Bonjour,
Nous rejoignons le Népal début octobre pour faire le tour du Dhaulagiri puis rejoindre le lac Tilicho à partir de Marpha. Deux questions restent en suspens:
1) jusqu'où vont aujourd'hui les jeeps ou bus dans la vallée vers Darbang à partir de Beni?
2) Toutes les descriptions lues jusqu'à présent pour rejoindre le lac Tilicho partent de Manang, pour des raisons d'acclimatation probablement. Quelqu'un connait-il la voie contraire partant de Jomosom ou de sa région en passant par Kaisang avec un éventuel repérage GPS?
Merci à l'avance
Question 1:
... jusqu'à Darbang. Au delà, l'itinéraire du tour du Dhaulagiri emprunte un pont suspendu que les véhicules à 4 roues ne peuvent pas emprunter. Je précise que l'info date du novembre 2012 et qu'elle est donc récente (...les choses evoluent parfois assez vite...).
Vous pouvez naturellement prendre un des bus qui font l'aller/retour Beni-Darbang en route mais le chemin Beni-Darbang n'est pas foncièrement désagréable même si y'a mieux que de se faire doubler par des bus & 2 routes sur une route poussiéreuse. Personnellement, j'ai préféré le plaisir de la marche au bus et j'ai compensé le déplaisir de croiser des vehicules motorisés avec le soleil, la vue sur les magnifiques rizieres et les delicieuses babanes que j'ai acheté en route 🙂
Quelques photos de la section Beni-Darbang:
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Question 2:
Yes, je connais.
Dans la foulée du tour du Dhaulagiri, j'ai fait une boucle Jomsom-Jomsom en montant par le thorong la pour aller jusqu'à Manang et revenir par le Tilicho & le mesokanto la. J'ai donc descendu l'itinéraire par lequel vous envisagez de monter.
Vous allez où après le lac Tilicho ? Vous comptez revenir sur vos pas ? Parce que la boucle que j'ai fait, ça se fait très bien... j'ai croisé pas mal de monde en sens inverse à la montée du thorong mais une fois au col, j'ai gouté à une chose rare: des vues magnifiques sur les annapurnas en descendant le thorong (dans le sens où tout le monde le monte) avec pas l'ombre d'un randonneur (si ce n'est la mienne).
Si vous tenez à faire la montée Jomsom - Mesokanto - Tilicho, je peux checker si j'ai pris un ou deux points GPS... va falloir que je fouille dans mes archives.... je reviens plus tard.
Bon, comme je suis un mec qui range tout super bien (hummm), retrouver quelques points GPS ne m'aura pris que quelques min.
J'ai 2 points juste au dessus de Thinigaon. Cela devrait vous permettre de sortir de la ville & la vallée, ce qui est souvent le plus dur.
Voici:
- 28° 46.145'N, 83° 43.670'E
- et juste au dessus: 28° 46.051'N, 83° 43.773'E
Si tu positionnes ces points sur google earth tu verras qu'il sont associés à une grosse piste: c'est effectivement le chemin qu'il faut prendre. La grosse piste ne dure pas longtemps, elle se transforme assez vite en piste moins "autoroute" puis en petit chemin monotrace plus loin.
Curieusement, lorsque je suis descendu du Mesokanto la jusqu'à Jomsom, je ne suis pas passé par Kaisang, mais un peu au dessus.
J'ai croisé plusieurs fois des panneaux indicateurs "Lac tilicho" au cours de la descente, mais ils sont très espacés. Je pense qu'une fois engagé sur le chemin sur la base des 2 points GPS que j'ai indiqué, il vous faudra y aller un peu au pifomètre mais vous devriez vous en sortir sans problème.
Voici le point GPS du Mesokanto la: 28° 43.089'N, 83° 49.456'E
Comme tu pourras le voir sur google earth, c'est assez raide, mais le chemin descend en zig zag. En soi, le fait que ce soit raide n'est pas problématique mais retour d'expérience de novembre 2012: cela peut etre glacé ! Et la glace recouverte de poussière dans des pentes raides... quel bonheur à descendre 🤪 (à monter dans votre cas).
En prévision de conditions un peu pourries, des batons de marche constituent le strict minimum. Si vous voulez sécuriser, crampons et piolets (franchement à la descente, j'aurais pas craché sur un piolet) !
Une fois passé le Mesokanto la, les paysages sont extra et immédiatement après le col, la trace est évidente... pour un temps du moins. Attendez vous à des passages sans traces. En venant du sens inverse, j'avais combiné mon pifomètre gradué, la découverte de quelques cairns et la recherche de quelques panneaux de ce genre pour m'orienter:
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Mefiez vous des cartes qui indiquent la possibilité de passer le long du lac versant est: ca ne passe pas ! Versant ouest, il faudrait s'encorder (passage sur glacier) et ça craint et encore une fois le long du lac versant est, ça ne passe pas => passez par l'eastern pass indiqué sur les cartes.
Une fois à l'eastern pass, ça sera du gateau en termes d'orientation jusqu'au lac Tilicho.
Si tu veux je peux te mettre à disposition plusieurs photos pour te donner une idée de l'itinéraire/vous donner quelques repères complémentaires.
Un tout autre sujet: j'essaie de reprendre les "soirées trek" avec mes camarades.
Mais nous sommes toujours confronté à quelques problèmes logistiques et organisationnels avec le resto qui nous accueille jusqu'ici. On espère que ça va se débloquer prochainement.
Merci Samuel pour toutes ces précieuses précisions. Je regarderai de près tes indications. Nous comptons monter et descendre par le même chemin car notre temps est réduit. J'espère aussi que nous nous revoyons bientôt.
Bonjour Samuel,
Je viens de positionner tes 2 points au départ qui me confirment l'itinéraire à son début. Je vois aussi qu'en novembre 2012, la Mesokanto la était autorisée (j'avais lu qu'il ya un camp militaire dans lequel on peut facilement se fourrer et avoir des problèmes...). Je pense qu'aller jusque vers Kaisang ne sera pas compliqué. Si tu as quelques repères aprés Kaisang cela pourrait nous être très utile...
Merci de ton aide en tous cas.
Bonjour et merci pour ces photos qui montrent bien le chemin. Ca semble fort enneigé... J'ai repéré quelques points GPS pour la montée avec l'aide de Samuel . Dis moi si ça t'intéresse.
Salut,
Voilà mes relevés sur GE. Rien n'est sûr sauf les pts "avéré" donnés par Samuel et Mesokanto la (important car on trouve vraiment n'importe quoi par ailleurs. Le reste dépendant de ses descriptions. Toutes les cartes vues sont fausses comme d'habitude. Samuel ne passe pas par Kaisang (pt avéré Wikimapa): 28°44'12.51"N 83°46'58.58"E 3829. Nous comptons donc ne pas y passer non plus.On verra bien.
selon SA avéré environ Thinigaon 28°46'8.70"N 83°43'40.20"E 2931
selon SA avéré 28°46'3.06"N 83°43'46.38"E 2992
selon SA 28°45'56.12"N 83°44'26.95"E 3228
selon SA 28°45'40.55"N 83°45'54.35"E 3558
selon SA 28°45'38.27"N 83°47'0.12"E 3932
selon SA 28°45'26.28"N 83°47'43.98"E 3991
selon SA avéré 28°45'10.02"N 83°48'20.52"E 4077
selon SA 28°44'57.73"N 83°48'12.67"E 4144
selon SA pt eau abri 28°44'29.26"N 83°48'28.47"E 4191
selon SA 28°44'14.61"N 83°48'9.77"E 4234
selon SA 28°43'54.58"N 83°48'46.14"E 4538
Mesokanto pass selon SA 28°43'5.34"N 83°49'27.36"E 5235
selon SA 28°43'4.59"N 83°49'32.64"E 5220
selon SA 28°43'2.56"N 83°49'49.75"E 5280
selon SA 28°43'4.40"N 83°49'59.70"E 5263
La descente vers le lac Tilicho me gêne car en fait le chemin semblerait remonter après le col ce qui est bizarre. Je compte y repasser un peu de temps avant de partir ainsi que sur la montée de la passe elle même avec les photos du lien que tu m'as transmis.
Les points actuels (peu sûrs donc) sont:
28°43'4.59"N 83°49'32.64"E 5220
28°43'2.56"N 83°49'49.75"E 5280
28°43'4.40"N 83°49'59.70"E 5263
28°42'34.03"N 83°50'19.85"E 4960
28°42'29.33"N 83°50'23.92"E 4925
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