Traversée de l'Atlantique en bateau (France-Canada)
by Demos
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Je cherche à traverser l'Atlantique en bateau, pour éviter l'avion.
Départ de France (d'Angleterre ou d'Allemagne) pour le Canada. S'il faut passer par les Etats Unis d'Amérique, on fera l'effort.
Mais comme ensuite on désire traverser le Canada en train, un débarquement au Canada serait bien sûr le bienvenu.
Alors si quelqu'un a la moindre info sur cargo-mixte ou autre bateau qui traverse (mais pas trop lentement...le temps est compté!), qu'il envoie. Les moteurs de recherche à ce sujet sont presque muet....et pourtant ce n'est pas la quantité de contenu qui manque, mais cette fois, je suis bredouille.
En résumé: cherche bateau de FRANCE au CANADA.
Bonjour,
Peut être là : www.mer-et-voyages.com/cargos ou bien encore sur les sites des Cies de navigation, genre CMM, ScanDutch, ACL. Au départ de France c'est - il me semble - départ Le Havre, mais les départs sont plus nombreux d'Anvers ou Rotterdam. Côté prix envisage 150€/jour par personne et les plus rapides (directs) mettent mini 8-10 jours 🤪
Peut être là : www.mer-et-voyages.com/cargos ou bien encore sur les sites des Cies de navigation, genre CMM, ScanDutch, ACL. Au départ de France c'est - il me semble - départ Le Havre, mais les départs sont plus nombreux d'Anvers ou Rotterdam. Côté prix envisage 150€/jour par personne et les plus rapides (directs) mettent mini 8-10 jours 🤪
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Il reste une autre solution... que j'ai testée: traverser sur le Queen Mary 2. C'est un bateau, comme chacun sait, vraiment exceptionnel Toutefois, il n'effectue la traversée que durant le printemps et l'automne. En général, il fait le trajet New-York - Southampton en 6 nuits et, comme tu t'en doutes, la même chose dans l'autre sens la semaine suivante. Tu peux trouver des tarifs à moins de 1000 € (cabine extérieure) en cherchant sur le net. J'avais payé 800 € en avril (c'est le mois le plus soldé) 2005 pour une cabine avec balcon (réservation d'une cabine avec hublot et surclassement à l'embarquement). Je n'arrive pas à me souvenir du site sur lequel j'avais réservé. Néanmoins, vas faire un tour sur vacationstogo.com qui le propose également de temps à autres. C'est un site américain qui commercialise la grande majorité des croisières en dernière mintute; dernière minute signifiant "dans les prochains 90 jours"! J'ai fait une traversé de l'Atlantique Sud grâce à une de leur promo et c'était vraiment super! Le service (je parle du site) est réduit au minimum mais il va à l'essentiel: tu payes et ils t'envoient un mail de confirmation avec une description résumée de ta croisière et ton "voucher"... mais tu ne recevras pas de sac ou pochette de voyage, de porte-clef, de plaquette luxueuse en papier glacé. Mais tu t'en fiches, l'essentiel se trouve à bord!
Bonne recherche.
Ma signature? je la tracerai avec mon doigt dans le sable de la prochaine plage où je me poserai!
Il reste une autre solution... que j'ai testée: traverser sur le Queen Mary 2. C'est un bateau, comme chacun sait, vraiment exceptionnel Toutefois, il n'effectue la traversée que durant le printemps et l'automne. En général, il fait le trajet New-York - Southampton en 6 nuits et, comme tu t'en doutes, la même chose dans l'autre sens la semaine suivante. Tu peux trouver des tarifs à moins de 1000 € (cabine extérieure) en cherchant sur le net. J'avais payé 800 € en avril (c'est le mois le plus soldé) 2005 pour une cabine avec balcon (réservation d'une cabine avec hublot et surclassement à l'embarquement).
Bonsoir
A ce prix-là (800 ou 100 euros), je prends l'avion qui ira beaucoup plus vite, car on peut trouver des billets à moins de 500 euros (aller et retour) Paris - Montréal.
Cordialement
Bonsoir
A ce prix-là (800 ou 100 euros), je prends l'avion qui ira beaucoup plus vite, car on peut trouver des billets à moins de 500 euros (aller et retour) Paris - Montréal.
Cordialement
Le cerf vidé
Je vous souhaite tout le bonheur du monde, tous ensemble.
C'est certain, le trajet en avion est plus rapide et souvent moins cher qu'une croisière. Mais je te fais remarquer que le sujet de la discussion, proposée par Demos et à laquelle je répondais, est "Traversée de l'Atlantique en bateau".
Ben oui.... Faut tout lire!
Ma signature? je la tracerai avec mon doigt dans le sable de la prochaine plage où je me poserai!
C'est certain, le trajet en avion est plus rapide et souvent moins cher qu'une croisière. Mais je te fais remarquer que le sujet de la discussion, proposée par Demos et à laquelle je répondais, est "Traversée de l'Atlantique en bateau".
Ben oui.... Faut tout lire!
Bonsoir,
Ben tu fais bien de dire qu'il faut tout lire, car j'ai bien lu, et j'ai surtout lu que "son temps était compté".
Donc si tu vas voir sur le site du Queen Mary 2 (http://www.cunard-france.com/NewsLetter2_CIC.pdf), tu verras que la croisière est un peu longue, surtout s'il veut faire France-Usa (7 jours de traversée du Havre à New York et la meme chose pour le retour) avec le tarif le moins onéreux à 3000 euros, prix auquel il faut rajouter 135 euros par jour et par passager de gratification pour le personnel, ce qui revient à dire que cela te fait 4000 euros.
A choisir, je prends la solution de Jadorry.
Je trouve que c'est bien de mettre des idées ici, mais à condition que cela est plus intéressant que ce qui a déjà été proposé sur le sujet.
Car j'ai beaucoup de mal à penser que les gens qui viennent ici ont un porte-monnaie à rallonges et qu'ils veulent payer le prix fort : sinon tu vas carrément dans une agence de voyages et tu demandes à l'agent de voyages de te proposer un voyage de luxe, celui où tu paieras le prix fort.
De plus, le sujet a déjà été abordé quelques fois ici. Il suffit d'utiliser la fonction "rechercher" en haut à gauche (au-dessus de ton profil) et de mettre en mots clés "traversée en bateau" et mettre en destination "amérique du nord".
Un lien que je mets, mais il y en a d'autres : http://voyageforum.com/...E9e%20en%20bateau%20
Cordialement
Bonsoir,
Ben tu fais bien de dire qu'il faut tout lire, car j'ai bien lu, et j'ai surtout lu que "son temps était compté".
Donc si tu vas voir sur le site du Queen Mary 2 (http://www.cunard-france.com/NewsLetter2_CIC.pdf), tu verras que la croisière est un peu longue, surtout s'il veut faire France-Usa (7 jours de traversée du Havre à New York et la meme chose pour le retour) avec le tarif le moins onéreux à 3000 euros, prix auquel il faut rajouter 135 euros par jour et par passager de gratification pour le personnel, ce qui revient à dire que cela te fait 4000 euros.
A choisir, je prends la solution de Jadorry.
Je trouve que c'est bien de mettre des idées ici, mais à condition que cela est plus intéressant que ce qui a déjà été proposé sur le sujet.
Car j'ai beaucoup de mal à penser que les gens qui viennent ici ont un porte-monnaie à rallonges et qu'ils veulent payer le prix fort : sinon tu vas carrément dans une agence de voyages et tu demandes à l'agent de voyages de te proposer un voyage de luxe, celui où tu paieras le prix fort.
De plus, le sujet a déjà été abordé quelques fois ici. Il suffit d'utiliser la fonction "rechercher" en haut à gauche (au-dessus de ton profil) et de mettre en mots clés "traversée en bateau" et mettre en destination "amérique du nord".
Un lien que je mets, mais il y en a d'autres : http://voyageforum.com/...E9e%20en%20bateau%20
Cordialement
Le cerf vidé
Je vous souhaite tout le bonheur du monde, tous ensemble.
Visiblement, mes opinions ne te conviennent pas. Qu'importe, je ne cherchais au départ qu'à donner mon avis à une personne qui recherchait des plans pour une traversée transatlantique en bateau. Je n'ai pas une grande envie de polémiquer et je ne suis pas ici pour me justifier.
Toutefois, je me permets de te signaler amicalement que le site vacationstogo.com (que j'ai évoqué précédemment mais que tu n'as peut-être pas consulté), dans sa dernière newsletter, propose une traversée avec un départ le 4 juin de Southampton pour New-York à 999 USD en cabine extérieure avec balcon (code promo 11764). Et c'est même 100 USD de moins pour la cabine extérieure, ce qui reveient à 660 €. Quant au pourboire, de mémoire, il est de l'ordre de 10 € par jour. Ce qui représente une somme de l'ordre de 700-800 € en cabine intérieure... on est loin des 4000 € auxquels tu fais allusion ! Je ne me serais pas permis de proposer un tel plan. Quant à la durée, elle me semble acceptable car c'est un voyage en 5 jours - 6 nuits... tu ne trouveras pas moins long. En revanche, c'est vrai, il faut partir d'Angleterre car il n'y a pas de départ du Havre.
Maintenant, chacun fait ce qu'il veut...
Ci-dessous (j'espère que ça marche) la copie de la page en question du site vacationstogo.com
11764 6 days departing June 4, 2007 on Cunard's Queen Mary 2
Brochure Inside $2, 260 Our Inside $899 You Save 60% Brochure Oceanview $2, 768 Our Oceanview $999 You Save 64% Brochure Balcony $2, 614 Our Balcony $999 You Save 62% Brochure Suite $3, 899 Our Suite $3, 695 You Save 5% $$$ Book now and receive a FREE $100 per stateroom onboard credit. Restrictions may apply. The prices shown are US dollars per person, based on double occupancy, and subject to availability. They include port charges but do not include airfare or (where applicable) airport or government taxes or fees. ITINERARY
DAY DATE PORT ARRIVE DEPART Mon Jun 4 London (Southampton), England 5:00pm Tue Jun 5 At Sea Wed Jun 6 At Sea Thu Jun 7 At Sea Fri Jun 8 At Sea Sat Jun 9 At Sea Sun Jun 10 New York (Brooklyn), NY 7:00am
11764 6 days departing June 4, 2007 on Cunard's Queen Mary 2
Brochure Inside $2, 260 Our Inside $899 You Save 60% Brochure Oceanview $2, 768 Our Oceanview $999 You Save 64% Brochure Balcony $2, 614 Our Balcony $999 You Save 62% Brochure Suite $3, 899 Our Suite $3, 695 You Save 5% $$$ Book now and receive a FREE $100 per stateroom onboard credit. Restrictions may apply. The prices shown are US dollars per person, based on double occupancy, and subject to availability. They include port charges but do not include airfare or (where applicable) airport or government taxes or fees. ITINERARY
DAY DATE PORT ARRIVE DEPART Mon Jun 4 London (Southampton), England 5:00pm Tue Jun 5 At Sea Wed Jun 6 At Sea Thu Jun 7 At Sea Fri Jun 8 At Sea Sat Jun 9 At Sea Sun Jun 10 New York (Brooklyn), NY 7:00am
Ma signature? je la tracerai avec mon doigt dans le sable de la prochaine plage où je me poserai!
Bonjour,
pourquoi pensez vous que VF soit limité aux seuls voyages "peu chers"?
Ce n'est pas un site uniquement pour les routards.
Je fais 4 à 5 voyages hors Europe par an, et pour moi voyage signifie également confort, c'est à dire hotels 4*, voitures de catégories supérieures, etc. Je regrette de ne pas avoir le budget pour les vols en 1ere ou en Affaires.
Je prends également beaucoup de plaisirs à construire mes voyages moi-même.
L'idée de notre ami alsacien est bonne, 600 à 800€ pour traverser avec un bateau de luxe... Je n'ai malheureusement pas le loisir de pouvoir consacrer 6 jours pour un sens. Demos doit avoir le temps car il envisage même un voyage en cargo, et là c'est 10 jours au minimum.
Il faut de tout pour faire un monde.
L'idée de notre ami alsacien est bonne, 600 à 800€ pour traverser avec un bateau de luxe... Je n'ai malheureusement pas le loisir de pouvoir consacrer 6 jours pour un sens. Demos doit avoir le temps car il envisage même un voyage en cargo, et là c'est 10 jours au minimum.
Il faut de tout pour faire un monde.
C'est un devoir de bousculer la pensée unique...
Pour une arrivée par mer aux USA tu as absolument besoin d'un visa B2... l'exemption de visa ne marche que si on arrive avec un billet d'avion A/R
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Toutefois, je me permets de te signaler amicalement que le site vacationstogo.com (que j'ai évoqué précédemment mais que tu n'as peut-être pas consulté), dans sa dernière newsletter, propose une traversée avec un départ le 4 juin de Southampton pour New-York à 999 USD en cabine extérieure avec balcon (code promo 11764). Et c'est même 100 USD de moins pour la cabine extérieure, ce qui reveient à 660 €. Quant au pourboire, de mémoire, il est de l'ordre de 10 € par jour. Ce qui représente une somme de l'ordre de 700-800 € en cabine intérieure... on est loin des 4000 € auxquels tu fais allusion ! Je ne me serais pas permis de proposer un tel plan. Quant à la durée, elle me semble acceptable car c'est un voyage en 5 jours - 6 nuits... tu ne trouveras pas moins long. En revanche, c'est vrai, il faut partir d'Angleterre car il n'y a pas de départ du Havre.
Maintenant, chacun fait ce qu'il veut...
Ci-dessous (j'espère que ça marche) la copie de la page en question du site vacationstogo.com
11764 6 days departing June 4, 2007 on Cunard's Queen Mary 2
Brochure Inside $2, 260 Our Inside $899 You Save 60% Brochure Oceanview $2, 768 Our Oceanview $999 You Save 64% Brochure Balcony $2, 614 Our Balcony $999 You Save 62% Brochure Suite $3, 899 Our Suite $3, 695 You Save 5% $$$ Book now and receive a FREE $100 per stateroom onboard credit. Restrictions may apply. The prices shown are US dollars per person, based on double occupancy, and subject to availability. They include port charges but do not include airfare or (where applicable) airport or government taxes or fees. ITINERARY
DAY DATE PORT ARRIVE DEPART Mon Jun 4 London (Southampton), England 5:00pm Tue Jun 5 At Sea Wed Jun 6 At Sea Thu Jun 7 At Sea Fri Jun 8 At Sea Sat Jun 9 At Sea Sun Jun 10 New York (Brooklyn), NY 7:00am
Bonsoir,
Le fait que tu dises que tes opinions ne me conviennent pas, c'est ta façon très restreinte de voir la chose, mais ce n'est pas du tout mon avis. Car si tes opinions ne me convenaient pas, je n'aurais meme pas répondu au sujet.
Je n'ai pas consulté le site, car le lien que tu avais mis n'était pas valide.
De plus, dans le prix que je note, je n'ai pas été le chercher sous les dessous mon chapeau. Quand tu ouvres le document (.pdf), c'est ce qui est noté (2995 euros la croisière + 135 euros par jour = un total de 4000 euros).
Par contre, il lui faudra rajouter sur le prix que tu notes son transfert de Suisse à Southampton, ce qui n'est pas donné non plus.
Bonne fin de semaine à tous
Cordialement
11764 6 days departing June 4, 2007 on Cunard's Queen Mary 2
Brochure Inside $2, 260 Our Inside $899 You Save 60% Brochure Oceanview $2, 768 Our Oceanview $999 You Save 64% Brochure Balcony $2, 614 Our Balcony $999 You Save 62% Brochure Suite $3, 899 Our Suite $3, 695 You Save 5% $$$ Book now and receive a FREE $100 per stateroom onboard credit. Restrictions may apply. The prices shown are US dollars per person, based on double occupancy, and subject to availability. They include port charges but do not include airfare or (where applicable) airport or government taxes or fees. ITINERARY
DAY DATE PORT ARRIVE DEPART Mon Jun 4 London (Southampton), England 5:00pm Tue Jun 5 At Sea Wed Jun 6 At Sea Thu Jun 7 At Sea Fri Jun 8 At Sea Sat Jun 9 At Sea Sun Jun 10 New York (Brooklyn), NY 7:00am
Bonsoir,
Le fait que tu dises que tes opinions ne me conviennent pas, c'est ta façon très restreinte de voir la chose, mais ce n'est pas du tout mon avis. Car si tes opinions ne me convenaient pas, je n'aurais meme pas répondu au sujet.
Je n'ai pas consulté le site, car le lien que tu avais mis n'était pas valide.
De plus, dans le prix que je note, je n'ai pas été le chercher sous les dessous mon chapeau. Quand tu ouvres le document (.pdf), c'est ce qui est noté (2995 euros la croisière + 135 euros par jour = un total de 4000 euros).
Par contre, il lui faudra rajouter sur le prix que tu notes son transfert de Suisse à Southampton, ce qui n'est pas donné non plus.
Bonne fin de semaine à tous
Cordialement
Le cerf vidé
Je vous souhaite tout le bonheur du monde, tous ensemble.
Bonjour,
nous aimerions nous aussi faire la traversée entre la France ou le continent européen et le Canada plutôt que d'y aller en avion.
Avez-vous réussi à y aller par la mer? Et comment?
Merci
bonjour
Malheureusement je suis dans le même cas que vous alors je voudrais savoir si vous avez trouvé un bon plan pour ne pas prendre l'avion
je serais intéressée
merci pour votre réponse
Si vous avez du temps une solution est de le faire en bateau à voile. Il y en a de toutes les sortes. Des grands très confortables qui valent bien des paquebots. Bien sur il faudra peut etre ajuster le point d'arrivée. Allez voir sur les sites de voile notamment stw.fr
une experience de la voile n est pas vraiment necessaire sur les grands bateaux
je ne plaisante pas j ai traversé ma femme et moi de martinique en france
une experience de la voile n est pas vraiment necessaire sur les grands bateaux
je ne plaisante pas j ai traversé ma femme et moi de martinique en france
Malheureusement les bons plans ne sont pas legion par voie de mer car tjrs assez cher...
Mais vous pouvez peut-être tenter votre chance en allant sur le site du port du Havre par expl...
vous y trouverez normalement la liste des bateaux, armateurs et rotations...
Il arrive parfois qu'un carré soit réservé à des passagers sur les cargos (celà va du plus spartiate au plus amenagé
voir luxueux)...contactez les directement , vous n'avez rien à perdre de toutes façons😉
Sinon il arrive que des skipers sortent des voiliers de chantiers navals et soient chargé de les livrer outre Atlantique (souvent Cuba, Antilles, Floride rarement plus au nord)... il arrive qu'ils cherchent des équipiers...
La solution de la croisière sur le Queen Mary par expl me semble tyrès interessante...
Sinon il arrive que des skipers sortent des voiliers de chantiers navals et soient chargé de les livrer outre Atlantique (souvent Cuba, Antilles, Floride rarement plus au nord)... il arrive qu'ils cherchent des équipiers...
La solution de la croisière sur le Queen Mary par expl me semble tyrès interessante...
Bonjour,
J'en profite pour ajouter ma petite pierre à l'édifice, en ce qui concerne les voyages transatlantiques sur paquebot de luxe, mais discountés. Effectivement, on peut trouver des tarifs très avantageux, mais pas quand on est seul ! Toutes les cabines sont pour deux, donc une croisière transatlantique à 400 euros revient finalement à 800 si on n'a pas la chance d'avoir un(e) compagnon(e) de voyage. Sinon, enfin, il existe de très nombreux sites de discounters de transatlantiques, en plus de celui cité plus haut. Il suffit de taper "cruise transatlantic discount" sur votre moteur de recherche préféré... Mais bon, les résultats sont à peu près les mêmes partout.
A+
J'en profite pour ajouter ma petite pierre à l'édifice, en ce qui concerne les voyages transatlantiques sur paquebot de luxe, mais discountés. Effectivement, on peut trouver des tarifs très avantageux, mais pas quand on est seul ! Toutes les cabines sont pour deux, donc une croisière transatlantique à 400 euros revient finalement à 800 si on n'a pas la chance d'avoir un(e) compagnon(e) de voyage. Sinon, enfin, il existe de très nombreux sites de discounters de transatlantiques, en plus de celui cité plus haut. Il suffit de taper "cruise transatlantic discount" sur votre moteur de recherche préféré... Mais bon, les résultats sont à peu près les mêmes partout.
A+
Evate la Savate
je suis d'acord, ça m'interaisse aussi
moi je voudrait faire comme le Titanic
et puis j'emporte ma voiture en Amérique ....
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So, for now, Montreuil is my only option, but I’m scared and would love other opinions (on Montreuil and other possibilities).
Sorry for the novel, but this is *really* important to me—my future depends on it, in a way ^^'
Thanks so much for reading and for any help you can give!
The thing is, I have quite a few strict criteria... First and foremost, I *need* a city that’s bustling with people everywhere—I really don’t like quiet, small countryside towns. Nightlife is super important to me, especially on weekends. It’s crucial that there’s a wide range of options for going out in the evening (mostly bars—I’m not really into nightclubs, but I’d like to be one day if possible). The social aspect is the *most* important thing (honestly, the *only* thing that matters to me). I don’t care at all about living conditions, safety, cleanliness, or whether things work smoothly. But I *do* need a place where people are generally "chill"—not cold, rigid, or overly professional, with social norms that don’t make my head spin. I know I’ll never find the same Latin vibe here in France, haha, but I’m trying to survive anyway.
In France, I’ve always lived in Essonne (91), around Bures-sur-Yvette / Les Ulis / Gif / Orsay, etc. I *hate* it—way too quiet, empty streets, and zero activities that suit me. There’s not a single proper bar in any of the surrounding towns, just PMU tobacco shops, and nightlife is nonexistent.
I went to Hossegor once with friends—great vibe, nightlife, bars, beach, etc. But I’m guessing it’s *super* expensive to buy a place there, close to the action (and I’m not even sure if it’s a nice place to live overall).
When I came back to France, I spent 3 months in Paris because I thought it would obviously be the closest to what I was looking for. I still have horrible memories of it—it haunted me so much that I had to escape the capital in a hurry... And I was (I think?) in one of the best neighborhoods for my tastes: Belleville.
So here I am, going in circles because I don’t know enough about French cities. All my friends love quiet, small provincial towns or even living alone in the mountains.
A couple told me about Montreuil, but they were there a long time ago, so I don’t know what it’s like now. They said there was activity, that the city was pretty big, and that there was a good nightlife scene (bars, nightclubs, all kinds of outings), plus the metro (which would make it easy to get to Paris or for people to come to Montreuil from Paris).
So, for now, Montreuil is my only option, but I’m scared and would love other opinions (on Montreuil and other possibilities).
Sorry for the novel, but this is *really* important to me—my future depends on it, in a way ^^'
Thanks so much for reading and for any help you can give!
Hello,
At the beginning of June, we’ll be spending a few days in Sardinia. We’ve decided to return via a detour through Corsica and want to make the crossing from Santa Teresa di Gallura to Bonifacio (2 people and 1 car). There are currently two companies, Moby Lines and Ichnusa Lines, that operate this route. Unfortunately, we don’t know either of them at all. The prices and crossing times are pretty much the same, and we’d like to choose the most reliable one (punctuality/risk of cancellation for a booked crossing) and, if possible, the more comfortable of the two. Could you share your thoughts on either company to help us decide? Thanks in advance for your replies.
Have a great day.
Hi everyone,
I’m thinking about planning several short trips in France outside peak tourist seasons, especially in spring and autumn.
The idea would be to prioritize:
- fewer crowds at tourist sites - more affordable accommodation prices - a more local atmosphere
However, I also have some concerns about:
- attractions or restaurants sometimes being closed - more unpredictable weather depending on the region - less frequent transportation in certain areas
For those of you who’ve traveled in France off-season before, what do you think were the main pros and cons? Are there any regions or specific times that are particularly worth prioritizing?
Thanks in advance for your experiences! 😊
I’m thinking about planning several short trips in France outside peak tourist seasons, especially in spring and autumn.
The idea would be to prioritize:
- fewer crowds at tourist sites - more affordable accommodation prices - a more local atmosphere
However, I also have some concerns about:
- attractions or restaurants sometimes being closed - more unpredictable weather depending on the region - less frequent transportation in certain areas
For those of you who’ve traveled in France off-season before, what do you think were the main pros and cons? Are there any regions or specific times that are particularly worth prioritizing?
Thanks in advance for your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for a ski resort in the Massif Central for a family trip—two adults and three kids (ages 4, 5, and 6)—for a week between late February and early March.
The main goal is to introduce my kids to skiing, so I’m looking for a resort that’s really "family-friendly." But honestly, almost every resort (Super-Besse, Mont-Dore, Lioran, etc.) claims to be family-friendly, so I’m not sure which one to choose. Plus, it’s not always easy to check the location of accommodations on booking sites.
For what I have in mind, we don’t need 30 km of slopes. What would be ideal, though, is a resort that’s mostly pedestrian-friendly, with lodging within a reasonable distance from the base of the slopes and a ski school available.
I’ve read some things here about places like "Chalmazel-Jeansagnière," but the thread is a bit old.
Any recommendations?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best,
deb75
I’m looking for a ski resort in the Massif Central for a family trip—two adults and three kids (ages 4, 5, and 6)—for a week between late February and early March.
The main goal is to introduce my kids to skiing, so I’m looking for a resort that’s really "family-friendly." But honestly, almost every resort (Super-Besse, Mont-Dore, Lioran, etc.) claims to be family-friendly, so I’m not sure which one to choose. Plus, it’s not always easy to check the location of accommodations on booking sites.
For what I have in mind, we don’t need 30 km of slopes. What would be ideal, though, is a resort that’s mostly pedestrian-friendly, with lodging within a reasonable distance from the base of the slopes and a ski school available.
I’ve read some things here about places like "Chalmazel-Jeansagnière," but the thread is a bit old.
Any recommendations?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best,
deb75
Hi,
We’re heading to Corsica at the end of July, and after a 4-night stay in Zonza, I’d like to head toward Cargèse or Porto to visit the Calanques de Piana. What’s the actual travel time? Maps says 2h40/3h, but I’m wondering if that’s really accurate.
How long does it take to get back to Ajaccio Airport afterward?
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to Normandy and, after reading quite a few posts here, I still have some questions about the most logical order to avoid spending too much time on the road.
The idea is to have a fairly smooth itinerary, taking the time to enjoy the places, over about ten days (possibly a little more), combining the coast and the inland areas.
I’m particularly wondering about: – The best starting point (starting with Mont-Saint-Michel or saving it for the end) – The balance between the coastline and more inland areas – The areas where it’s really worth slowing down the pace
If any of you have done a route that felt particularly coherent, your feedback would really help me fine-tune the planning.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a trip to Normandy and, after reading quite a few posts here, I still have some questions about the most logical order to avoid spending too much time on the road.
The idea is to have a fairly smooth itinerary, taking the time to enjoy the places, over about ten days (possibly a little more), combining the coast and the inland areas.
I’m particularly wondering about: – The best starting point (starting with Mont-Saint-Michel or saving it for the end) – The balance between the coastline and more inland areas – The areas where it’s really worth slowing down the pace
If any of you have done a route that felt particularly coherent, your feedback would really help me fine-tune the planning.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi,
I saw that the first tram from Pont du Garigliano leaves at 5:15 AM, and by taking the RER B at Cité Universitaire afterward, I’d arrive at Roissy at 6:30 AM—2 hours before my international flight.
Is this doable, or not? If anyone’s done this before, I’d love to hear about it.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re about to finalize a booking for late July near the Pink Granite Coast. We’re wondering about the traffic jams that could make our trip miserable, given how famous the place is—we’re excited to see it too. Could it get pretty bad?
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
In June 2020, my wife and I will be visiting Brittany and Normandy. We’d especially love to explore villages that aren’t part of the usual tourist routes. We enjoy traveling off the beaten path.
We’re reaching out to you all to share which villages we should check out in these two regions. Thanks.
We’re reaching out to you all to share which villages we should check out in these two regions. Thanks.
Hello everyone,
Here’s the account of the start of our 5/7-day trip in Normandy (then off to the neighbors in... Brittany):
Day 01 from Valenciennes to Mont Saint-Michel: Sunday, September 6, 2020.
After a detour through the south of Lille (picking up our son), we head southwest around 10:00 AM, taking the highways via Amiens, the Pont de Normandie, and Avranches to arrive at "the Mount" around 4:00 PM after 515 km. Parking P3 (14.20 € for 24 hours) for residents and hotels, located 50 meters from the start of the free round-trip shuttle included in the parking price (not too many tourists at this "late" Sunday hour), and we arrive at the hotel around 4:30 PM. Triple room with a view of the bay at Hôtel Du Guesclin for 1 night. From 5:15 PM to 6:30 PM, we tackle the complete tour of the ramparts counterclockwise from the Porte de l’Avancée, via the Tour du Nord (near the abbey entrance), passing in front of the abbey to reach the Tour Gabriel, and back to the start: stunning, not crowded, great weather, and amazing views. Dinner in the beautiful panoramic restaurant of the hotel, with a bay view at a "window" table (such a nice touch!). Of course, the day isn’t over, and we can then wander through a deserted main street and its unique atmosphere (photos below labeled "night" even though it’s only 9:15/9:30 PM). What a privilege!

Day 02 from Mont Saint-Michel to Saint-Cast: Monday, September 7, 2020.
After a memorable sunrise over the bay and a sit-down breakfast, we climb the steps to the Abbey for our online-reserved time slot (9:30 AM, 11 € per person). The "masked group" is quite large, though within normal limits, and the one-way Covid-marked route (with a small brochure) prevents crowds. No need to rush, and 1 hour 15 minutes later, we’re done. Sure, it doesn’t have the charm of a guided tour, but we’re not complaining about being there! We pick up our bags at the hotel, take the shuttle back, grab the car at Parking P3, and head "south" to Dol-de-Bretagne, 26 km/25 minutes away. Around noon, the small town is very quiet, and parking in front of the Saint-Samson Cathedral** is free. Across the street, the tourist office is generous with info and gives us a great walking map/circuit: Cathedral, a stroll near the ramparts, the historic center** with its typical shopping streets and half-timbered houses, all covered at a leisurely pace in 45 minutes. Then a picnic on-site. It’s another 50 km/50 minutes to Saint-Cast-le-Guildo and the Armor Conseil agency for the apartment keys (Résidence du Casino, 72 m², 5th floor, 2 bedrooms, beach 20 meters away, insane morning and evening views, bed linen rental at Ohier 50 meters away, Carrefour City supermarket, and a bakery 200 meters away, plus a town center that hasn’t changed much in 25/30 years. Really, really nice. After settling in, a short walk is a must up to the heights of the Isle neighborhood behind the seaside residence... memories. Strangely, the well-known Crêperie Bretan’Or seems to be closed, as does the venerable Hôtel du Centre et des Plages (formerly "des Voyageurs")?? And for this reunion evening with the resort, a great crêpe/galette dinner at La Régal’ette, just 100 meters away. Day’s total: 12 km of walking for sightseeing.
A few photos at the bottom of the page...
* Read the rest on the blog: https://blogs.crespel.me/bretagne/
Here’s the account of the start of our 5/7-day trip in Normandy (then off to the neighbors in... Brittany):
Day 01 from Valenciennes to Mont Saint-Michel: Sunday, September 6, 2020.
After a detour through the south of Lille (picking up our son), we head southwest around 10:00 AM, taking the highways via Amiens, the Pont de Normandie, and Avranches to arrive at "the Mount" around 4:00 PM after 515 km. Parking P3 (14.20 € for 24 hours) for residents and hotels, located 50 meters from the start of the free round-trip shuttle included in the parking price (not too many tourists at this "late" Sunday hour), and we arrive at the hotel around 4:30 PM. Triple room with a view of the bay at Hôtel Du Guesclin for 1 night. From 5:15 PM to 6:30 PM, we tackle the complete tour of the ramparts counterclockwise from the Porte de l’Avancée, via the Tour du Nord (near the abbey entrance), passing in front of the abbey to reach the Tour Gabriel, and back to the start: stunning, not crowded, great weather, and amazing views. Dinner in the beautiful panoramic restaurant of the hotel, with a bay view at a "window" table (such a nice touch!). Of course, the day isn’t over, and we can then wander through a deserted main street and its unique atmosphere (photos below labeled "night" even though it’s only 9:15/9:30 PM). What a privilege!

Day 02 from Mont Saint-Michel to Saint-Cast: Monday, September 7, 2020.
After a memorable sunrise over the bay and a sit-down breakfast, we climb the steps to the Abbey for our online-reserved time slot (9:30 AM, 11 € per person). The "masked group" is quite large, though within normal limits, and the one-way Covid-marked route (with a small brochure) prevents crowds. No need to rush, and 1 hour 15 minutes later, we’re done. Sure, it doesn’t have the charm of a guided tour, but we’re not complaining about being there! We pick up our bags at the hotel, take the shuttle back, grab the car at Parking P3, and head "south" to Dol-de-Bretagne, 26 km/25 minutes away. Around noon, the small town is very quiet, and parking in front of the Saint-Samson Cathedral** is free. Across the street, the tourist office is generous with info and gives us a great walking map/circuit: Cathedral, a stroll near the ramparts, the historic center** with its typical shopping streets and half-timbered houses, all covered at a leisurely pace in 45 minutes. Then a picnic on-site. It’s another 50 km/50 minutes to Saint-Cast-le-Guildo and the Armor Conseil agency for the apartment keys (Résidence du Casino, 72 m², 5th floor, 2 bedrooms, beach 20 meters away, insane morning and evening views, bed linen rental at Ohier 50 meters away, Carrefour City supermarket, and a bakery 200 meters away, plus a town center that hasn’t changed much in 25/30 years. Really, really nice. After settling in, a short walk is a must up to the heights of the Isle neighborhood behind the seaside residence... memories. Strangely, the well-known Crêperie Bretan’Or seems to be closed, as does the venerable Hôtel du Centre et des Plages (formerly "des Voyageurs")?? And for this reunion evening with the resort, a great crêpe/galette dinner at La Régal’ette, just 100 meters away. Day’s total: 12 km of walking for sightseeing.
A few photos at the bottom of the page...
* Read the rest on the blog: https://blogs.crespel.me/bretagne/
Hi there,
I’m traveling alone from my remote Pyrenees home to Roissy Airport, arriving at Austerlitz Station. I’m a bit nervous about getting to the airport—could you suggest a route?
While you’re at it, maybe you could recommend a budget hotel near the airport?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best to you all
I’m traveling alone from my remote Pyrenees home to Roissy Airport, arriving at Austerlitz Station. I’m a bit nervous about getting to the airport—could you suggest a route?
While you’re at it, maybe you could recommend a budget hotel near the airport?
Thanks so much for your help!
Best to you all
Hi everyone,
I’m looking into a trip to Paris around mid-February. I’d love to know more about the temperature (weather) in Paris, museum access (closures or anything else), how easy it is to get around on foot (slippery due to ice?), public transport, etc.
Also, are there any events or activities I absolutely shouldn’t miss? I could adjust my dates based on what you know.
On another note, I’d love to catch a hockey game. Are there any around Paris? I’m happy to watch a few games no matter the level 🏒🥅
FYI, I’m not afraid of the cold since I’m from Quebec 😁😆😆🧑🌾
Thanks in advance for your help! 👍😊❤️❤️
I’m looking into a trip to Paris around mid-February. I’d love to know more about the temperature (weather) in Paris, museum access (closures or anything else), how easy it is to get around on foot (slippery due to ice?), public transport, etc.
Also, are there any events or activities I absolutely shouldn’t miss? I could adjust my dates based on what you know.
On another note, I’d love to catch a hockey game. Are there any around Paris? I’m happy to watch a few games no matter the level 🏒🥅
FYI, I’m not afraid of the cold since I’m from Quebec 😁😆😆🧑🌾
Thanks in advance for your help! 👍😊❤️❤️
Hi,
This summer, we’re planning a family trip to Corsica.
We’ve chosen Sari Solenzara because we want to combine: sea, mountain hikes, natural pools, canyoning, and peace and quiet. Does this choice seem like a good one to you?
Second question: which airport should we prioritize to have the easiest roads to access?
Thanks in advance for your tips! :-)
This summer, we’re planning a family trip to Corsica.
We’ve chosen Sari Solenzara because we want to combine: sea, mountain hikes, natural pools, canyoning, and peace and quiet. Does this choice seem like a good one to you?
Second question: which airport should we prioritize to have the easiest roads to access?
Thanks in advance for your tips! :-)
Hi everyone,
We’ve wanted to visit Alsace for a long time to see the famous and well-known "Christmas markets."
Apart from the one in Strasbourg, could you give us some tips on other markets (Sélestat, Colmar, Mulhouse)?
Also, any recommendations for hotels, restaurants, or things to see, etc.?
I know my question is a bit "basic," but we really need some expert advice.
Thanks in advance to all.
Hi there,
I’m planning to spend three days in the Annecy region. What would you recommend visiting? Just so you know, I love nature and enjoy walking, but I prefer hikes that aren’t longer than two hours.
Thanks for your great tips!
I’m planning to spend three days in the Annecy region. What would you recommend visiting? Just so you know, I love nature and enjoy walking, but I prefer hikes that aren’t longer than two hours.
Thanks for your great tips!
How do I get to ibis budget coeur orly from the Metro Line 14 Orly station on foot
We’ll be back from a river cruise with a stop in Strasbourg for just the afternoon and evening. We’d like to spend the afternoon in either Colmar or Kaysersberg and then return to Strasbourg for dinner and a stroll afterward. I’d love your advice on which spot—Colmar or Kaysersberg—you’d recommend. I’ve noticed there’s a bus line 145 that runs from Colmar to Kaysersberg, taking about 40 minutes and costing around 5 €.
Is there a train or another way to get directly from Strasbourg that’s quick and affordable? I think a taxi would be pretty expensive. The issue is we don’t have much time—our flight is the next morning. We’ve already visited Strasbourg, Colmar, Eguisheim, Ribeauvillé, and Riquewihr about 10 years ago and loved them all. Our river cruise covers the Main, Rhine, and Danube.
We’re really looking forward to seeing places in Germany, like Rothenburg ob der Tauber, among others.
Thanks, and looking forward to your tips!
Is there a train or another way to get directly from Strasbourg that’s quick and affordable? I think a taxi would be pretty expensive. The issue is we don’t have much time—our flight is the next morning. We’ve already visited Strasbourg, Colmar, Eguisheim, Ribeauvillé, and Riquewihr about 10 years ago and loved them all. Our river cruise covers the Main, Rhine, and Danube.
We’re really looking forward to seeing places in Germany, like Rothenburg ob der Tauber, among others.
Thanks, and looking forward to your tips!
Hi there,
My husband, our 1-year-old son, and I have decided to head to southern France in mid-September.
We don’t know the region at all—it’ll be our first time.
We only have 9 days, and we’re really torn between Provence for its gorgeous villages, its "slow" vibe, Provençal markets, flavors, and colors, and the famous French Riviera for its beaches, ports, and because it’s intrigued us for so long.
I found a beautiful place to stay in a *mas*, but it’s not in the region at all (it’s in the Gard).
My husband found a place he really likes in Saint-Aygulf, but before booking, I’m hesitating and wanted to get some advice.
Obviously, with only 9 days, we clearly have to choose. I thought about splitting the trip in two, but that seems like a bad idea for two reasons: first, we’re traveling with a little one, and second, if we spread ourselves too thin, we risk not seeing anything properly.
Since we don’t know the area at all, I’m worried the coastline might be too built-up with big buildings, etc., like Lloret de Mar (no offense to anyone who loves it—it’s just not what we’re looking for).
Anyway… what would you recommend for a first 9-day trip to the south?
Thanks so much!
My husband, our 1-year-old son, and I have decided to head to southern France in mid-September.
We don’t know the region at all—it’ll be our first time.
We only have 9 days, and we’re really torn between Provence for its gorgeous villages, its "slow" vibe, Provençal markets, flavors, and colors, and the famous French Riviera for its beaches, ports, and because it’s intrigued us for so long.
I found a beautiful place to stay in a *mas*, but it’s not in the region at all (it’s in the Gard).
My husband found a place he really likes in Saint-Aygulf, but before booking, I’m hesitating and wanted to get some advice.
Obviously, with only 9 days, we clearly have to choose. I thought about splitting the trip in two, but that seems like a bad idea for two reasons: first, we’re traveling with a little one, and second, if we spread ourselves too thin, we risk not seeing anything properly.
Since we don’t know the area at all, I’m worried the coastline might be too built-up with big buildings, etc., like Lloret de Mar (no offense to anyone who loves it—it’s just not what we’re looking for).
Anyway… what would you recommend for a first 9-day trip to the south?
Thanks so much!
Hi
Does anyone know a reliable and affordable shuttle service from Roissy airport to Lille train station?
I know there are TGVs, but we’d like to avoid a long wait at Roissy station.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
BD
Hi there,
We’re heading to Forcalquier as a couple and would love to explore the Valensole area, including the Verdon Gorge, etc. We’ll be there for 5 days, so I’d like to put together a little rundown of things to see, plus the best tips—what to avoid, what to recommend, restaurants, and so on.
Thanks so much!
Hi everyone, after a stay in the South and one in the North, I’m planning a mini road trip in Corsica (Bastia-Bastia) in June to explore places I haven’t seen yet. Since we’re heading to the mountains later this year, we’ve deliberately skipped the Corsican mountains. Could you share your thoughts and, most importantly, suggest things to see? We love nature, reasonable hikes, peaceful spots, and small villages. No cities. No boat excursions (yes, that includes Piana and Scandola). We already know the area between Bastia and Calvi.
June 7 Flight arrival in Bastia and night at the hotel
June 8 Drive to Calvi (beach and/or fortress) Meal at Les Boucaniers restaurant Night in Calvi
June 9 Walk from Calvi fortress to Alga beach Charcuterie platter at A Casetta Calvi Night in Calvi
June 10 Drive from Calvi to Piana Buvette du col de la Croix and visit the orientation table Chemin des muletiers (Muleteers’ Path) Or Sentier de la source des roches bleues (Blue Rocks Spring Trail) counterclockwise Or (less scenic) Tête du chien (Dog’s Head, starting at the parking lot) Dinner at Épicerie Castellani in Piana Night in Piana
June 11 Drive from Piana to Propriano Arone beach and meal at Le Café de la plage Drive along the coast, stopping wherever we like Night in Propriano
June 12 Hike starting from Campomoro in the Jardin du Vent (Wind Garden), and visit the Genoese tower of Campomoro Meal in Campomoro: restaurant Chez Pierre Paul U spuntinu Night in Propriano
June 13 Around Propriano (avoid Capu Laurosu beach—sewage treatment plant...) Night in Propriano
June 14 Drive from Propriano to Bastia airport Meal at L’Éternisula in Zonza Aiguilles de Bavella (Hole of the Bomb) Night at the same hotel as arrival
June 15 Departure
June 7 Flight arrival in Bastia and night at the hotel
June 8 Drive to Calvi (beach and/or fortress) Meal at Les Boucaniers restaurant Night in Calvi
June 9 Walk from Calvi fortress to Alga beach Charcuterie platter at A Casetta Calvi Night in Calvi
June 10 Drive from Calvi to Piana Buvette du col de la Croix and visit the orientation table Chemin des muletiers (Muleteers’ Path) Or Sentier de la source des roches bleues (Blue Rocks Spring Trail) counterclockwise Or (less scenic) Tête du chien (Dog’s Head, starting at the parking lot) Dinner at Épicerie Castellani in Piana Night in Piana
June 11 Drive from Piana to Propriano Arone beach and meal at Le Café de la plage Drive along the coast, stopping wherever we like Night in Propriano
June 12 Hike starting from Campomoro in the Jardin du Vent (Wind Garden), and visit the Genoese tower of Campomoro Meal in Campomoro: restaurant Chez Pierre Paul U spuntinu Night in Propriano
June 13 Around Propriano (avoid Capu Laurosu beach—sewage treatment plant...) Night in Propriano
June 14 Drive from Propriano to Bastia airport Meal at L’Éternisula in Zonza Aiguilles de Bavella (Hole of the Bomb) Night at the same hotel as arrival
June 15 Departure