Descente Manaus-Santarém au Brésil
by Fanolinda
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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nous partons en aout 2010 au bresil et envisageons de descendre ou remonter l'amazone, le mieux serait de faire santarem manaus mais pour organiser le voyage (vol à l'intérieur du bresil et un treck de3ou4 jours en foret), j'ai besoin de savoir les jours de départ des bateaux pour ne pas nous retrouvé à attendre 5jours (je sais c'est les vacances mais un mois passe trop vite). je viens de trouver les horaires du NM santarem mais il y en a tous les 15 jours!!!!!!
si vous avez d'autres noms de compagnie.....
merci de votre aide
fanolinda
Hello Fanolinda,
il y a 1an et demi environ nous avons descendu le fleuve Amozonie dans l'autre sens que toi : Manaus à Santarém (d'où nous avons utilisé un autre coupon d'avion pour aller à Sao Luis).
Il y avait de nombreux bateaux sur le port de Manaus : à l'époque, il y en avait surtout les mercredi, jeudi et vendredi puis les WE. Nous avons pris une compagnie qui a des bateaux "Leao" ils s'appellent tous "Leao" (Leao 1, Leao 2, Leao 3, etc.). c'est pas une compagnie de tourisme : que des gens locaux, il faut prévoir ton hamac et on dort tous les uns sur les autres car une fois suspendus, les hamacs sont à touche-touche et en rangées superposées! En parallèle, il y avait des bateaux pour les touristes : cabines, climatiseurs, etc, mais plus chers, évidemment.
Nous sommes arrivés un mercredi à Manaus, et nous avons immédiatement pris nos billets de bateau : tu peux réserver de la veille pour le lendemain et les gens qui réservent peuvent même t'acheter ton hamac si tu n'en as pas car 3 jours debout, c'est long !! 😉
De mémoire, nous avions payé autour des 60 ou 70R$ par personne, 1 hamac compris (l'autre nous l'avions déjà).
Si jamais le bateau ne part que le sur-lendemain, ça te laissera le temps de faire quelques excursions depuis Manaus. Pas de souci donc pour les compagnies.
En revanche, depuis Santarém, il y en a beaucoup moins car autant Manaus est un port important, autant Santarém n'est qu'une escale optionnelle. Depuis Manaus, même si vous n'êtes que 2 à aller à Santarém, le bateau s'arrêtera.
Pour les conditions sur le bateau : topissime !! les gens sont vraiment des amours. si tu baragouines quelques mots de portugais, alors ce sera un régal !! par contre au niveau hygiène, ne lésine pas sur les solutions sans rinçage (vendues en pharmacie) ni sur les lingettes. les WC et la douche sont au même endroit (??), les cafards te passent sous les pieds pendant que tu te brosses les dents (à l'eau de bouteille, cela va de soi) et l'eau de la douche, c'est celle du fleuve 🙂. Mais pour nous, ce fut un des meilleurs moments des voyages que nous avons fait, nous nous sommes régalés.
un dernier conseil : c'est une route de la drogue, donc ne laisse jamais ton sac hors de ta vue, garde-le toujours prêt de toi. Accrochez vos hamacs vers les murs, histoire de pouvoir y laisser vos sacs. Si l'un de vous s'éloigne, que l'autre reste histoire de dissuader d'éventuelles personnes de mettre de la drogue dans vos sacs. Par ailleurs, ces bateaux sont régulièrement arrêtés et fouillés par la police des douanes et puisque tu seras une des seules blanches à bord, tu sera évidemment privilégiée pour la fouille 😇 Pas d'offense, c'est comme ça ! bon voyage et bon tangage !! héhé (j'ai mis quelques jours avant de ne plus ressentir la sensation de tangage du bateau après ces 3 jours 1/2 de voyage).
Pour les conditions sur le bateau : topissime !! les gens sont vraiment des amours. si tu baragouines quelques mots de portugais, alors ce sera un régal !! par contre au niveau hygiène, ne lésine pas sur les solutions sans rinçage (vendues en pharmacie) ni sur les lingettes. les WC et la douche sont au même endroit (??), les cafards te passent sous les pieds pendant que tu te brosses les dents (à l'eau de bouteille, cela va de soi) et l'eau de la douche, c'est celle du fleuve 🙂. Mais pour nous, ce fut un des meilleurs moments des voyages que nous avons fait, nous nous sommes régalés.
un dernier conseil : c'est une route de la drogue, donc ne laisse jamais ton sac hors de ta vue, garde-le toujours prêt de toi. Accrochez vos hamacs vers les murs, histoire de pouvoir y laisser vos sacs. Si l'un de vous s'éloigne, que l'autre reste histoire de dissuader d'éventuelles personnes de mettre de la drogue dans vos sacs. Par ailleurs, ces bateaux sont régulièrement arrêtés et fouillés par la police des douanes et puisque tu seras une des seules blanches à bord, tu sera évidemment privilégiée pour la fouille 😇 Pas d'offense, c'est comme ça ! bon voyage et bon tangage !! héhé (j'ai mis quelques jours avant de ne plus ressentir la sensation de tangage du bateau après ces 3 jours 1/2 de voyage).
merci pour ces infos🙂
je dois avouer que je n'avais pas penser à la drogue!!😠
pour les banheiros, je m'en doutais mais c'est l'aventure!!
bon, j'aurais bien voulu plutot faire santarem /manaus mais je pense que cela va être compliqué; ceci étant, je souhaite faire vraiment ce chemin plus pour l'ambiance; parlant portuguais puisque j'ai passé une année au brésil, c'est toujours fantastique de rencontrer les gens;
Quand au tangage, je n'y avais pas pensé non plus ... et là c'est la galère car , et mon ami et mes 2 enfants sont sensibles! je n'ai plus qu'à prendre le stock de mercalm et d'anti vomitif merci encore fanolinda
Quand au tangage, je n'y avais pas pensé non plus ... et là c'est la galère car , et mon ami et mes 2 enfants sont sensibles! je n'ai plus qu'à prendre le stock de mercalm et d'anti vomitif merci encore fanolinda
Pas trop d'inquiétude tout de même: en pas mal de balades sur l'Amazone dans tous les sens (je dois être à six ou sept...), il n'y a eu qu'une fois où j'ai été sujette à un léger mal de mer, suite à un orage, alors que je suis très très sensible (j'ai déjà eu le mal des transports sur une balançoire...) 😄
C'est vrai qu'on se sent tanguer encore un peu après trois jours, mais c'est léger...
C'est vrai qu'on se sent tanguer encore un peu après trois jours, mais c'est léger...
Juste une correction: il y autant de bateaux qui font le voyage Santarém-Manaus que de bateaux qui font Manaus-Santarém, puisque normalement le voyage est Belém-Manaus ou l'inverse. On paye selon le trajet qu'on fait. Évidemment, si on prend le bateau à Santarém, il peut y avoir des retards au départ, ou il peut être difficile de trouver une cabine (camarote) ou une suite libre. Mais il y a des bateaux tous les jours. Le Amazon Star est très bien (ou l'était, en août 2008). À éviter le Onze de Maio. Les conditions d'hygiène sont limite. Moi, j'ai préferé ne pas manger la nourriture offerte sur les bateaux, j'avais mon stock de gâteaux secs, fruits, tahine, thon en boîte, légumes en conserve. Pas génial, mais plus sûr. J'étais en cabine, c'étais assez confortable et la climatisation fonctionnait même trop bien (j'ai eu froid!). Si vous parlez portugais, ce sera très amusant. Les gens sont vraiment très ouverts et adorent discuter pour faire passer plus vite le temps du voyage.
🙂 Jamais eu de souci avec la nourriture, bien qu'ayant un estomac et un foie très très sensible...Il faut dire que les repas étant composés de riz, haricots rouges, couac, et viande très très cuite, ou poisson tout juste pêché, les dangers sont limités...
Bon, mieux vaut prévoir quand même un stock de médocs très efficaces, cela dit: vu la promixité, je n'ose imaginer ce que peut donner une tourista sur le bateau...🏴☠️
Bon, mieux vaut prévoir quand même un stock de médocs très efficaces, cela dit: vu la promixité, je n'ose imaginer ce que peut donner une tourista sur le bateau...🏴☠️
On peut toujours courir le risque... Lors de mon premier voyage en bateau sur l'Amazone (à bord du Onze de Maio, que je conseille d'éviter), j'ai découvert en discutant avec l'un des membres de l'équipage que le stock d'eau pour cuisiner était fini et qu'ils étaient en train de préparer les repas avec de l'eau du fleuve. Inutile de dire que vers la fin du voyage il y avait plusieurs cas de diarrhée... Donc depuis j'ai décidé de continuer à me nourrir de gâteaux secs et fruits pendant les trajets en bateau. Mais c'est clair qu'il y a des bateaux avec des conditions d'hygiène beaucoup meilleures. Il faut évaluer les risques au cas par cas - mais toujours avoir sur soi un stock de nourriture, au cas où... (étant brésilienne, je suis peut-être plus prête à critiquer les conditions d'hygiène et la qualité des repas que les voyageurs étrangers).
merci pour les renseignements
au final, nous allons faire manaus santarem avec un départ le dimanche sauf si c'est le onze de maio!!!
bonsoir
juste un petit pour te dire que le bateau c'est comme tu avais dit (sans la drogue!!!!), pour les douches je m'attendais à pire (meme pas vu un cafard!)
nous avons finalement fait santarem belem en bateau en partant le vendredi avec une arrivée le dimanche: les paysages sont magnifiques, les gens sont adorables et j'ai trouvé que le temps était passé trop vite, meme pas le temps de finir mon bouquin!!
et pas de problème de mal de mer pour ma petite famille
Bref c'était TOP
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I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!




