Chine du Nord-Est: Liaoning, Jilin, Heilongjiang en été 2006
by Shuku
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Ete 2006, seulement 3 semaines pour visiter ces trois régions, je recherche toutes informations me permettant de m'organiser au mieux. s'il est possible de se rendre en mongolie intérieure depuis le heilongjiang. Pourquoi pas au passage visiter Vladivostok. Ou simplement longer le fleuve amour.
Merci
Josiane
Bonjour,
Je connais déjà Changchun et Haerbin, mais je dois admettre que pousser jusqu'à Vladivotock me tenterait.... J'attends donc les contributions moi aussi !
Michel
Je connais déjà Changchun et Haerbin, mais je dois admettre que pousser jusqu'à Vladivotock me tenterait.... J'attends donc les contributions moi aussi !
Michel
J'ai deja écrit deux textes assez longs la dessus :
ds " Urumqi et Haerbin en Chine" le 14.01.06 ds "Nord Est de la Chine (Mandchourie, Mongolie intérieure.)" le 27.01.06
La proposition que j'ai faite, alors, de parler du Ningxia (que j'ai orthographiè Ninxia, mais c'était pas la peine de...copier !!) tient tjs, mais j'ai vraiment pas le temps maintenant....
B.
ds " Urumqi et Haerbin en Chine" le 14.01.06 ds "Nord Est de la Chine (Mandchourie, Mongolie intérieure.)" le 27.01.06
La proposition que j'ai faite, alors, de parler du Ningxia (que j'ai orthographiè Ninxia, mais c'était pas la peine de...copier !!) tient tjs, mais j'ai vraiment pas le temps maintenant....
B.
Bonjour,
Je connais déjà Changchun et Haerbin, mais je dois admettre que pousser jusqu'à Vladivotock me tenterait.... J'attends donc les contributions moi aussi !
Michel
Salut Tatra !
parles moi un peu de la region d'Harbin, j'héistes vraiment ...trés tenter mais si tu peux m'en dire plus ce serait chouette 😉. En réalité, j'hésites entre ce coin et l'Anhui (plus au sud evidement ...)
merci de tes infos .
Je connais déjà Changchun et Haerbin, mais je dois admettre que pousser jusqu'à Vladivotock me tenterait.... J'attends donc les contributions moi aussi !
Michel
Salut Tatra !
parles moi un peu de la region d'Harbin, j'héistes vraiment ...trés tenter mais si tu peux m'en dire plus ce serait chouette 😉. En réalité, j'hésites entre ce coin et l'Anhui (plus au sud evidement ...)
merci de tes infos .
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
bonjour, merci pour votre message;
mes contributions pour l'instant seraient assez maigres; Je suis passée à ABM.
Il semble que toutes les personnes ayant laissé des fiches soient allées aux mêmes endroits, aucune dans les 3 régions du nord-est. Dès que j'obtiens des
informations je vous les transmettraient.
A bientôt.
Hello !
Puisque tu n'as pas pu retrouver ces messages je t'en envoie une copie.....i Pas mal de gens les ont lus et quelques uns ont trouvé que Shenyang //Moukden etait plutot laide comme ville.
... Pas grave.
MANDCHOURIE (Liaoning, Jilin, Heilongjiang)
HAERBIN. Si Haerbin est surtout connu pour ses sculptures sur glace en Janvier, la ville est tout à fait agréable à visiter en été . Quand j’y suis passé il y a 3 ans, se tenait dans le centre une gde manifestation commercialo / culturelle : podiums, musique, spectacles, restaus de rue, ventes diverses, folklore . L’ensemble était très vivant et cette manifestation est paraît il reconduite chaque année. La bière coule à flot.
La grande originalité de Haerbin est son « quartier russe » - Daoliqu. Non seulement russe par son architecture et déco (nombreux édifices classés, préservés, bien signalés dont l ‘adorable Hôtel Madi’er), mais russes aussi : bars, restaus théâtre (l’ « oriental Moskow ! "- vente de souvenirs, ‘armes, jumelles, poupées gigognes…) et…beaucoup de touristes, certains venant de…Vladivostok même…
L’Eglise orthodoxe Ste Sophie est remarquable, mais l’intérieur est un peu défraichi .En dehors du quartier, d’autres églises orthodoxes, dont la jolie « Protection of the Holy Virgin », sur Anshun Rd.
Les parcs et espaces verts sont nombreux . Coté sud du fleuve le Parc Staline est quelconque, mais très fréquenté. Dans l’Ile, au Nord, le Taiyuandao Gongyuan est immense et on y trouve une foule d’attractions. On peut s’y rendre par exemple en téléphérique - belle traversée. Les rives du fleuves forment une « vraie » plage : barques ; baignades, mais aussi karting et équitation.. Le Ertong gongyuan n’est plus qu’un parc ordinaire. Le « Parc du Tigre de Sibérie », tant décrié est moins sinistre qu’on ne le dit.
Un complexe dit « Haerbin Amusement Park » est assez quelconque et les temples voisins ( Puzhao Si, pagode à 7 étages ) également…. Par contre dans le même secteur le Wen Miao abrite des collections ethno (minorités du Heilongjiang) remarquables, de présentation un peu confuse cependant.
On trouve encore à Haerbin des souvenirs des atrocités Japonaises (camp). N’y suis pas allé . Enfin ….ces notes sont à l’usage du voyageur/touriste. ! !! Mais il semble par ailleurs qu’ à Haerbin le climat social soit assez dur (comme ds tte la Mandchourie) et vous y trouverez aussi de la pauvreté.,
SHENYANG est une belle ville, pleine d'histoire (ex Moukden) .Monuments malheureusement très dispersés. Je parle ici uniquement de ce que j'ai vu et d'autres sites importants sont sans doute laissés de coté. Donglin, est un ensemble très "solide" .Le tombeau proprement dit est assez austère ; il est précédé d'une belle allée sacrée, avec animaux. Devant le tout un parc immense, agréable avec éléments traditionnels mais aussi modernes. Le Palais (Gugong), de plan très compliqué, présente une partie très originale, (= Mandchoue), avec ses pavillons aux différentes bannières et sa rotonde principale. Le tout fortement...reconstitué. Il y a du monde, sans que ce soit étouffant. On trouve les facéties habituelles : déguisements, photos... Beitai était en pleine restructuration. Dagoba important et quelques beaux bâtiments bien décorés (Fresque, statuaire) ; Une statue de Mao (avec cohorte d'ouvriers...), de style bien...classique, est à la nuit lieu de rendez vous pour danses, musique, jeux...C'est tres sympa ; Dans ce quartier de la statue., l'Hôtel Liaoning Binguan, splendidement décoré, est qd même un peu vieillissant. Et on trouve non loin le Meishucheng, quartier de restaurants en plein air : coquillages et fruits de mer.
CHANGCHUN ( à part qqes parcs et reliquats de l'occupation Japonaise ) ne présente qu'une attraction, mais de taille :le Palais de l'Empereur " Fantoche" (Puppet) .Belle demeure, ‘ de visite passionnante, un peu fliquée. L'Hotel Yuefu est un bon hotel "standard" avec un bon restaurant. Série de petits restaus et échoppes de brochettes, sans le Sud ( Guilin Lu) .A coté du parc près de l'Hôtel, série de restaus, de toutes catégories.
JILIN Vaut bien qu'on s'y attarde un peu. Non pas tant pour le Musée des Météorites, un peu "tape à l'oeil" mais ou on peut voir des expos temporaires, que pour quelques jolies perspectives urbaines (vers le musée, le pont, les quais) et surtout pour le très classique Wen Miao et son quartier "typique" de bouquinistes' et libraires. On trouve toutes commodités vers la gare : restaurants de tte classes et un hôtel très accueillant , le Jiaotong Binguan.
QIQIHAER et ZHALONG . Qiqihaer est une ville assez difficile si on ne parle pas Chinois . Peu de Pinyin. Pas d' Anglais . Plans de ville uniquement en chinois. L' Hôtel Hubin est accueillant, mais peu habitué au tourisme étranger. L ' Hôtel voisin, Hecheng est sans doute intéressant, lui aussi. Au CITS, tout proche, vous trouverez un responsable anglophone, très amical. Un endroit très convivial, le Tianming jiaozi guan, près de la gare .Des raviolis, bien sur... Un individuel peut éprouver qqes difficultés à s'organiser une visite sérieuse de Zhalong .J'ai pu y passer quelques heures intéressantes, mais un peu frustrantes pour diverses raisons...
(si vous êtes passés par là, votre expérience m'intéresse )
MONGOLIE
BAOTOU ; est une ville sans grand intérêt, immense et éclatée en différents quartiers très éloignés les uns des autres. Ai le souvenir d'un transfert /galère en taxi de nuit, entre Baotou Ouest (gare) et Baotou Est (gare routière) . (si vous avez eu, vous aussi, des pbs, faites m'en part..) Un excellent restaurant, dans Baotou Est, est le Daqinghua jiaozi On n’ y parle guère que chinois, mais on est très attentionné. Ne se cantonne pas aux raviolis, au contraire ! Baotou est surtout un excellent point de départ pour de belles excursions dans la région. Personnellement j'ai vu le monastère lamaique de Wudanzhao, Ensemble interessant, vaste, diversifié, très décoré. Quelques "gardiens" assez...rudes. A coté petit complexe touristique (yourtes) .La bière y est bonne. L'accès est assez compliqué .Comptez une forte demi journée, voire la journée complète. En bus public puis service de taxi//:minibus. Fin du parcours assez jolie.
DONGSHENG , étape vers le Mausolée de Gengis Khan. La ville elle même n'a pas d'intérêt. Le Mausolée du Khan, perdu au milieu des steppes vaut par une architecture originale (le couronnement, d'un joli bleu) et des annexes dont certaines bizarres. Un énorme cairn, un "autel ", des rotondes, un musée…... Le complexe est en pleine extension, et on trouve désormais à l'écart un monument énorme et prétentieux .( un article du Monde, plutôt critique, sur ce sujet, fin 2004 ou début 2005. Si vous trouvez la référence exacte, faites m'en part....) En fait ce qui est impressionnant est surtout la ferveur populaire, autour des tombeaux. Atmosphère de temple ...ATTENTION !!! : il est assez compliqué de gagner ce site. S'y prendre tôt et en repartir tôt dans l'après midi : retour encore plus incertain que l'aller... HOHHOT. la Capitale :Ville plutôt plaisante avec des quartiers anciens restaurés ou...reconstitués (rues "historiques ", culturelles " etc....Quelques temples dont le joli Xiletu et le Dazhao, trop restauré . Un musée éclectique, qui plait aux enfants (il y a même des dinosaures !). Une Mosquée très biscornue d'un abord moyennement facile...... D'excellentes échoppes Hui.
NINGXIA
ZHONGWEI est une petite ville pas stressée, plutôt agréable à parcourir à pied. La curiosité de la ville (outre une tour du tambour assez quelconque) est le Temple Gao Miao . .Difficile d’imaginer plus biscornu… L’habituelle représentation des supplices de l’enfer est ici particulièrement réaliste : figures animées et…sonores. . Ensemble intéressant cependant… Le Xingxiang Binguan semble en fait formé de deux hôtels presque mitoyens et plus ou moins concurrents Celui de derrière ou j’ai logé est d’un excellent rapport qualité prix. Celui de devant renferme un bon restau. Il y a d’autres restaus en ville, Qqes tables en plein air (raviolis) et une rue « commerçante » toute neuve (:déco kitsch, chic et prétentieuse .)
Peu de tourisme Européen. On parle peu l’Anglais.
Shapotou est une zone de loisirs établie dans une grande dune à une heure de route de Zhongwei., On y trouve chameaux, bateaux, téléphèriques, etc . L’ensemble n’est pas désagréable, mais ce n’est pas le désert vierge ( !)…. Une pension : Shapo Shangzhuan est très agréable, et on y mange bien. Pour aller à Shapotou :Bus. Très fréquent .Une heure de trajet. Et il y a aussi…un train qui arrive en pleine dune !!!
YINCHUAN Grande vile moderne et ou quelques monuments ou quartiers (pas très importants) ont été bien restaurés : ville agréable. Le plus passionnant à visiter est le musée (Xixia sheng bowuguan) presque entièrement consacré à la célèbre et étrange dynastie Xixia.). Très original..
Le Quartier Hui et sa mosquée : interessant . Une pagode vers le Nord, Beita, d’interêt moyen. . Quelques portes .
Il y a beaucoup d’’Hotels .J’ai logé au Ning Feng, au croisement minzu nanjie X jiefang xijie. Sa, ns surprise. Nombreux restaus : Restau musulman dans cette même rue Jiefang (Yingbinlou Qingzhen Fanzhuang ;…. Nouilles, pâtes, wontan dans le quartier Hui, joliment restauré ….. Petit restau japonais (sushi) sur gulou jie. Etc…
BSP et CITS/CTS sont « déguerpis » sur Beijing Lu, au Nord de la ville. La Gare ferroviaire est très loin, à 8 km ds la « ville n, ouvelle », Xin Cheng..
Peu de tourisme « occidental » . On parle peu Anglais à Yinchuan.
Xixia Wanglin . Tombeau des rois Xixia. Très belle série de monuments de terre, flanqués d’un musée . Très visité. Y aller en taxi. Peut etre combiné à une sortie sur Helan Shan (que je n’ai pas vu) qui doit etre passionnante .
108 Dagobas . Un site tout à fait extraordinaire sur la route de Zhongwei.. Pour y aller j’ai personnellement pris un bus sur Qingtongxia SHI , puis taxi aller retour vers le site ; Il y a aussi des bus sur Qingtongxia ZHENqui amènent plus près du site, mais sont moins fréquents. Le site est très beau. Un minuscule musée est interessant. En plus d’objets Xixia, il présente une interessante docu sur le boudhisme tibeto/mongol.
Puisque tu n'as pas pu retrouver ces messages je t'en envoie une copie.....i Pas mal de gens les ont lus et quelques uns ont trouvé que Shenyang //Moukden etait plutot laide comme ville.
... Pas grave.
MANDCHOURIE (Liaoning, Jilin, Heilongjiang)
HAERBIN. Si Haerbin est surtout connu pour ses sculptures sur glace en Janvier, la ville est tout à fait agréable à visiter en été . Quand j’y suis passé il y a 3 ans, se tenait dans le centre une gde manifestation commercialo / culturelle : podiums, musique, spectacles, restaus de rue, ventes diverses, folklore . L’ensemble était très vivant et cette manifestation est paraît il reconduite chaque année. La bière coule à flot.
La grande originalité de Haerbin est son « quartier russe » - Daoliqu. Non seulement russe par son architecture et déco (nombreux édifices classés, préservés, bien signalés dont l ‘adorable Hôtel Madi’er), mais russes aussi : bars, restaus théâtre (l’ « oriental Moskow ! "- vente de souvenirs, ‘armes, jumelles, poupées gigognes…) et…beaucoup de touristes, certains venant de…Vladivostok même…
L’Eglise orthodoxe Ste Sophie est remarquable, mais l’intérieur est un peu défraichi .En dehors du quartier, d’autres églises orthodoxes, dont la jolie « Protection of the Holy Virgin », sur Anshun Rd.
Les parcs et espaces verts sont nombreux . Coté sud du fleuve le Parc Staline est quelconque, mais très fréquenté. Dans l’Ile, au Nord, le Taiyuandao Gongyuan est immense et on y trouve une foule d’attractions. On peut s’y rendre par exemple en téléphérique - belle traversée. Les rives du fleuves forment une « vraie » plage : barques ; baignades, mais aussi karting et équitation.. Le Ertong gongyuan n’est plus qu’un parc ordinaire. Le « Parc du Tigre de Sibérie », tant décrié est moins sinistre qu’on ne le dit.
Un complexe dit « Haerbin Amusement Park » est assez quelconque et les temples voisins ( Puzhao Si, pagode à 7 étages ) également…. Par contre dans le même secteur le Wen Miao abrite des collections ethno (minorités du Heilongjiang) remarquables, de présentation un peu confuse cependant.
On trouve encore à Haerbin des souvenirs des atrocités Japonaises (camp). N’y suis pas allé . Enfin ….ces notes sont à l’usage du voyageur/touriste. ! !! Mais il semble par ailleurs qu’ à Haerbin le climat social soit assez dur (comme ds tte la Mandchourie) et vous y trouverez aussi de la pauvreté.,
SHENYANG est une belle ville, pleine d'histoire (ex Moukden) .Monuments malheureusement très dispersés. Je parle ici uniquement de ce que j'ai vu et d'autres sites importants sont sans doute laissés de coté. Donglin, est un ensemble très "solide" .Le tombeau proprement dit est assez austère ; il est précédé d'une belle allée sacrée, avec animaux. Devant le tout un parc immense, agréable avec éléments traditionnels mais aussi modernes. Le Palais (Gugong), de plan très compliqué, présente une partie très originale, (= Mandchoue), avec ses pavillons aux différentes bannières et sa rotonde principale. Le tout fortement...reconstitué. Il y a du monde, sans que ce soit étouffant. On trouve les facéties habituelles : déguisements, photos... Beitai était en pleine restructuration. Dagoba important et quelques beaux bâtiments bien décorés (Fresque, statuaire) ; Une statue de Mao (avec cohorte d'ouvriers...), de style bien...classique, est à la nuit lieu de rendez vous pour danses, musique, jeux...C'est tres sympa ; Dans ce quartier de la statue., l'Hôtel Liaoning Binguan, splendidement décoré, est qd même un peu vieillissant. Et on trouve non loin le Meishucheng, quartier de restaurants en plein air : coquillages et fruits de mer.
CHANGCHUN ( à part qqes parcs et reliquats de l'occupation Japonaise ) ne présente qu'une attraction, mais de taille :le Palais de l'Empereur " Fantoche" (Puppet) .Belle demeure, ‘ de visite passionnante, un peu fliquée. L'Hotel Yuefu est un bon hotel "standard" avec un bon restaurant. Série de petits restaus et échoppes de brochettes, sans le Sud ( Guilin Lu) .A coté du parc près de l'Hôtel, série de restaus, de toutes catégories.
JILIN Vaut bien qu'on s'y attarde un peu. Non pas tant pour le Musée des Météorites, un peu "tape à l'oeil" mais ou on peut voir des expos temporaires, que pour quelques jolies perspectives urbaines (vers le musée, le pont, les quais) et surtout pour le très classique Wen Miao et son quartier "typique" de bouquinistes' et libraires. On trouve toutes commodités vers la gare : restaurants de tte classes et un hôtel très accueillant , le Jiaotong Binguan.
QIQIHAER et ZHALONG . Qiqihaer est une ville assez difficile si on ne parle pas Chinois . Peu de Pinyin. Pas d' Anglais . Plans de ville uniquement en chinois. L' Hôtel Hubin est accueillant, mais peu habitué au tourisme étranger. L ' Hôtel voisin, Hecheng est sans doute intéressant, lui aussi. Au CITS, tout proche, vous trouverez un responsable anglophone, très amical. Un endroit très convivial, le Tianming jiaozi guan, près de la gare .Des raviolis, bien sur... Un individuel peut éprouver qqes difficultés à s'organiser une visite sérieuse de Zhalong .J'ai pu y passer quelques heures intéressantes, mais un peu frustrantes pour diverses raisons...
(si vous êtes passés par là, votre expérience m'intéresse )
MONGOLIE
BAOTOU ; est une ville sans grand intérêt, immense et éclatée en différents quartiers très éloignés les uns des autres. Ai le souvenir d'un transfert /galère en taxi de nuit, entre Baotou Ouest (gare) et Baotou Est (gare routière) . (si vous avez eu, vous aussi, des pbs, faites m'en part..) Un excellent restaurant, dans Baotou Est, est le Daqinghua jiaozi On n’ y parle guère que chinois, mais on est très attentionné. Ne se cantonne pas aux raviolis, au contraire ! Baotou est surtout un excellent point de départ pour de belles excursions dans la région. Personnellement j'ai vu le monastère lamaique de Wudanzhao, Ensemble interessant, vaste, diversifié, très décoré. Quelques "gardiens" assez...rudes. A coté petit complexe touristique (yourtes) .La bière y est bonne. L'accès est assez compliqué .Comptez une forte demi journée, voire la journée complète. En bus public puis service de taxi//:minibus. Fin du parcours assez jolie.
DONGSHENG , étape vers le Mausolée de Gengis Khan. La ville elle même n'a pas d'intérêt. Le Mausolée du Khan, perdu au milieu des steppes vaut par une architecture originale (le couronnement, d'un joli bleu) et des annexes dont certaines bizarres. Un énorme cairn, un "autel ", des rotondes, un musée…... Le complexe est en pleine extension, et on trouve désormais à l'écart un monument énorme et prétentieux .( un article du Monde, plutôt critique, sur ce sujet, fin 2004 ou début 2005. Si vous trouvez la référence exacte, faites m'en part....) En fait ce qui est impressionnant est surtout la ferveur populaire, autour des tombeaux. Atmosphère de temple ...ATTENTION !!! : il est assez compliqué de gagner ce site. S'y prendre tôt et en repartir tôt dans l'après midi : retour encore plus incertain que l'aller... HOHHOT. la Capitale :Ville plutôt plaisante avec des quartiers anciens restaurés ou...reconstitués (rues "historiques ", culturelles " etc....Quelques temples dont le joli Xiletu et le Dazhao, trop restauré . Un musée éclectique, qui plait aux enfants (il y a même des dinosaures !). Une Mosquée très biscornue d'un abord moyennement facile...... D'excellentes échoppes Hui.
NINGXIA
ZHONGWEI est une petite ville pas stressée, plutôt agréable à parcourir à pied. La curiosité de la ville (outre une tour du tambour assez quelconque) est le Temple Gao Miao . .Difficile d’imaginer plus biscornu… L’habituelle représentation des supplices de l’enfer est ici particulièrement réaliste : figures animées et…sonores. . Ensemble intéressant cependant… Le Xingxiang Binguan semble en fait formé de deux hôtels presque mitoyens et plus ou moins concurrents Celui de derrière ou j’ai logé est d’un excellent rapport qualité prix. Celui de devant renferme un bon restau. Il y a d’autres restaus en ville, Qqes tables en plein air (raviolis) et une rue « commerçante » toute neuve (:déco kitsch, chic et prétentieuse .)
Peu de tourisme Européen. On parle peu l’Anglais.
Shapotou est une zone de loisirs établie dans une grande dune à une heure de route de Zhongwei., On y trouve chameaux, bateaux, téléphèriques, etc . L’ensemble n’est pas désagréable, mais ce n’est pas le désert vierge ( !)…. Une pension : Shapo Shangzhuan est très agréable, et on y mange bien. Pour aller à Shapotou :Bus. Très fréquent .Une heure de trajet. Et il y a aussi…un train qui arrive en pleine dune !!!
YINCHUAN Grande vile moderne et ou quelques monuments ou quartiers (pas très importants) ont été bien restaurés : ville agréable. Le plus passionnant à visiter est le musée (Xixia sheng bowuguan) presque entièrement consacré à la célèbre et étrange dynastie Xixia.). Très original..
Le Quartier Hui et sa mosquée : interessant . Une pagode vers le Nord, Beita, d’interêt moyen. . Quelques portes .
Il y a beaucoup d’’Hotels .J’ai logé au Ning Feng, au croisement minzu nanjie X jiefang xijie. Sa, ns surprise. Nombreux restaus : Restau musulman dans cette même rue Jiefang (Yingbinlou Qingzhen Fanzhuang ;…. Nouilles, pâtes, wontan dans le quartier Hui, joliment restauré ….. Petit restau japonais (sushi) sur gulou jie. Etc…
BSP et CITS/CTS sont « déguerpis » sur Beijing Lu, au Nord de la ville. La Gare ferroviaire est très loin, à 8 km ds la « ville n, ouvelle », Xin Cheng..
Peu de tourisme « occidental » . On parle peu Anglais à Yinchuan.
Xixia Wanglin . Tombeau des rois Xixia. Très belle série de monuments de terre, flanqués d’un musée . Très visité. Y aller en taxi. Peut etre combiné à une sortie sur Helan Shan (que je n’ai pas vu) qui doit etre passionnante .
108 Dagobas . Un site tout à fait extraordinaire sur la route de Zhongwei.. Pour y aller j’ai personnellement pris un bus sur Qingtongxia SHI , puis taxi aller retour vers le site ; Il y a aussi des bus sur Qingtongxia ZHENqui amènent plus près du site, mais sont moins fréquents. Le site est très beau. Un minuscule musée est interessant. En plus d’objets Xixia, il présente une interessante docu sur le boudhisme tibeto/mongol.
voici l'adresse de mon blog qui raconte la Chine du Nord, avec plein de photos de Haerbin, Jilin, Shenyang,
http://www.benxi.canalblog.com
j'ai même fait un post spécial sur le Liaoning qui est une région pleine de surprises : http://benxi.canalblog.com/archives/2006/05/15/1881157.html
hésitez pas à venir me voir en Chine du Nord maï
j'ai même fait un post spécial sur le Liaoning qui est une région pleine de surprises : http://benxi.canalblog.com/archives/2006/05/15/1881157.html
hésitez pas à venir me voir en Chine du Nord maï
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Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
Hi,
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Hello,
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
Hi there.
I’m traveling solo to China in October '26, heading to these spots:
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Hello,
We’re flying to China in a few days for a four-week trip—our first time in this fascinating country! 🇨🇳
We’ll be sharing our adventure live on our travel journal, with photos and daily updates. Our itinerary, though classic, will let us discover the wonders of this vast country:
- Beijing (6 nights) - Zhangjiajie (5 nights) - Fenghuang (2 nights) - Longji (4 nights) - Yangshuo (5 nights) - Shanghai (4 nights)
We’re flying to China in a few days for a four-week trip—our first time in this fascinating country! 🇨🇳
We’ll be sharing our adventure live on our travel journal, with photos and daily updates. Our itinerary, though classic, will let us discover the wonders of this vast country:
- Beijing (6 nights) - Zhangjiajie (5 nights) - Fenghuang (2 nights) - Longji (4 nights) - Yangshuo (5 nights) - Shanghai (4 nights)
Hi there,
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung. Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
hi, does anyone have suggestions or contacts for a private local driver without going through a big travel agency for a multi-day trip in Yunnan?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Hi there,
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
Hi there,
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?
Hi there,
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
I'm planning a 19-day itinerary in Japan this summer.
For a first trip, Kyoto seems like a must. For the rest, I'm torn between:
- Matsumoto, Takayama, Kanazawa for 5 to 6 days
- Kyoto 4 days
- Nara 2 days
- Koyasan 1 day
- Hakone/Mount Fuji 2 to 3 days
- Tokyo 3 days
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Hi there!
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
Hi everyone who’s reading this!
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to you because I’m planning our next big trip (Japan is really tempting us for the autumn!) and I have to admit, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed.
My husband and I have always loved traveling, and at 75, we have no intention of stopping... But I find that everything’s getting so complicated. I try to be "modern" by booking online, but as soon as there’s a problem, we hit a wall.
A friend nearly missed her departure last year because of a visa issue that wasn’t explained properly on a website... and no one to call for help, just automated messages.
It makes me a little nervous to be alone in front of a screen so far away, especially since at our age, we like knowing there’s real support if our health takes a turn while we’re there.
Anyway, I’m tired of seeing my file passed from one person to another without ever having the same contact... Do you know of any small, trustworthy agencies or people who still work the "old-fashioned" way and really look after their clients? I love my independence, but I need a real face behind my project.
Thanks in advance for your advice, and I look forward to reading your replies, Catherine
I’m reaching out to you because I’m planning our next big trip (Japan is really tempting us for the autumn!) and I have to admit, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed.
My husband and I have always loved traveling, and at 75, we have no intention of stopping... But I find that everything’s getting so complicated. I try to be "modern" by booking online, but as soon as there’s a problem, we hit a wall.
A friend nearly missed her departure last year because of a visa issue that wasn’t explained properly on a website... and no one to call for help, just automated messages.
It makes me a little nervous to be alone in front of a screen so far away, especially since at our age, we like knowing there’s real support if our health takes a turn while we’re there.
Anyway, I’m tired of seeing my file passed from one person to another without ever having the same contact... Do you know of any small, trustworthy agencies or people who still work the "old-fashioned" way and really look after their clients? I love my independence, but I need a real face behind my project.
Thanks in advance for your advice, and I look forward to reading your replies, Catherine
Hi everyone,
I’m planning our trip to Japan from March 21 to April 11, 2026. We’re planning to travel by plane for long distances (Okinawa) and by train for the rest. I’d like to know if renting a car is easy and, most importantly, if driving with road signs written in Japanese isn’t too complicated. For trains, are there any tips to save money?
Thanks for your advice!
I’m planning our trip to Japan from March 21 to April 11, 2026. We’re planning to travel by plane for long distances (Okinawa) and by train for the rest. I’d like to know if renting a car is easy and, most importantly, if driving with road signs written in Japanese isn’t too complicated. For trains, are there any tips to save money?
Thanks for your advice!
hi everyone, and first of all, I wish you all a happy new year and good health!
This coming October or November, we’re planning our first trip to Japan. The only downside is we’ll only have two weeks off.
For this first visit, I’m thinking of sticking to the Kyoto and Osaka area… saving Tokyo for another trip. Do you think that’s a good choice for a first-time visit?
I’ve put together a little itinerary below to get some feedback from those in the know. I’m only counting the days we’re actually there, not travel days.
Day 1: Kyoto Ginkaku-ji – Philosopher’s Path with stops at a few shrines temples Eikan-dō and Nanzen-ji visit to the Samurai Ninja Museum in the late afternoon
Day 2: Kyoto Fushimi Inari (allow 4 hours for the hike through the park) visit to Sanjūsangen-dō temple Shōseien garden participate in a tea ceremony
Day 3: Kyoto Kiyomizu-dera temple stroll through the historic district up to Kennin-ji temple visit Kennin-ji temple Yasaka-jinja shrine and Gion district in the late afternoon return to the hotel via Pontochō Street
Day 4: Kyoto visit Kinkaku-ji and Nijō Castle visit the Imperial Palace gardens end the day in the shopping streets (Shibkyogoku and Teramachi, among others)
Day 5: Kyoto Arashiyama area Togetsukyo Bridge, walk along the river, visit the Bamboo Forest explore the area up to Otagi Nenbutsu-ji temple
Day 6: Kyoto hike from Kibune to Kurama
Day 7: Kyoto day trip to Nara (full day)
Day 8: stroll around Kyoto before heading to Osaka
Day 9: Osaka Katsuo-ji temple, then head to Minoh Falls and hike back via the Minoh Trail end the day in the Osaka Castle area
Day 10: Osaka Himeji Castle and an afternoon in Osaka
Day 11: Osaka Osaka and return to the airport in the late afternoon for the flight home
Do you think this itinerary is doable? Are some days too relaxed or too packed? I was thinking of adding a trip to Lake Biwa and Uji, but in that case, I’d have to cut some things. Are those places worth dropping some of the planned spots? And if so, which ones would you recommend cutting or shortening?
Thanks in advance—I’m all ears for both positive and negative feedback! stephane
This coming October or November, we’re planning our first trip to Japan. The only downside is we’ll only have two weeks off.
For this first visit, I’m thinking of sticking to the Kyoto and Osaka area… saving Tokyo for another trip. Do you think that’s a good choice for a first-time visit?
I’ve put together a little itinerary below to get some feedback from those in the know. I’m only counting the days we’re actually there, not travel days.
Day 1: Kyoto Ginkaku-ji – Philosopher’s Path with stops at a few shrines temples Eikan-dō and Nanzen-ji visit to the Samurai Ninja Museum in the late afternoon
Day 2: Kyoto Fushimi Inari (allow 4 hours for the hike through the park) visit to Sanjūsangen-dō temple Shōseien garden participate in a tea ceremony
Day 3: Kyoto Kiyomizu-dera temple stroll through the historic district up to Kennin-ji temple visit Kennin-ji temple Yasaka-jinja shrine and Gion district in the late afternoon return to the hotel via Pontochō Street
Day 4: Kyoto visit Kinkaku-ji and Nijō Castle visit the Imperial Palace gardens end the day in the shopping streets (Shibkyogoku and Teramachi, among others)
Day 5: Kyoto Arashiyama area Togetsukyo Bridge, walk along the river, visit the Bamboo Forest explore the area up to Otagi Nenbutsu-ji temple
Day 6: Kyoto hike from Kibune to Kurama
Day 7: Kyoto day trip to Nara (full day)
Day 8: stroll around Kyoto before heading to Osaka
Day 9: Osaka Katsuo-ji temple, then head to Minoh Falls and hike back via the Minoh Trail end the day in the Osaka Castle area
Day 10: Osaka Himeji Castle and an afternoon in Osaka
Day 11: Osaka Osaka and return to the airport in the late afternoon for the flight home
Do you think this itinerary is doable? Are some days too relaxed or too packed? I was thinking of adding a trip to Lake Biwa and Uji, but in that case, I’d have to cut some things. Are those places worth dropping some of the planned spots? And if so, which ones would you recommend cutting or shortening?
Thanks in advance—I’m all ears for both positive and negative feedback! stephane







