Crossing the Pyrenees by e-bike
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AL
Hi, We crossed the Pyrenees by e-bike last July, from Bayonne to Perpignan, taking small roads as close to the border as possible (25 mountain passes in 10 days). It was an absolute delight, and we can share tips with anyone interested in this experience.
alaingaillard
PH Philcaro ·
Hi, I’m really interested in your route—I’ve been touring by e-bike for two years now. I’d started looking at following the Pyrenees on the Spanish side because there are more roads running lengthwise than on the French side, but if you’ve done it on the French side, that means it’s doable—maybe there are more mountain passes? Did you find it easy to recharge the batteries (campsites, gîtes)? And for supplies? What kind of motor do your bikes have? Mine’s a rear-wheel motor, and I’ve heard they can overheat on mountain passes. Since I’ve never tackled a pass with it, it’s a bit of a mechanical adventure with 35 kg of luggage.

GU Gudruneve ·
good evening I was really drawn to the Pyrenees but worried I wouldn’t be able to cross them from east to west due to a lack of small roads. Turns out I was wrong, and I’d love to hear any tips you can share. Best regards
CL Claude19 Veteran ·
Great job on your e-bike ride! You can tackle quite a few routes that would be too challenging without the assistance. Next summer, I’m planning to take on the Alps completely self-supported. https://solar-trike.jimdo.com/sun-trip-tour-2017/
Je ne vais pas vite ...mais j'y vais !!! https://facebook.com/claude.lagriffoul
AL Almigama ·
Hi there, Our bikes are Kinetto (Canondale for the bike part and Shimano for the motor: 250W), loaded with rear panniers and Vaud handlebar bags. We completed our journey in 10 days, with stages ranging from 60 to 86 km, each including 1 to 3 mountain passes. In the evenings, we stayed at hotels with restaurants (a good shower, a comfy bed, and a nice meal without having to lift a finger—pure relaxation!). We’d done crossings before on regular bikes: the Vélodyssée from Roscoff to Bayonne, the Veloroute 6 from Orléans to Basel, etc., pulling a trailer with all our camping gear and sleeping in a tent... It’s great, but at our ages (66 and 70), it’s starting to take a toll. As for the route itself, I can give you more details if you’re interested, but roughly, the stages were: Bayonne, Lecumberry (near St Jean Pied de Port), Bedous, Arrens, Ste Marie de Campan, St Béat, Seix, Tarascon-sur-Ariège, Artigues (after the Port de Pailhères), Prades, Céret, Perpignan. We took the train back. Our budget was 120 € per day for two (picnic lunch, restaurant dinner, hotel, breakfast, and miscellaneous expenses like drinks, newspapers, extras, etc.). We had an amazing 10 days—so much so that we’re heading back this summer to tackle the 15 legendary cols of the Tour de France in the Alps! !
alaingaillard
AL Almigama ·
Hi there, Our bikes are Kinetto (Canondale for the bike part and Shimano for the motor: 250W), loaded with rear panniers and Vaud handlebar bags. We completed our journey in 10 days, with stages ranging from 60 to 86 km, each including 1 to 3 mountain passes. In the evenings, we stayed at hotels with restaurants (a good shower, a comfy bed, and a nice meal without having to lift a finger—pure relaxation! We’d done crossings before on regular bikes: the Vélodyssée from Roscoff to Bayonne, the VéloRoute 6 from Orléans to Basel, etc., pulling a trailer with all our camping gear and sleeping in a tent... It’s great, but at our age (66 and 70), it’s starting to take a toll. As for the route itself, I can give you more details if you’re interested, but roughly, the stages were: Bayonne, Lecumberry (near St Jean Pied de Port), Bedous, Arrens, Ste Marie de Campan, St Béat, Seix, Tarascon-sur-Ariège, Artigues (after the Port de Pailhères), Prades, Céret, Perpignan. We took the train back. Our budget was 120 € per day for two (picnic at lunch, restaurant in the evening, hotel, breakfast, and miscellaneous expenses like drinks, newspapers, extras, etc.). We had 10 wonderful days—so much so that we’re heading back this summer to the Alps to tackle the 15 legendary Tour de France climbs!
alaingaillard
PH Philcaro ·
Thanks almigama for your reply. The little problem is recharging without relying on hotels in remote areas (like the high Pyrenees?), where there are no campsites or gîtes. claude 19 has the right idea (solar power). By the way, I have a question for Claude: does your trike run directly off the solar panels, or do you recharge an auxiliary battery?

I saw that "Sun Travel" offers a solar trailer, but the solar panel is only 100W, and I see that most competitors have at least 300W. Do you think 100W is enough to recharge a 432Wh 36V auxiliary battery during a sunny day?
AL Almigama ·
Hi! I forgot to mention that we each had an extra battery, which doubled our range and allowed us to tackle stages of 90 km with up to 3 mountain passes. As for recharging the batteries, I carefully planned the route beforehand to find stops with hotels, gîtes, or guesthouses within our range, and with a bit of searching, you can always find options—even in some mountain passes or pretty remote spots.
alaingaillard
MA Mazzzz Veteran ·
Hi, I don’t see why you couldn’t recharge every night—from what I know, there aren’t any Pyrenean valleys without campgrounds or guesthouses.
AG Agathachrist Regular ·
Hi there!

Yes, yes!! I’d love some info—we’re planning this for September, self-supported, just like we did in the Alps! Thanks in advance. Cheers
AG Agathachrist Regular ·
In my haste, I didn’t take the time to look further into the discussions, but I see you’ve already answered a few, and I’ll be able to gather some info. For the Alps, I can tell you it was pure joy—so much so that we’ll definitely do it again in the opposite direction (Nice/Thonon). Once the mountains get under your skin... We had panniers and stayed in gîtes or hotels in the evenings. Best regards
CL Claude19 Veteran ·
Thanks almigama for your reply. The little problem is recharging without going through hotels in remote areas (like the high Pyrenees?) where there aren't any campsites or gîtes. claude 19 has the right solution (solar power). By the way, I have a question for Claude: is your trike powered directly by the solar panels, or do you recharge an auxiliary battery? I saw there's the "Sun Travel" offered as a solar trailer, but the solar panel is only 100W, and I see most competitors have at least 300W. Do you think 100W is enough to recharge a 432W 36V auxiliary battery during a sunny day?

My solar panels recharge the battery via a solar charger. I have a 16Ah 36V battery, which is 576W. I have a second identical one as a backup, though I admit I never use it. For the number of panels, 200W is enough—so two 100W panels.

The Sun Travel is good, but I find it expensive for my budget. I got a Yframe and built a small aluminum structure to mount the panels.

If you want links, I can send you some in a PM: trailers, affordable solar panels...

I don’t regret my setup—I’m completely self-sufficient. Pure bliss... nothing stops you from going to a campsite in the evening. I always ask for a spot in full sun 😏
Je ne vais pas vite ...mais j'y vais !!! https://facebook.com/claude.lagriffoul
AL Almigama ·
Hi, If you'd like more details about our crossings, no problem—just let me know the topics. On the other hand, if you could share details about your Alps crossing (stages, passes, mileage, accommodation), that’d be awesome since we’re planning something in that area this summer. What kind of bike do you have? Thanks! Best regards
alaingaillard
AG Agathachrist Regular ·
Good evening, I’ll try to be as precise as possible. Day 1: Thonon to Tanninge via the Dranse Gorges – 70 km (our only rainy day). Day 2: Tanninge to Cluses via the Col de la Colombière and Col des Aravis (km?) Day 3: Flumet to Seez via Les Saisies, Beaufort, and the Cormet de Roselend – 75 km. Seez is just after Bourg-Saint-Maurice. Day 4: Seez to the Roselend Dam, Col de l’Iseran, Bessans. Day 5: Bessans toward Lanslebourg, Modane via Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne, Col du Télégraphe (short but tough – that’s just my take!!!) to Valloire. We hesitated to go through Modane – big road, but surprisingly empty and very pleasant. Day 6: Valloire toward the Galibier, La Salle-les-Alpes, Briançon. Day 7: Briançon to Col de l’Izoard, descent to Avrieux, Gorges du Guil via Guillestre. Day 8: Guillestre to Col de Vars, descent to Saint-Paul-sur-Ubaye, Jausiers – 43 km. Day 9: Jausiers to Col de la Bonnette, Saint-Étienne-de-Tinée, Saint-Sauveur-sur-Tinée – 77 km. Day 10: Saint-Sauveur-sur-Tinée to Col Saint-Martin, Colmiane Valdeblore, Saint-Martin-Vésubie, Tourette-Levens. Day 11: Tourette-Levens to Nice – short day, end of the journey. Due to lack of time and work obligations, we cut the end a bit short. Normally, we’d have gone via the Col de Turini and Sospel, I think. For accommodations, no worries – hotels and guesthouses line the route. This was the second half of September. Our bikes are Gitane VTCs. We lightened the panniers as much as possible: a small stove, a mug for hot drinks (which we really appreciated a few times), some food for lunch, a windproof fleece, gloves, a beanie...
AL Almigama ·
Hi, Thanks so much for all this information—I’ll check it out on the map. We’re torn between a crossing like yours or several loops starting from one spot (in which case we’d take the camper van and the bikes on the bike rack). Thanks again! Best regards
alaingaillard
HU Hub93 ·
Just FYI, I’ve been riding an e-bike for several years now. My bike is a 3-year-old Kalkhoff, and it’s already clocked 73,000 km with no motor issues.

With two batteries, you can cover 200 km or tackle 2,500 m of elevation. For trekking, go for a mid-drive motor—it’s more energy-efficient.

This summer, we’re planning to do the Tour du Mont Blanc: 8,500 m of elevation in 3 days, but that’s another story.
Hubert
FL Flaps8 Regular ·
Hi there,

Last year I did the "Grande Traversée des Alpes" from north to south, 600 km on my e-bike. Range: 500 km. 125 cc. Super E98 fuel. No problem. It was a blast. 😎
CL Claude19 Veteran ·
Is it a motorcycle??

From your past posts on this forum, I’ve read that you don’t like e-bikes—I respect your choice, so please respect ours too. Personally, if I have an e-bike, it’s because I can’t do it any other way. A "normal" bike just isn’t possible for me anymore. In fact, I sold my car to get an e-bike—if I give up the e-bike, it’ll be to buy an old diesel that smokes and stinks... 😏
Je ne vais pas vite ...mais j'y vais !!! https://facebook.com/claude.lagriffoul
AG Agathachrist Regular ·
Hey there, As you suggested a while back, I’d love to get the route for your Pyrenees crossing. We could do it like we did the Alps!

Thanks in advance! Did you do the Alps? Best,
AL Almigama ·
Hi there, Here’s the route we took in July 2016 (quick reminder: we each had an extra battery, so our range was doubled!!) 1: Saint Pierre d'Irube - Lecumberry via Hasparren, Helette, Jaxu, and St Jean Pied de Port: 60 km with a rollercoaster profile but no real mountain pass (Hotel du Fronton, half-board for 2 = 90 €). 2: Lecumberry - Bedous: via Iraty, Larrau, Ste Engrace, and La Pierre St Martin: 86 km with the Burdincurutcheta, Bagargui, Soudet, and Hourarate passes (Maison Luard, half-board for 2 = 80 €). The toughest stage of them all! 3: Bedous - Aucun: via Sarrance, Bielle, Laruns, and Gourette: 76 km with the Marie-Blanque, Aubisque, and Soulor passes (Hotel Le Picors, half-board for 2 = 104 €). A really beautiful stage! 4: Aucun - Ste Marie de Campan: via Argelès Gazost, Luz St Sauveur, and Barèges: 62 km with the Tourmalet pass (Auberge des Pyrénées, half-board for 2 = 96 €). The legendary Tourmalet! 5: Ste Marie de Campan - St Béat: via Payolle, Arreau, and Luchon: 76 km with the Aspin and Peyresourde passes (L'abri d'Arlos near St Béat, half-board for 2 = 100 €). 6: St Béat - Seix: via Castillon en Couserans: 75 km with the Menté, Portet d'Aspet passes, and the Port de la Core (Auberge du Salat, half-board for 2 = 80 €). 7: Seix - Tarascon sur Ariège: via Aulus les Bains and Vicdessos: 58 km with the Latrape, Agnès passes, and the Port de Lhers (Hotel Bellevue, half-board for 2 = 107 €). 8: Tarascon sur Ariège - Artigues: via Bompas, Cassou, Ascou, and Mijanès: 76 km with the Pas de Souloumbrie, Marmare and Chioula passes, and the Port de Pailhères (Le Sapin Rouge, half-board for 2 = 88 €). Le Sapin Rouge is definitely worth recommending! 9: Artigues - Prades: via Escouloubre les Bains, Mosset, and Molitg les Bains: 60 km with the Moulis, Garavel, and Jau passes (Hotel Rich, night + breakfast for 2 = 45 € plus dinner). Quiet little roads and beautiful scenery! 10: Prades - Céret: via Finestret, Valmanya, and Oms: 68 km with the Palomère, Xatard, and Llauro passes (Hotel des Arcades, night + breakfast for 2 = 67 € plus dinner). 11: Céret - Perpignan: via Le Boulou, Sorède, Argelès sur Mer, and Cabestany: 59 km with the Col del Fourn. We returned to Pau, where we live, by train with our bikes via Narbonne and Toulouse. Feel free to ask if you need more details! Best regards
alaingaillard
AG Agathachrist Regular ·
Hello

Thanks for this great itinerary! Now we just need to pore over a good map and plan our route—so far, we’ll be relying on the strength of our calves. Could you confirm that all these stages have light traffic? There’s nothing worse for me than having to share the road, unless it’s for a few unavoidable kilometers! On the Route des Alpes, we were really lucky on that front—it was mid-September 2016. Best regards,
AL Almigama ·
Hi, The only sections where you might encounter other people are during the 4th stage between Argelès-Gazost and Luz-Saint-Sauveur, the 5th between Luchon and Cierp-Gaud, the end of the 7th between Vicdessos and Tarascon-sur-Ariège, and the 11th from Argelès-sur-Mer to Perpignan. For the rest, you're often (almost) alone or with just a few others, but we found it very manageable.

In the end, aren't you doing the crossing by e-bike? Best regards
alaingaillard
AG Agathachrist Regular ·
Hi there!

No, not an e-bike crossing! We haven’t tried it yet, but the time will come 😋
SY SylvainD66 ·
Hello, while doing some research I came across your post. It really caught my interest: at 65, I’ve just retired, and my teenage dream was to hike the GR 10 when I had the time (so, in retirement). Unfortunately, a recent knee problem is keeping me from racking up the kilometers on foot. Since I regularly ride an e-MTB in the Alps or the Lyonnais mountains, I thought I could swap hiking for cycling. I won’t be going off-road at all (I’ve already plotted a route on Land)—mostly small roads, around 60 km per day, staying in B&Bs or hotels. What I’d love to hear about from your experience is the technical and gear side of things.

If you’re still active on this forum, I’d be really happy to connect with you.

Best regards,
VF Vfpromeneur Veteran ·
Hi there,

I traveled from Bayonne to Rivesaltes via what is now the V81, right at the foot of the Pyrenees. We constantly ride alongside stunning landscapes. It’s flat with just one rare hill where I had to push my bike for 3 km. It’s doable with a muscle-assisted bike.
SY SylvainD66 ·
Hello and thank you for your reply! My goal is to figure out what to pack and how to carry it. Since October and the start of my retirement, I’ve been able to tackle routes of around sixty kilometers with some nice elevation gains. But I always head home at the end of the ride, so I have zero experience traveling for 15 days. I’ve got a Megamo VTTAE with two batteries, and the crossing is planned over 15 days with 60 km stages, staying in guesthouses or hotels. So, what clothes should I bring (in June, it can be hot, cold, sunny, or rainy)? I’m planning to cross a few mountain passes—what should I wear for the descents? Also, where and how should I store the second battery (3.5 kg)? For first-aid and repair kits, I’m guessing it won’t be too different from what I take for a day trip. Finally, how should I pack everything? Traditional panniers with Ortlieb’s quick-rack system, or bikepacking style with a saddle bag, handlebar bag, and frame bag? Since e-bikes aren’t always welcome on cyclotourism sites, I’d latched onto an old thread that was somewhat similar. But I’m open to any experience that could help me plan this trip. I’d briefly considered doing the Pyrenean foothills on a regular bike, but on my test rides (I’ve got an old Lejeune racing bike—it’s a bit of a relic—that’s been with me for 50 years), my knee doesn’t handle headwinds well. The electric assist solved that problem. Thanks again!
VF Vfpromeneur Veteran ·
Honestly, if you're going from hotel to hotel from late May to early September, there isn't much you need to pack.

For clothing: - Your hiking shorts + swim trunks and the day's t-shirt. - A lightweight rain jacket. You’ll just have to accept that your shorts will get wet if it rains—it dries quickly once the rain stops. https://www.decathlon.fr/p/veste-impermeable-de-randonnee-nh500-imper-homme/_/R-p-334354

- Optionally, cycling shorts to protect your perineum. - A spare pair of swim trunks and a t-shirt. - A lightweight fleece jacket. - Gloves to protect your hands, especially in case of a fall.

For food and hydration: - 2 flexible 1.5 L water bottles https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B000BS0AQU - 1 rigid 1.5 L water bottle to attach to the frame https://www.amazon.fr/Nalgene-WH-Sustain-Trinkflaschen-Grau/dp/B09LMR2PPL/ref=sr_1_11 - A packed lunch for midday.

3-4 L of water isn’t too much when it’s 35 °C all day.

A first-aid kit: - Your medications. - Supplies to clean a wound (hydrogen peroxide + cotton). - Supplies for a bandage (sterile gauze + adhesive tape + scissors). - Tweezers for splinters.

- Insect repellent for mosquitoes, horseflies, etc., for your thighs and forearms. Horseflies near farms can be really painful—they’ll follow you and deliver painful bites. https://www.decathlon.fr/p/spray-repulsif-anti-moustique-et-tique-icaridine-100-ml/_/R-p-331595 - Sunscreen for your thighs and forearms. - A hat to protect your neck, face, and ears from the sun. https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B01641EO28 - Sunglasses with photochromic or polarized lenses. - A small towel to wipe sweat from your face.

You’ll be barefoot in hiking sandals. https://www.decathlon.fr/p/sandales-de-randonnee-columbia-ridge-venture-homme/_/R-p-X8593205

A toiletry kit with Marseille soap for washing your body, hair, and doing laundry.

A tool kit: - You should be able to unscrew any nuts or screw heads. Skip multi-tools—they don’t cover all needs and are heavier. - Brake pads (or start with new ones). - Brake cables (or start with impeccable ones). - 3 thin, long zip ties. - A 50 cm strap. - A mini foot pump. https://www.zefal.com/fr/pompes-a-pied/24-profil-travel.html - A puncture repair kit and a spare inner tube. - Self-sealing Michelin Protek inner tubes combined with Schwalbe tires like Marathon Plus, which are heavily reinforced.

A handlebar bag (5 L minimum, ideally 7-8 L) and two small 10 L rear panniers will be more than enough.

In the handlebar bag, keep everything you need quick access to: sunscreen, horsefly repellent, the small towel, your hat, snacks, etc.

One rear pannier will be for food + pump + tool kit, and the other for clothing + first-aid and toiletry kits.
VF Vfpromeneur Veteran ·
>> Electric bikes aren’t exactly popular on cycle-touring sites,

Don’t be mistaken—we’re all getting older. There comes a time when you either stick to flat routes or get some assistance. We’re the first generation (born in the 1940s–1950s) to benefit from electric bikes, letting us extend our enjoyment despite a few aches and wear. Let’s not dismiss this option. Isn’t a bike itself already an enhancement tool? Long live assistive tech for mobility!
SY SylvainD66 ·
Thanks for all this info—it’s starting to come together in my head. With a 15-day trip, I still feel like I’m gonna forget something, and like all newbies, I’m sure I’ll overpack. The key is just not to forget the essentials. On that note, your comment about horseflies totally makes sense—I’d never forget them on a hike, but I wouldn’t have thought of them for biking. Actually, I’m realizing I can just adapt what I’d bring for a hike and not break the bank on gear (clothes, water, first aid). I’ll take the chance to tweak my bike a bit to make it more mountain-road-friendly. Thanks again

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