Je recherche une croisière en Egypte avec ensuite une semaine au bord de la mer rouge, pour le moment avec mon budget je trouve avec arrivée et retour de Louxor, donc sans Le Caire, pour une excusion en autocar combien de kms et temps trajet au départ d Hurghada ???
Si vous pouvez me renseigner aussi si vous avez fait une croisière avec arrivée au Caire avec un séjour à Hurghada pas trop cher !!!
Merci d'avance à tous pour votre aide
En général, les hotels proposent une excurion au Caire avec le trajet en bus ou en avion. A savoir qu'en bus ça vous fait passer 2 nuits sur la route, départ vers minuit, journée de visite suivit de 8h de car pour le retour, arrivée vers minuit/2h du mat.
Vous pouvez aussi prendre l'avion par vous même, beaucoup moins cher (vous pouvez acheter votre billet d'avion avant de partir) et visiter le caire par vous même avec un taxi ou prevoir un guide pour une journée.
liste des sites à visiter aux Caire en bas de la page, circuit 2
http://www.beoglobe.com/p/guide-fr-601-egypte-Francophone-Arabophone.html
le guide est un de mes amis, très professionnel mais vous aurez pas de mal à trouver un guide avant de partir.
Merci beaucoup pour les renseignements très détaillés qui vont bien m'aider pour un premier voyage en Egypte que je rêve de faire depuis longtemps.
Par les agences le visa entre 30 et 50 euros, les pourboires de 21 à 32 euros à deux personnes déjà un petit budget, et les excursions en plus pour son et lumières à Karnak et Philae et Abou Simbel en car 150 euros par personne, et aussi 330 euros
pour Abou Simbel en car ou 80 euros en plus par avion, 1 journée de visites au Caire par avion aller retour Louxor/Le Caire plus ensuite à régler en plus un car Louxor/Hourghada
Pour Le Caire je vais voir tout de suite le prix pour un vol, car 2 nuits dans un bus en plus d'une journée de visites trop fatiguant !!!
Merci encore pour votre aide
Cordialement
En ce qui concerne votre ami guide combien faut il compter pour une journée de visites au Caire à voir suivant les horaires pour l'avion , y a t il des vols aller-retour au départ d' Hurghada/ Le Caire ?
Je désire après la croisière faire une semaine au bord de la mer rouge, mais je viens de lire les messages concernant la plage du club Marmare pas très bien , que pensez vous du Club Azur chez Fram, et du Lookéa Aqua Vista ??? mon voyage est prévu pour fin septembre début octobre
Mais peut être avez vous des renseignements sur un autre tour opérateur qui soit bien pour une croisière avec Le Caire et un séjour en tout compris ???
Heureusement qu'il y a le forum pour nous aider , et pour ne pas se faire avoir comme pour les visas !!!
Bonjour,
pour commencer, le visa, refuser de le payer à l'agence, il coute environ 12€/15$ à l'aéroport, à retirer au bureau de change dans l'aéroport (voir modalité sur mon blog, page info pratique).
Pour la mer rouge, perso, je ne vais qu'à l'hotel framissima club Azur à Makady bay. Il y a accés sur un tombant plein de poissons, smorkeling assuré mais prévoir des chaussons pour marcher sur les cailloux qui mennent au lieux de plongé ( en vente sur place si non), 5 minutes de marche. On y mange bien, je le péfère au royal Azur, juste à coté, une étoile en plus mais animation en anglais et resto sur la plage moins bien.
Pour mon ami, je ne connais pas c'est tarif, ça dépend aussi dès visites que vous voulez faire, contactez le il vous ferra un devis dès qu'il rentrera (actuellement sur le nil avec un groupe)
Fram propose une excursion à la journée au Caire en bus ou avion au choix mais pour l'avoir fait, mosquée mohamed Ali, pyramide de guizeh, musée + souk au pas de course.
Des avion y en a plusieur par jour entre Hurghada et Le caire.
Pour un opérateur, je ne peux vous enparler, fram étant les seuls a revendre l'hotel ou je vais ou le bateau sur lequel je vais, je passe par eux, ou c'est mon ami qui me loge et qui trouve les hôtels quand on voyage.
Le club Azur de Fram est celui que j'ai retenu entre Marmara, Look ,
pour la croisière je pense à La gloire des Pharaons sur bateau Framissima 5* pour 850 euros en 7 nuits et prendre le pack Abou Simbel en car, Le Caire en avion avec une journée de visites, déjeuner inclus pour 330 euros par personne, qu'est ce que vous pensez du prix?
ou Isis sur bateau Framéco Sun Azur 4* pour 1250 euros avec 3 nuits au Caire dont une journée à Alexandrie, et Le Caire /Abou Simbel/ Assouan en avion et 4 nuits en croisière avec programme identique d'Assouan à Louxor mais peut être les visites sont faites plus vite !!!
Il y a le Nil en liberté pour 660 euros mais sans les visites tout en option
Si vous avez fait une croisière avec Fram qu'en pensez vous, pour les visites et les bateaux
Encore une question de Louxor à Hourghada combien de temps de trajet en car
Merci pour votre aide
Pour ma première croisière j'ai fais la gloire des pharaons mais j'ai juste prix l'excursions à Abou simbel + le nocturme sur philaé, Pour le Caire, j'y suis allée depuis hurghada.
Sur la croisière isis, vous avez une journée à Alexandrie qui remplace une journée à Louxor et je pense que pour la journée au Caire, même visite mais moins fatiguant car pas de trajet. la journée à Louxor va être speed.
La croisière nil en liberté est très ben pour ceux qui veulent visiter par eux même et les sites qu'ils veulent, attention pas de guide et prévoir des livres égyptiennes pour payer les tickets d'entrées. Ne pas achetez les excursions avec guide sur via Fram car la je pense que ça vous reviendra beaucoup plus cher.
Si vous prolongez d'une semaine en mer rouge, vous pouvez prendre la gloire des pharaons et prévoir 2 jours au Caire pour faire : le Caire ou le Caire et Alexandrie. Vous pouvez mettre le Caire entre Louxor et la mer rouge ou pendant la 2ème semaine.
Durée du trajet Louxor-Makady Bay : 4h
Pour le choix de la cabine, au milieu si possible coté arrière. trop à l'arrière = bruit et vibration du moteur. Trop à l'avant: bruit des moteurs des bateaux garés devant vous a quai. Si vous êtes des couches tôt évite d'être sous le bar.
Le choix est fait Gloire des Pharaons, Abou Simbel en car, 2 semaines au Club Azur et pendant le séjour Le Caire en car 2 jours 1 nuit en 5 étoiles, visites, 2 déjeuners et 1 dîner inclus pour 155 euros cela me semble correct en prix.
Pour la cabine sur le bateau je viens de regarder le numèro pour réserver suivant vos conseils.
Sur le bateau les boissons sont elles comprises ???
Tout comme mon premier voyage, attention c'est à ce moment là que je suis tombée amoureuse de l'égypte et que depuis je suis une acharnée. lol
Pour les boissons : non elles ne sont pas comprise, quand vous commandez une boisson, on vous fait signer une fiche et vous payer tout à la fin. Pour l'eau, ne laissez pas votre bouteille sur la table à la fin du repas, vous la reverez pas. Pour les bouteilles d'eau, voir l'article consacré à ce sujet sur mon blog dans info utile.
Si à 5heure, vous êtes en navigation, vous aurez droit au thé, gratuit + petits gateaux.
Sur Edfou, le transfert au temple, se fait en bus, plus en calèche.
Vendredi matin, entre rien faire ou demdera, faites demdera, sauf si vous désirez prendre un taxi pour faire des temples ou tombes sur la rive ouest de louxor.
Si vous désirez avoir mon ami ismael comme guide pendant la croisière je peux essayer de le faire programmer sur votre séjour, mais pour ceux contacter moi en message privé.
N'hésitez pas à me contacter.
Pensez à lire la partie sur le visa, moi je paye jamais mon visa à Fram mais toujours sur place. j'ai vu qu'il demandé maintenant les pourboire à l'agence, perso je suis contre, je donne sur place mais c'est une nouveauté de Fram.
Je ne trouve pas comment lire le commentaire de Bastyniz pour les tarifs de l'eau !!!
Avec vos réponses cela donne encore plus envie d'être déjà en Egypte
Je suppose que vous parler des commentaires postés sur la page des info pratiques. Comme Bastyniz à poser plusieur questions, j'essaye de vous faire un copié-collé mais en privé.
I’m heading back to Egypt for the first time in 30 years this July. Last time, I was 20, and we spent two weeks traveling on a shoestring as backpackers.
I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊