Conseils d'itinéraire pour un voyage de quatre mois en Asie du Sud-Est?
by Pascalebruno
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Nous partons en novembre 09 pour 4 mois (et oui, la chance !), avec notre fils de 9 ans. Avons le projet de passer du temps en thailande, laos, Cambodge et Bali. Ne cherchons pas à tout visiter, mais à s'imprégner et pourquoi pas de rester + longtemps là où nous nous sentons bien et peut être de renoncer à un ou deux pays (par ex Laos ou Cambodge qui paraissent plus durs avec un enfant) . Avez vous des avis sur l'itinéraire optimisé ? Commencer ou finir par Bali ? Merci pour vos avis éclairés.
Pascale et Bruno
bonjour
tt depend des gouts; le nord du laos, tranquilement, peut etre bien avec un enfant:la campagne, les ballades, les differents peuples.
je suis resté 2 mois avec mes trois petits entre bali et flores komodo, on s est pas ennuyé,
bref moi je ferais2 mois thailande laos et 2 mois indonesie entre bali flores rinca lombok
voila!
Salut,
En 4 mois vous avez de la marge, donc finalement sur les endroits a visiter cela depend de vos gouts personnels et ca vous ne pouvez compter sur nous, un bon guide de l'asie du sud est vous sera utile pour optimiser vos choix.
Je vous conseille juste de commencer et finir par des endroits de transition qui soient doux et pas loins de vos points de départ et d'arrivée, comme ca vous aurez le temps de vous adapter au climat et a la gastronomie et nepas etre trop depaysé: Plusieurs endroits en thailande ainsi que bali ou la malaisie me semblent etre parfaits
Pensez a air asia pour ses vols pas chers et que vous pourrez utiliser entre bangkok et bali.
Ne ratez pas les autres pays a cote quis ont moins touches par le tourisme de masse comme la birmanie ou il est un peu plus difficile de circuler certes (apart l'avion), mais tellement plus authentique.
Votre enfant de neuf ans n'est pas encore un ado et donc meme si vous vous retrouvez au bout du monde en asie il sera votre meilleur atout pour s'integrer dans un endroit ou vous voulez passer plus de temps et surtout il n'aura pas le temps de s'ennuyer si d'autres enfants sont dans le coin.....plusieurs fois j'ai rencontre des voyageurs dans des coins perdus avec des bebes de quelques mois a peine!!! donc pas d'inquietude🙂
Bonvoyage
En 4 mois vous avez de la marge, donc finalement sur les endroits a visiter cela depend de vos gouts personnels et ca vous ne pouvez compter sur nous, un bon guide de l'asie du sud est vous sera utile pour optimiser vos choix.
Je vous conseille juste de commencer et finir par des endroits de transition qui soient doux et pas loins de vos points de départ et d'arrivée, comme ca vous aurez le temps de vous adapter au climat et a la gastronomie et nepas etre trop depaysé: Plusieurs endroits en thailande ainsi que bali ou la malaisie me semblent etre parfaits
Pensez a air asia pour ses vols pas chers et que vous pourrez utiliser entre bangkok et bali.
Ne ratez pas les autres pays a cote quis ont moins touches par le tourisme de masse comme la birmanie ou il est un peu plus difficile de circuler certes (apart l'avion), mais tellement plus authentique.
Votre enfant de neuf ans n'est pas encore un ado et donc meme si vous vous retrouvez au bout du monde en asie il sera votre meilleur atout pour s'integrer dans un endroit ou vous voulez passer plus de temps et surtout il n'aura pas le temps de s'ennuyer si d'autres enfants sont dans le coin.....plusieurs fois j'ai rencontre des voyageurs dans des coins perdus avec des bebes de quelques mois a peine!!! donc pas d'inquietude🙂
Bonvoyage
merci de ton avis. Nous pensons commencer par la Thailande, ensuite Laos, pour terminer en Indonésie. Moi qui suis une citadine un peu speedy, j'ai peur de m'ennuyer si je ne fais que les plages. J'ai compris qu'à Flores, on peut randonner, ce qui serait une bonne alternative. Y a t'il des parcours accessibles pour un enfant de 9 ans ? quelles sont les autres activités possibles quand on a le temps de rester sur ces iles ?
Et si c'était par la fin que tout commencait... A. De St Exupéry
bjr,
nous avions pensé à la Birmanie mais je crains que ce ne soit pas suffisamment sécurisé comme destination, c'est pourkoi nous l'avons laissé de côté alors que l'envie est là ? est ce une fausse idée ? nous ne pensions pas rester très longtemps en thailande pour aller vers le laos et séjourner + longtemps en indonésie. votre avis ?
Tt à fait d'accord pour sélectionner des lieux de transition autant à l'aller qu'au retour parce que dans les 2 cas, nous en aurons besoin.
A +
Et si c'était par la fin que tout commencait... A. De St Exupéry
Niveau securité et surete, la birmanie est ce qui se fait de mieux dans la region , surtout surtout en ce qui concerne la gentillesse extraordinaire de birmans dont je garde un souvenir magnifique.
Je crois quand meme que vous pouvez faire l'impasse sur la birmanie si vous visitez le laos qui garde dans quelques endroits le meme charme que la birmanie, vous pouvez faire comme suit :
Arriveé a bangkok, ville qui surprend par tout ce qu'elle peut vous offrir, le depaysement total avec un moindre effort et tous les standards occidentaux, pour faire aussi le shopping pour votre sejour pour pas cher (tongs , repulsif moustique , vetements legers...ect...ect) >> continuer vers le nord de la thailande en vous arretant aux endroits qui vous plaisent (cf guide) >>> passer au nord laos avec la possibilite de voir des minorites dans la montagne puis aller a luang prabang et vientiane qui sont plus des villages que des vraies villes avec une ambiance coloniale et de beaux paysages.
Apres vous avez le choix de continuer vers le sud du laos puis passer au cambodge ou revenir dans l'est de la thailande (ISAN = relativement plus civilise que le sud du laos) et continuer vers le cambodge pour au moins visiter angkor....retour a bangkok en passant par une des iles du groupe KO CHANG pour casser le rythme (a faire aussi si vous voulez avant le cambodge)
De retour a bangkok vous avez le choix de rallier l'indonesie (bali) directement depuis l'aeroport avec un aller retour sur air asia ou de continuer par le sud de la thailande (parcs nationaux, et iles) pour rejoindre la malaisie et kuala lumpur d'ou vous pourrez vous envoler vers bali
Bali que vous pourrez decouvrir a votre guise en louant une voiture
retour a bangkok pour finir le shopping de bali et depart au domicile
Ceci n'est qu'un itineraire parmis des millirrs d'autres, et puis surtout soyez flexible car vous aurez pleins de coups de coeurs qui vous inciteront a larguer les amarres un moment et faire l'impasse sur une partie du programme.
PS: Bali est la seule partie de ton itineraire qui risque de ne pas etre au sec durant la periode de ta visite
Bon voyage
Je crois quand meme que vous pouvez faire l'impasse sur la birmanie si vous visitez le laos qui garde dans quelques endroits le meme charme que la birmanie, vous pouvez faire comme suit :
Arriveé a bangkok, ville qui surprend par tout ce qu'elle peut vous offrir, le depaysement total avec un moindre effort et tous les standards occidentaux, pour faire aussi le shopping pour votre sejour pour pas cher (tongs , repulsif moustique , vetements legers...ect...ect) >> continuer vers le nord de la thailande en vous arretant aux endroits qui vous plaisent (cf guide) >>> passer au nord laos avec la possibilite de voir des minorites dans la montagne puis aller a luang prabang et vientiane qui sont plus des villages que des vraies villes avec une ambiance coloniale et de beaux paysages.
Apres vous avez le choix de continuer vers le sud du laos puis passer au cambodge ou revenir dans l'est de la thailande (ISAN = relativement plus civilise que le sud du laos) et continuer vers le cambodge pour au moins visiter angkor....retour a bangkok en passant par une des iles du groupe KO CHANG pour casser le rythme (a faire aussi si vous voulez avant le cambodge)
De retour a bangkok vous avez le choix de rallier l'indonesie (bali) directement depuis l'aeroport avec un aller retour sur air asia ou de continuer par le sud de la thailande (parcs nationaux, et iles) pour rejoindre la malaisie et kuala lumpur d'ou vous pourrez vous envoler vers bali
Bali que vous pourrez decouvrir a votre guise en louant une voiture
retour a bangkok pour finir le shopping de bali et depart au domicile
Ceci n'est qu'un itineraire parmis des millirrs d'autres, et puis surtout soyez flexible car vous aurez pleins de coups de coeurs qui vous inciteront a larguer les amarres un moment et faire l'impasse sur une partie du programme.
PS: Bali est la seule partie de ton itineraire qui risque de ne pas etre au sec durant la periode de ta visite
Bon voyage
A prendre en considération tous les avis donnés précédement mais il faudrait mieux finir par Bali car novembre n'est pas la bonne période pour cette île, saison des pluies oblige 😕 Commencez votre trip in Asia par la Thailande, c'est le plus simple et le plus facile pour s'habituer surtout avec un enfant de 9ans 😉 Bon voyage, ca c'est un voyage sympa 😎
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Bonjour.
Ne t'inquiète pas, en Indonésie comme en Thaïlande, il y a largement de quoi faire en plus des plages! Pour les trecks, je ne connais pas bien en Indonésie mais en Thaïlande, pas de soucis, les guides sont capables de s'adapter au rythme et au possibilites d'un enfant, tout comme ils s'adaptent au rythme des adultes qui peut etre tellement variable! En Indonesie, allez sur Sulawesi dans la montagne le lieu est magnifique et occupe par une ethnie d'orignine mysterieuse, des gens tres accueillants. Et puis java et Sumattra ne manquent pas de temples anciens passionnants. En Thailande, passez dans au moins un Parc National: treck, balade en elephant etc y font le plaisir des enfants comme de leurs parents. Je deconseille, par contre, les visite de "tribus" (qui, bien souvent, ne sont pas des tribus mais des gens d'une meme ethnie regroupes dans un village pour le tourisme!).
Un beau voyage en perspective.
Ne t'inquiète pas, en Indonésie comme en Thaïlande, il y a largement de quoi faire en plus des plages! Pour les trecks, je ne connais pas bien en Indonésie mais en Thaïlande, pas de soucis, les guides sont capables de s'adapter au rythme et au possibilites d'un enfant, tout comme ils s'adaptent au rythme des adultes qui peut etre tellement variable! En Indonesie, allez sur Sulawesi dans la montagne le lieu est magnifique et occupe par une ethnie d'orignine mysterieuse, des gens tres accueillants. Et puis java et Sumattra ne manquent pas de temples anciens passionnants. En Thailande, passez dans au moins un Parc National: treck, balade en elephant etc y font le plaisir des enfants comme de leurs parents. Je deconseille, par contre, les visite de "tribus" (qui, bien souvent, ne sont pas des tribus mais des gens d'une meme ethnie regroupes dans un village pour le tourisme!).
Un beau voyage en perspective.
Bonsoir à tous,
qu'est ce que c'est sympa de vous lire🙂, c'est la 1ère fois que nous utilisons ce site et c'est vraiment touchant de voir le temps que vous prenez à nous répondre, les précisions que vous n'hésitez pas à nous donner. J'ai l'impression de préparer ce voyage avec vous et c'est top.
Donc, nous avons un peu avancé avec votre aide. Oui, nous terminerons par Bali, météo oblige et commencerons par la Thailande, nous allons acheter un billet A/R France-Bangkok et allons irradier à partir de Bkk.
Nous laissons de côté la Birmanie, ce sera pour un autre trip. Non pas que nous n'en n'ayons pas envie mais complètement d'accord avec vous, il nous faut laisser du temps pour les coup de coeur ce, d'autant qu'avec notre fils, nous serons forcément moins itinérants.
Une questions sur les visas, savez vous si l'on peut avoir un visa sur place au Laos, Cambodge et Indonésie ou si nous sommes obligés de l'obtenir au départ de France, ce qui nous contraindra davantage au niveau des planning.
Encore, merci de vous réjouir avec nous de ce projet.
Et si c'était par la fin que tout commencait... A. De St Exupéry
Merci pr tous ces conseils qui sont de véritables pépites d'or au stade où nous en sommes (cf réponse faite à Matilde qui s'adresse aussi à tous ceux qui nous ont répondu.
une des iles du groupe KO CHANG pour casser le rythme (a faire aussi si vous voulez avant le cambodge) que veux tu dire par là et d'ailleurs où se trouve t'elle, je n'ai pas réussi à la localiser sur la carte que je possède mais je vais m'y atteler.
quels conseils pour trouver des guides ? doit on discuter le prix ?
où dormir à bkk à l'arrivée, vaut il mieux réserver au départ de France ou trouve t-on en improvisant avec fatigue, dépaysement + enft ?
A bientôt de te lire prochainement.
Et si c'était par la fin que tout commencait... A. De St Exupéry
Les visas des pays cites s'obtiennent a la frontiere (frais variables) et sont valables grosse modo pour 30 jours chaque! la thailande offre un visa gratuit de 30 jours a l'arrivee par avion et de 15 jours quand on arrive par voie terrestre
Koh chang comme toutes les iles de la region permet de se poser apres un morceau de route, on mange du poisson, on profite des plaisirs de la mer et du repos d'une belle plage, on recharge les batteries, et puis hop quelques jours apres on reprend la route bien en forme. (c'ets ce que je voulais dire 🙂).......des fois on peut trouver son bonheur et se reposer aussi en plein jungle ou dans un village de minorites en montagne, mais le mythe carte postal de l'ile tropicale est tres coriace😛
Je conseille toujours le lonely planet, puis de faire des recherches sur le forumvoyage pour les dernieres actualisations sur les regions qui vous plaisent (ne pas hesiter a poser d'autres questions unefois votre itineraire etabli ou encore une fois sur place quand vous hesitez)
Personnellement je ne reserve absolument rien en avance......mais je ne saurais donner ce conseil a tout le monde vu que je voyage a la routarde et les surprises ne me derangent pas. Pour te rassurer reserve les 2/3 premieres nuits pour l'arrivée sur place, le temps que tu vois venir le pays et puis apres tu verras selon le feeling et les infos des autres voyageurs par contre pour les periodes chargées (nouvel an) et les endroits prises (iles thailandaises) la reservation peut vous epargner des desagrements.
bon voyage
Koh chang comme toutes les iles de la region permet de se poser apres un morceau de route, on mange du poisson, on profite des plaisirs de la mer et du repos d'une belle plage, on recharge les batteries, et puis hop quelques jours apres on reprend la route bien en forme. (c'ets ce que je voulais dire 🙂).......des fois on peut trouver son bonheur et se reposer aussi en plein jungle ou dans un village de minorites en montagne, mais le mythe carte postal de l'ile tropicale est tres coriace😛
Je conseille toujours le lonely planet, puis de faire des recherches sur le forumvoyage pour les dernieres actualisations sur les regions qui vous plaisent (ne pas hesiter a poser d'autres questions unefois votre itineraire etabli ou encore une fois sur place quand vous hesitez)
Personnellement je ne reserve absolument rien en avance......mais je ne saurais donner ce conseil a tout le monde vu que je voyage a la routarde et les surprises ne me derangent pas. Pour te rassurer reserve les 2/3 premieres nuits pour l'arrivée sur place, le temps que tu vois venir le pays et puis apres tu verras selon le feeling et les infos des autres voyageurs par contre pour les periodes chargées (nouvel an) et les endroits prises (iles thailandaises) la reservation peut vous epargner des desagrements.
bon voyage
Bonjour.
L'archipel de Koh Chang est a l'est, tout pres de la frontière cambodgienne. Koh Chang est une grosse ile, tu ne peux pas la rater sur ta carte! (enfin, il y en a une autre cote ouest, près de la Birmanie mais je ne pense pas que ce soit celle la dont il s'agit, beaucoup plus sauvage).
L'archipel de Koh Chang est a l'est, tout pres de la frontière cambodgienne. Koh Chang est une grosse ile, tu ne peux pas la rater sur ta carte! (enfin, il y en a une autre cote ouest, près de la Birmanie mais je ne pense pas que ce soit celle la dont il s'agit, beaucoup plus sauvage).
bonjour à vous deux (trois),
tenez compte de tout ce qui vous a déjà été dit ci-dessus : ce sont de bons conseils (** voir commentaire annexe ci-dessous..), ceux en particulier d'Ayis, qui sont très proches de mes préférences et style.
voici ce que je vous conseille, avec une expérience de trois mois, unique et très positive : - arrivée BKK. deux à trois jours sur BKK1 afin d'en avoir un parfum, une petite idée (utiliser les river-boats sur la Chao Praya, visiter Wat Pho, la maison de Jim Thomson, avec retour par/sur le canal voisin, visiter (se balader) ds un parc / site culturel (par ex. Vimanmek museum et Dusit). mais ces suggestions sur BKK1 sont accessoires, l'essentiel est de se dire que vous y reviendrez), ne pas se presser, ne "faire" que deux choses par jour, la première tôt le matin, la seconde l'après-midi.
- partir pour le Nord, y consacrer un mois à quarante jours, pas moins ! soit : - Ayuthiya .. Sukkotai .. Chiang MaÏ .. Chiang Raï .. Mae Hong Son - terminer ce Nord-Thaïlande par Chiang Raï et Chiang Kong au Nord-Est .utiliser 1 les minibus 2 les bus confort 3 le train. .aller jusqu'à Mae Hong Son implique de passer par d'autres lieux intermédiaires très agréables .stationner un minimum de trois jours sur chaque endroit, poser des questions aux habitants des lieux sur ce qui est à réaliser, faire le tri, choisir selon vos préférences, styles, niveau de forme. .Chiang Maï et ses environs méritent une petite semaine (pour certains vingt jours !)
- passer la frontière vers le Laos à Chiang Kong // Huai Xai, utiliser le slow boat (2 jours) pour Luang Prabang. slow boat : une petite aventure originale .. pour grands et petits. rester 3 jours à LP, puis aller vers le Nord, vers la frontière chinoise (5-7 jours) : belle région préservée. repasser par LP (2 jours, repos), puis descendre vers Vientiane (3 jours). éviter Vang Vieng (ou stop pour la nuit) - le trajet route entre LP et Vang Vieng (montagneux) est juste époustouflant ! (possibilité de stop-nuit à mi-chemin ??)
- de Vientiane, ré-entrer en Thaïlande et sa région Isan, pauvre mais attachante. parcourir l'Isan (5-7 jours) vers Poïpet et passer au Cambodge vers Siem Reap // Angkor Vat (quatre jours).
à ce point, deux options : AA - rentrer à BKK2 pour repartir vers Kho Chang (détente et mer) BB - poursuivre au Cambodge vers Phnom Penh et Sihanoukville, puis poursuivre avec AA (mieux)
- Sud de la Thaïlande : éviter trois lieux trop connus et touristiques (..), viser Krabi, de cette ville, circuiter alentour (5 à 8 jours) (option sympa 24 heures sur village musulman lacustre au départ de Pang Nga, avec long tail boat au milieu de superbes iles-chicots et mangrove)
- passer en Malaisie par terre (aisé : visa automatique de trois mois), visiter ici et là, descendre sur Singapore (dix jours en tout)
- de Singapore, prendre un vol AR pour Bali (une petite semaine). prévoir résa sur Inet deux semaines d'avance. - quitter Bali pour une autre destination éventuelle, puis rentrer sur BKK3 (shoping) et enfin rentrer au bercail.
toutes ces lignes peuvent être agrémentées et modifiées avant ET durant votre voyage/progression, mais un planning est toujours meilleur. - tenir compte de la validité des visas, de leur renouvellement (où et comment) .. - tenir un décompte (addition) des sites et jours consacrés pour chacun.
$$ aucun de ces pays n'est "dur" pour un enfant. toute la région est d'une extraordinaire qualité d'accueil et d'honnêteté.
si vous souhaitez des détails, n'hésitez pas. amicalement. __ * * note du haut de page : je suis étonné de la qualité des réponses que vous avez reçues, qui contrastent beaucoup avec d'autres, souvent nombreuses mais médiocres. vos interlocuteurs sont aussi moins connus, moins habitués au bla bla. est-ce en raison de votre âge ?...
tenez compte de tout ce qui vous a déjà été dit ci-dessus : ce sont de bons conseils (** voir commentaire annexe ci-dessous..), ceux en particulier d'Ayis, qui sont très proches de mes préférences et style.
voici ce que je vous conseille, avec une expérience de trois mois, unique et très positive : - arrivée BKK. deux à trois jours sur BKK1 afin d'en avoir un parfum, une petite idée (utiliser les river-boats sur la Chao Praya, visiter Wat Pho, la maison de Jim Thomson, avec retour par/sur le canal voisin, visiter (se balader) ds un parc / site culturel (par ex. Vimanmek museum et Dusit). mais ces suggestions sur BKK1 sont accessoires, l'essentiel est de se dire que vous y reviendrez), ne pas se presser, ne "faire" que deux choses par jour, la première tôt le matin, la seconde l'après-midi.
- partir pour le Nord, y consacrer un mois à quarante jours, pas moins ! soit : - Ayuthiya .. Sukkotai .. Chiang MaÏ .. Chiang Raï .. Mae Hong Son - terminer ce Nord-Thaïlande par Chiang Raï et Chiang Kong au Nord-Est .utiliser 1 les minibus 2 les bus confort 3 le train. .aller jusqu'à Mae Hong Son implique de passer par d'autres lieux intermédiaires très agréables .stationner un minimum de trois jours sur chaque endroit, poser des questions aux habitants des lieux sur ce qui est à réaliser, faire le tri, choisir selon vos préférences, styles, niveau de forme. .Chiang Maï et ses environs méritent une petite semaine (pour certains vingt jours !)
- passer la frontière vers le Laos à Chiang Kong // Huai Xai, utiliser le slow boat (2 jours) pour Luang Prabang. slow boat : une petite aventure originale .. pour grands et petits. rester 3 jours à LP, puis aller vers le Nord, vers la frontière chinoise (5-7 jours) : belle région préservée. repasser par LP (2 jours, repos), puis descendre vers Vientiane (3 jours). éviter Vang Vieng (ou stop pour la nuit) - le trajet route entre LP et Vang Vieng (montagneux) est juste époustouflant ! (possibilité de stop-nuit à mi-chemin ??)
- de Vientiane, ré-entrer en Thaïlande et sa région Isan, pauvre mais attachante. parcourir l'Isan (5-7 jours) vers Poïpet et passer au Cambodge vers Siem Reap // Angkor Vat (quatre jours).
à ce point, deux options : AA - rentrer à BKK2 pour repartir vers Kho Chang (détente et mer) BB - poursuivre au Cambodge vers Phnom Penh et Sihanoukville, puis poursuivre avec AA (mieux)
- Sud de la Thaïlande : éviter trois lieux trop connus et touristiques (..), viser Krabi, de cette ville, circuiter alentour (5 à 8 jours) (option sympa 24 heures sur village musulman lacustre au départ de Pang Nga, avec long tail boat au milieu de superbes iles-chicots et mangrove)
- passer en Malaisie par terre (aisé : visa automatique de trois mois), visiter ici et là, descendre sur Singapore (dix jours en tout)
- de Singapore, prendre un vol AR pour Bali (une petite semaine). prévoir résa sur Inet deux semaines d'avance. - quitter Bali pour une autre destination éventuelle, puis rentrer sur BKK3 (shoping) et enfin rentrer au bercail.
toutes ces lignes peuvent être agrémentées et modifiées avant ET durant votre voyage/progression, mais un planning est toujours meilleur. - tenir compte de la validité des visas, de leur renouvellement (où et comment) .. - tenir un décompte (addition) des sites et jours consacrés pour chacun.
$$ aucun de ces pays n'est "dur" pour un enfant. toute la région est d'une extraordinaire qualité d'accueil et d'honnêteté.
si vous souhaitez des détails, n'hésitez pas. amicalement. __ * * note du haut de page : je suis étonné de la qualité des réponses que vous avez reçues, qui contrastent beaucoup avec d'autres, souvent nombreuses mais médiocres. vos interlocuteurs sont aussi moins connus, moins habitués au bla bla. est-ce en raison de votre âge ?...
Les saines valeurs résisteront toujours à la folle marche du monde. Commissaire Laurence.
oui, je partage ton avis, les infos que nous recevons sont de qualité. Quant aux tiens, c'est carrément un topo de voyage, tout y est, la durée, les caractéristiques des sites, nous allons étudier cela de près tout en étant encore loin...
Ns avions effectivement projeté de préparer ce voyage avec les guides type lonely et là, devant vos réponses j'ai l'impression que je vais gagner bcp de temps ds mes recherches sur les guides. Et puis, très honnetement, je ne regrette pas de vous avoir sollicité car de commencer ce voyage avec vous demeurera une belle expérience.
Qt à ton **, je ne sais pas si c'est du à l'age ou à l'énergie qui nous entoure car c'est un voyage avec une forte symbolique et c'est comme si l'univers se mettait en mouvement pour nous aider à le faire.
Encore merci, je ne pose pas d'autres questions ce soir même si j'en ai en tête. Nous allons nous renseigner pour ces questions de visas car c'est effectivement très déterminant.
Amicalement
Et si c'était par la fin que tout commencait... A. De St Exupéry
Vang Vieng comme tel n'a rien d'attirant il est vrai....à moins d'aimer s'écraser dans un de ses bars et regarder la télé... mais ses environs sont superbes; il y a de très belles balades à faire en campagne.
Mon épouse et moi, "120 ans", y avons séjourné 3 jours en novembre dernier.
Faut juste s'éloigner du centre-ville.
L'excursion sur la rivière est très amusante et bien organisée.
Pierroro
Quand le moment est arrivé, l'heure est venue! (C.Bobin.)
- et je vous remercie par avance pour votre réponse.
nous revoici 😉 avec des questions de visa.
Le visa pr la thailande est gratuit pr une durée de 30j, voire 60 depuis peu.
Ds la mesure où nous prenons un A/R Lyon-Bkk avec un intervalle de 3mois 1/2, que nous allons passer la frontière du laos en slow boat, comment justifier que nous restons - de 60 j en thailande ?
Par ailleurs, ns allons prendre un A/R pr indonésie mais nous pensions l'acheter à Bkk via Air Asia (- cher). J'imagine que la demande de visa est la 1ere formalité et qu'à ce moment là, ns n'aurons pas notre billet pr l'indonésie en poche puisque le comptoir d'air Asia se situe après les formalités administratives. Suis je claire ?
Si certains d'entre vous ont des expériences ou recommandations à ns faire, ns sommes preneurs.
Et si c'était par la fin que tout commencait... A. De St Exupéry
Bjr,
je voudrais réserver les 2 premières nuits à bkk because with we are with a child, avez vous des conseils, de bonnes adresses de GH à nous faire recommander ? ds quel secteur de bkk ? pour pouvoir irradier ensuite pdt 2 jrs. Merci
Et si c'était par la fin que tout commencait... A. De St Exupéry
Bonjour.
Le visa touriste a une validité de 60 jours (prolongeable de 30) depuis longtemps! Tu confonds avec le fait qu'on a pas besoin de visa pendant 30 jours. De plus, il n'est plus gratuit (c'était une promo jusqu'au 02/06). Il semble qu'en théorie, il faille présenter le billet retour mais on ne me l'a jamais demandé. Je pense qu'il ne le demandent plus justement du fait des billets électroniques... Difficile de prouver qu'on a acheté un billet sur Airasia (ce sont justement que des billets electroniques)! A ce propos, ton billet Airasia, tu peux l'acheter de n'importe où, le prix sera le même, tu l'achetes sur internet de toutes facons (il me semble même que dans un bureau Airasia, il ne peuvent pas faire certaines promo). Il vaut mieux l'acheter un peu a l'avance, il sera moins cher.
Pour les adresses sur Bangkok, je ne peux pas t'aider mais utilise la fonction recherche, c'est une demande courante.
Le visa touriste a une validité de 60 jours (prolongeable de 30) depuis longtemps! Tu confonds avec le fait qu'on a pas besoin de visa pendant 30 jours. De plus, il n'est plus gratuit (c'était une promo jusqu'au 02/06). Il semble qu'en théorie, il faille présenter le billet retour mais on ne me l'a jamais demandé. Je pense qu'il ne le demandent plus justement du fait des billets électroniques... Difficile de prouver qu'on a acheté un billet sur Airasia (ce sont justement que des billets electroniques)! A ce propos, ton billet Airasia, tu peux l'acheter de n'importe où, le prix sera le même, tu l'achetes sur internet de toutes facons (il me semble même que dans un bureau Airasia, il ne peuvent pas faire certaines promo). Il vaut mieux l'acheter un peu a l'avance, il sera moins cher.
Pour les adresses sur Bangkok, je ne peux pas t'aider mais utilise la fonction recherche, c'est une demande courante.
Bonjour Mathilde,
La gratuité du visa a été prolongée jusqu'en 2010, voir ce POST 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Bon sang! 😮
ça m'étonnais aussi qu'ils ne prolongent pas!!
Moi, j'ai payé le mien, en juin... 😠
Alors, soit il y a eu un temps avant la décision de prolongation, soit je me suis faite avoir carrément sur ce coup la!!! 😕
Et ce n'est pas impossible: le gars qui me l'a fait m'a dit qu'il était rentré de vacances la veille, avait demande si le visa était a nouveau payant et qu'on lui avait répondu que oui.🤪 Moi, j'avais un gros doute, mais vu que je ne savais pas (vraiment pas eu la possibilité de faire des recherches avant et c'était quelques jours après le 02/06 fatidique qui avait été annonce au début) j'ai pas eu d'autre choix que de payer (d'autant que je prenais l'avion le jour même!)...
Là, je suis deg'!!!
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Apres 1 nuit à Khao Sok je souhaite trouver un package 2 Jours 1 nuit sur le lac.
Après avoir beaucoup lu, je décide de "casser la tirelire" et nous offrir un tour Privé surtout pour éviter les bains de foule.
Mais en contactant plusieurs opérators, on me propose des "private tours" très chers (env 700 €) mais dans les détails les bateaux ne peuvent que partir de l'embarcadère à 10h du mat comme tous les autres. (Moi j'espérais partir très tôt). Le programme du matin est le même pour tt le monde aussi (privé ou non). On nous dépose à Midi à notre hotel flottant (j'avais choisi le Phupha waree). Après midi libre (baignade ou kayak devant l'hotel. On resort en bateau pour le coucher de soleil 1h. Et le matin on quitte l'hotel à 8h pour être à l'embarcadere à 9h30 max FIN du voyage
Donc en fait on paye cher un Private tour pour faire la mm chose que tt le monde et en mm temps.
Ou alors je suis mal tombé dans mes recherches. J'ai contacté Panida Ladi très populaire sur les forums . On s'était mis d'accord sur un circuit privé qui collait a ma demande (départ de l'embarcadere à 8h00....., circuit très personalisé). On s'est mis d'accord sur le circuit et le prix, m'a demandé un virement par wise pour un acompte de 30%, a confirmé la réception de l'acompte . Puis 30mn plus tard m'a envoyé un message pour me dire qu'elle annulait tout car il lui était impossible de faire le tour demandé, et m'a promis le remboursement rapide de mon acompte.
J'en viens donc à ma demande : Qui a fait un vrai tour privé sur ce lac ? Qui peut me conseiller une agence sérieuse ? Est il vraiment possible de faire un tour privé en fait sur ce lac....
Merci PS Mon projet est pour novembre
Donc en fait on paye cher un Private tour pour faire la mm chose que tt le monde et en mm temps.
Ou alors je suis mal tombé dans mes recherches. J'ai contacté Panida Ladi très populaire sur les forums . On s'était mis d'accord sur un circuit privé qui collait a ma demande (départ de l'embarcadere à 8h00....., circuit très personalisé). On s'est mis d'accord sur le circuit et le prix, m'a demandé un virement par wise pour un acompte de 30%, a confirmé la réception de l'acompte . Puis 30mn plus tard m'a envoyé un message pour me dire qu'elle annulait tout car il lui était impossible de faire le tour demandé, et m'a promis le remboursement rapide de mon acompte.
J'en viens donc à ma demande : Qui a fait un vrai tour privé sur ce lac ? Qui peut me conseiller une agence sérieuse ? Est il vraiment possible de faire un tour privé en fait sur ce lac....
Merci PS Mon projet est pour novembre
Hi,
I wanted to get some info about the cable car and the bridge—I see lots of different options...
How much time should we allow for these two activities? If we arrive around 4 PM, will we have enough time to visit without rushing?
Thanks
Hi everyone, I’m back on the forum.
I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot. If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
Thanks so much!
Marsyork
I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot. If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
Thanks so much!
Marsyork
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi! I’d like to split my trip into two parts: 15 days in Phuket and 15 days in Krabi. Do you know if I can rent a car and drop it off in Krabi when I fly back to France?
Thanks for your feedback!
Have a great Sunday!
Martine
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
Thanks for your advice and opinions!
Hello,
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.







