Embarquement pour un vol dans l'espace Schengen
by Samusamydamy
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour. Je souhaiterai savoir si au départ d'un vol de la france vers un autre pays de l'espace schengen, en l'occurence l'italie, il faut montrer sa carte d'identité seulement aux hotesses de l'air pour l'embarquement, ou si il faut passer également devant un controle de police? Je sais que normalement il ne faut pas, mais que ca a également etait rétabli avec l'état d'urgence.Qu'en est il actuellement? merci beaucoup. ps: ma carte d'identité est juste très abimé, d'ou la question.
Bonjour
Bonjour
Âpres le passeport déchiré maintenant la carte d'identité Tu a pas de chance avec tes papiers
Déjà les hôtesses de l'air tu les verra uniquement dans l'avion, d'ou leurs noms ( Hôtesses de l'air ) Ta carte tu la présentera pour l'enregistrement au comptoir si tu doit enregistrer des bagages, et éventuellement avec la carte d'embarquement si on te la réclame La police tu les verra point , par contre la sécurité, pour tes bagages cabine et toi
Âpres le passeport déchiré maintenant la carte d'identité Tu a pas de chance avec tes papiers
Déjà les hôtesses de l'air tu les verra uniquement dans l'avion, d'ou leurs noms ( Hôtesses de l'air ) Ta carte tu la présentera pour l'enregistrement au comptoir si tu doit enregistrer des bagages, et éventuellement avec la carte d'embarquement si on te la réclame La police tu les verra point , par contre la sécurité, pour tes bagages cabine et toi
aroythai
Bonjour,
Pour un vol Schengen il n'y a pas de contrôle d'identité par principe, même si en droit il peut y en avoir ponctuellement. Il faudra néanmoins sans doute que vous montriez votre CNI lors de l'embarquement, au personnel au sol qui s'en chargera... Et aussi à l'enregistrement si vous aviez des bagages de soute. C'est quelle compagnie ? C'est quoi, "très abîmée" ? Comme votre passeport ?
Michel
Pour un vol Schengen il n'y a pas de contrôle d'identité par principe, même si en droit il peut y en avoir ponctuellement. Il faudra néanmoins sans doute que vous montriez votre CNI lors de l'embarquement, au personnel au sol qui s'en chargera... Et aussi à l'enregistrement si vous aviez des bagages de soute. C'est quelle compagnie ? C'est quoi, "très abîmée" ? Comme votre passeport ?
Michel
merci pour les réponses! la compagnie, c'est Volotéa. Les bords de la carte se décollent..
Bonjour
Prenez les deux, la carte et le passeport.
Vous verrez bien.
Michel
Michel
A moins que cela ait changé récemment, oui il y a un contrôle des documents d'identité quand on quitte la France (par avion) même vers un pays de l'espace Schengen (et aussi en arrivant en France depuis un pays Schengen). C'est casse-pied car on risque de perdre pas mal de temps dans la queue.
Je l'ai encore vécu il y a moins d'un mois avec un Charleroi-Figari et retour : contrôle des passeports à l'arrivée à Figari et au départ. Je fais demain un Charleroi- Marseille et retour, je verrai si c'est toujours la même chose et je vous en ferai part.
Bon à savoir merci! Mais controle à l'embarquement ou bien par la police des frontières?
Bonjour
Bon à savoir merci! Mais controle à l'embarquement ou bien par la police des frontières?
Par la police des frontières, certainement. Je n'ai jamais pris Volotea, je ne sais pas s'ils contrôlent l'identité à la porte d'embarquement. Pour Ryanair, par exemple, il y a contrôle d'identité à la porte d'embarquement pour vérifier que le nom correspond à celui figurant sur la carte d'embarquement, quelle que soit la destination.
Par la police des frontières, certainement. Je n'ai jamais pris Volotea, je ne sais pas s'ils contrôlent l'identité à la porte d'embarquement. Pour Ryanair, par exemple, il y a contrôle d'identité à la porte d'embarquement pour vérifier que le nom correspond à celui figurant sur la carte d'embarquement, quelle que soit la destination.
Merci oui . C'est plus le contrôle police qui m'inquiète car mes papiers sont vraiment dans un mauvais etat🙂 si vous pouvez le faire un retour demain, vraiment merci beaucoup.
Bonjour
Par la police des frontières, certainement.
A quel titre ?
Michel
A quel titre ?
Michel
Bonjour,
Merci oui . C'est plus le contrôle police qui m'inquiète
Dans l'espace Schengen il n'y en a pas par principe ; il peut juste y en avoir ponctuellement.
Michel
Merci oui . C'est plus le contrôle police qui m'inquiète
Dans l'espace Schengen il n'y en a pas par principe ; il peut juste y en avoir ponctuellement.
Michel
Bon à savoir merci! Mais controle à l'embarquement ou bien par la police des frontières?
Par la police des frontières, certainement.
Bonjour,
Non, c'est un "rapprochement documentaire", c'est-à-dire un contrôle que le billet et la personne correspondent bien, à l'embarquement. Il n'est pas effectué par la police des frontières. C'est ce que j'ai constaté à l'occasion d'un très récent voyage en Italie. Pour cette raison, je ne m’inquiéterais pas pour un document d'identité abîmé.
Comme l'a écrit Tatra, il peut y avoir un contrôle effectué par la police des frontières, mais de mon expérience de voyageur fréquent, ils sont rares.
Par la police des frontières, certainement.
Bonjour,
Non, c'est un "rapprochement documentaire", c'est-à-dire un contrôle que le billet et la personne correspondent bien, à l'embarquement. Il n'est pas effectué par la police des frontières. C'est ce que j'ai constaté à l'occasion d'un très récent voyage en Italie. Pour cette raison, je ne m’inquiéterais pas pour un document d'identité abîmé.
Comme l'a écrit Tatra, il peut y avoir un contrôle effectué par la police des frontières, mais de mon expérience de voyageur fréquent, ils sont rares.
Donc si on résume, le 14 mai tu devais partir "ce week end", soit celui qui vient de passer, tu avais un passeport déchiré et perdu ta CNI avec déclaration de perte, mais tu as repoussé ton voyage (???) et tu a retrouvé ta CNI (???) qui est très très abîmée, et tu as très peur des contrôles de la PAF mais pas de ceux de la compagnie qui pourrait pourtant aussi bien te refuser à l'embarquement... Ajoutons à ça que tu vas prendre l'avion à Toulouse qui est à 400 km de chez toi, alors qu'il était si simple de trouver un vol pour l'Italie beaucoup plus près.
Perso je comprends pas quel est ton réel problème, mais ce qui est sûr c'est que tu racontes beaucoup de salades.
je suis bien arrivé, merci! aucun souci, j'ai demandé a un membre du personnel avant , tant que les infos et la la photo sont visibles, aucun soucis! Seulement un controle a l'embarquement, très rapide. Bonne soirée.
Bonjour
Je l'ai encore vécu il y a moins d'un mois avec un Charleroi-Figari et retour : contrôle des passeports à l'arrivée à Figari et au départ. Je fais demain un Charleroi- Marseille et retour, je verrai si c'est toujours la même chose et je vous en ferai part.
Je rentre de mon CRL-MRS-CRL : contrôle des passeports par la police à l'arrivée à Marseille - mais plus de contrôle par la police au départ de Marseille (contrairement à ce qui se faisait il y a un an).
Je rentre de mon CRL-MRS-CRL : contrôle des passeports par la police à l'arrivée à Marseille - mais plus de contrôle par la police au départ de Marseille (contrairement à ce qui se faisait il y a un an).
Bonjour,
Je rentre de mon CRL-MRS-CRL : contrôle des passeports par la police à l'arrivée à Marseille - mais plus de contrôle par la police au départ de Marseille (contrairement à ce qui se faisait il y a un an).
De même qu'on peut tomber sur un contrôle de douane sur une départementale de Bretagne centrale, à 800 km de toute frontière terrestre, de même il peut y avoir des contrôles de ce type dans les aéroports. Ils ne peuvent pas être fixes et permanents, en tous cas si la France accepte les règles - ce qu'elle ne fait pas toujours, je vous l'accorde. Notez qu'à l'arrivée, le fait que la CNI soit endommagée n'aurait pas eu d'importance.
Michel
Je rentre de mon CRL-MRS-CRL : contrôle des passeports par la police à l'arrivée à Marseille - mais plus de contrôle par la police au départ de Marseille (contrairement à ce qui se faisait il y a un an).
De même qu'on peut tomber sur un contrôle de douane sur une départementale de Bretagne centrale, à 800 km de toute frontière terrestre, de même il peut y avoir des contrôles de ce type dans les aéroports. Ils ne peuvent pas être fixes et permanents, en tous cas si la France accepte les règles - ce qu'elle ne fait pas toujours, je vous l'accorde. Notez qu'à l'arrivée, le fait que la CNI soit endommagée n'aurait pas eu d'importance.
Michel
je suis bien arrivé, merci! aucun souci, j'ai demandé a un membre du personnel avant , tant que les infos et la la photo sont visibles, aucun soucis! Seulement un controle a l'embarquement, très rapide. Bonne soirée.
Merci de nous avoir fait un retour.
Michel
Merci de nous avoir fait un retour.
Michel
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My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!