Recap of 17 days between São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, and Iguaçu/Puerto Iguazu
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GE
I’ll repost here the comments I gave in reply to Camidav – see their post https://voyageforum.com/forum/partir-10-jours-bresil-en-autonomie-d10702249/. As we’ve said several times, 10 days is short for Brazil! But it’s still enough for a “little introduction.” My very recent experience (April 2025) with a 2½-week itinerary might give you some ideas. To start, here’s the route: - - Saturday, March 29: departure from Lisbon and arrival in São Paulo with LATAM - - 2 nights in São Paulo - - Monday, March 31: bus from São Paulo to Paraty - - Monday 31, Tuesday 1st, and Wednesday, April 2: 3 nights in Paraty - - Thursday, April 3: bus from Paraty to Angra dos Reis, then ferry > Ilha Grande - - Thursday 3, Friday 4, and Saturday, April 5: 3 nights in Abraão, on Ilha Grande - - Sunday, April 6: speedboat > Conceição de Jacareí, then bus > Rio de Janeiro - - Sunday 6, Monday 7, Tuesday 8, and Wednesday, April 9: 4 nights in Rio - - Thursday, April 10: flight with LATAM from Rio to Foz do Iguaçu - - Thursday, April 10: one night in Foz do Iguaçu - - Friday, April 11: visit to Iguaçu Falls on the Brazilian side, then crossing the border to Puerto Iguazu - - Friday 11 and Saturday, April 12: 2 nights in Puerto Iguazu - - Saturday, April 12: visit to the falls on the Argentine side - - Sunday, April 13: return to Brazil, LATAM flight > São Paulo - - Sunday 13 and Monday, April 14: 2 nights in São Paulo - - Tuesday, April 15: flight from São Paulo > Lisbon with LATAM, arriving Wednesday the 16th. So, it’s clear I’m writing this now from Puerto Iguazu (Argentina), and the end of the trip is near: back to São Paulo and then the flight to Lisbon. I’ll of course share more about all this in the following messages.
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
A few general points to start: - Safety: It’s an unavoidable topic for any traveler in Latin America. To be clear, I’m traveling with my long-time Thai partner, whom I call Y on VF (that’s not her real name). This detail matters because traveling as an independent couple, or in a group, or solo, influences just about everything. We didn’t have a single problem and didn’t encounter any worrying situations. In the part of Brazil we crossed, the only places we found a bit sketchy were around Praça da República in São Paulo. There are a lot of people sleeping on the sidewalks around the square. We were told they’re crack addicts. It might shock some people, and I won’t even mention the urine smells! But we noticed a police presence pretty much everywhere. That said, this is my 5th or 6th trip to Brazil over 40 years, and I get the impression that Brazil has increased its police presence. Similarly, in Rio, you see people slumped on the sidewalks—not everywhere, of course. I should also mention the bus station in Paraty, where about half a dozen homeless people, often drunk or possibly on drugs (?), hang around and can be a bit noisy, enough to bother travelers. But it was far from being a major issue. It’s obvious you need to stay alert and not act like naive tourists! - Money: You can pay with a credit card almost everywhere, even for small expenses (this is also true in Argentina). When withdrawing money from an ATM, you pay a fee of around 20-25 reais, or about 4 €. In Argentina, the only time we withdrew cash, the fee was around 10 €. - Food: We found it better and more varied than in Mexico. And definitely even more so compared to Colombia. Eating out will easily cost 25-50 € per person. The best option is to go to restaurants that offer buffets by the plate ("sem balança") or by weight. You take what you want, weigh it at the checkout, and pay. We ate for 8 € for two at a restaurant like this near the docks in Angra dos Reis (it was mediocre), and around 30 € at a stop on the outskirts of São Paulo, where we splurged (it was excellent). - Breakfasts are decent to good and hearty in Brazil, with plenty of choices. We only spent 2 nights in Argentina, at a hotel in Puerto Iguazu. It was very mediocre, but we can’t generalize based on such a limited experience. I should mention that travelers in organized groups or staying in "upscale" hotels will have different experiences. Since we travel independently and for a few weeks (actually a few months every year), we avoid hotels costing more than 50-60 € per night. Just imagine the budget! A month of travel at 50 € per night adds up to 1500 € just for accommodation! - Transport: Buses work well. They’re generally clean and comfortable. The São Paulo metro is very convenient. In Rio, however, we only used the metropolitan buses. The ticket costs 4.70 reais, or less than 1 €, and you don’t need to tell the driver where you’re getting off. There are tons of buses circling the city, and it’s a really practical way to get around. But watch out for aggressive driving, and always be ready a bit in advance to get off at your stop! We used Uber in São Paulo and Rio, and it works great. - People’s behavior: Whether in Brazil or Argentina, people are really friendly. Anyone you approach for information, like about a connection, will take the time to answer and explain. The French could take a page from their book! Brazilians are quite outgoing and will easily strike up a small conversation.
DE Dennis2 Regular ·
Hello,

Another great thing about this country is the huge number of discounts for those over 60....
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Hi Georges, I’ll be following along—not because I have travel plans in that area, but it’ll be a good update for me, and I’m curious to see how the place has changed since I was there over 10 years ago…
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
Cool to have an audience! I forgot to mention communication in the general points. When it comes to language, very few people speak a bit of English. As for French, occasionally—but rarely—you’ll meet someone better educated than average who speaks it fairly well. Outside the tourist circuits, don’t kid yourself. People understand Spanish pretty well, since it’s very close to Portuguese. You can get by if you mix a bit of Spanish and Portuguese. Personally, I’m pretty comfortable with Spanish and have good experience with Portuguese in Portugal. That said, what’s spoken in Brazil is *way* easier to understand than what’s spoken in Portugal. It’s clearer and more distinct, and also less "mumbled." I’m referring to that habit in Portugal of pronouncing a lot of "s" sounds as "sh." Maybe not everyone will agree, but I find Portuguese from Portugal kinda ugly, while Brazilian Portuguese sounds much nicer to my ear. For example: "the houses of my parents": - "Ash cashash doush meoush paish" (Portugal) – Seriously? - "As casas dos meus pais" (Brazil) – Phew!!!! Obviously, I’m not talking about local slang here! As for IT, it’s pretty hit-or-miss. For a country as developed as Brazil, it’s surprising how often the internet and Wi-Fi just don’t work that well. I’ll give examples as I go along later. One useful note: when booking online, you sometimes run into an annoying administrative hurdle—like having to enter codes (tax, social security, who knows?) and of course, only Brazilian codes are accepted. So you’ve gotta get creative! Same thing when buying medicine at a pharmacy in Puerto Iguazu (Argentina)—I had to enter a local code! I managed to move the purchase along by entering the numbers from my French passport (no letters!) !
MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
Hello! I’ll be following along too 😉 My initial plan was to pair Iguaçu Falls with a visit to the NOA, but all things considered, why not do this little part of Brazil instead....
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
That famous "Portugnol" that saved my bacon more than once in Brazil, especially when Google Translate let me down!

About your "administrative roadblock," you're probably referring to the CPF (Cadastro de Pessoas Físicas), which is Brazil’s personal identification number. You can apply for one if you're staying long enough, even as a foreigner. Otherwise, sellers often use their own to complete the transaction. It does make one-off online purchases trickier, though.
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Hello I’ll be following along too ;) My initial plan was to pair Iguaçu Falls with a visit to the NOA, but all things considered, why not with this little part of Brazil instead....

What’s NOA? :p
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
NOA must mean Northwestern Argentina, right?
MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
Northwest Argentina 😉 (the Salta region and the Andean highlands). Nothing like Brazil in terms of landscapes (but the trip is longer and more expensive)
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Nord Ouest Argentin 😉 (the Salta region and the Andean highlands). Nothing like Brazil in terms of landscapes (but the trip is longer and more expensive)

Okay, sorry for my ignorance. During my first trip to Brazil (mostly in the south), it seemed obvious to make a detour to Iguazu, since air transfers were plentiful and cheap. But it’s true that it can also be combined with the NOA 😉. I had started planning a month in Argentina, which didn’t happen due to lack of time. And it’s true that it’s tricky to cover both the north and south of Argentina in one trip… same goes for Brazil, actually. Another country I’ll have to split into chunks!
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
I’ve had a somewhat similar experience. I travel often and do a lot of research well in advance to really nail down my itineraries (though that doesn’t stop me from improvising once I’m there). I’ve put together possible routes spanning several weeks—or even months—across Peru, Bolivia, Argentina, and Chile multiple times, and honestly, I don’t find this vast region easy to navigate. The long distances with not much to see in between, the cost of transport, etc.

“Slicing it up” is still a way to go about it, but it means multiple trips from Europe, and the costs add up.
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
Y and I are about to fly today from São Paulo to Lisbon, and we're starting to reflect on our experiences. I'll add a few general comments about: 1: Money. As I mentioned, we paid for almost everything with a credit card everywhere we went, even for small expenses. So, there's no need to make multiple ATM withdrawals. Good to know, since it helps avoid extra bank fees. In Brazil, I got the impression that service charges are always included in the bill, and servers don’t expect tips. In Argentina, at least in Puerto Iguazu, you get to choose from 4 options displayed on the screen when paying by card—like "good service +10%," for example. 2: Food. I mentioned earlier that the food in Brazil is pretty good. Take that with a grain of salt (haha!), because it really varies. We found it was often too salty, sometimes to the point of being inedible. If I stayed longer in Brazil, I’d avoid dishes with cheese because it’s usually way too heavy (Y avoids that kind of food anyway). The only cheese I’d keep eating is the fresh white cheese served everywhere for breakfast, which I think is fine. Desserts are sometimes too sweet.
DE Dennis2 Regular ·
The food is generally quite heavy, not a ton of veggies, and the triple side of meat with fries/rice/farofa is a bit surprising—at least it fills you up! But the meats are often really good. Everywhere has catupiry, a cheese they put on everything. Kilo restaurants are usually great, though many only serve lunch.
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
The food is generally quite heavy, not a ton of vegetables, the triple side of meat with fries/rice/farofa a bit surprising, but at least it fills you up... though often the meats are really good! Everywhere you find catupiry, a cheese they put on everything. Kilo restaurants are generally great, and many only operate at lunchtime.

That’s true, it *is* a bit heavy. But we found there were often quite a few cooked vegetable options—like eggplant, tomatoes, potatoes, sweet potatoes, and others. There were also green salads and sometimes some cut-up fruit. On the other hand, it’s often reheated—and to be precise, *barely* reheated, meaning it stays a bit cold. There are often beans (feijão) in two versions: a dark brown one (similar to the famous feijoada) and a lighter brown one. They’re great on rice with a sprinkle of farofa. Y, who always turned up her nose at refried beans (served as mash) in Mexico, ended up liking the Brazilian versions.

The good thing is there’s always rice, and it’s decent… even for Y (who’s Thai). We completely avoided fries—actually, we didn’t see many! All this to say there’s *huge* variation from one region to another, one city to another, and one restaurant to another. And it’s probably changed over the years too. We should also talk about drinks. Freshly squeezed fruit juices are, of course, really good. And—especially for me, though Y came around—how can we not mention caipirinhas? They’re amazing, and for us, the best ones are made with maracujá. Big glasses with generous servings of cachaça—wow, they really clean you out! To wrap up this little section: I don’t know of any good beer in Brazil. Lack of experience?
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
To wrap up this little chapter: I don’t know of any good beer in Brazil. Lack of experience?

Skol, Brahma, Antarctica, Petra (the best in my opinion)—there’s plenty to quench your thirst when it comes to hops!
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
I only tried Brahma. Wasn't blown away. I'll give Petra a shot next time, thanks for the tip!
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
Arrival in São Paulo – 2 Nights The LATAM flight from Lisbon to São Paulo (GRU) lasted over 10 hours. The food served was really mediocre, and the service was interrupted several times due to turbulence. They even forgot to serve us coffee!

There are only two immigration counters open for non-Brazilians—sometimes just one when the officer at the counter steps away to consult a colleague elsewhere. You really don’t get the feeling that people are working here with much enthusiasm! A lot of time is also wasted due to faulty IT systems. To make matters worse, every time a crew—pilots and flight attendants—arrives, they’re prioritized! The air conditioning is barely noticeable...

We clear immigration later than expected. Now, we need to find transportation. There are taxis, of course, but we try to find a cheaper option to get to the city center, which is over 30 km from the airport. There must be direct buses, but there are so many—it’s pretty confusing for us since we’ve never set foot in São Paulo before.

We end up taking a shuttle to the train station. We buy tickets for the train and subway—definitely cheap—and wait a good half-hour on a large platform where we’re completely alone. Anxiety sets in: did we understand the directions correctly? Night has already fallen. I start regretting not taking a taxi! Finally, some people arrive, then the train appears... and stays at the platform for another half-hour before leaving. This train, heading to "Luz," seems to run only once an hour, maybe because it’s Saturday night?

The train takes a solid half-hour to reach Luz station. We get off to take the Line 4 "Amarela" (Yellow Line) of the subway and finally arrive, a few minutes later, at República station—the next stop. The hotel we booked is just a short walk from the station, on Aurora Street. Those few steps are enough to notice there’s a bit of a problem here: several people are lying on the sidewalk, covered in dirty blankets, rags, and who knows what else. There’s a strong smell of urine.

We’d been warned that there’s a whole scene of drug users around this area and that we should be very careful. After spending 2 nights here, we can say that there isn’t actually a major security issue. No one ever approached us or made any suspicious moves toward us. That said, there’s a pretty solid police presence everywhere. Our hotel isn’t much to look at, but it’s clean. The price: 528 R$ for 2 nights, including breakfast, which comes out to 42 € per night. It’s actually the lowest price we paid during our entire trip.

We go out in search of food but only find a few unappetizing snacks. It’s past 8 PM, and nothing decent seems to be open around the square. No big deal—we’re exhausted, it’s time to turn in, and as they say, "who sleeps dines!" !
DE Dennis2 Regular ·
Hello, you didn’t have much luck with immigration in São Paulo—every time I’ve been through there, I haven’t had to wait long…

Brave of you to take the train right after arriving. It’s true, the bus that takes you there isn’t the easiest, and arriving at Luz as your first contact with the city isn’t ideal: the station itself is really beautiful and well restored, but the area right outside is just sketchy…
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
...and arriving at Luz as your first contact with the city isn’t the best: the station is really beautiful and well restored, but what’s in front is just grim....

There was a nice guy on the train who recommended we get off at the final stop, Luz, as it was less grim than the previous stop (I don’t remember its name) that we’d been recommended at the ticket counter. That says it all!

At Luz, the connection to the metro was quick and easy, and even though there were lots of people in the corridors and on the platforms, 99% of them were completely normal folks.

It’s worth noting there’s a visible police presence pretty much everywhere. So, I don’t think there’s any need to panic—just avoid finding yourself late at night or in the middle of the night in a secluded spot, and you won’t be taking many risks. Actually, as far as the metro in São Paulo goes, we found it easy to use, fast, frequent, well-signposted, and even though the corridors are sometimes dark, they’re generally clean. The trains are clean and modern.

All in all, it might even be less stressful than the Paris metro!
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
São Paulo – First day in Brazil The hotel might not be super fancy, but the breakfast is totally fine. There’s plenty of choice. You won’t find cooked dishes like you often do in Asia, but there are scrambled eggs, ham, cheese (I really like the white cheese they serve everywhere in Brazil), pastries, fruit, yogurts. We leave feeling well fed.

It’s our first day in Brazil. We’ve got about ten hours of flying under our belts, a slightly grueling trip from the airport to the hotel, and 4 hours of jet lag to deal with. So, a few extra hours of rest at the hotel are a must, and it’s not until around noon that we finally emerge.

We take an Uber to Avenida Paulista, São Paulo’s most famous thoroughfare. We could’ve easily taken the metro—we realized that later. The taxi can’t go all the way to the avenue itself. It’s closed to traffic every Sunday from 8 AM to 4 PM, giving pedestrians and cyclists free rein.

The avenue is lively—crowds of onlookers, musicians, stalls selling all sorts of things, etc. Nothing really unique or remarkable, but it’s nice. There’s quite a bit of police presence too! The buildings are modern and tall. It’s not all that different from a big European city. In fact, people of clearly European descent seem to dominate—I’d say they make up about two-thirds of the people we see around us.

We find something to eat on the 3rd floor of Shopping Cidade São Paulo. It’s our first encounter with the buffet-style dining system you find everywhere in Brazil, which I’ve mentioned before. It’s good, clean, and cheap. You take what you want and pay by the weight of your plate.

We take the metro from Trianon-MASP station to República station. Our hotel is just a stone’s throw from Praça da República. On the southwest side of the square, where the two metro exits are, we discover the craft market that’s held there every Sunday. We stop at a stall selling hammocks. They’re gorgeous, and I’m dying to buy one. Back home in Thailand, at Y’s house, we love hammocks. We had two, bought in Mexico, but one of them finally gave out—a new hammock would be tempting. Just a side note: while hammocks are popular in Thailand, I’ve never seen any as nice there. The woman quotes a price of 300 R$, about 45 €. That’s a good price, and there might even be room to negotiate a small discount. Tempting… But lugging another hammock in our already light luggage, so early in our trip? We pass on the offer. That’ll be my biggest regret because we never found another hammock like it anywhere else. I won’t even mention the 2 or 3 tourist shops where we saw them at ridiculous prices.

It’s still early, and we’re a little hungry. Our steps lead us to a street parallel to the square, Rua Dom José de Barros, which we head up toward the northeast. It’s a lively street, packed with bars spilling out onto the sidewalk, lots of people, music. It’d be tempting to sit down for a drink, but it’s just a little too sketchy, and I’m wary—maybe unfairly.

A bit further on, at the corner of Avenida Ipiranga and Avenida São João, we find a café-restaurant that suits us—neither too upscale nor too dodgy. It’s a lively area, a great spot for people-watching. The two roast chicken dishes we order are huge—we could’ve shared one—but it’s good and cheap. The service is friendly. We head back to the hotel satisfied, no longer shocked to see people sprawled on the sidewalks here and there.
MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
scrambled eggs, ham, cheese (I really like the white cheese they serve everywhere in Brazil), pastries, fruit, yogurt

That’s a perfect breakfast for me! 🙂
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
scrambled eggs, ham, cheese (I really like the white cheese they serve everywhere in Brazil), pastries, fruit, yogurts

That’s a perfect breakfast for me! 🙂

Yeah, breakfast in Brazil is generally pretty good. A few extra details, based on my limited experience: - They serve 3 or 4 kinds of bread, but it’s not as good as French bread. - I’ve never seen tea, except sometimes a selection of herbal teas (tea bags). - There’s often fruit juice, orange or a mix. Sometimes it’s just non-fresh orange juice. - I’ve never seen fried eggs, only scrambled eggs, which you can have with sausages cooked in sauce (not great, but okay...).

It’s definitely better than in Colombia, where you’re lucky if you get a cup of (bad) coffee and 2 fried eggs (slaps in the face are optional). I’m saying this after spending over 5 weeks traveling from north to south of the country, staying in "tourist hotels."

I also compare it with Mexico (about 3 months of travel, including 3 weeks with a family, never in resorts), where breakfast isn’t always included, and the options are totally different. Mexican breakfasts like huevos rancheros or chilaquiles are amazing and really fill you up!
MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
Bad coffee in Colombia—what a letdown! 🤪 My experience in Mexico is limited and quite old, but I still have fond memories of what I ate there.
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
Bad coffee in Colombia—it seems like the ultimate irony! 🤪 .

Yeah, it’s surprising! Except in big cities and if you pick the best spots, what you’ll usually find is "tinto." Here’s the recipe I’ve figured out: - Pick a glass that’s not too clean, if possible - Pour in about half a dozen granules of so-called "instant" coffee, then add hot water - Serve it to the customer, who’s amazed to find such quality coffee in Colombia!

Okay, I might be exaggerating a bit, but there’s some truth to it. It’s frustrating when you see people bringing huge bags of *real* good coffee to the local cooperative!

What happens is that the "real" coffee is mostly exported. Of course, every now and then, you *do* get an amazing cup of coffee in Colombia! In 5 weeks, my son and I had real, good coffee just 3 times: in Cartagena, in Salamina (we visited a small producer), and in Popayán.
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
From São Paulo to Paraty – Second day in Brazil

I booked 2 seats on a São Paulo–Paraty bus with the company Reunidas. I had a bit of trouble doing it online. As I mentioned earlier, you have to provide a whole bunch of details, including crucially the CPF (cadastro de pessoas fiscas - thanks to Montagnard74 for sharing that info—I’d forgotten exactly what it was). So I looked up the definition of XXX online. You can’t just enter any numbers because the last two digits are verification numbers, similar to how two verification digits are added to a social security number (in France). I didn’t have any trouble finding the formula online.

I usually try to book transportation that isn’t too early in the morning. Our bus leaves at 11 AM, which gives us plenty of time to have breakfast at a leisurely pace and then give our (light) luggage one last check before taking the subway.

The bus departs from the Tietê bus station. From Praça da República to Portuguesa-Tietê, we take the yellow subway line, transfer at Luz (1 stop) to the blue line (3 stops). It’s actually really simple—this subway system is well-designed, generally well-signposted, and the trains run with Parisian-level frequency. From the subway to the bus station, it’s just a tiny step; it’s well-connected, and there’s no way to get lost. We have a bit of a wait, which gives me time to look for an ATM to withdraw some cash. That part, though, isn’t great. There’s only one row of ATMs, and you have to hunt for them a bit in the station. I also noticed that even in the city, ATMs aren’t exactly plentiful. But as I think I mentioned before, you don’t really need to carry too much cash because you can pay almost everywhere with a credit card, even for tiny purchases or snacks.

The bus is clean and comfortable. Once we leave the metro area—which takes over an hour, and it’s well past noon, maybe even pushing 1 PM—we make a stop. I couldn’t say exactly where, but it’s impressive. There’s a huge room with at least 2 or 3 massive buffet lines and an incredible selection. It’s our first encounter with the "pay-by-weight" system we’d heard about earlier. We didn’t quite get how it worked and ended up with enormous plates—which we struggled to finish—resulting in the priciest "buffet" bill of our trip: around 30 € for two. No regrets, though—it was delicious.

It’s almost 300 km from São Paulo to Paraty. Worth mentioning: São Paulo sits at 760 meters above sea level on the Planalto Brasileiro, a vast plateau separated from the sea by a mountain range, the Serra do Mar. The first part of the trip follows these mountains. The scenery is pleasant—rolling, lush, and clearly quite rural. Then the road turns toward the coast. The road is good, but traffic slows down with a ton of curves as we cross the mountains. I think it’s around Ubatuba that we reach the coast. From there to Paraty, there’s just one road along the shoreline. We arrive after nightfall.

We booked a pousada just 300 meters from the bus station, but since it’s already dark and the street names aren’t well-marked, we search around a bit. The historic center of the city, though, is only 500 meters from the bus station.

We drop off our things in our room and head straight to the historic center in search of a restaurant. We’re tempted by Candeeiro on Rua da Lapa. Everything’s expensive, but that’s the norm here. We later realized it’s not actually much cheaper elsewhere—at least at the places we went. The cheapest dish is 20 € or more. Y orders a fish (very good). As for me, I decide to skip it since I ate so well on the road around noon. But a little caipirinha is a must. One for each of us! They’re not that small, actually—they serve them in big glasses, and… wow! Our first caipirinha of the trip is well-balanced and delicious. A revelation!

Back to the pousada for some well-deserved rest!
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
Paraty – Third and Fourth Days in Brazil

Exploring the historic center of Paraty can be done leisurely in just a short day. It’s really small—there must be about fifteen streets in total, forming a square roughly 500 meters on each side. The streets still have large cobblestones, making them pretty tough to walk on. No way you’d want to tackle them in stilettos! The houses are low and have an undeniable colonial charm. The whole area is clean, with a few cafés, restaurants, and little souvenir and clothing shops.

It’s nice and definitely worth seeing, but it’s so remote! Just to put it in perspective, it took us nearly 8 hours by bus to get there from São Paulo, and it’s 250 km from Rio de Janeiro—which, by the coastal road alone, would take about 4 to 5 hours by car (and I’m not even talking about the bus!).

It’s pretty isolated, so you wonder why the Portuguese made it a port back in the 16th century… Oh well, it’s cute. I’ve attached two photos to give you an idea: the river in Paraty and our last caipirinhas in this historic spot, with the maracujá caipirinha (passion fruit) in the foreground—our favorite, hands down.

Actually, I realize I didn’t take any photos of the houses in the town itself, but you can find plenty online.

The city has expanded beyond the historic center, of course, and quite a bit since my first visit… back in 1984! The streets are still pleasant, and you can find a bit of everything, especially (for us) some restaurants. We were really disappointed by the awful pizza we paid way too much for at a restaurant on the corner of the main street (Roberto Silveira) and João Luiz de Rosario. We made up for it at a restaurant serving a "pay-by-weight" buffet, also on the main street—easy to spot thanks to its fun "dinosaur cave" decor.

Since we spent two full days in Paraty, we had time to explore it thoroughly and even started getting a little bored. Sure, there are some amazing spots to discover in the surrounding area, especially paradise-like beaches (and I don’t use that term lightly), but you’d need your own transportation to get there, which we didn’t. Actually, I could generalize this observation for the entire coast from Rio de Janeiro to Paraty and even further south: it’s paradise-like, but relatively hard to access, and it’s not really worth it if you’re only going for 2 or 3 days and don’t have your own wheels.

To wrap this up, a few words about our accommodation. A quiet, clean, no-frills pousada just a stone’s throw from the center, with a great breakfast and super-friendly hosts. Cost for 3 nights: around 130 €.
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
Ilha Grande – Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh Days in Brazil

Right after breakfast, we head to the Paraty bus station, which is just a few minutes from our pousada. I’d checked the day before—you don’t buy tickets in advance for the Colitur bus to Angra dos Reis, so we prefer to get there a little early. The bus leaves at 9 a.m. (if I remember correctly). There aren’t many travelers, so we have no trouble finding a bench to sit on while we wait. It would be a quiet little station… if it weren’t for three or four vagabonds putting on a show, riding bikes in circles around the station, bothering the dogs sleeping under the benches, and talking loudly so no one can ignore them. They seem out of it—who knows what they’ve taken! People are clearly annoyed.

No problem finding a seat on the bus, which is pretty decent. Along the way, we get a few glimpses of the coastline, lots of little islands, and beaches that look inviting. But most of the time, there’s nothing to see because the road cuts through thick vegetation. In fact, the entire coast and nearby mountains are covered in jungle. It’s really nice to see so much greenery!

There are only a few small villages between Paraty and Angra dos Reis. There’s just not much space between the coast and the mountains! We arrive at the Angra dos Reis port a little before 11 a.m. I was hoping to catch a ferry to Ilha Grande by late morning, but since it’s Sunday, there’s only one ferry leaving at 3 p.m.

Right as we get off the bus, there’s a crowd of people waiting in several lines for « lanchas »—speedboats that take just 20 minutes to cross. We hesitate a bit; it’s a bit chaotic and confusing, and since the tickets cost around 15 to 20 euros per person, we decide to take the ferry later.

The ferry dock is at Cais da Lapa, about 600–700 meters away—if we can find it. The entrance gate is run-down and doesn’t inspire confidence. Someone had told us along the way that it was « just past the Receita Federal office (the tax office!) ». And sure enough—that info was right (unusual, I know). There’s no one around; we’re obviously too early.

We walk along the docks on the « city side » and find a buffet where we have the cheapest lunch of our entire trip: less than 10 euros for two! Okay, it wasn’t amazing, I’ll admit, but at least we didn’t get sick! Heading back toward Praça Nilo Peçanha, we see a churrasqueira and regret not starting our walk on that side of the center—we would’ve paid more, sure, but it probably would’ve been way better! Aside from that, the square isn’t great, and the whole area near the docks is pretty uninteresting. Back at the dock, just a few minutes’ walk from the square, we still have a good hour to wait before boarding. Tickets bought on the spot.

The weather isn’t great—pretty overcast. We take a few photos anyway; the coast is scenic, all jagged where the mountains meet the sea, with several small islands keeping things interesting along the way. No regrets about not taking a « lancha »—it would’ve cost 3 to 4 times more!

Our pousada in Abraão, the main spot on Ilha Grande, isn’t amazing, but it still costs us 180 euros for 3 nights. The room is ridiculously small. But keep in mind: Abraão isn’t a city—it’s barely a village you can walk around in half an hour, and it’s packed with tourists (mostly Brazilians). So everything’s expensive. That evening, we try one of the restaurants along the beach. It’s pretty mediocre, and the caipirinhas are more watered down than usual.

The next day, after an okay breakfast, we look for an agency that can offer us a good few-hour tour around the island. There are several agencies with different beach combos. It seems (maybe I’m wrong) that Abraão is the only real settlement on the island (and even that’s a stretch). Outside of that, there might be a few isolated houses, and maybe you could find a room to rent somewhere, but it’s not easy at all.

It’s already too late for today, so we plan a tour for the next day—but we’re told it depends on the weather. The forecast isn’t promising…

At noon, we eat at a buffet—the only one we found—at the corner of Rua Bouganville and the little street parallel to the beach. It’s decent and reasonably priced. We wander a bit in this tiny town, I’ll admit. That evening, we sit down at Bardjeco, a restaurant on a street corner by the waterfront, to enjoy a little caipirinha before getting serious. It’s a decent spot and easy to find. The caipirinhas (« de maracujá »!) are excellent and strong. They don’t serve them in thimbles in Brazil, it seems! Proof: see Y’s reaction to her first sip. She almost looks like I imagine a junkie would after shooting up!

We eat well, but as I’ve said, once you venture beyond buffets, the bills are steep too! Y orders garlic shrimp (photo)—she has a real soft spot for that kind of food.

The next morning, we face the facts: it rained all night, and the thick clouds hanging over the mountain behind us don’t bode well. It’s quickly confirmed—no one’s going out to sea today. Our plan to visit 2 or 3 « paradise beaches » is washed out—literally. It’s a bummer since we have to head to Rio de Janeiro the next day. I know, I know—if we hadn’t booked all those hotels and flights in advance, we’d have had more flexibility. But these days, people book everything so far ahead; winging it day by day is just asking for trouble and expensive surprises. Plus, I don’t like the idea of wandering street to street looking for a hotel with Y on my arm. I try to guarantee her some comfort where I can.

The news is worrying. One or two agencies tell us we might not even be able to leave the island tomorrow because of the bad weather. On top of that, we hear the road from Angra dos Reis to Rio has become impassable due to landslides. We can’t get more info—there’s no electricity or internet for most of the day. It’s only in the evening that we manage to buy tickets for a « lancha » to Mangaratiba, 50 km from Angra dos Reis toward Rio de Janeiro, probably past the landslides on the coastal road.

So, a pretty depressing day in a place that should’ve given us a great « tropical » experience. Oh well—we’ll console ourselves with a little caipirinha cure at Bardjeco!
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
From Ilha Grande to Rio de Janeiro – Eighth day in Brazil At the dock in Abraão in the morning, there’s a crowd of people queuing up to take the "lanchas" and leave the island. It’s Sunday, so I guess a lot of them have to get back to work at the start of the week, and on top of that, they couldn’t travel the day before because of the bad weather. Passengers are packed to the max in our "lancha". I’d recommend anyone who’s a bit larger than average to forget this option entirely for getting to or leaving the island. The worst part is that some people came with a bunch of big suitcases that absolutely can’t be placed between the passengers and the seats. In the end, the suitcases are piled up at the front, and we can finally leave. It’d be an exaggeration to say you couldn’t slip a piece of paper between the passengers, but it’s tight! No complaints about the crossing—it’s fast, and you can barely see anything. It was much nicer on the ferry, and way cheaper too! We disembark at Mangaratiba, 50 km from Angra dos Reis (photo of Y on the dock). We don’t have time to visit this little town; we’re directed straight to the minibuses that go all the way to Rio, about 100 km further. I have to admit, everything’s pretty well organized—the tickets we bought the day before were for Rio, and that’s exactly where they take us! No complaints about the road—it’s two lanes all the way to the outskirts of Rio. The great thing is that every passenger could give the exact address where they wanted to go. We drop off a group of younger people at the door of a hostel in southern Copacabana, and a little later, we arrive at the door of our hotel, north of Copacabana. This must be the 5th or 6th time I’ve been to Copacabana—I’m pretty familiar with the place, and I confidently take Y out for a bite to eat in a side street that evening, but not before knocking back a nice little caipirinha in a cool bar, Bar do Adão, on Rua Duvivier. One last little note before I sign off (I get the feeling there aren’t many readers left!). You might think Y and I are a couple of lushes, with all these caipirinhas dotting our journey. I’d like to set the record straight, at least when it comes to Y: she’s not an alcoholic (can you even say "lushess" for a woman?). She just has this habit of tasting alcoholic drinks and handing me her barely touched glasses… which I never refuse!
DE Dennis2 Regular ·
Oh yeah, I hear you loud and clear!

And it just reinforces my decision not to go to Ilha Grande.
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
Oh, I do read you, personally...

And it just reinforces my decision not to go to Ilha Grande....

Thanks, it’s reassuring to have some interaction with readers! I’m not surprised by your comment about Ilha Grande. I was actually going to add a few thoughts on this first part of our trip, from São Paulo to Rio de Janeiro.

São Paulo: We didn’t go there by choice but out of necessity, for two reasons: - 1: It’s the main hub for flight connections. Pretty much all the flights I looked at for Rio had us passing through there anyway. So, São Paulo was our starting point and will later be our exit point from Brazil. - 2: If you start in Rio and head down the coast to Paraty, going back to Rio takes about as long as traveling from Paraty to São Paulo. There’s also the option of continuing along the coast. There are several cities, some quite large, along the 1,800 km from Paraty to the Uruguay border, and I’ve read some encouraging comments about them. And if the plan is to head to Iguaçu afterward, there are direct flights from Curitiba and Florianópolis.

It’s something to look into more closely for another trip.

Paraty: Very cute, but I don’t see how you could spend more than 2 days there without getting seriously bored. The distance to Rio or São Paulo is only 250-260 km, but it’s not a highway, and it takes several hours!

Ilha Grande: As I mentioned earlier, Abraão seems to be the only real base on the island. It’s tiny, tourists are packed in like sardines, it’s expensive, and there’s really nothing to see. We went out of curiosity because, after visiting Brazil five times before and hearing so much about it, I thought: it’s on our route, let’s see what it’s all about!

It’s a legendary destination that’s become... a myth!

You have to realize that between São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, there are over 30 million Brazilians, and many are wealthy enough to get out of the big cities for a few days, even just for 2 or 3. That’s a lot of people on the beaches!

A general tip: In any case, it’s best to avoid holiday periods at all costs—they must be absolute nightmares!

If you have a specific reason to visit this part of the coast, like meeting up with friends, or if you take the time to stay and discover the less obvious spots with your own transportation, it’s obviously a different story! But then you’d need to plan for more than just a few days...
MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
Passengers are packed to the max in our "lancha." I’d recommend anyone who’s a bit larger than average forget this option entirely for getting to or leaving the island.

Are there more comfortable ways to leave the island?
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
Passengers are packed to the max in our "lancha". I’d recommend anyone who’s a bit larger than average forget this option entirely for getting to or from the island.

Are there more comfortable ways to leave the island?

There’s the ferry—cheaper, more space, and nicer for seeing the sights along the way. But it only runs between the island and the city of Angra dos Reis. If you’re going farther or coming from farther away, just know there’s only one road along the coast, and it can get cut off if there’s a bad accident or landslides after heavy rain. Needless to say, but just to be clear: no air connections.
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

I just started reading your really nice and interesting Brazilian travel journal. I’ll dive into it more thoroughly later... I was actually planning to head back to Brazil for a short trip and spend a few days on Ilha Grande... What I’ve read so far has made me a bit hesitant! Back in 1986, when I left Rio (heading toward Florianópolis and Porto Alegre), I passed through Paraty and Angra dos Reis. At that time, there was no accommodation on Ilha Grande—you could only visit on a day trip. I had a picnic there and went snorkeling one afternoon. Funny story: I remember hitting the coral (the sea was a bit rough!) and ended up keeping a piece stuck in my right arm for over a year as a souvenir! 🙁 I can’t say which side of the island I landed on, but the beach and the lush landscape in the background are still etched in my memory... It was absolutely stunning! By chance, I discovered that you can now stay on the island, and not just in the village of Abraão. There are several beaches with bungalows (not cheap!) connected to the "port" by "navettes" or lanchas. I saw that the island is crisscrossed with trails, so you can do some hikes (or rather short walks of a few hours), since there are no roads or vehicles on the island. I thought it might be interesting to stay there for 2 or 3 nights (with my wife), and besides snorkeling, a few walks could fill those 3 days. Exploring hikes are one of our favorite pastimes. 😏 What I’ve read about how crowded the place has become is making me hesitate a bit... 😕
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
Yeah, it’s really changed, like pretty much everywhere 😕 My first trip to Brazil was back in 1984, same time as you. Among other things, I went to Paraty and spent 2 or 3 days somewhere along that coast with Brazilian friends from São Paulo. I got a wicked sunburn on a beach and had to stay in my room while my friends were out celebrating—I don’t even remember what anymore... I could barely turn over in bed I was in so much pain 🏴‍☠️ Luckily, my friends always thought to bring me back a little caipirinha!
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Luckily, my friends always thought to bring me back a little caipirinha!

Locals had told me to be careful not to overdo it... According to them, cachaça contains methyl alcohol that destroys neurons! I was told to order a Caipiroshka instead—the same thing but with vodka replacing the cachaça! ;) The recipe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caipiroska
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
DE Dennis2 Regular ·
Oh, I do read you personally...

And it just reinforces my decision not to go to Ilha Grande....

Thanks, it’s reassuring to have some interaction with readers!

You really have to realize that between São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, there are over 30 million Brazilians, and many are wealthy enough to get some fresh air outside the big cities, even if just for 2 or 3 days.... That makes for a lot of people on the beaches!

A general tip: anyway, it’s best to avoid holidays at all costs—they must be absolute nightmares!

If you have a specific reason to visit this part of the coast, like meeting up with friends, or if you take the time to stay and discover the less obvious spots with your own transportation, it’s obviously a whole different story! But you’ll need to plan for more than just a few days...

Personally, I love this coast—the Costa Verde with its stunning Atlantic tropical forest plunging into the ocean. There are so many spots that are truly "paradise-like," even if I don’t like that term—but you *do* need a car!

And yes, there are millions of Brazilians with purchasing power and resources. This coast is where you’ll find owners of day cruisers and other yachts.

As for crowded beaches on weekends and during holidays, it’s actually a pleasure to sit in your beach chair and people-watch—the diversity is amazing, from beach vendors to wealthy families, all in swimsuits with a beer in hand. And wow, do they drink in the sun—it’s wild! I’ve always thought you’ve got to be careful driving back from the beach over there!
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
Luckily, my friends always thought to bring me back a little caipirinha!

Locals had told me to be careful not to overdo it... According to them, cachaça contains methyl alcohol that destroys neurons! I was told to order a Caipiroshka—the same thing but with vodka instead of cachaça! ;) The recipe: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ca%C3%AFpiroska

Okay, there’s probably some bad cachaça out there, but I never had any issues with what I drank in Brazil.

I really like caipirovkas and caipirissimas too (the latter is with gin)
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
I read your feelings about Ilha Grande with dismay. My visit to this little island dates back to 2014; we stayed a bit away from the village center and didn’t feel the crowd effect at all.

What’s more, the many trails inside the island were barely frequented—the Brazilians have a real aversion to walking—and they let us reach the stunning beaches on the other side of the island. Sure, those beaches were served by lots of lanchas, but by arriving early or picking the less popular ones, you could feel like you were alone in the world.

Of course, my experience is now over 10 years old, and from what you describe, the place has really changed... Plus, the weather you had to deal with probably didn’t help your stay either :(

Little tip for lovers of paradise islands in the area (or close by): Boipeba.

"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Plus, the many trails inside the island were barely frequented—the Brazilian has a holy terror of walking—and allowed access to the stunning beaches on the other side of the island. Of course, these beaches were served by numerous lanchas, but by arriving early or picking the less crowded ones, you could feel like you had the place to yourself.

Thanks, that’s pretty much what I imagined, though I know the crowds won’t get any better in general... As long as it stays reasonable, we can spend 2 or 3 nights there.

Little tip for lovers of paradise islands in the area (or thereabouts): Boipeba

Noted!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Since I have a bit of time, I Googled Ilha Grande. I found the Pousada where we stayed, but I also saw recent videos that scared me a bit… So many boats, beachfront terraces…

On Abraão’s side, it seemed quieter. But as I looked further to the right, I saw loads of accommodations along the beaches that didn’t exist in 2014!

"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
Yep, things change, and very often not for the better. I wrote about my first trip to Koh Pha Ngan, Thailand, on VF (several years ago)... back in 1981. It was a tropical paradise with zero tourism. I went back about ten years ago and was deeply shocked!

I’ll take this opportunity to say that I’m aware I still haven’t finished my story about this little trip to Brazil. I’ve been really busy otherwise! I hope I’ll find the time and energy to keep going!
PI Pieretmo ·
hi Georges, we really enjoyed your very interesting post about safety. It’s always something we think about before traveling to this country. we’re planning a 5-week trip to Brazil in November and December 2025.

we’ve already taken two trips to Brazil: 1. to visit the Amazon from Manaus to Fortaleza, renting a car on the return from Belém to Fortaleza. 2. from São Paulo, a flight to Foz do Iguaçu and a stop in Puerto Iguazú, which we found extraordinary. Both sides are stunning. Our next trip will start or end in Itacaré, where our grandson lives, and we’ll spend a week there. From there, what route would you recommend?

This is just to connect with fellow Brazil lovers and start gently preparing for this wonderful trip.

Thanks in advance!
Pieretmonique
AM Amazonstar ·
to break away—big time—from the arroz-feijão-macarrão-bife (rice, beans, pasta, steak) of the South and Northeast, you’ve gotta head to Belém and the state of Pará. The city’s a UNESCO gastronomy reference, one of the few in Brazil. Fresh river fish or from the estuary, crabs, shrimp, fruits, nuts, beef, pork, duck, etc.... amazing desserts and ice cream that aren’t too sweet like in Bahia or Minas. A feast for food lovers!!
AM Amazonstar ·
To break away—big time—from the arroz-feijão-macarrão-bife (rice, beans, pasta, steak) of the South and Northeast, you’ve got to visit Belém and the state of Pará. The city is a UNESCO gastronomy reference, one of the few in Brazil. Fresh fish from the river or the estuary, crabs, shrimp, fruits, nuts, beef, pork, duck, and so on... plus amazing desserts and ice creams that aren’t as overly sweet as those in Bahia or Minas. A real treat for food lovers!!
AM Amazonstar ·
To wrap up this little chapter: I don’t know of any good beer in Brazil. Lack of experience?

Skol, Brahma, Antarctica, Petra (the best in my opinion)—there’s plenty to quench your thirst when it comes to hops!

Cerpa, Tijuca, Amazon Beer—more specialties from Pará!!!
GE GeorgesOZ Globetrotter ·
hi Georges, we really enjoyed your very interesting post about safety. It’s definitely something we always think about before heading to this country. we’re planning a 5-week trip to Brazil in November and December 2025.

we’ve already been to Brazil twice: 1. to visit the Amazon from Manaus to Fortaleza, renting a car for the return trip from Belém to Fortaleza. 2. from São Paulo, a flight to Foz do Iguaçu and a stop in Puerto Iguazú, which we found amazing. Both sides are stunning. Our next trip will start or end in Itacaré, where our grandson lives, and we’ll spend a week there. From there, what route would you recommend?

That’s all for now—just reaching out to fellow Brazil lovers and starting to gently plan this wonderful trip.

Thanks in advance!

Hi there, and I’m really glad my story could be useful (especially about safety here). I won’t be much help with your next itinerary, since I don’t know the country well enough.

I’ll just mention that Itacaré is just north of Ilhéus, where I spent 2 or 3 days on my way to Salvador with a friend... 41 years ago! I can’t guarantee Ilhéus is a must-visit city, but it might be interesting to know it was once considered the world capital of cocoa cultivation. This was a few weeks before Carnival, and people were already "getting warmed up"—we partied hard on the beach at night with loud music and a super strong cocoa-flavored liquor that some friendly folks had brought in big wineskins, offering free shots! A great memory, especially since we met two really cute sisters—they were very Afro but had silky straight hair, which was surprising.

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