On m'a parlé d'un train de nuit qui relie Shanghai et Pékin, avec couchettes, un peu dans l'esprit de l'Orient-Express.
Savez-vous où et comment je peux réserver, depuis la France, des billets pour ce trajet ? Quelle est la compagnie qui assure ces trajets ? Est-ce que c'est confortable, agréable ?...
la vente commence je crois 12 jours avant le départ et c'est pris d'assaut donc faut prévoir , nous n'avons pas pu avoir de place , rien avant 10 nuits .....on a pris l'avion mais j'aurai préféré le train !
perso je n'ai jamais eu de probleme pour mes billets meme en achetant 2 jours avant mais le jour meme difficile si tu veux des couchettes molles et meme couchette dure du bas ou du milieu (experience a guiyang) alors je me suis rabattu sur le bus (belle experience en bus couchette toute la nuit)
soyez avoir un bon voyage en Chine.
selon experience personnelle, vayage en train en chine, est decouvertious, comme cet ami precedent a dit, on a deux classe de couchette peut etre choisi, molle et dure, molle considere comme 1ere classe, un cabinet peut etre serrer a interieur, deux cotes, de chaque cote deux couchette dont une en bas une en haut.celle de dure a chaque cote 3 couchette et le cabinet est demi ouvert, donc la difference est comfortablite et discretete, en chaque couchette molle, il est sans contraint lorsque on est en geste assis, et pour couchette dure, seule celle de bas est comfortable en assis, ceux de milieu et en haut, sera gene cause par l'hauteur limitee, mais en couchette dure, plus de chance a voir et connaitre les quotidians chinois, et en plus, peu de gens qui occupe la couchette en bas refuse ceder une place de son lit quand il dort pas.
l'assurance:quand on achete le ticket de train, il a deja contenu une assurance de companie nationale ferrail, si vous avez encore envie a rassurer le trajet, pouvez assurer depuis France avant que vous partez pour couvrir tous sejours en Chine.
normalement un hotel de 3 etoile ou plus, aura l'anglophone assistance et un guichet de vente de ticket de train, la commission en frais de n importe quel ticket de train est seulement 5 rmb=0.6euro.
donc, pas de souci, et bon voyage.
bonjour, je reviens de chine et j'ai découvert à shanghai que les chemins de fer chinois ont des bureaux de vente en ville. ça évite de faire la queue dans les gares, et au moins un employé parle un anglais suffisant pour se faire comprendre. le nom chinois est " huoche shou pia chu "....ça se prononce à peu près comme ça. je joins 2 adresses dans le quartier jing an. pour les trains j'ai fait hangzhou-pékin en couchette molle, TGV qui part à 8h15 du soir pour arriver à 7h30 du matin. pas très bonne nuit car le train est bruyant, en revanche sur la ligne shanghai-suzhou, les TGV sont comparables aux nôtres en insonorisation, mieux en aménagements, 35 mn pour le trajet à une pointe de vitesse affichée de 339 kmh.
je rentre de Chine aussi et nous avons pris 3 trains de nuit de 10-12h. Comme nous sommes partis pendant la période (à éviter) des vacances scolaires, nous savions que la réservation risquait d'etre compliquée. Nous sommes donc passés par une agence locale, le CITS (qui a des bureaux partout en Chine), qui nous a réservé (moyennant une commission "confortable") tous nos billets, meme plus de 10jours à l'avance, et meme pour une ville dans une autre localité... Le top pour nous. Effectivement, normalement ton hotel peut le faire pour toi aussi (moyennant une commission plus raisonnable). Si tu as du temps, tu peux aussi te déplacer par toi même, mais en général, le touriste européen est plutot pressé (ou a peu de temps).
Nous avons pris une fois des couchettes "dures" (2e classe) où effectivement on est 6 par compartiment et c'est plutot bruyant (mais confortable), et deux fois les "molles" (1ere classe) où on est 4 par compartiment, calme et confortable. Petits oreillers et couette pour chacun, mieux que la SNCF. En plus comme partout en chine il y a de l'eau chaude à disposition, parfaite pour le thé et les nouilles ! Nous on en garde un très bon souvenir, d'autant que si tes voisins sont sympa le temps passe vite.
Nous revenons également d'un circuit Pékin Taijuan, Pingyao, Xian, Shanghai du 8 au 23 septembre.
Nous avions demandé à l'hôtel de nous prendre les billets, moyennant une commission de ... 20%.
Exemple : le train en couchette molle entre Xian et Shanghai coute environ 500 RMB (soit 60 €); 600 RMB par l'hôtel.
Problème jusqu'à la fin octobre : avec l'Expo Universelle les trains sont complets, donc difficile d'avoir de la place.
Pour un vol compter (2 heures au lieu de 15h en train de nuit) il faut compter 1 300 RMB + 50 de transfert par le fameux train à sustentation magnétique, le Maglev entre l'aéroport de Pudong et la ville.
Jean-Luc d'Angers
"Rien n'est plus grande richesse que celle de l'esprit".
Ah en me relisant je vois que je suis un peu hors sujet.
J'étais encore la tête dans notre voyage....
Tu nous demandais entre Shanghai et Pékin; par Xian c'est évidement un peu long.
J'espère néanmoins t'avoir donné quelques informations; pour me faire pardonner voici l'adresse dont je me suis servi pour les horaires : http://www.chine-train-ticket.com/
Jean-Luc d'Angers
"Rien n'est plus grande richesse que celle de l'esprit".
tu peux également noter qu'entre shanghai et pékin l'avion est quelquefois moins cher que le train surtout avec les commissions d'agence. par le train, tu gagnes la nuit d'hôtel. sur place vas dans une agence china eastern, ils ont toujours des prix interessants. il y en a une a coté de la gare centrale de shanghai. en ce qui concerne octobre, j'ai eu sans problèmes des billets entre le 1 et le 7, que ce soit train ou avion.
Ton message m' inquiète un peu : les trains sont-ils vraiment pris d' assaut en ce mois d' octobre ?
Nous partons dans 4 jours pour shanghaï où nous arriverons le 22 au matin . Nous comptons aller à pékin par le train dans la nuit du 28 au 29 octobre . Nous pensions réserver par l' hôtel en arrivant soit 6 jours avant la date de départ .
Penses-tu ( ou quelqu' un peut-il me dire ) si çà craint ou s' il vaut mieux réserver avant de partir ?
Merci
ne sois pas inquiète, tu n'auras aucun problème. mais évite les gares. si tu es à shanghai va dans un des bureaux de vente dont j'ai parlé dans un message plus haut, il n'y a pas de queue, ça parle suffusamment anglais pour se faire comprendre. j'avais joint 2 adresses dans jing an district mais il y en a un peu partout. et pas de commissions !
pénibles n'est pas le mot : simplement ça peut etre une perte de temps en particulier à shanghai et pékin. et certaines ont été complètementr modifiées avec l'arrivée des trains très rapides ex : suzhou où nous nous sommes lamentablement plantés sur les directions; il pleuvait et impossible de s'orienter par le soleil !
Me voilà donc rassurée , si çà parle suffisamment anglais alors c' est faisable !
De toutes façons on s' en occupera en priorité en arrivant vendredi car je serais vraiment déçue si on devait se rabattre sur l' avion !
Quelles températures avez-vous eues à shanghai et pekin début octobre ? Car nous préparons les valises et c' est très dur de se faire une idée sur quoi emporter ... Quand on regarde les prévisions météos à 12 jours on a des écarts de température de 10° d' un site à l' autre !
shanghai est idealement dans son autumn, ni chaud, ni froid, ni humidite...
et pekin sera belle en couleur de feuille rouge, mais un peu plus caille en compare avec shanghai, surtout la matinee et la nuit, un blouson ou un pull sera raisonnable.
Quelles températures avez-vous eues à shanghai et pekin début octobre ? Car nous préparons les valises et c' est très dur de se faire une idée sur quoi emporter ... Quand on regarde les prévisions météos à 12 jours on a des écarts de température de 10° d' un site à l' autre !
Les données, les modèles mathématiques et les ordinateurs actuels sont incapables de calculer des prévisions à 10 jours. Ne vous fiez pas à des sites internet qui prétendent fournir des prévisions à aussi long terme. Regardez plutôt les températures constatées l'an dernier, par exemple sur le site www.wunderground.com .
Les températures constatées à Beijing début octobre ne sont pas pertinentes, car la saison est en train de basculer vers l'hiver. L'an dernier, il a neigé le WE du 1er novembre à Beijing.
Qui plus est, il ne faut pas confondre météo théorique, et réelle, respectivement. Mon site météo chinois favori annonce pour aujourd'hui "ensoleillé " (qing). Il est fort possible que ce soit vrai à la Grande Muraille (j'en ai l'expérience), mais en ville, c'est une vaste blague : avec la pollution urbaine, je n'ai pas vu le soleil depuis deux jours, ce qui rafraîchit d'autant l'air. Actuellement, à Beijing, le pull est indispensable, et le blouson d'hiver conseillé, surtout si vous passez la journée dehors.
il faisait un temps maussade les 11,12,13 à shanghai. températures de 22 à 25° avec petites averses de temps en temps. nous avons visité suzhou en partie sous la pluie. sur pékin grand beau, sauf la pollution, 20,22° dans la journée? petite fraicheur le soir. grande muraille, grand beau dégagé, 20°.
je suis bien d' accord avec toi , la météo à 12 jours n' est pas fiable ... mais c' est vrai qu' on la consulte quand-même quand on part à l' autre bout du monde et que l' on se demande quoi mettre dans sa valise !
effectivement on sera à pekin du 29 au 1er novembre et comme on passera une bonne partie des journées dehors il faut prévoir des blousons ...
ton avis m' aide bien car c' est surtout la température à pekin qui me posait question , je pense que pour shanghai on n' aura pas froid ...
si tu peux, pars très tôt. en partant à 7h du centre de pékin, nous sommes arrivés à 8h30 à mutianyu. il y avait encore peu de monde. le gros des troupes est arrivé vers 11h/midi.
quand à te lever tôt le dimanche après ton arrivée pour aller à l'expo, n'oublies pas que tu seras en plein décalage horaire. de plus c'est quand la nuit tombe que ça devient très beau avec les lumières et si vous arrivez dès le matin tes enfants risquent d'etre sur les genoux le soir, encore qu'ils sont souvent plus résistants que nous. si tu peux va prendre un verre vers 18H sur la terrasse du pavillon français- dont c'est le seul interet- et tu assisteras à l'illumination du pont et des pavillons.
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Hi,
My departure is coming up soon—two months backpacking in Taiwan, so much to discover! I’d love to hear about your travel experiences.
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation.
I do stone sculpture.
I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history.
Marie
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan.
From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan.
Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan?
(I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us?
(According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara
- Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights
- Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights
- Himeji: 1 night
- Kyoto: 4 nights
- Kanazawa: 2 nights
- Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights
- Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights
- Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks)
Departure from Tokyo
I booked my trip from May 5 to 26, 2027. I’m starting to plan my itinerary and look for hotels (I know it’s early!). While I’ve found some in Seoul and Busan, I’m noticing that elsewhere—like Yeosu—most hotels aren’t available (on Booking.com, for example, almost all are unavailable). AI tells me not to worry because hotels in South Korea only open bookings 6 months in advance, so it’s normal to see most of them unavailable on booking sites.
Could you confirm this for me and, of course, reassure me (!)? Thanks so much.
philippe
We’re back from a one-month trip to China and wanted to share our itinerary. Hopefully, this can give future travelers some ideas for exploring this beautiful country.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City
Jinshanling → Great Wall
Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate
Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars
Fenghuang → riverside houses
Ping’an → terraced rice fields
Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces
Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains
Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train.
On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night.
On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku:
- 2 nights in the Iya Valley
- Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights.
- Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka.
We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip:
- Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita
- Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro
- Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD
- Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening
We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy...
I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving...
Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu.
For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)?
Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot?
For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung.
Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
I could really use your help to finalize our trip to Japan.
We’re heading there for three weeks with my partner, starting November 10th. Our plan was to visit Tokyo, Kyoto, and a few stops in between (nothing too original so far…).
However, we’re more into nature and hiking, so even though we do want to explore Tokyo and Kyoto, we’d like to maximize nature stops between the two. Initially, we’d considered places like Kamikochi, but I understand it’s not accessible this late in the season.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable?
We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change?
thanks
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS.
Could you recommend something?
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe
StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there...
But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it.
2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them.
3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days
Gyeongju: 2 days
Busan: 3 days
Jeju: 4 days
Seoul: 2 days
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo
1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked)
4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked)
2 nights in Osaka
4 nights back in Tokyo
I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno.
I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better.
Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited.
I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest?
Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula
Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather
Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara)
Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier
Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting
Hiroshima: 2 nights
Miyajima: 1 night
Takayama: 3 days
Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport)
Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights
Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara)
Osaka: 2 nights
Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night
Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me
Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay
Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima
Hiroshima: 2 nights
Miyajima: 1 night
Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo)
Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights
Kawaguchiko: 1 night
Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara)
Osaka: 2 nights
Koya-san: 1 night
Kumano Kodo: 3 nights
Takayama: 3 nights
Kanazawa: 3 nights
Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points:
I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets.
I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted.
I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing
Day 2 to 4: Beijing
Day 5: Datong
Day 6 & 7: Pingyao
Day 8 to 10: Xi'an
Day 11: Luoyang
Day 12: Dengfeng
flight
Day 13 & 14: Chongqing
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Day 15 & 16: Lijiang
Day 17: Dali
Day 18: Kunming
Day 19: Jianshui
Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang
Day 22: Travel via Guilin
Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo
Day 25: Guilin
Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie
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Day 28 & 29: Shanghai
Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently:
1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think?
2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority?
Thanks so much in advance for your help.
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026:
Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris).
This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome.
Thanks so much!
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns.
A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?