Durée du trajet France-Maroc en voiture et coût de la traversée?
by Saboune69
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour, nous sommes 3 filles a partir pour le maroc en voiture j'aimerai savoir combien coute la trverser du tedroit de gibraltar et si l'on peu dormir le long des routes en espagne dans des tantes sans se faire tuer, et aussi combiende jour faut t'il compter en partant de lyon
est ce que les autoroutes sont chers en espagne ? merci de vos reponses
😎 SALUT LES FILLES !!
Pour le prix de la traversée Algeciras/Ceuta = 1 voiture + 2 personnes 130, 40 € le 4 Janvier 2006 Je ne vous conseille pas de dormir comme ça en Espagne, ça craind dur dur, de plus en plus tout les ans !! rechercher obligatoirement un camping pour la nuit ou Hotel !! L'Espagne est devenu un pays de brigands où le client est le voyageur en automobile !!!!! ( voir sur ce même forum, rubrique "arnaque a eviter") Ne pas s'arretter si on est doublé par une auto ( plus ou moins de police) voir avec un vrai flic sur la route ou station service où il y a du monde !!!! OUI les autoroutes sont cher en Espagne (c'est comme la France) mais il y a pas mal de route a 4 voies gratuites !! pour le carburant c'est aussi cher qu'en France Pour le nombres de jours ?? tout dépend du comment tu conduit ou les impératif de dates ??? De Bordeaux à Algeciras = 1 400kms, suivant humeur = 2 à trois jours (il y en a qui font Paris/Algeciras en 24H? avec plusieurs conducteurs) et vive les vacances !!!!
PAPY (retraité et pas pressé)
Pour le prix de la traversée Algeciras/Ceuta = 1 voiture + 2 personnes 130, 40 € le 4 Janvier 2006 Je ne vous conseille pas de dormir comme ça en Espagne, ça craind dur dur, de plus en plus tout les ans !! rechercher obligatoirement un camping pour la nuit ou Hotel !! L'Espagne est devenu un pays de brigands où le client est le voyageur en automobile !!!!! ( voir sur ce même forum, rubrique "arnaque a eviter") Ne pas s'arretter si on est doublé par une auto ( plus ou moins de police) voir avec un vrai flic sur la route ou station service où il y a du monde !!!! OUI les autoroutes sont cher en Espagne (c'est comme la France) mais il y a pas mal de route a 4 voies gratuites !! pour le carburant c'est aussi cher qu'en France Pour le nombres de jours ?? tout dépend du comment tu conduit ou les impératif de dates ??? De Bordeaux à Algeciras = 1 400kms, suivant humeur = 2 à trois jours (il y en a qui font Paris/Algeciras en 24H? avec plusieurs conducteurs) et vive les vacances !!!!
PAPY (retraité et pas pressé)
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
http://papyetmamyenvoyage.kazeo.com/
😎 SALUT !!
Excuse pour ton pays !! mais j'en ai marre de me faire cambrioler la voiture de temps d'un p'ti déj !! ou de tomber sur des faux flics qui te vole l'argent des vacances !! même que le consulat Francais en parle et met en garde !! il y a aussi un article sur ces bandits de grand chemin du 21eme siécle sur un journal télé !! ne te voile pas la façe !! ils sont déjà au travail sur les automobilistes étrangers, surtout sur ceux présumer partir en Afrique (4x4), voyageurs avec de l'argent liquide (pas toujours facile de trouver une banque carte visa partout) Ce ne sont pas des histoires !!! ça m'est arrivé !! oui A MOI !! DEUX FOIS EN 8 JOURS !!! et j'ai une liste de courageuses victimes qui osent le proclamer !!! c'est bon aussi pour les CC la nuit sur une aire de repos !!
PAPY ( qui traverse l'Espagne le doigt sur la detente?)
Excuse pour ton pays !! mais j'en ai marre de me faire cambrioler la voiture de temps d'un p'ti déj !! ou de tomber sur des faux flics qui te vole l'argent des vacances !! même que le consulat Francais en parle et met en garde !! il y a aussi un article sur ces bandits de grand chemin du 21eme siécle sur un journal télé !! ne te voile pas la façe !! ils sont déjà au travail sur les automobilistes étrangers, surtout sur ceux présumer partir en Afrique (4x4), voyageurs avec de l'argent liquide (pas toujours facile de trouver une banque carte visa partout) Ce ne sont pas des histoires !!! ça m'est arrivé !! oui A MOI !! DEUX FOIS EN 8 JOURS !!! et j'ai une liste de courageuses victimes qui osent le proclamer !!! c'est bon aussi pour les CC la nuit sur une aire de repos !!
PAPY ( qui traverse l'Espagne le doigt sur la detente?)
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
http://papyetmamyenvoyage.kazeo.com/
Pouriez vous me dire ou je peus trouver les billet que vous donner a 130 euros merci beaucoup, je dois partir le 28 juillet de valenciennes pense pouvoir arriver a algeciras le 1 aout,
😎 SALUT !! les billets à 130, 40€ que j'ai payé !! c'était le 4 Janvier 2006 pour 1 AUTO + 2 PERSONNES
C' est la traversée d' ALGECIRAS à CEUTA ( aller simple)
Billets pris à la capitainerie du port d' Algeciras (c'est dans le port pas loin de l'embarquement)
Le prix des billets change tout le temps surtout en été où il y a le plus de monde !!!!!
PAPY
PAPY
En Afrique tout est possible, mais rien n'est certain ....!!
http://papyetmamyenvoyage.kazeo.com/
salut
nous aussi on compte partir au maroc vers mi aout
par mon experience la traverse de l espagne peut se faire en un seul jour
on partait de perpignan aux alentours de 4h du matin et nous pouvions embarques des le soir sur le fery
il y a des sites des ferry espagnol qui te donnent les horaires et les prix
regarde ou il est avantageux de traverse car des fois entre le prix du carburant c kif kif et tu gangnes en tps
regarde tapes ferry maroc sur ggogle t auras toutes les agences de ferry
j ai regarde a pieds le moins cher est cadiz(tarifa) tanger a 35€
nous on pense laisser la voiture en espagne pour un probleme de couts...
j ai trouve un bon plan
pour a peu pres le meme prix (j ai calculer 200€ a/r france maroc/pers a trois)
il y a inter rails en zone F (espagne + maroc) train illimite pendant 16 jours a 185€
comme on n aura pas beaucoup de temps le train sera tres bien pour voir le maximum de chose au maroc
nous partons a l aventure faire un peu de randonnee
si vous avez des bons plans n hesite pas ;-)
bon courage @++
bon courage @++
Bonjour,
Mon dernier voyage date du mois d'avril, le prix du bateau AR + 2 personnes m'a couté 244.57€ Algéciras - Cebta
Pour ce qui est de dormir le long de la route en Espagne, mieux vaut s'arrêter dans des stations où il y a beaucoup de monde et dormir dans la voiture si possible, c'est mon conseil.
Moi et ma femme, en partant de Saintes (17) - Rabat, 24 heures.
Les autoroutes sont aussi chères en Espagne qu'en France, je prends les nationales qui sont pour la plupart en 4 voies et gratuites. Pour mon cas, je paye 1.40€ avant d'arriver à San Sebastian et tout le reste en 4 voies gratuites..
Le gaz-oil est 2 ou 3 cent. moins cher en Espagne mais au Maroc 0.69€ au mois d'avril.
Bon voyage ...
bonjour.ns depuis la retraite de mon mari ns avons achete un c.car.je viens de lire tes conseils a savoir pr l'espagne le point vu securite c'est dingue, je n'aurais jamais pense qu'il exitait encore des bandits de grand chemin.ns emmenons ns 2 chiens personnes pr ns les garder!!!est-il bien de rester queques jrs en andalousie et ensuite traverser pr le maroc, ton avis serait le bien venu.Ce saura la 1ere aventure que l'on fera.je ne sais pas si sinstaller au maroc est bien, mais en tous les cas vsavez bien raison car les reportages que l'on voit a la tele cela fait rever!!!!! donc pr les billets mieux vaut les prendres sur place ok!
forzamatt
merçi, normal que tu ne perde pas ton temps en espagne!!! tu a l'air d'etre presse d'arriver au maroc j'ai hate aussi d'y aller depuis le temps que j'en entend parler!!!!.
forzamatt
bonjour, nous sommes 3 filles a partir pour le maroc en voiture j'aimerai savoir combien coute la trverser du tedroit de gibraltar et si l'on peu dormir le long des routes en espagne dans des tantes sans se faire tuer, et aussi combiende jour faut t'il compter en partant de lyon
est ce que les autoroutes sont chers en espagne ? merci de vos reponses
Bonjour, nous nous sommes deux gars et nous cherchons un covoiturage pour traverser l'espagne direction le maroc. Nous partons entre le 15 et le 20 juillet, si jamais vous aviez deux places de libre, nous pourrions partager les frais. Pour l'autoroute, il faut compter 69 euros depuis Narbonne (nous sommes à narbonne). Merci. François mail: fnajac@yahoo.fr
Bonjour, nous nous sommes deux gars et nous cherchons un covoiturage pour traverser l'espagne direction le maroc. Nous partons entre le 15 et le 20 juillet, si jamais vous aviez deux places de libre, nous pourrions partager les frais. Pour l'autoroute, il faut compter 69 euros depuis Narbonne (nous sommes à narbonne). Merci. François mail: fnajac@yahoo.fr
bonjour, nous sommes 3 filles a partir pour le maroc en voiture j'aimerai savoir combien coute la trverser du tedroit de gibraltar et si l'on peu dormir le long des routes en espagne dans des tantes sans se faire tuer, et aussi combiende jour faut t'il compter en partant de lyon
est ce que les autoroutes sont chers en espagne ? merci de vos reponses
Bonjour, nous nous sommes deux gars et nous cherchons un covoiturage pour traverser l'espagne direction le maroc. Nous partons entre le 15 et le 20 juillet, si jamais vous aviez deux places de libre, nous pourrions partager les frais. Pour l'autoroute, il faut compter 69 euros depuis Narbonne (nous sommes à narbonne). Merci. François mail: fnajac@yahoo.fr
sa aurait avec plaisir mais nous partons debut aout donc les dates sont pas bonnes et en plus sa aurait ete trop serrer on est en cabriolé .desolé et bonne vacances
Bonjour, nous nous sommes deux gars et nous cherchons un covoiturage pour traverser l'espagne direction le maroc. Nous partons entre le 15 et le 20 juillet, si jamais vous aviez deux places de libre, nous pourrions partager les frais. Pour l'autoroute, il faut compter 69 euros depuis Narbonne (nous sommes à narbonne). Merci. François mail: fnajac@yahoo.fr
sa aurait avec plaisir mais nous partons debut aout donc les dates sont pas bonnes et en plus sa aurait ete trop serrer on est en cabriolé .desolé et bonne vacances
vous pouvez allez au maroc en toute securité et vous pouvez vous vous reposez sur la route, pour aller au maroc a partir de lyon il faut compter envrons 24 heures, et ils faut compter 120 euro pour l autoroute ( en espagne ça coute pas trop cher), et 3 pleins du carburant, et pour la traversé il faut 80 eur pour la voiture et 20 euro la personne.
Cela fait 35 ans que je fais ce trajet :France -Maroc
Je partirais de nouveau de Pau (64) vers Marrakech debut Aout
Il me faut environ 30 H non stop pour faire ce trajet
Pau - Algeciras 1400km soit environ 15 -17H avec les pauses la chaleur etc.
Celui qui fait Saintes(17) Rabat en 24H eh bien il est fort.
Il faut savoir qu'il peut y avoir une attente importante au depart du Ferry. puis ensuite a la douane il faut compter 1H a 2H
Compte 150€ pour la voiture et 50€ /personne pout le trajet ALLER/RETOUR (uniquement pour le FERRY)
2 a 3 pleins d'essences et des litres d'eau pour la soif ;-)
PS tu peux faire le plein d'essence a CEUTA c'est hors taxe
Quand au autovia en espagne elles sont gratuites, je ne paye personnellement que celle qui contourne MADRID et qui est cher.
Les conseils donnés plus haut sont valables, attention en Espagne
De Pau je mets dorenavant 1J et demi jours pour arriver a Marrakech, je ne prends plus de risques et je profite comme ca de mon voyage.
Si tu peux faire le trajet a 2 ou plusieurs voitures c'est encore mieux
Je partirais de nouveau de Pau (64) vers Marrakech debut Aout
Il me faut environ 30 H non stop pour faire ce trajet
Pau - Algeciras 1400km soit environ 15 -17H avec les pauses la chaleur etc.
Celui qui fait Saintes(17) Rabat en 24H eh bien il est fort.
Il faut savoir qu'il peut y avoir une attente importante au depart du Ferry. puis ensuite a la douane il faut compter 1H a 2H
Compte 150€ pour la voiture et 50€ /personne pout le trajet ALLER/RETOUR (uniquement pour le FERRY)
2 a 3 pleins d'essences et des litres d'eau pour la soif ;-)
PS tu peux faire le plein d'essence a CEUTA c'est hors taxe
Quand au autovia en espagne elles sont gratuites, je ne paye personnellement que celle qui contourne MADRID et qui est cher.
Les conseils donnés plus haut sont valables, attention en Espagne
De Pau je mets dorenavant 1J et demi jours pour arriver a Marrakech, je ne prends plus de risques et je profite comme ca de mon voyage.
Si tu peux faire le trajet a 2 ou plusieurs voitures c'est encore mieux
La vie c'est comme une boite de chocolat, on ne sait jamais sur quoi on va tomber
De nouveau Happy...
Kolargool, Quelle expérience... Si je peux me permette de te demander quels conseils (en plus des autres.. voir autre discussion)
Je trouve que cette année les tarifs pour le Ferry ont drolement augmenté, le billet EUROFERRYS pour un départ toute les heures vers TANGER a augmenté de 35%!! (tarif EUROMER) Et toi, passes tu par TANGER ou CEUTA? as tu déjà pris le BAQUEBUS? Que penses tu des arrêts dans les "aires de repos pour MRE" ?
Merci encore pour tes réponses
Kolargool, Quelle expérience... Si je peux me permette de te demander quels conseils (en plus des autres.. voir autre discussion)
Je trouve que cette année les tarifs pour le Ferry ont drolement augmenté, le billet EUROFERRYS pour un départ toute les heures vers TANGER a augmenté de 35%!! (tarif EUROMER) Et toi, passes tu par TANGER ou CEUTA? as tu déjà pris le BAQUEBUS? Que penses tu des arrêts dans les "aires de repos pour MRE" ?
Merci encore pour tes réponses
K-ROL
Je penses qu a moins de 3 personnes, il vaut mieux prendre l'avion.
Les prix ont explosé avec la hausse du petrole.
Je passes par CEuta (4 fois j'ai pris Tanger et j'ai pas aimé)
Il faut dire que avant on s'arretait a Ceuta faire des courses car c'est une ville "hors taxe"
De plus je me sens plus a mon aise si je passes un minimum de temps sur l'eau (45 mn) contre (1H30 2H)
J'ai essayé de dormir dans le bateau mais cela devient de plus en plus dur avec le bruit et dormir dans le vehicule cela est desormais interdit.
Pour les air de repos, je ne connais pas et comme c'est specié " pour les MRE" je suppose que les non MRE n'y sont pas les bienvenues 🤪
Les prix ont explosé avec la hausse du petrole.
Je passes par CEuta (4 fois j'ai pris Tanger et j'ai pas aimé)
Il faut dire que avant on s'arretait a Ceuta faire des courses car c'est une ville "hors taxe"
De plus je me sens plus a mon aise si je passes un minimum de temps sur l'eau (45 mn) contre (1H30 2H)
J'ai essayé de dormir dans le bateau mais cela devient de plus en plus dur avec le bruit et dormir dans le vehicule cela est desormais interdit.
Pour les air de repos, je ne connais pas et comme c'est specié " pour les MRE" je suppose que les non MRE n'y sont pas les bienvenues 🤪
La vie c'est comme une boite de chocolat, on ne sait jamais sur quoi on va tomber
Merci beaucoup pour toutes ces précisions qui je pense me seront bien utiles.
Le départ est proche et la seule angoisse que j'ai c'est l'attente au ferry...on verra bien..
Par CEUTA, la route n'est pas très bonne je crois pour rejoindre TANGER, et surtout pour passer la douane, cela prend pas mal de temps? Dans le ferry pour TANGER, la douane est dans le bateau, ce qui est beaucoup pratique et rapide.
Bonne vacances à toi aussi, je pense que tu pars aussi cette année.
Le départ est proche et la seule angoisse que j'ai c'est l'attente au ferry...on verra bien..
Par CEUTA, la route n'est pas très bonne je crois pour rejoindre TANGER, et surtout pour passer la douane, cela prend pas mal de temps? Dans le ferry pour TANGER, la douane est dans le bateau, ce qui est beaucoup pratique et rapide.
Bonne vacances à toi aussi, je pense que tu pars aussi cette année.
K-ROL
effectivement KarOL la queue on peut la faire dans le bateau pour les formalités mais pour moi cela n'a pas suffit car les douaniers du bateau font un "trie" en ne remplissant pas correctement les documents pour laisser du boulot a l'arrivée au autres douaniers.(si si ca arrive)
par Ceuta c'est moins cher, plus court (30 a 45 Min) mais de ceuta a Larache c'est galere les routes et la tu perds du temps.
Par Tanger c'est plus long (1H30 a 2H), plus cher mais tu n'es qu'a qques Km de l'autoroute.
L'un dans l'autre cela doit etre Kif KIf.
Effectivement nous serons 4 a partir entre le 29 et 2 Aout. Cette année je fais decouvrir le Maroc a un copain d'enfance 😉
bonne route a toi aussi penses a avoir tous vos papiers en regle, le minimum pour la voiture (triangle, gilet, roue de secours gonflée, bout de fil electique, bout de tuyau, lampe de poche et qques clés)
par Ceuta c'est moins cher, plus court (30 a 45 Min) mais de ceuta a Larache c'est galere les routes et la tu perds du temps.
Par Tanger c'est plus long (1H30 a 2H), plus cher mais tu n'es qu'a qques Km de l'autoroute.
L'un dans l'autre cela doit etre Kif KIf.
Effectivement nous serons 4 a partir entre le 29 et 2 Aout. Cette année je fais decouvrir le Maroc a un copain d'enfance 😉
bonne route a toi aussi penses a avoir tous vos papiers en regle, le minimum pour la voiture (triangle, gilet, roue de secours gonflée, bout de fil electique, bout de tuyau, lampe de poche et qques clés)
La vie c'est comme une boite de chocolat, on ne sait jamais sur quoi on va tomber
je voudrais aller a leblad avec ma femme et mon fils vers le 8-03-07, je prendrais le trajet bordeau / madrid mais on lisant les commentaires des freres sur autres pages..je commence a m''en doute si je le ferais ou non...l''1 dit qu'il est tres dangereux l''autre s'inquiete au sujet de aire de repos...mois j'ai besoins de conseil des bons gens...je veux bien voir lwalida et lwaliid tant que je respiiiiiiirrr...merci.....et s'il y a des freres qui prendraient la route vers leblad vers la meme date ..et ben qu''ils me contactent pour faire de la route un lien de rahim et de fraternite....jazakom allaho khayran jawi.salaban@hotmail.com
🙂bonjour
venant de lyon, et si vous vous relayéz au volant et en partant tot le matin, il vous faut 2 jours pour traverser l'espagne, donc une nuit en cours de route, l'autre sur le port.
ne pas dormir n'importe ou, mais dans une grande station service, si la voiture est grande il faut l'amenager pour dormir dedans au dessus des bagages avec des panneaux bois.
le peage est assez cher ( 115 € en classe 2 en janvier), vous avez la possibilite de passer par andorre ensuite saragosse, madrid, par ce cote l'autoroute est gratuite mais plus longue de 200 kms.
le carburant est moins cher qu'en France, environ 20 centimes.
la traversée est plus courte et moins chere que 130€ si vous depassez algeciras vers tarifa voila les dernieres infos
salut
salut, concernant la traversé en bateau il faut compter 90e pour la voiture et 38e pour chaque personne a peu pres je men souvient plus vraiment (allé simple), un conseil prend tes billet en france cest beaucoup moins cher qu'en espagne.
si tu part de lyon normalement en 1 jour et demi té arivé et si vous etes plusieurs a conduire cest encore mieux.
pour dormir sur la route y a pas de souci mais choisi toujours des airs de repos ou y a plein de monde la nuit et raproche toi le plus possible des gens pour dormir meme si les gens la nuit te laisse pas dormir tranquillement, cest toujours mieux que de se faire voler.un super conseil evite de traverser malaga la nuit cest hyper dangereux y a eu plein de vole la bas, oublie pas.
et enfin pour l'autoroute y faudra compter entre 100 et 150e (allé simple).mais a trois je pense que sa devrai allé.
je suis de st-etienne j'y vais aussi, je ferai bien la route avec trois demoiselle 😊
voila je te souhaite bonne route
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Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights) - Aït Ben Haddou (1 night) - Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days) - M'hamid (1 night) - Erg Chigaga (1 night) - 4 nights to slot in - Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question: For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Thanks for your help!
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1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
Fran
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
Fran
hi there,
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
Hi
I’d like to know if the road between Msemrir and Tamttatouchte is doable with a standard car (Dacia Logan).
Thanks a lot
hi,
I’m looking for a country to visit for 10 days in February.
What do you recommend for a trip with some sunshine, hiking, and sightseeing?
Thanks for your help
Thanks for your help
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
Hi there,
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
Hi there!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
hi, I just wanted to know the exchange rate for euros in Tunisia, thanks
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
Hi there,
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili? If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them. I didn’t find any info on the forum. Best,
Fouzi
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili? If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them. I didn’t find any info on the forum. Best,
Fouzi
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there, 🙂
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
Based on your experiences, do you have a professional to recommend?
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi, I'm looking for a taxi from Dakhla airport to downtown Dakhla.
If you know a contact ?????
Hi there,
I’m looking for info about driving a vehicle in Tunisia.
Is it complicated?
Do I need an international driver’s permit?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
It's all in the title.
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.