Je viens de voir ceci, perso je trouve cela très déplacer et manque de respect jusque où la bêtise s'arrêtera . J'aimerai avoir vos avis la dessus .--
En Thaïlande, on paie 300 000 dollars pour bien manger et voir des pauvres .
Un restaurant de Bangkok organisera le mois prochain un dîner de 300.000 dollars préparé par des chefs français pour ses meilleurs clients mais seulement après les avoir emmenés voir la pauvreté dans le nord-est de la Thaïlande.
La chaîne des hôtels Lebua qui, l'année dernière, avait organisé un dîner somptueux ayant coûté 29.000 dollars à chaque participant, a annoncé son intention d'emmener le 5 avril 50 clients prestigieux dans la province de Surin pour voir un camp d'éléphants et les difficultés de la vie dans cette région, l'une des plus pauvres de Thaïlande . Suite ICI .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
j'allais justement poster cette article!!!
Vraiment du n'importe quoi....
Regarder la misère du monde et venais savourer de bons petits plats dans notre super restau.
Et puis après si vous en avez envie...investissez...pas forcement dans ce village ni dans ce pays!
N'importe quoi!!!!!!!!!
il y a ceux qui rêvent de partir et ceux qui partent!
Barbot je suis bien d'accord avec toi mais n'est ce pas ce que fais chaque touriste a sa petite echelle? Comment crois tu que l'on te vois quand tu viens de depenser 3 ou 4 mois de salaire d'un ouvrier local en billet d'avion juste pour venir ballader en asie?
Il y a surement une oeuvre de charite liee a cet evenement. En tout cas je l'espere.
Barbot je suis bien d'accord avec toi mais n'est ce pas ce que fais chaque touriste a sa petite echelle? Comment crois tu que l'on te vois quand tu viens de depenser 3 ou 4 mois de salaire d'un ouvrier local en billet d'avion juste pour venir ballader en asie?
Oui mais les petits touristes font profiter le commerce local et ils sont bien content de voir défiler tous ces touristes, je me souviens lors du SRAS et de la grippe aviaire pendant deux mois il y avait plus grand monde, j'y étais à Phuket à ce moment là c'était impressionnant de voir le vide .
Il y a surement une oeuvre de charite liee a cet evenement. En tout cas je l'espere.
C'est pas ce qu'ils disent dans l'article je te joint un copier/coller . 🤪
"""""""Contrairement au dîner à 29.000 dollars par personne du 10 février 2007, aucune somme ne sera versée cette fois à des organisations caritatives et c'est Lebua qui paiera la note du repas préparé par les chefs français Jean-Michel Lorain, Michel Trama et Alain Soliveres qui totalisent entre eux huit étoiles au guide Michelin.""""""""
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Bien que je ne connaisse pas encore la Thailande...... mais cette opération serait aussi choquante dans bcp d'autres pays...!!!
De plus, je ne trouve pas cette opération tres honorifique pour les "Chefs Français"..!!!!!!
Bien sur..... leur compte en banque va surement apprécier.... lui.... cette opéartion..!!!
Bon .... sur -ce...... on mange quoi ce soir..??? .....!!!!!!
Contrairement au dîner à 29.000 dollars par personne du 10 février 2007, aucune somme ne sera versée cette fois à des organisations caritatives et c'est Lebua qui paiera la note du repas préparé par les chefs français Jean-Michel Lorain, Michel Trama et Alain Soliveres qui totalisent entre eux huit étoiles au guide Michelin
Je me méfie des oeuvres caritatives organisées. Il y a souvent des prélèvements occultes et la totalité des sommes recueillies ne sont pas tout distribuées.
Par contre, dans ce diner qui réunit des personnes très riches, je suis sur qu'il y aura des parrainages et des adoptions à caractère individuel et l'existence de ce diner fait parler des pauvres comme une sorte de publicité qui va atteindre le coeur des âmes charitables.
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
🙂 comme toi je trouve " l'opération bouffe" un peu dure à digérer !! 😠😠
mais, et oui mais !.... elle a le mérite d'être publique, la preuve nous débattons sur ce sujet !
est ce plus grave, parce que outrancière dans la formule : que certaines actions commerciales réalisées dans moins de transparence ???? à l'argent que nous versons les uns et les autres pour des actions de soutien et qui finalement " peut " servir à acheter des Lexus ?
entre nous, je connais des enfants Thailandais et les personnes qui s'occupent d'eux qui avec le prix d'1 seul repas auraient eu l'impression de gagner au loto !! 😏😏
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
les petits ruisseaux font les grandes rivières !
je crois beaucoup plus aux petites actions directes, sans intermédiaires ..........
je serais curieuses de savoir à quoi et à qui vont servir les milliards dont tu parles, je pense que le gateau sera bien émietté avant la distribution au plus nécessiteux !
Mais il faut reconnaître que les dons de cette nature sont aussi louables, et tant mieux s'ils existent - c 'est juste leur utilisation qui me dérange -
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
Si tu connais toutes les maisons d'enfants dans le monde entier qui vivent grâce à l'argent de Georges Soro, tu changera d'opinion.
ok! ok
si tu connaissais toutes les petites écoles de villages ruraux, de dispensaires qui ne survivent que grâce à quelques dons et à la volonté de quelques personnes etc... etc ...
M. Ohri prédit un bon accueil. "Si je suis pauvre et je vois des riches arriver, je me réjouis car, enfin, il y a au moins quelqu'un qui vient me voir."
😠🏴☠️ on aura tous lu ( pour ne pas dire tous entandu) a quand un bon resto au fouquet apres la visite de la citée des quatre mille ha zut notre president l'a dejas fait 🤪 et en plus ils auraient plus a gagné a manger la bas ils decouvriraient peut etre quelque chose de nouveau et a moindre frais
vive la douceure thai et leurs piments hai hai hai
Comment peut on cautionner une telle betise et un tel gachit surtout que je suis certain que les restes (jetés ???) seront aussi nombreux que les marioles qui viendront se presenter derriere leur assiettes en attendant de faire servir;
Bref, la betise n'a decidement pas de prix !!!!!😕
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
Comment peut on cautionner une telle betise et un tel gachit surtout que je suis certain que les restes (jetés ???) seront aussi nombreux que les marioles qui viendront se presenter derriere leur assiettes en attendant de faire servir;
Bref, la betise n'a decidement pas de prix !!!!!😕
Oui comme tu dis mais en tout cas je pense que LA MISERE N'EST PAS UN SPECTACLE
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Si les riches ne voient pas la misère, comment peuvent-ils s'en rendre compte?
La misère n'est pas une honte, ni la richesse d'ailleurs.
Les conditions hasardeuses font que je peux naitre dans la misère mais je peux m'en sortir. Pareil pour les riches, ils peuvent aussi s'émouvoir devant la misère et adopter des comportements plus humbles.
Personne n'a le monopole du coeur. J'ai paraphrasié quelqu'un?🙂
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
Si les riches ne voient pas la misère, comment peuvent-ils s'en rendre compte?
La misère n'est pas une honte, ni la richesse d'ailleurs.
Les conditions hasardeuses font que je peux naitre dans la misère mais je peux m'en sortir. Pareil pour les riches, ils peuvent aussi s'émouvoir devant la misère et adopter des comportements plus humbles.
Personne n'a le monopole du coeur. J'ai paraphrasié quelqu'un?🙂
La misère n'est une honte, être pauvre non plus
Mais on n'a pas à aller les voir comme des animaux au zoo !
Si les riches ne voient pas la misère, comment peuvent-ils s'en rendre compte?
La misère n'est pas une honte, ni la richesse d'ailleurs.
Les conditions hasardeuses font que je peux naitre dans la misère mais je peux m'en sortir. Pareil pour les riches, ils peuvent aussi s'émouvoir devant la misère et adopter des comportements plus humbles.
Personne n'a le monopole du coeur. J'ai paraphrasié quelqu'un?🙂
🙂Là, je suis d'accord avec Abalone...c'est la première fois d'ailleurs!😛
Mais on n'a pas à aller les voir comme des animaux au zoo !
Qui est-ce qui vous dit que ces riches viennent voir les pauvres comme des animaux au zoo? Vous interprétez de façon abusive, l'article de 20 minutes qui dit: "le 5 avril 50 clients prestigieux dans la province de Surin pour voir un camp d'éléphants et les difficultés de la vie dans cette région, l'une des plus pauvres de Thaïlande"Les riches peuvent se le payer à New York ou à Londres, un tel repas sans se rendre compte qu'ils pourraient faire un petit geste!Le petit geste de la Fondation Bill Gates c'est 35 Milliards de dollars pour les pauvres.
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
C'est ce que j'allais dire : si derrière il y a un geste de développement significatif : mai pen rai. (si c'est une œuvre caritative : mai me pan haa)
Si leur argent est consacre aux gens qu'ils voient : je pense que les gens s'en foutent d'être regardes s'ils peuvent avoir un revenu... (pareil pour les femmes girafes par exemple... même cas -ou presque-...).
Quand on est pauvre, on peut tout essayer de vendre hélas...🙁🙁🙁
mai pen rai krap
j'ecrit sur clavier américain désolé pour les accents...
Désolé, mais tu peux tout essayer de vendre... tout... Pour tous ceux qui sont dans la difficulté bien sur... Tu fais des emprunts aux motorbikes... (taux de 20%)
"Les certains" sont nombreux.
Mai pen rai si tu ne me crois pas....🙁🙁🙁
mai pen rai krap
j'ecrit sur clavier américain désolé pour les accents...
lesriches ne vont voir les pauvres QUE pour se faire de la pub...
les pauvres il y en a dans tout les pays et tous le monde s en fout!!
le reste c que de la communication!!
"c'est seulement quand on a tout perdu qu'on est libre de faire ce que l'ont veut"
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
Je viens de voir ceci, perso je trouve cela très déplacer et manque de respect jusque où la bêtise s'arrêtera . J'aimerai avoir vos avis la dessus .--
En Thaïlande, on paie 300 000 dollars pour bien manger et voir des pauvres .
"Charité bien ordonnée commence par soi-même"
Ce pays apprécie les soirées consacrées à la générosité autour d'un dîner-spectacle.
A grand renfort de médias, ils se réunissent de préférence dans les plus prestigieux hôtels.
Puis tour à tour viennent s'afficher devant les caméras avec un chèque surdimensionné (1 m x 0, 50 m) pour qu'il n'échappe pas aux objectifs.
Dans cette course au sourire, c'est à celui qui donnera le plus.
Les sommes peuvent atteindre de jolies performances, jusqu'à 350 millions de baht (environ 7, 5 millions d'euros) !
De l'autre, s'il fallait leur dire de verser à long terme quelques pourcentages sur leurs revenus ça ferait un tollé.
A ce titre, l'éphèmére roi Rama VIII en avait déjà à son époque sûrement payé les conséquences. Mais ceci est une autre histoire...
Pour du mauvais gout, c'est la palme.
Scandaleux et ecoeurant.
Les gugusses qui s'envoit des geuletons a de tels prix ne me paraissent pas etre ceux qui se sentent concernes pas la misere du monde.
Les cas de riches donnateurs sont exceptionnels.
Je suis assistante sociale en orphelinat depuis des annees et actuellement je bosse dans un etablissement qui accueillent des petits coreens particulierement demunis (la derniere etape avant l'HP ou la prison)
je peux temoigner du fait que les donnateurs les plus frequents sont ceux qui ont les revenus les plus moyens.
Ceci est vrai dans les pays developpes comme dans les plus pauvres.
Une seule de ces additions permettrait a un de " mes petits loulous " d'avoir une vie decente jusqu'a son entree en middle school.
J'ai beau avoir 15 ans de metier, ce genre d'initiative me revolte toujours autant.
" Veux tu vivre heureux ? Voyages avec 2 sacs. L'un pour donner, l'autre pour recevoir."
Johann Wolfang Von Goethe
Si l'espèce humaine progresse plus ou moins...
Elle a encore fort à faire avec d'autre forme de criminalité !
Pas celle abrupte que l'on connaît tous, plutôt avec ceux qui larmoyants d'un coté manient "l'Ecole des cyniques" au-delà de son paroxysme.
La, desolee je ne comprend pas tout.
Est ce une attaque personnelle ?
Si c'est le cas je ne vois pas en quoi cela fait avancer les choses pour les lecteurs.
Je croyais que le forum etait un lieu ou chacun pouvait donner ses avis en respectant ceux des autres. Son but est peut etre quand meme de s'apporter quelque chose de positif et pas de se faire taper dessus.
Admettez Mr Iradium que l'on puisse avoir un avis different du votre tout en le respectant.
Mais revenons aux faits :
Aucun benefice de cette soiree n'ira a une aide quelquonque, c'est bien ecrit sur l'article.
Donc apparemment rien a voir avec les soirees-spectacles tout a fait louables que vous mentionnez.
" Veux tu vivre heureux ? Voyages avec 2 sacs. L'un pour donner, l'autre pour recevoir."
Johann Wolfang Von Goethe
Il y a quelques mois, j'aurais ete choquee d'un tel article. Maintenant que je cotoie la misere au quotidien et que j'ai quitte l'Europe, je relativise.
En effet, avant de juger de la decence ou de l'indecence d'une telle initiative, je pense qu'il faut essayer de comprendre la mentalite des asiatiques et les retombees possibles qui vont suivre.
Comme le dit Abalone, dans ces diners, chacun vient avec son gros cheque surdimensionne pour que tout le monde voie dans l'entourage et parfois meme a la tele qu'il est riche et a reussi. L'homme riche se sent important de par sa situation et le pauvre pourra en profiter.
Il est dit dans l'article, d'apres vos commentaires car je n'arrive pas a le telecharger, qu'il ne sera verse aucune indemnite a des associations caritatives. Mais il n'est pas specifie que rien ne sera verse a personne. C'est bien entendu possible, mais cela m'etonnerait. Il faut quand meme se souvenir que les convives bouddhistes qui participeront a ce festin ont bien ancre en eux le fait qu'il faut aider son prochain selon ses moyens. Je crois et j'espere sincerement que ce diner mediatique reveillera leur foi et leur rappellera leurs obligations.
Quant a aller voir les pauvres comme au zoo, rien ne dit dans l'article que les visites se feront d'une maniere meprisante ou stupide. Ici, lorsque nous allons dans la montagne pour montrer aux touristes les pauvres dans les villages, meme si certains d'entre eux ont des reactions stupides, la plupart ont la conscience en eveil et profitent de l'occasion qui leur est offerte pour faire un don. Meme s'il ne s'agit que de quelques milliers de dongs, cela constitue un apport appreciable pour les villageois et ils s'en rejouissent. L'important est de mettre un petit plus dans l'assiette et au final, celui qui est le plus a plaindre est celui qui arrive avec des attitudes et des pensees negatives et meprisantes. Pour les gens d'ici, ce n'est que la promesse d'une prochaine vie difficile car ils auront a y apprendre l'humilite.
300 000 dollars meme pour des riches ca me parait enorme, faut voir ce qu'il est prévu de faire avec les fonds récoltés... de toute façon les oeuvres de charité reste une occupation comme une autre pour les gens fortunés... et l'aide humanitaire est un buziness comme les autres, cela fait travailler des personnes et les organisations ont bien souvent des frais de fonctionnement enorme...
ce qui est sur c'est que ce genre d'action ne change pas la donne...
il ne sera verse aucune indemnite a des associations caritatives
Supposons que l'argent de cette année ne sera versée à aucune oeuvre caricative. Il va donc dans la proche des propriétaires de la chaine hôtel Lebua, après avoir bien sur payé les chefs de cuisine français et les frais d'organisation de ce diner.
Par contre, les convives riches qui viennent à ce diner ont pris la peine d'aller affronter la misèse pour s'en rendre compte. Pour moi, c'est un acte louable et non un acte de voyarisme primaire (comme dans un zoo).
Il est dit dans l'article aussi que 50 autres convives se contentent seulement de se payer ce repas, sans avoir pris la peine de venir rendre visite aux pauvres.
A vous de juger ces deux groupes de gens riches.
Personnellement, je ne critique pas ceux qui n'ont pas le courage d'aller à Surin, ils sont riches, ils dépensent librement comme ils veulent. Proportiellement, chacun est plus riche que quelqu'un d'autre. Le touriste qui se paie un voyage en avion en Thailande est infiniment plus riche que beaucoup de thailandais qui essaient de leur arnaquer quelques baths pour vivre et on en fait un scandale.
Je loue par contre le courage de ceux qui vont à Surin pour se rendre compte de la misère des autres. Ils ont au moins un penchant pour le prochain, si ce n'est pas par l'argent (on n'en sait rien mais au vu de ce que les milliardaires donnent dans les oeuvres caricatives et de développement à long terme certains pays d'Afrique, on peut avoir une certaine pensée positive), ce serait un pincement au coeur qu'ils vont avoir. Il n'est pas évident d'aller voir des images de ce qui peut paraitre très choquant. Oser le faire, c'est déjà chapeau.
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
L'important est de mettre un petit plus dans l'assiette et au final, celui qui est le plus a plaindre est celui qui arrive avec des attitudes et des pensees negatives et meprisantes. Pour les gens d'ici, ce n'est que la promesse d'une prochaine vie difficile car ils auront a y apprendre l'humilite.
Maman,
Tout compte fait, tu perces l'abcès de ce qui échappe à beaucoup de chez nous autres en occident. 🙂
Désolé, mais tu peux tout essayer de vendre... tout... Pour tous ceux qui sont dans la difficulté bien sur... Tu fais des emprunts aux motorbikes... (taux de 20%)
"Les certains" sont nombreux.
Mai pen rai si tu ne me crois pas....🙁🙁🙁
Kaaa, khun kong JAI DEE, chan kong JAI RAI
Merci ka, khun pra'ek
En Thaïlande, on paie 300 000 dollars pour bien manger et voir des pauvres...
Le titre est volontairement choquant, très racoleur même, et trahit la réalité du texte qui le suit. Est-ce l'AFP ou 20 minutes qui a choisi les mots ? A mon avis, 20 minutes qui a besoin de publicité, donc de lecteurs, et n'est pas regardant sur l'exactitude des titres.
Un restaurant pour millionnaires avec la présence de grands chefs organise un dîner de gala qui comprend une visite à une région agricole pauvre. On aime les éléphants et le "message" sera perçu par les 50 millionnaires qui auront déboursé une somme considérable (le prix est assez confus, évoquant 300000$ pour ce dîner et 29000$ par personne pour le précédent...).
Même si rien n'est reversé au camp visité, il peut y avoir des retombées de l'un ou l'autre participant.
Les convives ne vont pas payer pour voir des pauvres. Ils vont faire l'effort d'aller visiter un camp à l'occasion d'un dîner. Y a t'il un lecteur qui s'imagine que les millionnaires s'ouvrent l'appétit à l'odeur de la misère ??? Soyons sérieux 5 minutes (pas 20 !)
"Notre liberté est menacée par le besoin de sécurité ..... et la sécurité elle-même est menacée par le souci obsédant qu'on en a."
Norbert Bensaïd
bonjour! j'apprecie ta sagesse.De plus avant, lors;et apres ce repas beaucoup de gens, tous les petits metiers qui peuvent venir se greffer sur cet evenement en profiteront et je suis sure que ces visiteurs de luxe feront des actions en faveur des demunis, c'est toujours mieux que rien!
Moi je trouve étonnant que nounours rose n'ait pas encore réagi !!!
Nounours, il est trop occupe, contrairement a certains qui au fin fond de l issan passent leurs temps a caresser le cul des vaches et a parler metaphysique avec les pequenauds du coin😛.
ps: cela dit j aimerais bien avoir la liste des gens qui participent a ce diner de c*n.
qu'est ce que tu veux Marco???!!!!
tout le monde ne va pas a Nan!!!!!!!! tout le monde ne voit pas la réalitéeeeeeeeeee...................
A+
Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
😉Fait attention Marco,
trop de raison tue la raison!!!!!!!!!!!!
j'ai aussi les larmes qui coulent mais on peut rien y changer, ils sont comme ça, et c'est comme ça qu'on les apprécissssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A+
Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
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Bonjour,
Je voulais visiter le matin les plantations avec getyourguide ou en étant sur place
Combien de temps prévoir réellement ?
Je voulais reprendre un bus soit celui de 15h ou celui de 17h pour KL
Merci
Hi! I’d like to split my trip into two parts: 15 days in Phuket and 15 days in Krabi. Do you know if I can rent a car and drop it off in Krabi when I fly back to France?
Thanks for your feedback!
Have a great Sunday!
Martine
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hello,
After 1 night in Khao Sok, I’d like to find a 2 Days 1 Night package on the lake.
After reading a lot, I decided to "break the bank" and treat ourselves to a private tour—mainly to avoid the crowds.
But after contacting several operators, they offer "private tours" that are very expensive (around 700 €), yet in the details, the boats can only leave from the pier at 10 AM like everyone else. (I was hoping to leave much earlier.) The morning program is the same for everyone too (private or not). They drop us off at noon at our floating hotel (I’d chosen Phupha Waree). Free afternoon (swimming or kayaking in front of the hotel). We head back by boat for a 1-hour sunset ride. And the next morning, we leave the hotel at 8 AM to be at the pier by 9:30 AM at the latest—end of the trip.
So basically, we’re paying a lot for a private tour just to do the same thing as everyone else at the same time.
Or maybe I just had bad luck in my search.
I contacted Panida Ladi, who’s very popular on forums. We’d agreed on a private tour that matched my request (departure from the pier at 8 AM, very personalized itinerary). We settled on the itinerary and price, she asked for a Wise transfer for a 30% deposit, confirmed receipt of the deposit. Then 30 minutes later, she messaged me to say she was canceling everything because it was impossible to do the requested tour—and promised a quick refund of my deposit.
So here’s my question: Who’s done a *real* private tour on this lake? Who can recommend a reliable agency? Is it even really possible to do a private tour here?
Hi,
I wanted to get some info about the cable car and the bridge—I see lots of different options...
How much time should we allow for these two activities? If we arrive around 4 PM, will we have enough time to visit without rushing?
Thanks
I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot.
If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
Thanks for your advice and opinions!
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
