Voila je suis étudiant et je commence dès a présent à préparer un semestre d'étude à l'étranger pour la rentrée de septembre 2010 (dans 1 an donc)
J'ai consulté la liste des universités partenaires de mon école (UTBM) et voici celles que j'ai retenus (critère géographique uniquement) dans l'odre de préférence:
- Helsinki (Finlande)
- Tampere (Finlande)
- Tallinn (Estonie)
- Linköping (Suède)
- Trollhättan (Suède)
L'objectif de ce semestre sera non seulement de voyager mais aussi de pratiquer l'anglais, je pourrais suivre l'intégralité des cours dans la langue de Shakespeare, mais pour ce qui de la communication en dehors de l'université j'ai un peu peur et j'aurais besoin de vos conseils.
Les suédois semble assez bilingues dans l'ensemble d'après les commentaires que j'ai pu lire, en revanche pour la Finlande les opinions diverges, et enfin pour l'Estonie je n'ai aucune idée ...
Bref j'aurais besoin de vos témoignages et avis sur la question afin d'ordonner mes choix du plus bilingue au moins bilingue (et ainsi favoriser les destinations qui faciliterons mon apprentissage de l'anglais)
Merci d'avance à tous ceux qui m'apporteront leurs conseils avisés
Les destinations favorisant votre apprentissage de l'anglais: Angleterre, Irlande. Ben oui!
Vous pensez vraiment vivre 6 mois dans un pays et ne pas apprendre le moins du monde la langue nationale? Le monde qui vient s'annonce bien triste et uniforme... 😕
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L'Angleterre et l'Irlande ne font pas partie de la liste que j'ai citée ...
Pour une raison simple, j'ai déjà fais des séjours dans ces 2 pays et j'ai détesté, donc je ne souhaite pas y retourner.
Bref s'il fallait apprendre la langue nationale à chaque fois qu'on part en voyages, on ne partirait pas beaucoup, et oui c'est bien l'anglais la langue "mondiale" ...
Je ne souhaite pas faire un affront au pays nordique en voulant parler anglais chez eux, mais voyager tout en ayant la possibilité de faire des rencontres et d'avoir des conversations enrichissante avec des locaux (et donc évidemment perfectionner mon anglais).
Je suis d'accord avec vous, mais vous ne partez pas 15 jours mais 6 mois! Et oui, je persiste et signe, je trouve que l'anglais ne devra, dans votre vie quotidienne, être qu'un début pour commencer à vivre là-bas. Mais vous devrez tout de même rapidement acquérir des notions, que ce soit de suédois ou de finnois. Vous imaginez la tête de vos camarades de classe ou des commerçants si au bout de six mois vous ne parlez toujours exclusivement qu'en anglais?
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j'aurais des cours de langue à disposition sur place (et nécessaire a mon cursus) je suis tout a fait ouvert pour prendre des cours de finnois. Mais soyons honnête, ce n'est pas une langue facile, et puis ce n'est pas en 6 mois que je pourrais tenir une conversation ...
Alors oui apprendre quelques notions pour se faire bien voir d'accord. Mais je cherche quand même une destination la plus anglophone possible parmi mes 5 choix !
Ah d'accord, dans ce cas ça vous facilitera la vie. Ce que je veux dire, c'est que tout anglophones que soient les gens, ils vous parleront spontanèment dans leur langue et que tout le monde ne le sera pas forcèment. Personne ne vous tiendra rigueur de ne pas pouvoir disserter longuement en suédois, mais il vous faudra apprendre la base de la vie quotidienne.
Sinon, la Suède me semble un bon choix, c'est sans doute le plus anglophone des trois pays.
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Je rejoins la personne qui vous a repondu. La Suede serait mieux, simplement parce que le suedois est plus facile que le finlandais.
Je vous conseille quand meme de vous mettre a la langue du pays dare dare.
Bonne journee
En Finlande comme en Suede, la langue anglaise est tres repandue. Je suis allee dans les deux pays et n'ai eu aucun probleme a communiquer en anglais, et ce, avec tout le monde.
Mais il y a une difference entre y aller pour 15 jours et y passer 6 mois.
Il est evident que tu devras apprendre et comprendre un minimum de la langue du pays, ne serais-ce que par courtoisie. J'ai des amis finlandais et des amis suedois et je peux te guarantir que le suedois est infiniment plus facile a apprendre que le finlandais.
Merci a ceux qui ont déja répondu (j'ai commencé a chercher comment prendre des cours de suedois ou de finlandais, les profs courrent pas les rues :p)
Juste un petit rapel, j'aimerais savoir quel pays parmis la suède et la finlande (l'estonie j'oubli) est le plus anglophone, et surtout si l'écart est grand, en effet meme si l'aprentissage des bases de la langue locale est primordiale, j'aimerais me sentir "en sécurité" en sachant que je peu me reposer sur l'anglais suivant les circonstances, et j'aimerais également utiliser ce voyage pour perfectionner mon anglais (pas forcément apprendre a parler un bel anglais, mais disons plutot me sentir vraiment a l'aise avec cette langue).
Bref question assez simple, lesquels des suedois ou des finlandais sont les plus anglophone, dans les grandes villes, en campagne etc etc etc ...
Mon expérience est que je connais un couple de suédois d'une conquantaine d'années et si madame parle bien anglais , monsieur bien qu'ingénieur a un anglais déplorable .Bien sur qu'on peut discuter avec lui en anglais, mais il ne faudrait pas compter sur le suédois moyen pour nous apprendre un anglais correct.
tout cela est étonnant, et on voit bien que chaque expérience est différente.
Je n'arrive pas a trouver 2 avis similaire :p. D'un coté je lis que les suedois sont presque tous bilingue de 7 a 77 ans, et d'un autre, j'ai ton témoiniage qui dit le contraire.
Pour la Finlande c'est l'inverse, sur les sites spécialisé que j'ai pu lire, j'ai plutot l'impression que le finlandais ne parle pas beaucoup anglais, alors que je trouve des avis sur des forums de gens qui n'ont eu aucun mal a trouver des anglophones en finlande.
Bien sur , si un français rencontre "mon suédois" et qu'il lui pose une question en anglais , il va comprendre et répondre mais il fait des fautes énormes en anglais , c'est plutôt moi qui lui corrige son anglais. Peut-être qu'on peut dire qu'il parle couramment anglais mais mal , en faisant plein de fautes et en confondant des mots ....Il y a aussi des français qui parlent mal le français ...........
Il est évident que pour apprendre convenablement l'anglais il faut partir dans un pays dont c'est la langue officiel. Mon soucis est de savoir dans lequel de ces pays j'aurais l'oportunité de parler le plus souvent anglais (et donc d'avoir des discutions et faire des rencontres) puisque meme en aprenant les bases de suedois ou de finlandais, je serais limité dans ces langues.
Mon niveau en anglais me permet de me débrouiller dans beaucoup de situation, par ce voyage je ne cherche pas forcément a m'améliorer, mais avoir l'occasion fréquente de pratiquer.
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