Chine: Visa L(Tourisme) de PLUS de 30 jours APRÈS le 1er septembre 2013 depuis la France avec un passeport français
Bonjour,
Je voudrais savoir, DANS LES FAITS, depuis le 1er septembre 2013, depuis la France, ce qu'il est encore possible d'obtenir comme visa L, 60 jours, 90 jours. simple ou double entrée...
Je compte partir fin janvier 2014.
Ces 7 dernières années je suis allé 7 fois en Chine avec à chaque fois un visa de 90 jours, et même deux fois ces deux dernière années où il me semble que cela avait été officiellement réduit à 30 jours.
Je vais chaque année dans le Guizhou à l'affût de festivals ou cérémonies imprévus (Aux dates changeantes) dans des "coins perdus" aux ethnies colorées. C'est très contraignant d'envisager de sortir du pays, voire même seulement de demander une prolongation au poste de police "le plus proche" à Kaili, trop éloigné des lieux qui m'intéressent au risque de manquer une ou plusieurs cérémonies.
Comme je dois acheter le billet d'avion aller retour pour la Chine auparavant j'envisage de ne le prendre qu'avec une plage d'environ 80 jours (Au lieu de 90 d'habitude). Ceci afin d'ajuster éventuellement (On m'a dit que double entrée avec 30 jours chaque fois c'était possible) si l'on me dit au moment de la demande au guichet qu'un visa une entrée de 90 jours ce n'est pas possible, par une sortie de Chine continentale d'environ un mois (Cette période me semble de plus moins "active" pour les festivals) à Taïwan (Où j'essaierai de trouver un intérêt équivalent) où il n'y a pas besoin de visa pour moins de 90 jours.
Compte tenu de mon intérêt pour l'ethnologie un visa F (Nouvelle version) serait-il possible (On m'a dit qu'il fallait une invitation d'une entreprise d'état et que le C.I.T.S. n'en était pas une)?
Si c'est si contraignant, la fois suivante je préférerai peut-être Taïwan à la Chine continentale...
J'ai moi-même eu un VISA double-entrée 2 x 30 jours récemment (je suis en Chine depuis 4 jours). Pour les autres, je ne sais pas...mon père avait besoin d'un VISA simple entrée 30 jours et l'a obtenu aussi.
Journal de mes voyages (Chine, Islande, Asie, Bénin, Egypte, Maroc, Pérou, Ecosse...) : https://untourdumonde.fr
Bonsoir de Jiangcheng dans le sud Yunnan.
Sur cette question de la duree des visas en Chine, je peux juste te faire part de mon experience.
Courant septembre 2013, j ai obtenu un visa touristique 60 jours, du 3 octobre au 2 decembre, en passant par Action Visa, en fournissant un billet d avion aller retour correspondant a ces dates et une adresse pour mon premier jour en Chine.
Meme si je ne reponds pas a ton besoin de 80 jours, sache au moins que 60, c est possible.
J ai passe une semaine dans le Guizhou, et cela a ete passionnant.
Bonne chance pour ton visa.
Je me demande aussi si la loi ne s'applique pas plus strictement avec le temps qui passe depuis le 1er septembre
j ai obtenu un visa touristique 60 jours, du 3 octobre au 2 decembre, en passant par Action Visa, en fournissant un billet d avion aller retour correspondant a ces dates et une adresse pour mon premier jour en Chine.
Pour les 60 jours il me semble l'avoir lu ça .
Mais en double entrée avec 60 jours je pensais que c'était pour les gens déjà venus en Chine auparavant. Mais l'avancée en âge peut aussi aider quand on n'a plus vraiment le profil d'un "stagiaire" tel que veut l'éviter la nouvelle loi sur les visas
Meme si je ne reponds pas a ton besoin de 80 jours, sache au moins que 60, c est possible.
Mon "besoin" préférerait 90j mais 80j c'est pour avoir plus de "jeu" dans le choix d'une plage de temps si je dois sortir de Chine continentale
«Pourquoi voyageons-nous? Afin de rencontrer des êtres
qui ne s'imaginent pas nous connaître une fois pour toute » Max FRISCH
«Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages... mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux» Marcel PROUST
après 7 voyages en Chine, n'as-tu fait aucune connaissance (chinoise ou étrangère) qui pourrait te faire une lettre d'invitation ?
Parce qu'à ce moment là, tu pourrais tenter d'obtenir un visa Q2 ou S2 et dans ce cas-là, il sera plus simple d'obtenir 1 simple ou double entrée de 90j.
Thierry
On dit souvent "Fermez la porte, il fait froid dehors !" Mais une fois la porte fermée, il fait toujours aussi froid dehors.
je viens de faire mon visa à Hong Kong.
J'ai payé 150 € à l'aéroport mais je me suis aperçue qu'il y avait moins cher (faites le dans les mansion, en bas de nathan road).
Mon visa est valable 6 mois avec 2 entrées.
Pour les Français c'est 4 jours ouvrables !
Pour presque tous les autres pays (y compris de l'union européenne, c'est 1 ou 2 jours). Pourquoi ?
Bon, vous me direz, les Français peuvent entrer en Turquie sans visa (en transit) et pas les Anglais ou les italiens, ni les Américains ou les Espagnols…
Bref je pensais que tous les pays de l'UE étaient identiques mais pas du tout !
PS : 150 € c'est cher mais on ne m'a pas demandé de billet retour, ni d'assurance…
En gros, on m'a juste demandé mon argent !
Dans une agence de voyage en ville, il me fallait une assurance, mon plan de voyage, mon billet retour…
excuse moi, peux-tu donner plus de précisions sur ce que tu as fait, je ne suis pas certain d'avoir compris.
Est-ce un visa chinois que tu viens d'obtenir à l'aéroport de Hong-Kong ? Où précisément à l'aéroport ? par quel organisme ?
De quelle catégorie est ton visa ? S'agit-il d'un visa de touriste (L) ou d'un autre type ?
Tu parles de 6 mois, mais il s'agit de la durée de validité du visa. Quelle durée de séjour as-tu obtenue pour chacune de tes entrées ?
150 euros me paraît excessivement cher et en même temps, je suis très surpris qu'on puisse obtenir un visa L sans présenter d'assurance, de plan de voyage, de billet retour...
Merci beaucoup d'avance de tes éclaircissements
Bref je pensais que tous les pays de l'UE étaient identiques mais pas du tout !
Et non !!! 😛
Thierry
On dit souvent "Fermez la porte, il fait froid dehors !" Mais une fois la porte fermée, il fait toujours aussi froid dehors.
donc je reprends :
visa touristique
Durée 6 mois
2 entrées donc je peux sortir une fois de Chine (Hong Kong, Bali, etc) et revenir, ce que j'ai fait !
Quand on arrive à HK, entre le mac do et le starbucks coffee, il y a plein d'organismes qui délivrent des visas pour la Chine, d'autres qui vendent des billets de train ou de bus, parfois incluant le visa !
J'ai choisi une agence au hasard et j'ai demandé :
Je veux aller à Shenzen, je dois faire quoi ?
Donnez nous votre passeport et 1500 HKD (réglés par carte, environ 160 €).
Ensuite, on m'a dit que si j'avais été dans une agence en ville ou directement à l'ambassade de Chine, j'aurais payé bien moins cher ! Mais il m'aurait fallu présenter assurance, plan de voyage et billet retour…
Et quelle est la durée de séjour ? (c'est le nombre qui est indiqué dans la zone "Duration of each stay" juste devant "days after entry")
Juste une petite question supplémentaire, car ma compréhension a peut-être été faussée par ce que j'ai lu
Tu écris "je viens de faire mon visa à Hong Kong", (ce que j'avais - apparemment à tort - compris comme, il y a 1 ou 2 jours. Mais dans ce nouveau message, tu écris "2 entrées donc je peux sortir une fois de Chine (Hong Kong, Bali, etc) et revenir, ce que j'ai fait".
Donc, en réalité, depuis l'obtention de ton visa, tu as déjà séjourné en Chine (continentale) puis en es ressortie. Est-ce indiscret de savoir quand tu as effectivement demandé/obtenu ton visa à HK ?
Merci d'avance
Thierry
On dit souvent "Fermez la porte, il fait froid dehors !" Mais une fois la porte fermée, il fait toujours aussi froid dehors.
Je suis allée à Bali la semaine dernière donc je suis sortie de Chine puis rentrée à nouveau il y a 3 jours.
Si je sors de Chine, il me faut un nouveau visa !
Je suis arrivée en chine le 15 novembre mais ma précédente entrée datant du 29 novembre, je peux rester jusqu'au 29 décembre 2013.
Pour moi, c'est clair !
et donc aucun papier n'a été demandé pour l'obtenir
Salut cokine
tu es de nationalite francaise ou belge? (je ne suis pas de la police, mais je sais comme toi que c est plus complique pour les ressortissants francais)
combien de temps entre la demande et le jour ou tu as effectivement eu ton visa? est ce que c etait aussi 4 jours?
tu dis «bcp moins cher ds une agence de voyage en ville», as tu une idee du prix?
J'explicite brièvement mon problème. J'ai la nationalité algérienne et je réside en France (carte de 10 ans). Je compte me rendre en Chine pour un voyage…
Je pars à Shanghai début Octobre 2014 pour accompagner mon épouse dans un déplacement professionnel. Je compte demander un visa Tourisme. Le lieu de résidence…
Je prépare un tour du monde sur 2 ans (départ vers le 10 août 2014): voici mon itinéraire et mon blog. Je vais commencer par traverser la Russie (août 2014)…
Après maintes visites de site dédiés à la question, je m'y perds plus que je ne m'y retrouve... Quelqu'un ayant fait les démarches récemment pourrait-il me…
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But since our last trip in July 2015, they’ve introduced this eTA thing. Seems more like a way to make money than to actually secure Canada, if you ask me, but anyway, that’s not the point.
I applied for an eTA for myself, my wife, and our two kids. They all got approved within hours, but not me! I was asked to create a GC key and then an IRCC account, which I did. Normally, you get news within 72 hours, but since Monday, January 15th, nothing!
In the "message" section of the account, it says "explanation letter (required)" with a deadline of January 25th, but I can’t find any explanation anywhere—despite searching the Canadian government website and Google. No links, nothing!
I’ve emailed them but haven’t heard back yet. I’m thinking of calling the Canadian embassy in Paris tomorrow. Even though I’m not stressing yet, it’d be a bummer if everyone else got to go without me!
If anyone’s had this issue before or knows what this explanation letter is about, I’d love to hear more.
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So, to anyone who’s successfully gotten the authorization, could you tell me which address you used to get that "elusive" approval?...
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I know there are similar topics here and elsewhere, but they’re a few years old, and I need an up-to-date answer to make sure I don’t throw over 1000 € out the window. Thanks for your patience.
I’m planning a trip from France to Alberta/British Columbia, and I’m unsure about which bank card to use for the security deposit with the rental company (I’m thinking of going with AVIS).
I contacted Avis Canada, and they told me a credit card is absolutely required. I asked my bank for a credit card (a *real* credit card), but they only offered me a deferred debit card.
My question: For a rental with Avis Canada, is a Gold International Mastercard deferred debit card usable for the security deposit needed to finalize the rental? Is the "CREDIT" label enough? (Some cards say "CREDIT" and others say "CARTE DE CREDIT"—seems minor, but it’s actually a big deal in how the card works.)
I’ve seen conflicting info everywhere I look... My bank says it’s *usually* okay (the deferred debit card), while Avis Canada insists it *must* be a credit card, not debit—even when I mention the deferred debit card.
I know the whole credit card concept is already confusing, and on top of that, some sites say a deferred debit card counts as a credit card, while others say it doesn’t.
Thanks to anyone who can share a recent experience!
Have a great day
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The vehicle registration lists my company as the owner.
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I’m writing to ask for some info—I’ve heard that you **must** have travel insurance to land in Zanzibar.
What’s the process, and which insurance should I get?
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It was closed for a while.
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Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry.
However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht).
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We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
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Paper documents might not be accepted.
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Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received.
Thanks everyone.
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Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding?
Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival?
Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient?
Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
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No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
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I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month.
I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival?
How long do the formalities take on the spot?
Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
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Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay.
If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand,
do I need to submit a new TDAC application?
Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
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My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window.
The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days.
2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date.
If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period.
In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th.
The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?