Bonjour,
Je pars 2 mois (mi oct / mi dec) en Argentine et Pérou.
J'hesite entre le Chili ou la Bolivie comme pays intermediaire. La bolivie m'intéresse mais coté climat à ce moment la ?
Sinon dans quel ordre ?
Merci
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Chili ou Bolivie?
by Alep
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Hola,
pour le nord du chili il me semble que c´est plutot desertique plus ou moins toute l´année (notamment le désert d´atacama). Pour la bolivie, c´est la fin de la saison seche et le debut de la saison des pluies.. pas la meilleure période mais le pays est tellement magnifique! On te conseillerais bien de faire les 2 ... du nord ouest argentin jusqu´au désert d´atacama au chili puis tour de 3 jours pour rejoindre Uyuni en Bolivie (paysages hors du commun mais peut etre compliqué en saison humide...). D´uyuni train pour Oruro puis bus pour la Paz (très chouette capitale). Ensuite tu es à coté du lac titicaca et donc du Pérou. Nous sommes actuellement à Arequipa au Pérou et retournons bientôt en Bolivie (voir notre blog pour ce voyage : http://ameriklatina.over-blog.com ). Pour nous le Pérou est très interessant, bcp de choses à voir, à faire, mais trop touristique... on préfère (de loin) la Bolivie!
Bon voyage!
Patrice et Carine de Toulouse
http://ameriklatina.free.fr (Amérique latine)
Salut,
J'ai découvert la Bolivie fin octobre - novembre. Le climat était tout à fait agréable (je n'ai pas pu comparer à nos mois d'été été qui sont paraît-il assez froids).
A ne pas manquer les jours qui précèdent la Tousaint et la Toussaint, des moments étonnants, d'une très grande ferveur (et je ne suis pas le moins du monde croyant). Peut-être en est-il de même au Pérou.
De toute façon un voyage assurément inoubliable.
J'ai découvert la Bolivie fin octobre - novembre. Le climat était tout à fait agréable (je n'ai pas pu comparer à nos mois d'été été qui sont paraît-il assez froids).
A ne pas manquer les jours qui précèdent la Tousaint et la Toussaint, des moments étonnants, d'une très grande ferveur (et je ne suis pas le moins du monde croyant). Peut-être en est-il de même au Pérou.
De toute façon un voyage assurément inoubliable.
Bonjour Alep,
Ta question est un peu vague, 2 mois pour l'Argentine + le Pérou c'est bien, mais très peu pour de telles distances, donc je suppose que tu cherches le moyen le plus rapide d'arriver au Pérou via la route. Si tel est le cas, par prudence je te conseillerais le Chili, effectivement dans le nord, désert de Atacama tu n'auras pas de pluie et donc pas de risques de retard dûs aux intempéries, ni aux grèves qui sont légions en Bolivie, si si je t'assure, mieux qu'en France !
Mais une fois de plus cela dépend du parcours que tu souhaites effectuer. Voici un site sur la météo qui pourra peut-être t'aider dans ta préparation : http://www.meteoconsult.fr/...nent=3&langue=fr
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Ta question est un peu vague, 2 mois pour l'Argentine + le Pérou c'est bien, mais très peu pour de telles distances, donc je suppose que tu cherches le moyen le plus rapide d'arriver au Pérou via la route. Si tel est le cas, par prudence je te conseillerais le Chili, effectivement dans le nord, désert de Atacama tu n'auras pas de pluie et donc pas de risques de retard dûs aux intempéries, ni aux grèves qui sont légions en Bolivie, si si je t'assure, mieux qu'en France !
Mais une fois de plus cela dépend du parcours que tu souhaites effectuer. Voici un site sur la météo qui pourra peut-être t'aider dans ta préparation : http://www.meteoconsult.fr/...nent=3&langue=fr
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FABULEUX !!!!!! Quelle chance tu as !
Bon, mois j'ai fait la même chose en décembre il y a quelques années, et je n'ai même pas pu aller en Agrnetine tellement le reste était bien (mais je regrette...). Voici grosso modo ce que j'ai fait :
En fait le Pérou est bien, mais franchement la Bolvie est 1000 fois plus surpenante. Il est vrai que je ne connais pas le nord du Pérou qui est paraît-il très intéressant. Arrivée à Lima, dodo, et avion pour Cuzco Cuzco + Macchu Picchu Tu decends vite fait vers le Lac titicaca en trian c'est inoubliable Tu traine un peu au bord du lac et tu passes en Bolivie Tu vas à La Paz (génial, plein de trucs à faire autour, Coroico, Sorata...) Sucre Potosi (l'Est aussi est bien, mais pas eu le temps) Tu descnds jusqu'à Uyuni Là tu trouves des copains pour monter une jeep pour rejoindre San Pedro de Atacama au Chili Et là tu as 3/4 jours de promenade (via notamment le fameux désert de sel, Salar de Uyuni) que tu considéreras peut-être comme le plus beau voyage de ta vie mais je ne t'en dis pas plus. Tu arrives à San Pedro, tu enlèves ta laine polaire et tu enfiles tes tongs...Voilà ! Tu restes un peu dans le coin, c'est très sympa (petit village western mais à 1500m d'altitude...) Et là moi je suis descendu jusq'à Santiago (sympa) puis la région des lacs (beau mais moins sympa, mais petite incursion en Arg pour manger de la viande à Baroliche... !). C'est là qu tu peux changer : le Chili est sympa, mais si tu n'envisages pas d'aller à l'extrême sud, je te conseillerais plutôt de rejoindre l'Argentine (région de Salta). De là, tu peux descendre l'Argentine via Buenos Aires et tu pourras là aussi descendre jusqu'au Sud.
Pour la partie Argentine je parle sous le contrôle de ceux qui connaissent, je n'y suis malheureusuement pas allé, mais si c'était à refaire, tout ceci constitue pour moi l'itinéraire idéal. Tenable en deux mois même si tu traîneras pas bcp.
Bon voyage, veinard ;-)
Thomas
En fait le Pérou est bien, mais franchement la Bolvie est 1000 fois plus surpenante. Il est vrai que je ne connais pas le nord du Pérou qui est paraît-il très intéressant. Arrivée à Lima, dodo, et avion pour Cuzco Cuzco + Macchu Picchu Tu decends vite fait vers le Lac titicaca en trian c'est inoubliable Tu traine un peu au bord du lac et tu passes en Bolivie Tu vas à La Paz (génial, plein de trucs à faire autour, Coroico, Sorata...) Sucre Potosi (l'Est aussi est bien, mais pas eu le temps) Tu descnds jusqu'à Uyuni Là tu trouves des copains pour monter une jeep pour rejoindre San Pedro de Atacama au Chili Et là tu as 3/4 jours de promenade (via notamment le fameux désert de sel, Salar de Uyuni) que tu considéreras peut-être comme le plus beau voyage de ta vie mais je ne t'en dis pas plus. Tu arrives à San Pedro, tu enlèves ta laine polaire et tu enfiles tes tongs...Voilà ! Tu restes un peu dans le coin, c'est très sympa (petit village western mais à 1500m d'altitude...) Et là moi je suis descendu jusq'à Santiago (sympa) puis la région des lacs (beau mais moins sympa, mais petite incursion en Arg pour manger de la viande à Baroliche... !). C'est là qu tu peux changer : le Chili est sympa, mais si tu n'envisages pas d'aller à l'extrême sud, je te conseillerais plutôt de rejoindre l'Argentine (région de Salta). De là, tu peux descendre l'Argentine via Buenos Aires et tu pourras là aussi descendre jusqu'au Sud.
Pour la partie Argentine je parle sous le contrôle de ceux qui connaissent, je n'y suis malheureusuement pas allé, mais si c'était à refaire, tout ceci constitue pour moi l'itinéraire idéal. Tenable en deux mois même si tu traîneras pas bcp.
Bon voyage, veinard ;-)
Thomas
Bonjour,
Regarde Go Voyages sur le Net, leur moteur est bien car il te permet de te décaler d'un ou plusieurs jours à l'aller ou au retour et comparer ansi les tarifs. Sinon Anyway aussi, mais c'est devenu TravelPrice ou Lastminute je crois donc un peu dommage mais ils sont biens. Garde à l'esprit qu'il se peut que les vols Buenos Aires - Lima ne soient pas si chers du fait des prix en Argentine (qui grimpe à nouveau cependant paraît-il) et qu'un Vol Paris-Lima, Buenos-Aires-Paris te coûtera nécessairement plsu cher qu'un AR Paris-Lima. A comparer donc en allant par ex sur le site d'une compagnie aérienne intrnationale Argentine pour regarder le prix d'un Buenos-Aires Lima. Voilà. Bon voyage
Regarde Go Voyages sur le Net, leur moteur est bien car il te permet de te décaler d'un ou plusieurs jours à l'aller ou au retour et comparer ansi les tarifs. Sinon Anyway aussi, mais c'est devenu TravelPrice ou Lastminute je crois donc un peu dommage mais ils sont biens. Garde à l'esprit qu'il se peut que les vols Buenos Aires - Lima ne soient pas si chers du fait des prix en Argentine (qui grimpe à nouveau cependant paraît-il) et qu'un Vol Paris-Lima, Buenos-Aires-Paris te coûtera nécessairement plsu cher qu'un AR Paris-Lima. A comparer donc en allant par ex sur le site d'une compagnie aérienne intrnationale Argentine pour regarder le prix d'un Buenos-Aires Lima. Voilà. Bon voyage
La Bolivie est plus dépaysant que le Chili et aussi beaucoup moins cher. En passant à Lapaz où j'étais resté 3 jours, je m'étais un peu lâcher au niveau achat et j'étais reparti avec 30 Kilos sur le dos ce qui est particulièrement éprouvant à cet altitude. J'avais fait ma provision de cadeau pour le Noël suivant : pullover, écharpe, gant, bonnet en Alpaga. Tu peux même y trouver des robes en Lycra de très bonne qualité 10 fois moins chère qu'en France.
Si tu en as les moyens, n'hésite pas à prendre l'avion de temps en temps plutôt que de faire 30 heures de bus puisque le coût du transport aérien est bien moindre qu'en France.
En Bolivie tu as à peu près tous les climats entre Lapaz qui est 3800 mètres et Santacruz (je n'y pas allé) qui est au niveau l'eau. La visite des mines de Potosi est à ne pas manquer, les conditions de travail y sont effroyables et cela nous ramène à l'époque de Zola (pour la France).
Pascal
Hola tlimlam !!!
J habite depuis 6 mois a Buenos Aires, et j'ai 3amis qui arrivent mi-aout pour voyager. On a 2 semaines. Je voudrais aller a Salta et apres faire une boucle en Bolivie... C est pour ca que ton petit voyage de San Pedro a Uyuni de 4jours m interesse trop.. car je n arrive pas a trouver des tours qui ne sont pas en dollars sur internet! tu l as achete sur place ? où? ca vous a coûté combien?
Tu me rassure en me disant que la Bolivie est plus surprenante que le Pérou, car pas mal de gens me disaient le contraire. ET en 2semaines, on a bien sur pas le tps de monter en bus jusqu au Perou !
Enfin, le Nord du Chili avec le désert de ATacama merite une autre excursion ? ET avec le tps qu on a, tu penses que ca vaut le coup d aller jusqu a LaPaz ou Sucre?
Je sais, ca fait pas mal de questions mais je ne connais personne qui soit allé en Bolivie par le Chili (seulement par Jujuy..)
Muchas gracias !!!! Virginie.
J habite depuis 6 mois a Buenos Aires, et j'ai 3amis qui arrivent mi-aout pour voyager. On a 2 semaines. Je voudrais aller a Salta et apres faire une boucle en Bolivie... C est pour ca que ton petit voyage de San Pedro a Uyuni de 4jours m interesse trop.. car je n arrive pas a trouver des tours qui ne sont pas en dollars sur internet! tu l as achete sur place ? où? ca vous a coûté combien?
Tu me rassure en me disant que la Bolivie est plus surprenante que le Pérou, car pas mal de gens me disaient le contraire. ET en 2semaines, on a bien sur pas le tps de monter en bus jusqu au Perou !
Enfin, le Nord du Chili avec le désert de ATacama merite une autre excursion ? ET avec le tps qu on a, tu penses que ca vaut le coup d aller jusqu a LaPaz ou Sucre?
Je sais, ca fait pas mal de questions mais je ne connais personne qui soit allé en Bolivie par le Chili (seulement par Jujuy..)
Muchas gracias !!!! Virginie.
Virginie
Hola Virginie,
Tu as bien de la chance d'habiter Buenos Aires ! Tu connais Julitte Decré ? J'imagine qu'il y a un paquet de français là bas ceci dit. Bon, avant tout, je dois te dire que j’ai fait ce trip il a pas mal de temps, début 2000 ou même 1999 je pense. Évidemment yavait le net, mais pas des masses de voyagistes et pas trop trop de cybercafés en Bolivie et au Pérou non plus (juste qq uns qd même). Bref, donc évidemment j’avais rien prévu de Paris, et comme en plus j’avais le temps (3 mois à peu près), je ne m’en suis pas trop soucié. D’ailleurs bien mal m’en a pris, puisque comme j’étais seul à ce moment là j’ai du faire pendant 3 jours l’arrivée du bus du soir à Uyuni pour pouvoir enfin « construire » ma jeep avec 4 anglais qui d’ailleurs ne se connaissaient pas non plus. DONC : moi j’ai prévu sur place, et j’ai un peu galéré, masi uniquement parce que j’étais seul. Au départ de San Pedro, si vous êtes déjà 4, vous trouverez un truc par une agence sur place sans problème en vous renseignant dès l’arrivée, quitte à attendre 1 jour ou 2, mais San Pedro est trop sympa de toutes façons. Mais c’est le seul point positif car c’est vrai qu’Uyuni c’est chiant d’attendre là bas, parce que ce trip est beaucoup plus sympa dans le sens Bolivie-Chili que l’inverse. Enfin bon, l’inverse est quand même pas mal non plus. Alors pourquoi tu tenterais pas de commencer à Salta, cap au Nord, un petit coup à l’Est de la Bolivie, puis La Paz (ou directement Potosi si vous n’avez pas assez de temps) et redescendre vers Uyuni ? Ca ferait une boucle dans le sens inverse des aiguilles d’une montre… et tu feras le trip en jeep dans le bon sens. Sinon La Paz, oui il faut y aller. Renseignez vous sur les conditions actuelles, il paraît que ça craint un peu plus maintenant (enfin ça n’a jamais été très sûr non plus), mais évidemment nettement moins que les autres capitales d’Amérique du Sud (Santiago mise à part bien sûr). Moi j’ai trouvé ça magique, j’y suis retourné plusieurs fois pendant mon séjour. D’autres aiment moins. C bruyant, il n’y a que des indiens, mais c’est simple et très sympa, et ya plein de petits hotels cool (Hotel Austria si vous aimez la simplicité, je me souviens encore du nom…situation idéale). Voili. Bon voyage, et à ta dispo si tu as besoin d’autres renseignements, même s’ils ne sont pas trop trop actualisés… A bientôt,
Thomas
Tu as bien de la chance d'habiter Buenos Aires ! Tu connais Julitte Decré ? J'imagine qu'il y a un paquet de français là bas ceci dit. Bon, avant tout, je dois te dire que j’ai fait ce trip il a pas mal de temps, début 2000 ou même 1999 je pense. Évidemment yavait le net, mais pas des masses de voyagistes et pas trop trop de cybercafés en Bolivie et au Pérou non plus (juste qq uns qd même). Bref, donc évidemment j’avais rien prévu de Paris, et comme en plus j’avais le temps (3 mois à peu près), je ne m’en suis pas trop soucié. D’ailleurs bien mal m’en a pris, puisque comme j’étais seul à ce moment là j’ai du faire pendant 3 jours l’arrivée du bus du soir à Uyuni pour pouvoir enfin « construire » ma jeep avec 4 anglais qui d’ailleurs ne se connaissaient pas non plus. DONC : moi j’ai prévu sur place, et j’ai un peu galéré, masi uniquement parce que j’étais seul. Au départ de San Pedro, si vous êtes déjà 4, vous trouverez un truc par une agence sur place sans problème en vous renseignant dès l’arrivée, quitte à attendre 1 jour ou 2, mais San Pedro est trop sympa de toutes façons. Mais c’est le seul point positif car c’est vrai qu’Uyuni c’est chiant d’attendre là bas, parce que ce trip est beaucoup plus sympa dans le sens Bolivie-Chili que l’inverse. Enfin bon, l’inverse est quand même pas mal non plus. Alors pourquoi tu tenterais pas de commencer à Salta, cap au Nord, un petit coup à l’Est de la Bolivie, puis La Paz (ou directement Potosi si vous n’avez pas assez de temps) et redescendre vers Uyuni ? Ca ferait une boucle dans le sens inverse des aiguilles d’une montre… et tu feras le trip en jeep dans le bon sens. Sinon La Paz, oui il faut y aller. Renseignez vous sur les conditions actuelles, il paraît que ça craint un peu plus maintenant (enfin ça n’a jamais été très sûr non plus), mais évidemment nettement moins que les autres capitales d’Amérique du Sud (Santiago mise à part bien sûr). Moi j’ai trouvé ça magique, j’y suis retourné plusieurs fois pendant mon séjour. D’autres aiment moins. C bruyant, il n’y a que des indiens, mais c’est simple et très sympa, et ya plein de petits hotels cool (Hotel Austria si vous aimez la simplicité, je me souviens encore du nom…situation idéale). Voili. Bon voyage, et à ta dispo si tu as besoin d’autres renseignements, même s’ils ne sont pas trop trop actualisés… A bientôt,
Thomas
Petit oubli, je rebondis sur l'email de Pascal ci-dessus que je viens de voir. C'est vrai que les mines de Postosi c’est inoubliable. Potosi est d’ailleurs une ville sans doute moins belle mais aussi plus intéressante que Sucre. J’émes-là un avis tout à fait personnel mais l’archietcture coloniale de Sucre n’est, loin s’en faut, pas la plus belle du continent, et du coup Potosi, qui est unique, est vraiment plus étonnante.
Thomas
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So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Hi there, I’ll be in Brazil from December 10th to the end of February.
I’ve sketched out a rough itinerary but I’m not sure how to arrange it—considering the climate, year-end holidays, and Carnival.
Basically, I’m thinking of the Amazon, the Northeast coast with Lençóis Maranhenses National Park (but skipping Chapada Diamantina),
Ouro Preto, Paraty, and Ilha Grande—but no Rio visit.
Is this doable in 3 months?
Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!