est splendide ..
Pour le pain de sucre tu pourras prendre un bus direction Club nautique de rio de janeiro (Iat club do Rio de Janeiro ) l entrée pour le pain de sucre ( le telepherique ) est a 5 mn a pieds ..
De copacabana pour aller au pain de sucre, prend un bus qui va au centre ville par la plage, demande au chauffeur du bus de te laisser pret du club nautique de Rio ou le plus pret possible du pain de sucre ( pao de açucar ) il te fera cela avec grand plaisir et un sourire aux lèvres ..prix du bus = 2, 20 rs ..(lol) apres pour revenir a Copacabana tu feras l inverse ..
il me semble que l entrée pour le corcovado est de 60 rs par personne (- de 20 euros ) pour le pain de sucre c est encore beaucoup moins cher mais je ne me souviens plus des tarifs .. aujourd hui l euro est a 3, 15 rs ( pour 1 euro tu recevras 3, 15 rs ), tout va te sembler pas chér ici a Rio rsrsrssr alors comme tu peux voir ..le prix de l agence c est legerement salé ! (lol)
c est bien mieux de le faire toi même que prendre une agence et un guide qui te ramenera seulement dans des endroits ou lui même sera commissionné ... plus c est chér et plus il gagnera bien sur et ceci sur ton dos ...
Le prix d une entrée pour visiter le maracana est de l ordre de 20 rs (6 euros environ ) a moins que tu veuilles assister a un match de foot, ç est dans le même ordre de prix ...
stp change toujours tes euros dans une maison de change, jamais avec n importe qui dans la rue, si tu les changes a l hôtel ( réception ) assures toi que le change est avantageux pour toi car ici dans chaque endroit on te proposera un change différent ..ne garde jamais beaucoup d argent avec toi quand tu te proméneras dans la rue, ne laisse pas pendre ton appareil photo en bandouilliere mais garde le toujours devant toi ..
Ici a Rio on a une spécialité ce sont les restaurants de grillades de viandes ( churrascaria ) surtout vas y vous allez vous régaller mais attention aux kg en trop ( lol) pour un prix symbolique tu peux manger toute la journée si tu le veux ...ILS Y A DES EXCELENTES CHURRASCARIAS a copacabana entre autrela churrascaria Marius qui est au leme ( la prolongation de copacabana, apres l ancien hotel Meridien ) le prix par personne normalement est de 30 a 40 rs ( de 10 a 15 euros ) et viandes a volontée, idem pour les hors d oeuvres ..miam miam
je reste a ta disposition, n hésite pas a m écrire
oui en effet l'agence nous prend pour des pigeons on se debrouilleras par nous meme merci pour votre aide jean marc il nous tarde tellement dy etre vivement le 18 janvier jespere que le beau temps sera la aussi😛 mer ci a +🙂🙂
en principe le 18 Janvier comme on sera deja en été tu risques de crever de chaud (lol) super soleil, mer splendide ..minimum de 35 degrès ... et beaucoup de bronzage a ce propos n abuse pas du soleil ici, il est tres fort ..
bonjour je t'envoie des photos de Ilha grande ; pour cela il faut prendre l'autocar à la gare routière de Rio et à Angra le bateau ; en fait c'est sur la route de Paraty; il faut se renseigner ; les pousadas sont très sympa oû on accoste; sur l'ile il y en a de l'autre coté de très calmes; pour se balader on traverse à pied en toute sécurité ça monte mais c'est faisable et on a une vue splendide; et puis, des bateaux vous font faire le tour avec des haltes pour se baigner si vs n'avez pas le courage à pied ; un paradis!!!! j'y suis resté une semaine
bon séjour Daniel
🙂Docteur jeanmarcbras,
je vous envoi une cliente (avec chauffeur )pour la visite de Rio.
Patoon.je pense qu'elle va vous contacter bientôt.
Si vous avez des euros à gagner . pourquoi pas?
MADMAX
je serais a rio le 29 janv 09 au soir. je dois dormir dans une auberge de jeunesse a ipanema. je suis seul et y reste environ 4 jours avant de prende le nord. ci vous etes encore a cette date a rio, on pourrais ce voir et passer un moment pour visiter la ville, plage..?
ok ba moi, je serais a partir du 29/01, vous allez visitez koi alors sur place? moi, je pense faire le tour classic a rio puis je vais a manaus pour une traversée de l'amazonie puis le nordest et iguaçu le pantanal
Bonjour: la rue NS Copacabana est très bruyante et pour dormir..... les bus roulent de nuit comme de jour et se suivent à un rythme infernal; boules Kies recommandées
oui je sais mais cet hotel est insonorisé ( double vitrage ) tout copacabana la nuit est bruyant, pour les bus tu as raison, les chauffeurs se prennent tous pour des pilotes de F1 ..
Je veins de rentrer du Rio.
à mon avis la ville a bcp de choses pour faire et aussi les autre régions du Rio.
Quand je suis allée j'ai utilisé les services d'une agence qui s'appelle Caizinho Travel, ça á été sympa vous pouvez trouver le site sur le google et j'ai profité pour connaitre autres régions aussi jolie, mais moins connus ça vaut la peine. c'est pour ça que je vous racomande.
Si vous voudriez plus d'info sur mon séjour, n'hesitez pas de me contacter.
je compte me rendre à Rio du 7 au 15 novembre prochain avec ma copine. En parcourant les divers salons de discussion il apparait que tu sembles connaitre particulierement bien cette ville. Pourrais-tu m'indiquer quelques adresses d'hotel sur Ipanema? Nous avons vu le Yaya, tu connais!!???
Hi everyone! So happy to be back on this forum—it’s packed with such useful info! 🙂 My husband and I are planning a 2.5-week self-drive trip to Colombia at the end of the year, including some domestic flights. My first question is: is it possible, easy, and safe to do a road trip in Colombia?
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá.
30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate.
01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva.
02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá.
03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento.
04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby?
05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones?
06/12: Flight to Medellín.
07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses?
08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé.
09/12: Return to Medellín.
10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park.
11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance.
12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think?
13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?).
14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao.
15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time.
16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach.
17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Hi there, we’ve decided to head to Brazil at the end of March for 2.5 weeks with our 13-year-old son. From what I’ve gathered from some research, Rio seems like a great destination at this time of year, and I’m thinking around 4-5 days to explore it—does that sound right to you? Copacabana, Ipanema, Sugarloaf Mountain, Christ the Redeemer, maybe a favela tour, or any other ideas?
How’s the best way to get around locally? I’ve heard about Bonito or Angra dos Reis and Ilha Grande—what do you think of those? Fernando de Noronha for snorkeling or even diving? Is Recife a good option at this time of year?
If you’ve got any suggestions, we’re all ears—it’s for our 50th birthdays! :-) Thanks so much for your help and tips. See you soon.
Hi there, I’m looking for recent info on a boat trip with sleeping accommodations from Belém to Santarém. I don’t want a "luxury cruise for wealthy tourists"—just a bed with a minimum of comfort seems great to me🙂. I didn’t find any up-to-date details with Amazon Star. Do you have any companies, guides, or prices for this route to recommend?
I’d love to hear tips and feedback on this trip, especially since I’m traveling solo. I’d like to get a sense of what to expect and ensure some basic safety with transportation.
Thanks.
Hi everyone,
We’re planning 40 days in Uruguay and Argentina in February and March, trying to avoid as much rain as possible.
We’re thinking of starting in Buenos Aires, then heading to Bariloche, and from there flying to Córdoba, Mendoza, or Salta. Maybe by bus or renting a car to explore each region.
Do you have any suggestions or tips for us? We love picturesque, historic cities and landscapes. As seasoned travelers, we’re used to planning our trips ourselves.
Thanks in advance!
We’ve planned our road trip in Chile, and the only thing left is to book the TABSA ferry from Punta Arenas to Puerto Williams.
Problem: the ferry that leaves Punta Arenas at 1 AM isn’t available for booking, no matter the day or month. All the other departures can be booked, though.
On top of that, Tabsa isn’t responding to any messages.
We’re planning to explore Peru’s main highlights and were wondering if anyone could share insights on the quality and comfort of overnight buses. If so, which bus company should we trust?
Hi,
My wife and I are heading to Brazil from November 6th to December 2nd. We’ll be stopping in São Paulo, Paraty, Ilha Grande, Rio, and Salvador de Bahia.
Could you recommend some nice, non-luxury places to stay in each of these spots?
Also, any suggestions for places to visit would be great.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Marc
Hi there.
I already posted a message asking for advice about our upcoming trip to Chile.
Details: Getting around by bus or train.
Starting from Valparaiso, heading north, passing through cities and places to visit, then returning to Santiago via a different route.
Avoid the beaches...
Thanks
Hello,
my wife and I will be in Cusco for a week in March 2027.
I’d like to organize the visit to the site on our own, combining the Sacred Valley and Machu Picchu.
We’d leave Cusco on Day 1 to arrive at the site in the morning, then stay in Aguas Calientes or Ollantaytambo, and on Day 2 return to Cusco while visiting the Sacred Valley.
Is this doable?
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hello,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Rio between February 20 and March 15, 2027, to visit our son and daughter-in-law. We’re thinking of one or two "escapes" from Rio—3-day trips to get away from the city (so not too far, max 3–4 hours by car or bus). We’re all ears for suggestions! We love beautiful nature and authentic experiences, not so much the touristy spots... even though those spots are often in beautiful places, we’d rather avoid them.
Thanks for your insights!
Catherine
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip with my partner (no kids this time—thanks, Grandma!) for two weeks to celebrate her 40th birthday. I’ve been thinking about Chile. We’re looking at leaving around September 18, 2027, starting in the south and returning in early April.
Here’s what I had in mind:
8 nights in a van in the Lake District and the start of the Carretera Austral (up to the Chaitén area). We’re set to arrive in Puerto Montt around 2:00 PM. We don’t want to go too far south since we’re planning to explore the heart of Patagonia (Chile and Argentina) with the kids when they’re older. The idea is to spend 3 nights discovering the lakes (up to Cochamó) and 3 nights in Pumalín Park. I’ve also added two transition nights.
7 nights in the Atacama to experience another side of Chile (San Pedro), taking a domestic flight from Puerto Montt to Calama in the early afternoon. We’ll depart for France in the early evening from Santiago.
IMPORTANT NOTICE for those planning to take a bus to another city, state, or destination from Salvador!
Starting January 20, 2026, the intercity bus station Rodoviária is changing its address!
The Rodoviária is leaving the Iguatemi area and will now be located in ÁGUAS CLARAS (about twenty kilometers from downtown Salvador).
A brand-new station (the most modern in Brazil) has just been set up there, accessible by car/taxi/Uber/metro.
Allow for much more transfer time (especially during rush hours), so leave early if you're heading to Chapada Diamantina or other Brazilian cities by bus.
Remember, there are also private transfers (even French-speaking ones) that can take you directly from your hotel in Salvador to your hotel in Chapada. Sure, it’ll be more expensive, but you’ll save on transfer time and comfort.
Tropical greetings from Salvador,
@ivanbahiaguide
Loyal member of the French-Speaking Brazil Forums for over 15 years already 😊 🇧🇷
Hello,
We’re thinking of spending 1 month in Chile, maybe doing a loop?
From 12/23 to 01/22.
What are the must-see sights, given we’re more interested in the country’s cultural side than the beaches?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to southern Chile in November. Here's our tentative itinerary:
Day 1: Arrival in Santiago, then a flight the next day to Balmaceda where we'll pick up a rental car to reach Coyhaique.
Day 3: Walk in the Coyhaique National Reserve, then continue to Puerto Chacabuco. Return to Coyhaique for the second night.
Day 4: Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo for a hike in the national park. Continue to Puerto Tranquilo and stay there for 3 nights.
Day 5: Boat tour on Laguna San Rafael.
Day 6: Day trip to Monte San Valentin Glacier.
Day 7: Excursion to the Marble Chapels, then drive to Puerto Guadal. We'll stay there for 3 nights.
Day 8: Walk along Lago Carrera and return to Puerto Guadal.
Day 9: Rio Baker Valley and, if possible, a glacier excursion.
Day 10: Drive to Cochrane and hike in Tamango National Reserve. We'll stay 2 nights in Cochrane.
Day 11: Walk in the Chacabuco Valley.
Day 12: Drive to Caleta Tortel. We'll stay there for 2 nights.
Day 13: Cruise in the Rio Baker delta.
Day 14: Return to Cochrane.
Day 15: Return to Balmaceda in two stages.
Day 16: Continue the return journey.
Day 17: Return the rental car and head back to Santiago.
After this, we're also planning to explore northern Santiago. I'll post about that part once I have a clearer idea of the route.
What do you think of this itinerary? Is it doable in 17 days?
Thanks in advance for your tips and recommendations.
martine
Hi there, I’ll be in Brazil from December 10th to the end of February.
I’ve sketched out a rough itinerary but I’m not sure how to arrange it—considering the climate, year-end holidays, and Carnival.
Basically, I’m thinking of the Amazon, the Northeast coast with Lençóis Maranhenses National Park (but skipping Chapada Diamantina),
Ouro Preto, Paraty, and Ilha Grande—but no Rio visit.
Is this doable in 3 months?
Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule?
After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help!
Martin
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me.
What do you think?
What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions!
Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile!
I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna