bonjour,
je suis également à la recherche de ces informations... et voulais savoir si c'etait vraiment possible de prendre son visa pour la chine à oulan bator... j'ai lu plein de vieux posts qui disent que oui, mais rien de récent.. quelqu'un aurait-il des infos récentes (fin 2011-2012)??
si oui, quel est le délai et quelles sont les pieces à fournir? sur le site de l'ambassade ils disent qu'il faut fournir un billet d'avion aller/retour..comment faire quand on n'en a pas??
d'avance merci pour vos réponses !!
claire
Autant rassurer tout le monde tout de suite, oui c'est tout à fait possible d'obtenir un visa chinois à Oulan-Bator, la demande mininum est de trente jours, pas de visa de transit. Pour plus c'est négociable, il suffit de trouver les bons mots.
Il ne faut qu'une photo et son passeport, ensuite il faut remplir un formulaire en anglais de quelques pages, plutôt précis. Pour les reste il suffit, je le répète, juste de bien s'expliquer. De toute façon, ils reposent les questions du formulaire oralement au guichet afin de les traduire sur une autre feuille en chinois !
Pour notre cas nous sommes deux français, nous effectuons un voyage de 5 mois entre la France et la Thaïlande en passant par le transsibérien, le tout en bus et en train. Ils nous ont demandé nos billets de train pour sortir de la Mongolie mais nous avons expliqué que nous n'avions aucune réservation, ni billet de train ou bus car nous ne savions pas encore quel moyen de transport emprunter entre le bus et le train. Au niveau des jours, nous avons fait une demande pour un visa de 45 jours. Au guichet, ils nous ont demandé pourquoi pas 30 jours et nous avons expliqué que nous comptions traverser la Chine, aller à Xian, Chengdu, Kunming et que cela nous prendrait plus de 30 jours et au final nous avons obtenu un visa de 60 jours.
Pour ceux qui ont billets et réservations c'est encore plus simple.
Pour les questions du formulaires, si mes souvenirs sont bons, parmi les questions les plus précises il y avait : nom, adresse et téléphone de nos employeurs en France, noms et profession des "personnes qui nous sont proches" (nous avons rempli ce qui concernait nos parents), nom, adresse et téléphone de l'endroit où nous logeons à Oulan-Bator, ah oui et pensez-bien à précisez si vous souffrez de graves problèmes psychologiques tels que la schizophrénie ! ^^
Pensez à avoir une adresse et un numéro de téléphone en Chine à donner, n'importe quelle Guest House trouvée sur le net suffira. Evitez également d'indiquer que vous êtes journaliste ou que vous travaillez dans un domaine tel que la vidéo ou alors précisez le différemment, car il y a 4 ans j'ai obtenu un visa beaucoup plus courts que celui de mes amis, alors que nous avons fait la demande tous ensemble, mais à l'Ambassade (c'était à Paris) ils ont tiqué sur ma profession et m'ont demandé de venir récupérer mon visa 15 jours plus tard.
C'est trente dollars sous quatre jours ouvrables et l'ambassade n'ouvre ses portes que le lundi, mercredi et vendredi de 9h30 à 12h.
Donc une demande déposée le lundi permet de récupérer son visa le lundi suivant.
Pour une demande plus rapide, c'est plus cher mais je ne connais pas les tarifs.
Attention, le paiement ne peut se faire qu'en dollars et des dollars émis après 1997 !
La banque juste en face de l'ambassade semble au courant, mais vérifiez quand même, on a eu le coup sans être prévenus, mais vu que tout c'était bien passé il fallait au moins ça ^^
Par contre je dois tout de même préciser que nous avons fait nos visas cette hiver, le 06/02/2012, cependant des amis l'ont fait cet été et pas de souci. A noter que j'avais déjà été en Chine 4 ans plus tôt, mais je ne pense pas que cela a joué puisque la personne qui voyage avec moi n'y avait jamais mis les pieds.
De toute façon, la majeure partie des étrangers vivant à UB doivent régulièrement faire un aller-retour en Chine pour prolonger leur visa Mongole donc ils sont habitués à l'ambassade, il parait même que c'est en Mongolie qu'il est le plus simple d'avoir un visa chinois, ce que je veux bien croire.
Donc, en résumé, un grand sourire, de la patience, de bonnes explications dans un anglais très basique et des dollars émis après 1997.
ATTENTION !!!
ce n est, malheureusement, plus si facile que ca d obtenir son visa chinois depuis oulan bator...
Depuis debut avril 2012, ils exigent une lettre d invitation !! les resa d hotels et billet aller-retour ne suffisent plus !!
lettre d invitation d une agence de voyage (avec tampon office du tourisme de beijing ou autre) ou lettre d une personne resident en chine (avec photocopie passeport et cerficat de residence de cette personne)
affaire a suivre car les regles ont l'air d'evoluer regulierement..
Une petite precision additionnelle concernant la lettre d'invitation d'une personne en Chine : Cette piece est reellement obligatoire pour obtenir le visa chinois a Oulan-Bator. Beaucoup de gens (dont nous...) se sont faits refouler du consulat sans ce document. Si vous ne connaissez vraiment personne pour vous faire cette invitation, vous pouvez aller dans une agence un peu speciale d'Oulan Bator, "China Travel Service" ou quelque chose du genre. Pour la trouver, c'est tres facile : Elle est dans la meme rue que la boulangerie francaise (tlm sait ou elle se trouve maintenant), en venant du sud vous continuez a remonter la rue sur 200 metres et c'est un petit bureau dans un batiment a gauche. Le sesame vous coutera l'equivalent de 10 euros.
Voila ca nous avait beaucoup servi il y a 1 mois pour faire notre visa, en esperant que ca serve a d'autres maintenant !
Merci beaucoup au moins cela semble précis, je n'avais pas pour la lettre d'invitation, espérons que ce sera pareil quand je serais en Mongolie. au final sa l'air plus dure que la Russie, la Russie suffit juste de faire sa demande sur un site qui le fait à ta place et c'est bon
La sagesse, c’est d’avoir des rêves suffisamment grands pour ne pas les perdre de vue lorsqu’on
les poursuit
Bonjour,
je serai a Ulan Bator, dans un mois et demi et souheite faire faire monbisa chinois la bas,
apres m etre renseigne sur internet , je voulais savoir comment tu a fais, quel doc il faut exactement, etant donne que tu semble le dernier a etre passe la bas
merci d avance
cordialemet
julien ruesch
julienruesch13@gmail.com
http://julienrueschtdm.blogspot.fr
Salut Jul1.
à qui poses tu cette question? Au dernier dans la liste ou à moi?
c'est une vieille discutions et je ne suis pas très au fait des dernier détails d'obtention mais dans mon souvenir nous avions pas mal négocié pour certains papiers vue que l'on faisait notre voyage en train sans résa d’hôtel on ne rentrait dans aucunes cases. Pour l'invite il y a toujours un moyen de s’arranger.
Dans tous les cas , vas dès que possible à l'ambassade de chine chopper tout ce dont tu auras besoin pour faire ta demande ce sera déjà un bon début et si tu vas à la boulangerie française tu trouveras toujours quelqu'un pour te conseiller. Quand tu viens de la place Sukhbaatar, après l'ambassade de France, prend la petite ruelle à droite après le premier feu. Sinon sur google map c'est juste à cotés du venus café.
Si tu as des question plus détaillés, n’hésite pas
Bon voyage!!!
bonjour je relance le sujet, il y a t'il des news? je serais en aout à Ulan bator, est il toujours possible d'obtenir son visa chinois à UB? si oui ya t'il eu des news concernant les documents???
merci
terence
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