Nine
Chine, Vietnam ou Thaïlande?
by Nine05
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
J'aimerais que les personnes qui ont visité la Chine, le Vietnam et la Thaïlande me disent quels pays ils ont préférés.
Nine
Nine
Bonjour Nine
le choix est bien difficile, chacun de ces pays ayant leurs attraits propres. Il faudrait savoir ce que tu recherches, architecture, contact avec les autochtones, paysages, etc.
Pour moi, il est très difficile de choisir entre le Vietnam et la Thaïlande, concernant le contact avec la population, très bon car ces deux pays sont très ouverts, souriants et accueuillants. Pour la Chine, c'est très différents, le Chinois étant beaucoup plus secret et renfermé. Moi, je classerai ex-aequo le Vietnam et la Thailande et ensuite la Chine.
Un autre pays asiatique très beau : la Birmanie.
Question ma foi beaucoup trop large !!!
D'autant plus que vu la taille de la Chine il est difficile de faire des généralités sur ce pays !!
Tu devrais orienter un peu plus ta question genre dans quel pays troue-t-on les meilleurs plages, dans quel pays la nourriture est la plus variées, etc.....ce ne sont que des exemples mais il faut orienter ta question sans quoi le post risque d'être bien trop large !!!
Voila, ce n'est qu'un conseil ...
Au fait, tu demandes car tu dois y travailler, passer les vacances, etc...?
D'autant plus que vu la taille de la Chine il est difficile de faire des généralités sur ce pays !!
Tu devrais orienter un peu plus ta question genre dans quel pays troue-t-on les meilleurs plages, dans quel pays la nourriture est la plus variées, etc.....ce ne sont que des exemples mais il faut orienter ta question sans quoi le post risque d'être bien trop large !!!
Voila, ce n'est qu'un conseil ...
Au fait, tu demandes car tu dois y travailler, passer les vacances, etc...?
Merci pour les réponses. J'ai visité le Vietnam et la Thaïlande en voyage organisé et j'ai préféré le Vietnam.
Mon conjoint pars pour la Chine et j'hésite à partir avec lui. Il veut faire la route de la soie entre autres.
Il va dans la région d'Urumqi et ayant visité des pays arabes je trouve que cette région ressemble à ce que j'ai vu dans les pays arabes.
Je suis plus attirée par les petites villes et villages que par les grandes villes.
Il ira à Kashgar, Beijing, Turpan, Dunhuang, Jiayuguan, Lanzhou, Xian entre autres.
Je veux voir des endroits différents de ce que j'ai déjà vu.
Nine
Bonjour,
Si j'avais à choisir entre le Myanmar (Birmanie) et la Chine je n'hésiterais pas. J'irais au Myanmar.
Nine
Si j'avais à choisir entre le Myanmar (Birmanie) et la Chine je n'hésiterais pas. J'irais au Myanmar.
Nine
Bonjour, c'est très difficile de répondre à ta question. Tout dépend ce que tu cherches.
Pour le Vietnam, j'ai un super souvenir du Nord, entre Sapa et Dien Bien Phu, dans une vieille jeep russe. Mais c'était en février et il faisait vraiment froid. On avait des petites chaufrettes entre les pieds au moment des repas. Des paysages inoubliables.
Pour la Chine, c'était il y a 1 an, et le sud laisse un souvenir impérissable. On a adoré la région de Yangshuo, sculptée de terrasses vers l'épine dorsale du dragon. Ce qui est sympa, c'est de partir en rando quelques jours a travers les villages, et les habitants sont vraiment accueillants. Les pics de calcaires encadrant la rivière Lee donnent un paysage grandiose.
Quant à la Thaïlande, entre les randos autout de Chang Maï et les ïles paradisiaques du sud .........
Donc, pas de préference ...... il faut tout découvrir, mais à mon avis, en plusieurs fois.
Donc, pas de préference ...... il faut tout découvrir, mais à mon avis, en plusieurs fois.
Pascale.
merci hialle
Nine
Nine
Pour le chine et la thailande jette un oil sur mon blog...
Karolus
Karolus
Bonsoir,
Très intéressant ton blog. J'ai regardé ton récit et tes photos sur la Chine, c'est très bien.
Ma préférence est pour la région du Yunnan.
Nine
Très intéressant ton blog. J'ai regardé ton récit et tes photos sur la Chine, c'est très bien.
Ma préférence est pour la région du Yunnan.
Nine
De meme il y a moins de Hans... l'ambiance est moins lourde quoique le torisme de masse y fasse des ravages...
un bon choix.
un bon choix.
Meme reponse, trop vaste.
Mais on avait bien reve de faire la route que va faire ton mari il y a pas mal de temps.
Je ne pense pas que Urumqi ressemble aux pays arabes que tu as pu voir, pour la bonne raison que tu seras en Chine. Un peu comme si tu comparais le Ladakh, le dolpo et le Tibet (ceci dit je rechoisirais le Ladakh voire Dolpo que je ne connais pas).
Si tu as deja eu un petit apercu du Vietnam et de la Thailande en organisé, alors lance toi carrement en Chine, au moins tu seras certaines de voir autre chose. Tu prefereras peut-etre pas, mais ca sera clairement different.
Tu peux toujours aller lire mes recits sur mon site de voyage en Asie, on est parti 3 fois en Chine et une fois au Tibet, et au Vietnam, mais ca date de plus de 10 ans, donc vraiment pas sur que les recits seraient identiques aujourd'hui.
Tu peux toujours aller lire mes recits sur mon site de voyage en Asie, on est parti 3 fois en Chine et une fois au Tibet, et au Vietnam, mais ca date de plus de 10 ans, donc vraiment pas sur que les recits seraient identiques aujourd'hui.
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Namast Web - Après 8 ans d'absence en Asie, retour en famille à partir de 2006 (Thailande, Cambodge, Vietnam, Maroc, Jordanie, Chili, Bali, Inde)
http://www.namast.com/
Très intéressant ton récit. Tu y es allé dans le bon temps.
Nine
Nine
la question est lequel de ses pais vous preferez.
sans aucune hesitation le vietnam. oui tous les pais ont des richesses inepuisables et bla et bla et bla. mais dans mon coeur, si je regarde j i vois le vietnam; j i ai vecu des instants magiques, pleins de poesie. qui sont graves a jamais. j ai visiter que le nord, mais j i suis rester deux mois.
sans aucune hesitation le vietnam. oui tous les pais ont des richesses inepuisables et bla et bla et bla. mais dans mon coeur, si je regarde j i vois le vietnam; j i ai vecu des instants magiques, pleins de poesie. qui sont graves a jamais. j ai visiter que le nord, mais j i suis rester deux mois.
Bonjour,
Je ne connais pas la Thaïlande et ne peux en parler.
Quant à la Chine, j'y ai fait une petite incursion en 2002, en circuit organisé, au Yunnan et ensuite la croisière sur le Yang Tsé pour voir le barrage des 3 gorges en construction. Pour ce qui est du Yunnan, ce fut un voyage merveilleux : nous n'évions que 5, dont 4 étaient de la même famille (la mienne !) et la guide que nous avions nous a chouchoutés comme si nous étions de la sienne (de famille !) Elle parlait un français impeccable et nous avons donc pu très bien communiquer. Je crois que si elle nous a pris en sympathie c'est parce que, dans le premier soir, nous lui avons déclaré que nous désirions éviter de manger dans les hôtels ou les endroits pour touristes, mais préférer goûter la cuisine chinoise authentique. Elle était ravie car elle nous a avoué qu'elle aussi ne supportait pas la cuisine des hôtels et que, si elle y était obligée, elle ne mangeait pratiquement que du riz et du piment !
A partir de là, elle nous a arrêté dans des endroits improbables sur le circuit où nous mangions une cuisine savoureuse. J'étais intriquée par sa façon de faire : elle faisait arrêter le minibus, descendait et rentrait dans l'endroit qu'elle avait repéré, puis elle revenait et nous disait de descendre, ou alors, on repartait plus loin et le même manège recommençait... Je lui ai demandé comment elle faisait pour nous régaler à chaque fois, avec des mets simples, mais délicieux de fraîcheur et de saveur ? Elle me répondit : "Quand je vois un endroit où on pourrait manger, je rentre dans la cuisine, je regarde si elle est propre, s'il y a des provisions pour faire un repas convenable et, en plus, je leur dis comment accommoder tout ça !" Je dois dire que nous n'avons jamais été déçus !
Vous voyez, même dans les circuits organisés, il y a de bonnes surprises auxquelles on ne s'attend pas ! Il faut préciser que c'était une guide toute jeune, résidant à Kunming, au Yunnan, dont la famille est d'origine Miao. C'est pourquoi, je peux vous conseiller, si vous avez l'occasion d'aller au Yunnan, d'y aller sans crainte. Les paysages sont magnifiques et les Chinois des minorités d'une gentillesse sans faille. Et les costumes des minorités aussi sont de toutes beautés !
Si vous aimez les minorités, le Vietnam a les siennes, aux costumes tout aussi chamarrés que ceux des minorités de la Chine du Sud : d'ailleurs, beaucoup de minorités du Nord-Ouest du Vietnam sont originaires de Chine. Moi qui suis Eurasienne du Sud Vietnam, j'ai découvert le Nord en 2003 et, depuis, je n'ai qu'une hâte c'est d'y revenir. Ce que je ferais d'ailleurs en Avril prochain.
A part les minorités et les paysages somptueux du Nord, le Sud a aussi ses charmes, dont certains sur ce forum parlent beaucoup mieux que moi et c'est un régal de lire leurs posts ! Faites-le, vous ne serez pas déçue !
Mais donner des conseils sur le choix d'un pays ou d'un autre, c'est très difficile : la beauté réside dans les yeux de celui qui regarde.
Quel que soit votre choix, je vous souhaite : Bon voyage !
Je ne connais pas la Thaïlande et ne peux en parler.
Quant à la Chine, j'y ai fait une petite incursion en 2002, en circuit organisé, au Yunnan et ensuite la croisière sur le Yang Tsé pour voir le barrage des 3 gorges en construction. Pour ce qui est du Yunnan, ce fut un voyage merveilleux : nous n'évions que 5, dont 4 étaient de la même famille (la mienne !) et la guide que nous avions nous a chouchoutés comme si nous étions de la sienne (de famille !) Elle parlait un français impeccable et nous avons donc pu très bien communiquer. Je crois que si elle nous a pris en sympathie c'est parce que, dans le premier soir, nous lui avons déclaré que nous désirions éviter de manger dans les hôtels ou les endroits pour touristes, mais préférer goûter la cuisine chinoise authentique. Elle était ravie car elle nous a avoué qu'elle aussi ne supportait pas la cuisine des hôtels et que, si elle y était obligée, elle ne mangeait pratiquement que du riz et du piment !
A partir de là, elle nous a arrêté dans des endroits improbables sur le circuit où nous mangions une cuisine savoureuse. J'étais intriquée par sa façon de faire : elle faisait arrêter le minibus, descendait et rentrait dans l'endroit qu'elle avait repéré, puis elle revenait et nous disait de descendre, ou alors, on repartait plus loin et le même manège recommençait... Je lui ai demandé comment elle faisait pour nous régaler à chaque fois, avec des mets simples, mais délicieux de fraîcheur et de saveur ? Elle me répondit : "Quand je vois un endroit où on pourrait manger, je rentre dans la cuisine, je regarde si elle est propre, s'il y a des provisions pour faire un repas convenable et, en plus, je leur dis comment accommoder tout ça !" Je dois dire que nous n'avons jamais été déçus !
Vous voyez, même dans les circuits organisés, il y a de bonnes surprises auxquelles on ne s'attend pas ! Il faut préciser que c'était une guide toute jeune, résidant à Kunming, au Yunnan, dont la famille est d'origine Miao. C'est pourquoi, je peux vous conseiller, si vous avez l'occasion d'aller au Yunnan, d'y aller sans crainte. Les paysages sont magnifiques et les Chinois des minorités d'une gentillesse sans faille. Et les costumes des minorités aussi sont de toutes beautés !
Si vous aimez les minorités, le Vietnam a les siennes, aux costumes tout aussi chamarrés que ceux des minorités de la Chine du Sud : d'ailleurs, beaucoup de minorités du Nord-Ouest du Vietnam sont originaires de Chine. Moi qui suis Eurasienne du Sud Vietnam, j'ai découvert le Nord en 2003 et, depuis, je n'ai qu'une hâte c'est d'y revenir. Ce que je ferais d'ailleurs en Avril prochain.
A part les minorités et les paysages somptueux du Nord, le Sud a aussi ses charmes, dont certains sur ce forum parlent beaucoup mieux que moi et c'est un régal de lire leurs posts ! Faites-le, vous ne serez pas déçue !
Mais donner des conseils sur le choix d'un pays ou d'un autre, c'est très difficile : la beauté réside dans les yeux de celui qui regarde.
Quel que soit votre choix, je vous souhaite : Bon voyage !
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Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Bonjour,
En voyage en Thaïlande je suis à la recherche de jonc bouddhiste kumlai.
Quelqu’un saurait-il me guider pour en trouver?
À Bangkok j’ai visité quelques temple mais je n’en n’ai pas trouvé sur les magasins à proximité.
Si vous avez une idée je suis preneuse! Belle journée :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
Hi everyone,
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled. We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary. We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1** Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2** Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3** Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4** Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5** Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6** Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7** Sidemen
**Day 8** Sidemen
**Day 9** Sidemen
**Day 10** Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11** Gili Air
**Day 12** Gili Air
**Day 13** Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14** Ubud
**Day 15** Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family? Does it feel too packed or well-balanced? Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
Thanks so much for your tips and experiences!
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled. We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary. We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1** Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2** Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3** Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4** Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5** Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6** Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7** Sidemen
**Day 8** Sidemen
**Day 9** Sidemen
**Day 10** Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11** Gili Air
**Day 12** Gili Air
**Day 13** Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14** Ubud
**Day 15** Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family? Does it feel too packed or well-balanced? Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
Thanks so much for your tips and experiences!