mon épouse et moi même envisageons un circuit d'une quinzaine de jours dans le sud marocains vers le mois de novembre, plutot avec un 4x4 et plutot sans TO puisque à vous lire cela semble faisable sans problèmes ...
Seulement je ne connais absolument rien au pays aussi pourriez vous me conseillez quelques itinéraires "basiques" ou quelques mots clès que je puisse utiliser le moteur de recherche parce que là toutes mes recherches n'aboutissent à rien car elles sont trop vagues.
Absolument faisable sans TO !
Procure toi une carte Michelin 742, et d'ici novembre on t'aura concocté un circuit inoubliable, surtout en 15 jours.
Tout est sur le forum, mais tellement parcellaire que le moteur de recherche moulinera
Maroc, pistes, erg chebbi, erg chigaga, merzouga, mhamid, ........... trop de mots clés !
En novembre tout est possible comme météo, le haut Atlas est imprévisible, il faudra des plans B et C, sud, désert (sic), Atlantique....
si c'est comme en 2008 ! oct - nov pluie et froid ! Pluie depuis fin septembre et neige fin octobre dans l'Atlas, pistes impraticables.
Mais le Maroc est vaste, il reste tout ce qui est au Sud de OUarzazate, et au sud est d'Agadir pour faire la fete en 4x4.
Hum, c'est mondial, on ne peut plus parier sur aucune saisons nul part ...
Disons que l'idée est de partir quelques temps en milieu d'automne, que j'aime bien le désert, que j'aime pas la foule et que j'ai le sentiment que le Maroc doit être plein d'endroit répondant à ces critères ...
Bonsoir, comme le dit Raoulx si tu fais le secteur Atlas etc... c'est vraiment instable de Septembre au printemps et encore... rien d'insurmontable mais il faut tout prévoir en neige, orages, pluie ! Je connais bien le secteur depuis Meknes vers Merzouga via Ifrane, Midelt, Errachidia, Erfoud ma belle famille y demeurant, ensuite vers Mhamid etc... le sable toujours le sable > Ourzazate > Agadir > tan tan c'est le... sable avec les excales sur les villes citées c'est superbe mais sans expérience du pays je ne sais pas... Avec mentalité "baroudeur" mais comme dans toute odyssée prévoir un minimum de plan"B" et d'éléments imprévisibles.
Petite question qui a son importance : envisages tu d'utiliser ton propre 4x4 donc venir par la route et le Ferry ou penses tu louer sur place ?
Je te soumets une variante par rapport aux classiques.....
Si tu viens par la route, prends le Ferry qui fait Almeria ->Nador (déjà, ça doit t'éviter environ 500 bornes en Espagne si tu viens plutôt de l'est de la France et que tu longes la Méditerrannée)
Après, l'objectif c'est de rejoindre (plus ou moins vite) Ouarzazate qui pourrait devenir ton QG d'où tu rayonneras comme bon te semble et en fonction de la météo.
En venant de nador, tu restes à l'est de l'Atlas tout le long en passant par :Guercif -> Midelt -> Errachidia -> Ouarzazate ou alors variante après Errachidia en rejoignant Ouarzazate par Merzouga.
Pour le retour, tu peux basculer de l'autre coté de l'Atlas ...> par le Tichka et tu tomberas sur marrakech> par la route de Demnate pour les cascades d'ouzoud et les villes impériales.
Si tu es plus raisonable, tu garderas le coté ouest de l'Atlas pour un prochain voyage
Ceci n'est que l'arête dorsale d'un parcours que tu pourras modifier à ta guise et même improviser tout au long de ton voyage. Tu pourras choisir de la piste si le coeur t'en dit ou revenir sur le bitume si le temps presse ou si ton dos rends les armes.
Il y a une autre solution, qui évite une énorme dépense de location de 4x4 !
C'est de louer une voiture ordinaire (économie : 80 à 100 euros par jour par rapport au 4x4), et dans les endroits qui s'y prètent, de se faire organiser, par l'hotel ou tu descend, une journée 4x4 avec un guide chauffeur (en moyenne 120 140 euros la voiture, carburant compris pour la journée), non seulement tu ne prends aucune responsabilité, mais le gars, il va l'amener dans des coins que toi, tu n'aurais jamais imaginé !
Non, non : j'ai rien oublié puisque je lui propose de faire la côte lors d'un autre voyage.
Perso, je trouve que les gens veulent trop en faire en un seul voyage, à l'image de ce que proposent les TO.
Et puis, tout ce qu'on dit....ce ne sont que des pistes....de réflexion !
Dominique
Ma femme et moi avons fait un circuit du 20 au 25 février avec marrakech expedition dans le sud marocain .Cet organisme marocain est dirigé par 2 frères YOUSSEF et OMAR .Ils proposent différents circuits en excellent et confortable 4x4 avec un rapport qualité/prix très compétitif .De plus à leur professionnalisme s'ajoute un accueil très chaleureux de leur part.
marrakechexpedition@gmail.com😉
Merci à tous de vos réponses, je vous avoue que je suis déstablisé par cette instabilité automnale que vous me révélez ... Je suis déjà allé trainer dans les déserts Egyptiens à cette époque et c'était tout bon ... 😕😕
Petite question qui a son importance : envisages tu d'utiliser ton propre 4x4 donc venir par la route et le Ferry ou penses tu louer sur place ?
Bonne question ! Au départ l'idée était d'en louer un sur place ... Si en étudiant la question il s'avérait plus interessant de descendre avec le mien (un Hilux Pick up, donc un vrai 4x4 pas un SUV) pourquoi pas ... Quel est votre avis la dessus ?
Que me conseilleriez vous comme iti pour mettre le max de chance coté météo avec moi ?
Pour mettre le maximum de chance avec toi coté météo, la seule solution que je vois.....c'est de téléphoner à Dieu ! parce que même Météo France, au dela de 5 minutes, ils ont du mal à prévoir....
D'un autre coté, faut pas faire de la parano non plus.
Si tu n'as pas d'attaches, tu pourras facilement composer en fonction des conditions. A cette époque, tu trouveras des hébergements disponibles sans avoir à réserver.
J'aime bien la formule proposée par raoulx. Tu loues une voiture de tourisme pour être indépendant et mobile dans de bonnes conditions budgétaires et tu t'offres quelques randonnées 4x4 que tu pourras même marchander sur place (rien que pour le plaisir).
J'aime bien la phrase d'Antoine de Maximus (Emission TV et film : "j'irais coucher chez vous") Quand rien n'est prévu, tout est possible.
En prenant quelques dispositions basiques et les bons renseignements, je crois que c'est bien moins dangereux que le hors piste dans les Alpes par risques d'avalanches....
Dominique
Procure toi une carte Michelin 742, et d'ici novembre on t'aura concocté un circuit inoubliable, surtout en 15 jours.
Tout est sur le forum, mais tellement parcellaire que le moteur de recherche moulinera
Maroc, pistes, erg chebbi, erg chigaga, merzouga, mhamid, ........... trop de mots clés ! .
En plus de la 742 un bouquin " guide" qui tienne la route pour choper des idées parce qu'apparement pas de carnet de voyage de circuit marocains sur VF 😕
en évitant le haut atlas...pour les soucis météo.. il est possible de rejoindre merzouga en descendant par fes puis le moyen atlas ... quelque pistes très sympa sur ce parcours.. arrivé à merzouga... la traversée est-ouest jusque tan-tan s'offre a vous...
Merci de ton avis.
Je pense que de toutes façons ce circuit ne soit repoussé faute d'arriver à conciler mes impératifs pro avec une période convenable coté climatique ... 😕
Hello everyone. After a dozen 4x4 trips to this country before COVID, I’m planning another departure at the end of 2026 and early 2027—around three weeks starting December 27th. Main goal: Merzouga to Chegaga, sand, sand, and more sand. Mostly camping and a few campgrounds here and there.
After 40 years of traveling in Morocco, I want to explore a new area by 4x4—the Western Moroccan Sahara, which I don’t know very well.
I have plenty of tracks and itineraries, but I’d love some info to help me decide on the best route:
Part 1:
I want to do the ASSA - SMARA crossing. Basically, I have two options: the first follows the Draa River and goes through M’SIED, and the second is much further south, passing through LABOUIRAT and heading straight to SMARA.
If you have any details on road conditions, driving restrictions, etc., I’d really appreciate it.
Part 2:
SMARA - BIR ANZERANE - DAKHLA – here, I also have two routes.
The first heads west from Smara toward Sidi Kathari.
The second goes east from SMARA and gets pretty close to the border at one point (about 10 km away).
Both routes meet up about 150 km later and are nearly identical from there to BIR ANZERANE and DAKHLA.
Hi,
For next summer’s vacation, I’m thinking of returning to the Sahara after visiting Tamanrasset and the Hoggar, which was stunning—not to mention the Tuareg hospitality.
I’d like to explore the sandy desert this time since the Hoggar was 80% rocky.
So, I’m wondering which city I should prioritize if I want to go there in late July–early August for the landscapes, extreme heat, and guides offering 4x4 and camel treks. Also, if there are any recommended guides for those in the know and a decent hotel.
I’m torn between Djanet, In Salah, Adrar, Ghardaïa, and Timimoun.
I’m of Algerian origin, so no visa or other formalities to worry about.
Thanks.
Hello, I’m preparing for a Tunisia-Algeria road trip.
I need to know if we can cross the Sahara to reach Djanet and Tamanrasset by road freely,
After that, obviously off-road in the desert with a guide.
What do the authorities say?
My trip: northern and southern Tunisia, a stroll in the desert.
Crossing the Tunisia-Algeria border via the Taleb Larbi customs.
I’ve already done this route through an agency, but this time we want to do it on our own.
Then heading down to Djanet for eight to fifteen days in the desert with Mouloud, a local guide.
Direction Tamanrasset: road and tracks, the mountains of the Assekrem, the Hermitage of Père de Foucauld.
Return via the Trans-Saharan Highway.
Visit to northern Algeria, then back by boat from Oran to Spain.
Dates: late December to mid-February.
We’ve got plenty of time.
If another crew is interested, we’re already two vehicles.
Looking forward to your replies.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Russia and Mongolia, starting from France.
Crossing the border at Poland/Belarus or Georgia/Russia—other borders seem either closed or complicated.
Tourist visas for 3 months with multiple entries.
Do you have any info on Russian companies that cover a 4x4 vehicle for 3 months, and what prices in rubles or euros you’ve paid?
Which bank did you use for expenses? (EuroMastercard and Visa cards no longer work.)
Regarding Russian SIM cards, a new system called "Gosuslugi" has been introduced. How long did it take you to get one, and what steps did you follow?
Hi there,
We’ll be traveling in January 2027 in a 4x4 with a rooftop tent with our three kids, from Johannesburg to Cape Town. We’ve already booked several campsites in national parks (Golden Gate / Mountain Zebra / Addo Elephant / Garden Route).
We still need to reserve the stretch between De Hoop Nature Reserve and Cape Town. Any suggestions?
We’d love to stay around Cape Town for 5 days to explore the wine route, the peninsula, and do some hikes in Table Mountain.
Any camping recommendations? Or, on the contrary, places to avoid?
Also, we have 2 nights left near Wilderness National Park / Knysna. Any recommendations?
Thanks so much for your help!
For my 60th birthday (yes, I’m jumping the gun a bit!), I’m starting to plan a self-drive trip to Tanzania (in June).
I also considered Zimbabwe but I’m worried it might be a bit chilly at night in June.
I’ve revisited an itinerary I’d thought about before, tweaking it since I’ll have more days to dedicate to this trip. Still no big northern classics for the same reasons as before (too expensive, too crowded, too many tour operators).
Here’s what I’ve got so far:
(Arrival/departure from Kilimanjaro Airport)
Night 1: Arusha
Night 2: Arusha
Night 3: Lake Manyara
Night 4: On the way to Iringa (any ideas???)
Night 5: Iringa
Nights 6–8: Ruaha NP
Nights 9–10: Mikumi NP
Night 11: Bagamoyo
Nights 12–15: Beach
Nights 16–17: Lushoto
Nights 18–19: Mkomazi NP
Night 20: Toward Marangu – eastern Kilimanjaro
Night 21: Western Kilimanjaro
End of trip
All your ideas, tweaks, info, and suggestions on this route are welcome!
I could move one beach night somewhere else if needed.
Also, if you have a car rental company to recommend or thoughts on the bandas rented in the parks, I’m all ears!
Finally, what are the roads like in Ruaha in June? The rental company I’m looking at seems to allow this park with a small 4x4. (Off-limits: Serengeti and Natron)
We’re planning a long-term trip starting in April with our 4x4, beginning in the USA.
We’re still looking for car insurance that covers Canada and the USA.
We’ve read quite a few forums, but we’re hoping for some help (from fellow travelers).
Hi,
we’re planning to visit a park again.
Could you point us toward the camps in Gonarezhou Park?
>We’re traveling completely self-sufficiently.
We love wildlife.
Thanks for any tips you can share!
JP
Hi there, we’ll be in Mozambique in early December 2026 and we’d like to travel from Vilanculos to Beira by car or bus to reach Beira airport. After that, we’re planning to visit Gorongosa National Park before flying back to France from Beira. From what we’ve heard, the road to Beira is tricky, especially at this time of year (start of the rainy season). Could anyone share their thoughts or suggest a solution? Thanks so much for your help!
Anne
Hi there,
I’m heading to Lesotho in a few days and I’m struggling to find info on the best route between Katse Dam and Sehlathebe National Park. There’s a fairly "direct" route from Thaba Tseka, but the roads seem rough, and we’re not exactly 4x4 pros. Anyone have any tips to share? Thanks!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Mozambique in October and are looking for either a 4x4 or 4x2 rental in Maputo, or a driver transfer option to reach:
- Ponta Do Ouro
- Tofo
- Vilankulos
The idea is to be self-sufficient for sightseeing and stops while still being able to access certain lodges or beaches that require a 4x2.
Do you have any contacts, addresses, or ideas to share?
Thanks in advance,
Hello,
We're hitting the road again in 2027 to discover new countries and cultures.
Could anyone give me some tips on driving from Ulaanbaatar to Lake Baikal and the route to take?
Thanks, and safe travels to those who are setting off!
We’re planning a 4x4 trip from Belgium to Central Asia, passing through Georgia, Russia, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan.
For these countries, our national insurance obviously doesn’t cover the vehicle, so we’ll need to get local insurance.
Will it be a problem if the vehicle is registered under person A and the national insurance is under person B? Both A and B will be in the vehicle, and both will be listed as drivers on the insurance.
When we get the local insurance, if we again list A and B as drivers, does the order matter? Could we get stuck at the border for this reason?
Hi,
For those who’ve driven on Iceland’s gravel roads in their own or a rented Duster, could you tell me what tires were fitted on the vehicle?
Were they All Terrain tires or more "standard" ones like all-season tires, for example?
Follow-up question: if they were "standard" tires, did that cause any issues on the gravel roads and rough terrain?
Thanks so much for any info you can share.
Best,
Marc
Hi there,
I'm planning a 4x4 road trip from Darwin to Broome with a rooftop tent in July 2026.
I'd like to know if I need to book overnight stops in advance or if I can just wing it and stop wherever I feel like it?
Some evenings, we'd like to stop and make use of campsite facilities (restaurant, shop, showers, toilets).
What do you recommend?
Do I need a permit?
My rough itinerary looks like this:
Darwin - Kakadu
Kakadu - Nitmiluk
Nitmiluk - Kununurra
Kununurra - Purnululu
Purnululu - El Questro
El Questro - Mt Elizabeth - Bell Gorge - Broome
I’m planning a trip to Iceland for next July-August, with a car and tent, and I’m wondering about booking campsites.
From your experience, is it necessary or even essential to book campsites in advance, or do you always manage to find a spot to pitch your tent?
We’ll also have the option to sleep in the car without pitching the tent.
Does that give us the flexibility to stay outside a campsite for a night here and there?
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip in the Middle Atlas, starting and ending in Fez and heading down to the south of Midelt, the Assoul Massif.... We’ll be traveling with two small 4x4s.
I’m looking for detailed maps of this region that include small roads and tracks.
Last year, we had a fantastic road trip in the Anti-Atlas and High Atlas using Erfahren maps, but unfortunately, they don’t cover the area we’re interested in this year.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Dominique
We’re planning a 13-day family road trip in Morocco this July, with six people in a Toyota Prado 4x4 (renting in Marrakech).
We’ll alternate between bivouacking and small hotels/riads depending on the stops.
Here’s the planned route (in this order):
Marrakech
→ Ouarzazate
→ Draa Valley
→ Zagora
→ Erg Chegaga
→ Lake Iriki
→ Foum Zguid
→ Tata
→ Tafraoute
→ Aït Mansour
→ Tiznit
→ Mirleft
→ Taroudant
→ Back to Marrakech
Our goal:
Atlas Mountains + desert + dunes + plateaus + valleys + a bit of coastline.
We’ll cover about 1,700 km in total.
We’re planning:
Bivouacking in the Chegaga/Iriki area
Flexible for the rest (booking the day before or same day)
Sand gear: traction plates, compressor, tow strap, roof rack
Questions:
Is the Zagora → Chegaga → Iriki → Foum Zguid crossing in July doable on our own (single vehicle, no guide)?
Are there any truly technical or risky sections between Chegaga and Iriki?
Does the overall itinerary seem manageable in 13 days without rushing?
Any suggestions for great bivouac spots or particularly interesting stops along this route?
The points on the route are provisional overnight stops. Some spots will include two nights in the same area.
We’re used to off-road driving, but not yet in the Moroccan desert.
Thanks in advance for your feedback and tips! 😊
Good evening
I could use some advice 🙂
Our trip to Namibia is planned for June/July 2026.
We’re struggling a bit with timing and choosing activities for the part of the trip between Sesriem and Brandberg.
Day 1: Sesriem to Mirabib
Day 2: Mirabib to Swakopmund – visit Swakopmund, overnight in Swakopmund
Day 3: Sandwich Harbour – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 4: Kayaking with the seals + the living dunes – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 5: Moon Landscape, Henties Bay + Cape Cross – overnight at White Lady Lodge in Brandberg
Does this itinerary seem realistic to you? Is Cape Cross really worth the trip? If I had to choose between Cape Cross and kayaking with the seals, which would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Hélix
My son and I are heading to Georgia this summer to explore the High Caucasus (Svaneti, Kazbek, and Tusheti regions). For this, we’re planning to rent a 4x4.
However, the rental agencies we’ve found prohibit driving on the tracks to Omalo (Tusheti) and/or Ushguli (Svaneti).
Do you know of any agencies in Tbilisi (local and reliable) that allow rented 4x4s to drive on these tracks? If so, which ones?
Hi everyone,
I’m starting to plan an itinerary for September 2027 focused on Zimbabwe and Zambia. I’d love to visit Gonarezhou National Park—I see there are two sectors: the Mwenezi Region in the south and the area around the Runde River in the north. Should I cover both sectors or just focus on the northern region?
For the parks along the Zambezi River, is it better to visit Mana Pools on the Zimbabwe side or Lower Zambezi on the Zambia side?
Thanks in advance for any tips on the parks in these two countries.
Have a great day, everyone.
We’re spending 18 days in New Zealand from 05/04 to 05/21, arriving in QUEENSTOWN and leaving from AUCKLAND.
Any ideas for a road trip that covers the highlights of both islands but only changes hotels every 3–4 nights?
Thanks.
For our trip to Georgia in July, I’d like to rent a 4x4 starting from Tbilisi.
Do you have any rental companies to recommend?
The traditional rentals like Hertz, Avis, etc. seem way overpriced compared to local companies—what do you think? Are they properly insured?
Has anyone here tried Geo Rent Car, Auto 4 Rental, or Sur Price?
Also, I’m looking for info on the condition of the Ushguli–Lentekhi track—is it passable?
Hi everyone,
A well-prepped 4x4, a travel plan across Africa in stages since I’ve got kids to see regularly and work to earn a living.
I’m leaving in November for about a month with the goal of reaching Senegal via Mauritania. I’d love to share this trip with someone who wants to discover Mauritania and a bit of Senegal... and also experience life on board a 4x4 in the desert or bush, sometimes sleeping in the vehicle or in hostels/small hotels for comfort. I want to share this rediscovery because two’s better than one!
Just traveling, exploring, and living! !
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;)
So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals?
Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries?
I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode?
If that happens, what should I do?
