Nous avons prevu un voyage de 2 semaines au kenya (en individuel) dans un mois mais sommes a ce jour tres inquiet de sa faisabilite.
Toutefois nous persistons dans la decouverte de cette region africaine et nous nous orienterons alors vers la Tanzanie.
Nous sommes un peu "justes" dans la preparation et nous comptons sur les "forumistes" (?) pour nous aider a la meilleure des realisations de notre projet.
plusieurs questions:
comment gagner Arusha de Nairobi?
peut on louer un vehicule sans chauffeur et visiter les parcs en "individuels" (comme nous souhaitions le faire au kenya) ou bien est il preferable de prendre un safari "organise"? quel en serait alors le cout (environ)?
quel est le meilleur itineraire pour visiter les parcs (ou des parcs) en une semaine avec camping?
la 2e semaine serait consacree a Zanzibar? meme question: quel lieu a privilegier (plongee -padi-; plage et cocotiers avec paillotes et tranquillite)?
Retour avion vers Nairobi
Merci a vous pour vos reponses et conseils judicieux. Meilleurs voeux et beaucoup de decouvertes dans l ailleurs.
erge
attend de voir l'évolution de la situation au Kenya!!!!
apparemment, pour l'instant les avions partent a vide pour rappatrier les touristes!!!
Arusha est le terminus d'une voie de chemin de fer qui la relie aux ports de l'océan Indien : Tanga, en Tanzanie et Mombasa, au Kenya.
L'aéroport d'Arusha offre des vols à destination des grands parcs, de Zanzibar et d'autres villes de Tanzanie. L'aéroport international le plus proche est « Kilimanjaro International Airport » distant d'environ 50 kilomètres.
A+
Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
Nairobi / Arushua il y a un bus.
C'est environ 100 USD/120 USD jour mais prevoir une augmentation au 1er Janvier
Obligation de passer par une agence - je pense, seul c'est un peu risqué, les itineraires ne sont pas flechés et il faut faire marcher le commerce local.
JOEL
sur une semaine, je commencerai par Manyara, puis N'Gorongoro, Serengeti, puis, si tu as le temps, Tarangire 😛
Par contre j'abandonnerai l'idée du véhicule sans chauffeur, mieux vaut un 4X4 avec toit ouvrant et son chauffeur qui aura l'experience des safaris, il saura où aller, et il aura sa radio pour se rencarder.
Bonjour /soir,
Votre voyage est dans un mois ..Attendez encore un peu..Rien ne presse.
Profitez en pour vous informer sur la TZ, il y a des guides papier qui traitent ces infos..Nairobi / Arusha..( 25 usd, 5 heures en navette etc ..) Choix des agences, etc ..
Oubliez à votre niveau la location d'un 4X4..(C'est tout à fait autorisé de visiter les parcs seuls..)
Contactez sur place des agences à Arusha, ce n'est pas ce qui manque. Comparez, discutez. Il y a aura toujours un safari pour vous..
Les prix : à partir de 100 usd par pers. et par jour . Basique, en camping.
Les parcs: Arusha NP, Tarangire NP, Manyara NP, Ngorongoro Conservation Area, Serengeti NP. En une semaine, seuls peuvent être envisagés : Arusha, Tarangire, Ngo, et un peu de Serengeti. Restez dans le Sud du parc. ( Ndutu, Seronera, car tout se passe là en février.
Znz : la côte Est.
Bonne année et surtout bonne lecture !
Merci a vous toutes et tous pour vos conseils et suggestions.
L essentiel pour l instant reste une amelioration rapide et saine de la situation au Kenya.
Nous tiendrons compte de vos remarques pour que tout se deroule au mieux. Encore meilleurs voeux.
Bonjour a tous,
Suite aux evenements tragiques qui se deroulent au Kenya, nous avons decide de partir de l'Afrique du Sud et remonter l'Afrique de l'Est plutot que de partir de Nairobi et descendre jusqu'au Cap.
Mais nous avons besoin de conseils: alors que nous pensions finir par l'Afrique du Sud que nous pensions etre le plus coriace des pays de notre voyage du point de vue de la securite (Afr du Sud, Mozambique, Malawi, Tanzanie), on commence par ce pays. Nous sommes a velo. Quelles sont les precautions vitales a prendre? Quels dangers réels nous attendent?
Pensez-vous qu'il existe un risque de propagation des emeutes depuis le Kenya en Tanzanie? La fermeture de frontieres kenyanes avec ses voisins ne risque-t-elle pas d'assecher la region (Burundi, Rwanda, Uganda, etc.) et eventuellement entrainer des risques geo-politiques supplementaires si la situation au Kenya s'enlisait?
Matt
PS:Pour info, nous pensons partir du Cap, prendre la N2 jusqu'a East London puis enchainer Swaziland, Lesotho, Park Kruger avant de rejoindre le Mozambique, le Malawi, la tanzanie et/ou Madagascar.
soyez curieux et solidaires: www.livre-dafrique.com
Bonjour,
Si tu regardes bien la carte Nairobi se trouve très au sud du pays et non loin de la frontière TZ...Donc, vite atteinte.
Les problèmes actuels du Kenya sont strictement kenyans et resteront tels quels.
Les pays comme la TZ ou l' Uganda n'ont rien en commun, si ce n'est la langue et les échanges commerciaux qui ne devront pas être trop longtemps perturbés sous peine de conséquences plus graves, certes.
Mais la comparaison s'arrete là.
Il serait dommage de boulverser vos plans pour l'instant..Il est urgent d'attendre.
Décidément, je me demande si ns avons fait le bon choix ...
1- Le Kenya (espéront qe les jours prochains vont être meilleurs, départ le 18/01 !)
2- Location d'une voiture basique avec le souhait de naviguer en tte liberté et traverser avec cette voiture les parcs ... Cela est-il possible ?
Résidente au Kenya, je me permet de vous donner mon avis sur votre projet, vivant la situation de l'intérieur sur place.
Premièrement, je pense sincerement (du moins j'espere de tout coeur) que la situation sera definitivement stabilisée d'ici le mois prochain. Il est à noter que depuis le debut des evenements, les journalistes ont largement grossi les faits sur place! Bien sur il y a eu des manifestations, des faits inqualifiables...etc mais tout ceci s'est passé dans les bas quartiers et dans certaines régions reculées du Kenya, bien loin des circuits touristiques. Exemple à méditer : Quand nos balieues se sont embrassées, les informations étrangères montraient un pays à feu et à sang, une vrai révolution...alors qu'on en était tout de même trés loin...Notre tourisme a été un peu touché mais à t'on pour autant arreté les arrivées touristiques sur le sol français, a-ton fermé la Tour Eiffel?
Pour être tout à fait franche, j'ai même eu un appel d'un journaliste dont je ne citerais pas la chaîne qui m'a demandé une interview pour savoir ce que l'on vit en tant que résidant...Jour de l'interview en question arrive...et la, le journaliste me rappel pour annuler au seul motif que "il n'y a rien à filmer (rien de croustillant en résumé et qui fait vendre), et que donc il rentre en France"... Il est vrai que cela fait beaucoup moins vendre de voir des touristes sur la plage ou en safari en train de profiter de leurs vacances tranquilement et de m'écouter dire que tout se passe bien!!!
Si vous décidez cependant définitivement de vous orienter vers la Tanzanie, il faut que vous sachiez que les tarifs des lodges et des entrées de parcs sont beaucoup plus élevés. Le prix de votre voyage peux s'en voir doublé.
Sinon, il existe des vols Paris-Kilimandjaro (ou Arusha) via différentes villes.
Concernant la locatoin d'un 4x4 seul...je trouve cela tout à fait inconscient en Afrique si l'on est pas un grand connaisseur du pays, de ses régions...etc (et en lisant vos questions, je vois que vous etes novice 🙂). Un safari necessite une grande connaissance du terrain, un exellent niveau de conduite 4x4 sur les pistes (ca ne s'invente pas si on ne veux pas détruire un véhicule en 24h)...etc
De plus, les chauffeurs et guides sont la pour vous emmener dans les petits endroits ou les animaux ont coutume de se réunir souvent afin que vous en voyez le plus possible, que vous assistiez à des chasses...etc (en effet, les chauffeurs sont tous en contact Talki afin de se filer les petits tuyaux en direct et les lieux interessants en continu)
Vous parlez ensuite de camping...Qu'entendez vous en ce terme??? Les hebergements se font en lodges et camps de tentes, qu'il faut reserver à l'avance (en effet, la Tanzanie possède beaucoup moins d'établissements de brousse que le Kenya, ils sont donc pris d'assaut et les prix s'envolent). Pour information, on ne campe pas en Afrique Noire, sauf si on est exellent tireur et que l'on enmène un véritable matériel de broussard. De plus, les temps de montage et démontage des tentes font perdre un temps fous pour profiter des safaris.
Coté itinéraire, a ne pas manquer : NGORONGORO, TARANGIRE, ARUSHA, MANYARA et bien sur le SERENGETI.
Enfin, concernant Zanzibar, les meilleurs hôtel sont le KARAFUU *****, BREEZE BEACH *****, BLUE BAY***** et THE PALMS *****. Vous etes sur de ne pas être decu dans ces etablisssements.
J'espere avoir repondu à toutes vos questions et me permet de vous deconseiller vivement une dernière fois de partir seul comme vous le souhaitez!
Si vous voulez un safari organisé serieusement avec votre 4x4 privé avec chauffeur/guide, contactez AFRICAN SAFARI DIANI ADVENTURE, qui est spécialisé sur le Kenya/Tanzanie et Zanzibar. Je connais trés bien le responsable francais sur place et c'est une valeure sure 😛. Il vous feront du à la carte.
Concernant le prix, il faut compter 3500€ par personne environ pour 15 jours avec Zanzibar (Zanzibar est hors de prix pour information)
"Vous parlez ensuite de camping...Qu'entendez vous en ce terme??? Les hebergements se font en lodges et camps de tentes, qu'il faut reserver à l'avance (en effet, la Tanzanie possède beaucoup moins d'établissements de brousse que le Kenya, ils sont donc pris d'assaut et les prix s'envolent). Pour information, on ne campe pas en Afrique Noire, sauf si on est exellent tireur et que l'on enmène un véritable matériel de broussard. De plus, les temps de montage et démontage des tentes font perdre un temps fous pour profiter des safaris...''
Bonjour,
Autant les infos que tu donnes du Kenya ( de Diani ) peuvent être intéressantes pour les voyageurs sur le départ, autant les inepties que tu racontes sur le camping au Kenya, la Tanzanie et Zanzibar sont à signaler et à corriger.
Le camping safari au Kenya existe depuis plus de 20ans et en TZ depuis maintenant 15 ans..! ( Voir les TO Terdav, Club Aventure, etc..et les agences locales, pour dire à quel point que ça s'est popularisé.
J'entends par là, dormir sous la tente, en brousse, soit dans des emplacements prévus( payants ) à cet effet par les Parc Nationaux, soit en territoire plus ''ouvert'' en pays Maasai, par exemple, où l'on paie un petit droit au propriètaire, ravi, d'ailleurs.
Etre résidente à Diani, ne t'exempte pas de faire attention à ce que tu dis sur les safaris.
De plus, dire que Zanzibar est hors de prix est aussi faux et réducteur..Que les hotels que tu mentionnes ne sont que des structures de luxe, et qu'il existe quantités de petits hôtels sympas et pas trop chers, même s'ils ont tendance à augmenter.
Enfin, sur le TO copain que tu cites, j'ai lu des trucs moins enthousiastes que toi..
Je ne vais pas perdre mon temps à me justifier suite à vos attaques dans de longues explications mais je souhaite tout de meme remettre les choses à leurs places!
Tout ce que j'ai dit, c'est que ces personnes ne parraissent pas des connaisseurs de l'afrique et qu'il est donc déconseillé de se debrouiller seul de A a Z dans ce cas la! C'est bien beau ce que vous dite concernant le camping mais vous oubliez d'indiquer le nombre de personnes paumées une fois sur place (j'en ai vu car malgrés ce que vous pensez je ne connais pas que Diani...). Je ne disai cela qu'afin que tout se passe au mieux pour eux et non pas se prendre la tête pendant une semaine de vacances quand on est pas un minimum expérimenté!
Il faut remettre les choses dans leur contexte!
Mais si vous pensez qu'il est serieux de partir ainsi seul sans aucune conaissance de l'Afrique, des pistes, des 4x4, de la géographie précise, de lieux de passage des frontières, des entrées des parcs...etc...sans un minimum de prise en charge par un TO...je m'incline!
Je pense surtout que votre réponse n'etait qu'un mail de contradiction bete et mechant, sans aucune profondeur! Comme je le repete, il faut bien relire ce que j'ai écrit par rapport au message de base!
Concernant Zanzibar, il est vrai qu'il existe d'autres établissements moins chers...Ce que j'ai mis n'etait qu'a titre indicatif avec les etablissements que je connais plus personnelement.
Enfin, concernant le TO cité, je ne suis pas la pour un combat d'interets à savoir si selon X ou Y il est bon ou pas!
Tout TO a ses detracteurs, ses eternels insatisfaits et ses "fans"!
1° Relis la dernière partie de ton post sur le camping en ''Afrique Noire''( tes termes..) C'est la dessus que je réagis.
2° Oui, je dis que l'on peut partir seul ( sans TO ) au Kenya et en Tanzanie SI l'on a bien préparé son voyage.
A savoir, posseder un carte, un bon guide papier son matériel et un esprit d'autonomie et un peu de temps.
Ce n'est certes pas conseillé aux gens habitués au voyage organisé, mais on peut le faire. Seule la réserve de Maasai Mara et une partie du Tsavo est à déconseiller aux débutants. Il faut prendre un guide ou un ranger. Mais, Nakuru, Naivasha ( pas un parc, ni réserve ) Lake Bogoria, et Lake Baringo, sont faisables seuls.
Quant aux parcs TZ du Nord, Serengeti et NGo j'ai toujours dit qu'il est préfarable de prendre un chauffeur / guide pour une meilleure visite, mais il est parfaitement possible d'être indépendants. ( Arusha NP, Manyara..)
Ne te fais pas un monde d'un passage de frontière..Ni pour une entrée de parc, tout est clairement expliqué avec le prix des entrées, etc ..( N'est- ce pas ? !😉)
Je n'ai pas pour habitude de répondre pour le plaisir de la contadiction, ( prends quelques instants et lis mes modestes posts ) je rectifie uniquement les âneries que tu racontes..Pour les candidats à l'aventure, bien préparés.
Cel dit, je conseille aussi regulièrement l'intervention d'agences locales pour les autres qui représentent la majorité.
Merci pour ton message en reponse a nos quelques inquietudes sur la poursuite ou non de notre projet de voyage au kenya dans 4 semaines. Loin de moi au travers de mes questions la volonte de susciter les debats developpes plus loin.
Novices certes pour cette region d afrique mais pas trop cependant par rapport a notre petite experience et de l afrique et des voyages: voici plus de 30 ans je decouvrai les boudhas de bamyan et les lacs de bandyamir apres m y etre rendu avec une bonne et vielle "anglia" (les connaisseurs apprecieront) et depuis mon epouse et moi mm n avons cesse de voyager aux 4 coins du monde avec nos enfants et tjs en voyage dit "individuel" (tout en ne cessant jms d etre en compagnie de nos hotes accueillant..). Pour l afrique nous l avons parcourue en "novice" durant des annees pendant nos vacances du mali au zimbabwe, en passant par la namibie, le mozambique, la haute et la basse volta (!), le malawy, le benin et autre bostwana... et tjs avec notre toile de tente, un vehicule avec ou sans 4 roues motrices sur le goudron la piste les dunes et tjs accueillis avec sourire et chaleur, montrant notre volonte de comprendre et de partager l afrique. Sauf que rien ne s y fait dans la precipitation et sans preparation et que si la prise de risque existe de facon evidente il ne faut rien laisser au hasard (et ce dernier reste constamment present en afrique). Je tiens a ajouter que nos budgets ont tjs ete des plus serres et que les hotels 5 etoiles ne font pas partie de nos habitudes et de notre culture.
Au travers de mes questions sur une eventuelle translation de notre projet du kenya en tanzanie j ai simplement voulu obtenir quelques infos de dernieres minutes afin que nous etudions la faisabilite du mm projet de voyage a l identique en tanzanie... ca ne semble pas le cas (difficulte d autonomie que nous preferons et pronons et donc difficulte de camping ou de bivouac comme nous l entendons-je reste persuade qu il reste fort possible de voyager en individuel au kenya et que monter soit mm sa tente n empeche en rien la rencontre avec les animaux...-; autre probleme le cout exorbitant des safaris...).
Donc il est presque evident que nous allons annuler notre projet pour l instant en souhaitant vivement que la situation s ameliore pour le peuple kenyan et que notre toile de tente pourra nous y heberger au plus tot.
Merci encore a toutes et tous pour vos lettres.
Oui, je dis que l'on peut partir seul ( sans TO ) au Kenya et en Tanzanie SI l'on a bien préparé son voyage.
A savoir, posseder un carte, un bon guide papier son matériel et un esprit d'autonomie et un peu de temps.
C'est que tu appelles une bonne préparation ? Wowwwww ! LOL
Oui, bien préparer son voyage au Kenya par exemple, (pays que tu ne connais pas ..) consiste à étudier son itinéraire, lire beaucoup de guides papier, croiser les infos, choisir ses parcs en fonction de la saison, et s'occuper de l'hébergement. Facile au Kenya, si l'on souhaite de : 1° camper en indépendant dans les espaces prévus pour.
2° Réserver ou non, une chambre dans un petit lodge ou un banda. Le choix est vaste. Tous les budgets. Safari ou balnéaire.
On peut louer son véhicule 4X4 ou non à Nairobi. Le matériel dedans et c'est tout..
Ca te va ? Ou faut il encore des explications ?
Une dernière chose : laisser les préjugés derrière.
Oui, bien préparer son voyage au Kenya par exemple, (pays que tu ne connais pas ..) consiste à étudier son itinéraire, lire beaucoup de guides papier, croiser les infos, choisir ses parcs en fonction de la saison, et s'occuper de l'hébergement. Facile au Kenya, si l'on souhaite de : 1° camper en indépendant dans les espaces prévus pour.
2° Réserver ou non, une chambre dans un petit lodge ou un banda. Le choix est vaste. Tous les budgets. Safari ou balnéaire.
On peut louer son véhicule 4X4 ou non à Nairobi. Le matériel dedans et c'est tout..
Ca te va ? Ou faut il encore des explications ?
Une dernière chose : laisser les préjugés derrière.
Euh, tu es sure que c'est bien kenyaman qui dit des aneries? Il me semble que vous aussi.
Pour info mon meilleur ami est pilote pour les flyings doctors à Nairobi alors des idiots comme vous il en voit à longueur d'annee en rapatriement express. Mais merci, avec vos conseils vous faites son chiffre d'affaire.
Donc reprenons, pour une premiere visite du Kenya:
Non le camping à l'européenne n'est pas possible, on ne sort pas de sa voiture n'importe où en depliant sa tente. Sauf bien sur si vous voulez vous faire manger par un lion ou pietiner par un buffalo.
Donc pour un premier voyage c'est d'office dans un lodge. Et pas de discussion.
Enfin si on veut voir les animaux sans être jamais allé au Kenya il faut passer par un guide, généralement masai qui vous conduira aux meilleurs endroits, aux meilleurs moments.
Des questions?
'' Non le camping à l'européenne n'est pas possible, on ne sort pas de sa voiture n'importe où en depliant sa tente.
Sauf bien sur si vous voulez vous faire manger par un lion ou pietiner par un buffalo.
Donc pour un premier voyage c'est d'office dans un lodge. Et pas de discussion. ''
Ah ! Ah ! Tu es un comique toi ..! Et c'est du lourd ! 😉
Pour ta gouverne ou ton info : on peut camper dans TOUS les parcs nationaux et les réserves du Kenya, d'Amboseli à Samburu, et même au lac Turkana que je connais bien.
A Mara, il y a au moins dix emplacements de camping..Ils se trouvent en général aux abords des entrées.
Dubitatif ? Tape sur n'importe quel moteur de recherche et tu auras des centaines de références..
Ouvres n'importe quel guide papier, et tu auras toutes les infos.
On peut aussi camper en dehors, en brousse après accord et petit paiement aux propriétaires.
Enfin, ( pour l'anecdote) je campe depuis 20 ans au Kenya et en Tanzanie...
Bye ! 😎
bonjour,
Je peux répondre au moins à une question, celle du parc en individuel .Avec ma femme et ma fille de 10 ans, nous avons fait un périple de 5 mois en fourgon et tentes, importes de France .Je te conseille le parc du lac Manyara, cela nous a couté 120 $ tout compris pour la journée .Les pistes sont praticables en général, on s'est ensablé une fois, et grace à nos plaques on s'en est sorti, mais pas d'inquiétude, il y passe queques 4x4 pour aider sinon .On a campé au campsite Jambo à Mto Wa Mbu, petit village, 5 km avant le parc, 20 $ la nuit pour planter les tentes .Pour vous donner un avant gout de ce qui vous attend et un peu de reve aussi, visitez notre site : http://www.lesvoyageursnatures.net
Vous y trouverez des infos, adresses, photos, liens vers des clips vidéos .Bonne visite et à bientot .
"L'émerveillement est le premier pas vers le respect , le deuxième est la connaissance , la protection sera le troisième"
Nicolas Hulot revisité par f. Besnard
Bonjour
Il faut deja se dire une chose, en Afrique on ne sait jamais quand ca commence et surtout jamais quand ca fini. Qui pensait que la Sierra Leone jouerait les coupeur de mains, que la Cote d'Ivoire serait en ebulition... C'est cyclique. Il faut etre prudent c'est vrai. La Tanz ne bougera pas, a ma connaissance, mais Bush arrivant dans quelques jours (le president Tanz est le nouveau boss de l'Union Africaine), qu'est ce qui se passera apres, on n'en sait rien.
Mais si vous pousser sur la cote ouest de la Tanz, je serai heureux de votre preter un bout de jardin pour votre tente.
Si vous voulez prendre un guide local en Tanzanie je peux vous donner les coordonnées de quelqu'un que m'ont recommandé des amis après leur voyage en juin 2007...
faites-moi signe
Nous avons prevu un voyage de 2 semaines au kenya (en individuel) dans un mois mais sommes a ce jour tres inquiet de sa faisabilite.
Toutefois nous persistons dans la decouverte de cette region africaine et nous nous orienterons alors vers la Tanzanie.
Nous sommes un peu "justes" dans la preparation et nous comptons sur les "forumistes" (?) pour nous aider a la meilleure des realisations de notre projet.
plusieurs questions:
comment gagner Arusha de Nairobi?
peut on louer un vehicule sans chauffeur et visiter les parcs en "individuels" (comme nous souhaitions le faire au kenya) ou bien est il preferable de prendre un safari "organise"? quel en serait alors le cout (environ)?
quel est le meilleur itineraire pour visiter les parcs (ou des parcs) en une semaine avec camping?
la 2e semaine serait consacree a Zanzibar? meme question: quel lieu a privilegier (plongee -padi-; plage et cocotiers avec paillotes et tranquillite)?
Retour avion vers Nairobi
Merci a vous pour vos reponses et conseils judicieux. Meilleurs voeux et beaucoup de decouvertes dans l ailleurs.
erge
Bonjour, j'envisage de voyager seule et de visiter quelques parcs en Tanzanie au mois d'aout 2008 : votre proposition de coordonnées d'un guide m'interesse, pouvez vous me les transmettre ?
Bonjour,
je me rends en Tanzanie/Kenya/Éthiopie en Mars/Avril.
Votre proposition de guide m'intéresse, pouvez vous me faire parvenir les coordonnées.
Merci d'avance.
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Il y a déja un fil sur le sujet mais c'est parti en debat Geo Politique ce qui n'est pas ce que je recherche. En fait je cherche des temoignages de personnes…
Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
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Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?