Endroit jeune et festif à Cebu? (Philippines)
by Sucré
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Je prend avion demain pour cebu depuis Boracay.
Je recherche un coin plutôt jeune et festif ( sans fille pro) je pense me diriger vers alona beach sur bohol.
Que me conseillez vous?
C'est quoi jeune et festif?????
et les filles pro????
Tu as vraiment besoin de conseils sur les philippines!!!
Les Pinays aiment les vieux festifs !!😉
Si je devais comparer avec la Thaïlande je dirai que je cherche un endroit comme Koh phangan ou Koh tao.
Sinon par fille pro j entends prostitué, si je peu éviter le Pattaya local c est parfait!
Alona beach c'est ni Koh Tao, ni phangan, y'a aussi du sable blanc mais les plongées sont 100 fois mieux (pas difficile ceci dit).
Sinon essaye un peu plus au sud, caminguin
Sinon essaye un peu plus au sud, caminguin
Bien répondu, le nav....MDR😛😉😏😏😏
raph
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
et le BICOL EXPRESS? LOL!😏😏😏😉
raph
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
ah très bon le Bicol Express, mon plat filipino préféré ( et le seul que j'aime, disons le).
Par contre il y a aussi la picole express qui est pas mal, dans ce pays....Saint Michel dans sa version espagnole est aussi mon sein préféré ( non non il n' y a pas de faute d' orthographe).....
Et le jeune festif, là, il n'a pas encore rencontré de filipina, sinon il n'en parlerait pas comme ça. Du moins je l'espère.
Le Pattaya local, c'est à Angeles, très très loin d'Alona Beach.....
Par contre il y a aussi la picole express qui est pas mal, dans ce pays....Saint Michel dans sa version espagnole est aussi mon sein préféré ( non non il n' y a pas de faute d' orthographe).....
Et le jeune festif, là, il n'a pas encore rencontré de filipina, sinon il n'en parlerait pas comme ça. Du moins je l'espère.
Le Pattaya local, c'est à Angeles, très très loin d'Alona Beach.....
Il y a bien Cebu jail.
jeune : moyenne d'âge trentenaires festif : ils n'arrêtent pas de danser.
Sinon, Mango square, le coin branché de cebu.
Amitiés à tous en attendant d'autres nouvelles moins nuageuses.
Denis de Bantayan, où les effets radioactifs ne se font pas encore sentir, mais on se prémunit : SMB, SML et autre stallion.
Allez, j'arrête de divaguer.
jeune : moyenne d'âge trentenaires festif : ils n'arrêtent pas de danser.
Sinon, Mango square, le coin branché de cebu.
Amitiés à tous en attendant d'autres nouvelles moins nuageuses.
Denis de Bantayan, où les effets radioactifs ne se font pas encore sentir, mais on se prémunit : SMB, SML et autre stallion.
Allez, j'arrête de divaguer.
CouCou d'une perle des Philippines, Bantayan Island
Et le"Sisig, et le Crispy Pata?😛😛😛
raph
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
mango square pas mal de pro (je sais la frontiere est parfois fine ) et les boites plus ou moins classique hyper bruyante , j aime pas trop , mais pour boire quelque bieres sur la place ca va
une boite plutot classe dont j ai oublie le nom vers ayala et dans les grand hotels aussi (y aura surement des pros aussi )
pour bien se marrer a cebu city le mieux c'est les gogos vers mango avenue (tu n'est pas force de consommer si ca te pose probleme ), y a plein de francais (ou autres)tres sympa qui y trainent
pour rencontrer des gens souvent dans les grand mall, des gens qui peuvent te brancher sur des sorties, bon t as aussi des chances de tomber sur des pros ou des margoulins
le dimanche vers liloan et plus au nord y a plein de familles qui pique niquent sur les plages
sinon la fete genre kho phangan ca existe pas a cebu city , camingin , alona
le plus proche c'est boracay le floating bar a bantayan ca peut etre sympa mais c'est limité et y a des pros aussi
pour bien se marrer a cebu city le mieux c'est les gogos vers mango avenue (tu n'est pas force de consommer si ca te pose probleme ), y a plein de francais (ou autres)tres sympa qui y trainent
pour rencontrer des gens souvent dans les grand mall, des gens qui peuvent te brancher sur des sorties, bon t as aussi des chances de tomber sur des pros ou des margoulins
le dimanche vers liloan et plus au nord y a plein de familles qui pique niquent sur les plages
sinon la fete genre kho phangan ca existe pas a cebu city , camingin , alona
le plus proche c'est boracay le floating bar a bantayan ca peut etre sympa mais c'est limité et y a des pros aussi
slt alona beach yes tu pourras boire le coup festif pas sur rien de special sur alona a toi de voir
welcome to panglao
le vieux
welcome to panglao
le vieux
Philippines il n'y a pas de rave parties sur les îles comme en Thailand;
Pour le festif comme tu l'entends; assez limité sauf Manille; un peu Cébu
Bohol (Alona) c'est finallement assez calme sauf qq bars crachant de la musique sur la plage
Boracay je connais pas; peut être ce qui pourrait se rapprocher de ce que tu recherches; je sais pas
Sur petites îles; des discos en plein air le samedi; ambiance familiale;
Pour le Pattaya local ; si tu évites angeles; certaines rues de Manille et de Cébu; le reste RAS🙂
Mais bon les philippines pour la fête comme tu l'entends; c'est très moyen; par contre pour belles plages et paysages; yes😉
Mais bon les philippines pour la fête comme tu l'entends; c'est très moyen; par contre pour belles plages et paysages; yes😉
Lorsque tu ne sais pas où tu vas, regarde d'où tu viens (proverbe Africain)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
ici a Dumaguete ( Negros Oriental ) il y a quelques boites branches style etudiant assez sympa , pour Panglao ca ne bouge pas du tout , ambiance resto amoureux et familial sur alona beach
"pour Panglao ca ne bouge pas du tout , ambiance resto amoureux et familial sur alona beach"
C'est clair Panglao c'est ambiance plus couple que party🙂
C'est clair Panglao c'est ambiance plus couple que party🙂
Lorsque tu ne sais pas où tu vas, regarde d'où tu viens (proverbe Africain)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Petit compte rendus subjectif de ma week end clubbing sur Cebu :
VENDREDI Penthouse/Loft Qu'une salle d'ouverte ( sur 2, l'autre en rénovation), beau cadre. Welcome to Korea! beaucoup d'étudiant coréen un peu d'expat avec leur "jeune fille de bonne famillle", musique commerciale, ca se montre, ca c'est préparer mais ca reste tres sage : ca reste à 10 cm de sa table et on reste avec son groupe... http://www.facebook.com/penthousecebu
Pump "boite ou on se termine" population plus hétérogène plus populaire et festive ( bonne vibe), grande terrasse ou ca refait le monde et mange, Installation sonore tres mal réglé et trop forte.
SAMEDI Vudu. jeunesse doré locale, jolies filles tres peu de "white" ( pas mal de jolies voitures au parking), Beau cadre, bonne installation sonore le premier floor avec un bon son teck-house malheureusement pas tres remplis car trop pointus. A l'étage, mainstream-mtv music dans le noir complet, remplis ambiance pas besoin de danser tellement on est serré.
http://www.facebook.com/VUDUcebu
Juliana. Quartiers des filles de mauvaise vie : la pomme ne tombe jamais loin du panier... Ne ramene ta petite soeur las bas, point positif le VJ.
VENDREDI Penthouse/Loft Qu'une salle d'ouverte ( sur 2, l'autre en rénovation), beau cadre. Welcome to Korea! beaucoup d'étudiant coréen un peu d'expat avec leur "jeune fille de bonne famillle", musique commerciale, ca se montre, ca c'est préparer mais ca reste tres sage : ca reste à 10 cm de sa table et on reste avec son groupe... http://www.facebook.com/penthousecebu
Pump "boite ou on se termine" population plus hétérogène plus populaire et festive ( bonne vibe), grande terrasse ou ca refait le monde et mange, Installation sonore tres mal réglé et trop forte.
SAMEDI Vudu. jeunesse doré locale, jolies filles tres peu de "white" ( pas mal de jolies voitures au parking), Beau cadre, bonne installation sonore le premier floor avec un bon son teck-house malheureusement pas tres remplis car trop pointus. A l'étage, mainstream-mtv music dans le noir complet, remplis ambiance pas besoin de danser tellement on est serré.
http://www.facebook.com/VUDUcebu
Juliana. Quartiers des filles de mauvaise vie : la pomme ne tombe jamais loin du panier... Ne ramene ta petite soeur las bas, point positif le VJ.
bonjour,
à part les boites branchées, qu'y a t il d'autre à dumaguete à faire le soir ?
cottet
dormir🙂
"dormir🙂"
😎😎non on peut aller au mcdonalds ou au jollybee^^😛
😎😎non on peut aller au mcdonalds ou au jollybee^^😛
Lorsque tu ne sais pas où tu vas, regarde d'où tu viens (proverbe Africain)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Petit compte rendus subjectif de ma week end clubbing sur Cebu :
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Juliana. Quartiers des filles de mauvaise vie : la pomme ne tombe jamais loin du panier... Ne ramene ta petite soeur las bas, point positif le VJ.
Décidément, tu as un problème avec ça, toi, tu en parles beaucoup trop ( mal) .....
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Juliana. Quartiers des filles de mauvaise vie : la pomme ne tombe jamais loin du panier... Ne ramene ta petite soeur las bas, point positif le VJ.
Décidément, tu as un problème avec ça, toi, tu en parles beaucoup trop ( mal) .....
Aucun problème,
juste après 4 ans de voyage à travers l'Asie je sais depuis le premier soir que les endroits où il y a des prostitués et leur clientèle me conviendront pas en terme de musique et de rencontres.
Donc je les évite aussi simplement que cela d’où ma requête initiale!
Donc je les évite aussi simplement que cela d’où ma requête initiale!
Fait gaffe.....😉....il a 27ans...... depuis 4 ans il parcoure L"Asie, peut etre les Philippines , ... , sait tout sur le sujet!!
LOL !!
De plus il a un cinquiéme sens.....il respire les filles des rues....., celles que l'on peut trouver le soir à la tombée de la nuit et qui volent appareil photo et MP4 à ceux qui les fréquente....ça peut coûter cher!😉
Nav
Lol😉.....sur TF1 la nuit de la ....!
Oui :les agressions des lady boy shootés au schabou cela existe!!
Il y a des victimes d'agression dans les rues de Manille même le matin de bonne heure.Il faut pas en faire une généralité!
Mais les lady boy ne sont pas tous pareils!;à ce propos ça me rappelle une anecdote vraie aussi celle là! dans un coin tranquille sur Siquijor en 2006.
un Européen pourtant pas jeune , en mâle d"amour a courtisé un superbe lady boy avant de s'apercevoir bien tard que la jolie fille bien en forme était un homme!!!
LOL
😉
Surprise surprise!
Bonjour,
j'ai du mal à comprendre la tournure de la discution!
Je ne suis pas là pour ouvrir un débat stérile ou juger la prostitution ( et clientèle) mais également me faire juger sur un ton quelque peu condescendant ou à faire me prêter des propos qui ne sont pas les miens ( TF1 et la télévision en générale tres peu pour moi)...
Chaqu'un fait ce qu'il veut, au risque de me répéter je me permet d'affirmer que la prostitution c'est pas pour moi apres il y en a qui préfère Pattaya et d'autre Chiang Mai comme on dit en thailande: up to you!
J'aurais préférer qu'on commente mon compte rendus sur les boites de nuits et parler des DJ/sound system que sur les 2 dernières lignes du message.
Pr l’anecdote : c'est la 2eme que sur VF je me retrouve sur une conversation qui dévie de ma question et je me retrouve à me faire juger sauf que la derniere fois c'était l'inverse on insinuait que j'étais un touriste sexuel car je me cherchais un logement à Koh Samui!
Merci encore à Alex79 et à Renosu pour leur message qui m'ont précieusement renseigner ainsi que ceux que j'ai recus en privé.
j'ai du mal à comprendre la tournure de la discution!
Je ne suis pas là pour ouvrir un débat stérile ou juger la prostitution ( et clientèle) mais également me faire juger sur un ton quelque peu condescendant ou à faire me prêter des propos qui ne sont pas les miens ( TF1 et la télévision en générale tres peu pour moi)...
Chaqu'un fait ce qu'il veut, au risque de me répéter je me permet d'affirmer que la prostitution c'est pas pour moi apres il y en a qui préfère Pattaya et d'autre Chiang Mai comme on dit en thailande: up to you!
J'aurais préférer qu'on commente mon compte rendus sur les boites de nuits et parler des DJ/sound system que sur les 2 dernières lignes du message.
Pr l’anecdote : c'est la 2eme que sur VF je me retrouve sur une conversation qui dévie de ma question et je me retrouve à me faire juger sauf que la derniere fois c'était l'inverse on insinuait que j'étais un touriste sexuel car je me cherchais un logement à Koh Samui!
Merci encore à Alex79 et à Renosu pour leur message qui m'ont précieusement renseigner ainsi que ceux que j'ai recus en privé.
Bonjour,
intéressant ton échange
et désolant de voir les "poilus" Européens des philippines
tu es le bienvenu à juger et essayer d'avoir des conversations avec des passés ratés et des futurs incertains
regarde, juge avec ton expérience, mais ne critique pas ces gens - filipinos ou filipinas- qui essaye de vivre dans un monde difficile et sans pitié
Quant à ces VIEUX (on ne se reconnaît que soi même en tant que passé ou non existant) laisse les dire ils ne sont que le passé d'un non futur
bonne découverte
et désolant de voir les "poilus" Européens des philippines
tu es le bienvenu à juger et essayer d'avoir des conversations avec des passés ratés et des futurs incertains
regarde, juge avec ton expérience, mais ne critique pas ces gens - filipinos ou filipinas- qui essaye de vivre dans un monde difficile et sans pitié
Quant à ces VIEUX (on ne se reconnaît que soi même en tant que passé ou non existant) laisse les dire ils ne sont que le passé d'un non futur
bonne découverte
Dites donc Agila le philosophe de bistrot, essayez svp de comprendre quelle est la teneur de nos interventions:
En face un jeune homme qui a décidé de ne voir du monde que ce qui convenait à sa vision policée, préformée, empreinte sans doute de ce qu' il croit être le BCBG-isme le plus pur.
DE l'autre côté, le monde. Et ses réalités. Nier que le phénomène de la prostitution fait partie de la société des Philippines, ne vouloir voir que des belles plages et n'écouter que des di-djîs qu' on apprécie , ne fréquenter que des boîtes que l' on sélectionne soigneusement, c'est une attitude de vie qui montre un étonnant manque de maturité, à 27 ans....
Quand on visite un pays, et surtout un pays aussi généreux que les Philippines, on prend tout, on capte tout, on accepte tout et on essaye de comprendre un peu.
Je suis très loin- mais alors très loin- d'encourager la prostitution ou d'en faire usage, croyez le. Mais je sais qu'elle est là, je comprends pourquoi elle est là. Et toutes ces jeunes femmes qui n' ont pas vraiment beaucoup d'autres choix, pour nourrir la famille ( au sens large comme vous savez) , que de se " prêter" à des activités peu gratifiantes psychologiquement, je les comprend autant que je peux.
Et je les aime, comme j'aime tous les Filipinos. Parce qu' ils( et elles) le valent bien.
J'ai bien peur que notre jeune " fêtard" n'aie fait un long déplacement pour ne rien apprendre.
En face un jeune homme qui a décidé de ne voir du monde que ce qui convenait à sa vision policée, préformée, empreinte sans doute de ce qu' il croit être le BCBG-isme le plus pur.
DE l'autre côté, le monde. Et ses réalités. Nier que le phénomène de la prostitution fait partie de la société des Philippines, ne vouloir voir que des belles plages et n'écouter que des di-djîs qu' on apprécie , ne fréquenter que des boîtes que l' on sélectionne soigneusement, c'est une attitude de vie qui montre un étonnant manque de maturité, à 27 ans....
Quand on visite un pays, et surtout un pays aussi généreux que les Philippines, on prend tout, on capte tout, on accepte tout et on essaye de comprendre un peu.
Je suis très loin- mais alors très loin- d'encourager la prostitution ou d'en faire usage, croyez le. Mais je sais qu'elle est là, je comprends pourquoi elle est là. Et toutes ces jeunes femmes qui n' ont pas vraiment beaucoup d'autres choix, pour nourrir la famille ( au sens large comme vous savez) , que de se " prêter" à des activités peu gratifiantes psychologiquement, je les comprend autant que je peux.
Et je les aime, comme j'aime tous les Filipinos. Parce qu' ils( et elles) le valent bien.
J'ai bien peur que notre jeune " fêtard" n'aie fait un long déplacement pour ne rien apprendre.
slt
bien dit rien à ajouter analyse parfaite de la vie aux phils.
le vieux
bien dit rien à ajouter analyse parfaite de la vie aux phils.
le vieux
Et je les aime, comme j'aime tous les Filipinos.
Parce qu' ils( et elles) le valent bien
Quand on visite un pays, et surtout un pays aussi généreux que les Philippines, on prend tout, on capte tout, on accepte tout et on essaye de comprendre un peu.
Idem.......De tout coeur avec toi et en parfaite compréhension Getehem! Vive les Philippines libres::::!!!!😉 Nav
Quand on visite un pays, et surtout un pays aussi généreux que les Philippines, on prend tout, on capte tout, on accepte tout et on essaye de comprendre un peu.
Idem.......De tout coeur avec toi et en parfaite compréhension Getehem! Vive les Philippines libres::::!!!!😉 Nav
"Pr l’anecdote : c'est la 2eme que sur VF je me retrouve sur une conversation qui dévie de ma question et je me retrouve à me faire juger sauf que la derniere fois c'était l'inverse on insinuait que j'étais un touriste sexuel car je me cherchais un logement à Koh Samui!"
ceux qui jugent sont souvent les mauvais payeurs (ya qu'à voir le nombre de mecs seuls voyageant ou vivant en thailande, sainte nitouche sur le forum mais je doute en vrai^^) le coup de koh samui est révélateur de l'emprise de certains sur une destination; surtout que ceux qui te sont rentrés dedant sur le post Koh Samui sont peut être des touristes sexuels cachés, auréolés de bonnes intentions VF😄😄 Après la prostitution est endémique en Asie; on n'y peut malheureusement rien et les locaux sont d'ailleurs souvent les plus gros consommateurs🤪
Tiens à tout hasard tu connais pas l'île de koh lanta en thailande; j'ai mis un post sur vf car j'y vais bientôt et je recherchais un conseil d'hébergement en basse saison...et aucune réponse sniff🙁
ceux qui jugent sont souvent les mauvais payeurs (ya qu'à voir le nombre de mecs seuls voyageant ou vivant en thailande, sainte nitouche sur le forum mais je doute en vrai^^) le coup de koh samui est révélateur de l'emprise de certains sur une destination; surtout que ceux qui te sont rentrés dedant sur le post Koh Samui sont peut être des touristes sexuels cachés, auréolés de bonnes intentions VF😄😄 Après la prostitution est endémique en Asie; on n'y peut malheureusement rien et les locaux sont d'ailleurs souvent les plus gros consommateurs🤪
Tiens à tout hasard tu connais pas l'île de koh lanta en thailande; j'ai mis un post sur vf car j'y vais bientôt et je recherchais un conseil d'hébergement en basse saison...et aucune réponse sniff🙁
Lorsque tu ne sais pas où tu vas, regarde d'où tu viens (proverbe Africain)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
bon on ne peut pas tout voir et tout comprendre lors d un premier voyage aux phils
tu as eu une premiere approche au travers des boites et du sound puisque c'est ton trip , tu as bien du avoir quelques echanges
continue , de toutes facons il n y a pas qu une seule voie pour voyager aux phils 🙂
Bonjour les amis,
Je crains que nous ne donnions qu'une pietre image des Philippines au travers de ces discutions a propos de la prostitution, qui, existe certes, mais a regresse, en tout cas en matiere de pedophilie. On sous-entend que les Philippines EST le pays ou la prostition est presente partout et normalisee.
Nous n'avons pas a etre trop moralisateur et donner ainsi une image negative des Philippines.
Balladez-vous aujourd'hui dans toutes les grands villes europennes, vous pourrez constater que la prostitution est bien presente et en plein developpement, notamment au travers des reseau de traites d'etre humain venus des pays de l'est, mais aussi d'Afrique, mais aussi une prostitution plus feutree exercee par des personnes faisant partie d'une classe sociale plus elevee, et qui y voit occasionnellement une possibilite d, arrondir les angles en fin de mois.
A nouveau je rappelle que dans le monde entier, la Belgique te la France sont connue aussi pour leur Dutroux et autre Fourniret.
Pour en revenir donc aux Philippines, il serait bien de parletr avant tout des cotes positifs de ce merveilleux pays.
Bien amicalement a tous.
Denis.
Je crains que nous ne donnions qu'une pietre image des Philippines au travers de ces discutions a propos de la prostitution, qui, existe certes, mais a regresse, en tout cas en matiere de pedophilie. On sous-entend que les Philippines EST le pays ou la prostition est presente partout et normalisee.
Nous n'avons pas a etre trop moralisateur et donner ainsi une image negative des Philippines.
Balladez-vous aujourd'hui dans toutes les grands villes europennes, vous pourrez constater que la prostitution est bien presente et en plein developpement, notamment au travers des reseau de traites d'etre humain venus des pays de l'est, mais aussi d'Afrique, mais aussi une prostitution plus feutree exercee par des personnes faisant partie d'une classe sociale plus elevee, et qui y voit occasionnellement une possibilite d, arrondir les angles en fin de mois.
A nouveau je rappelle que dans le monde entier, la Belgique te la France sont connue aussi pour leur Dutroux et autre Fourniret.
Pour en revenir donc aux Philippines, il serait bien de parletr avant tout des cotes positifs de ce merveilleux pays.
Bien amicalement a tous.
Denis.
CouCou d'une perle des Philippines, Bantayan Island
100% d'accord ! avec Getehem, Alex et jeandaune!😉
raph
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
Tout ce qui ne me tue pas, me rends plus fort Ni dieux, ni maitres
100% encore de plus .....il me fait mal au ventre d'entendre certains propos et de voir encore une fois certaines personnes en mal être; profiter de cette tribune pour proférer des calomnies , colporter des clichés et insulter le peuple Philippin et ses amis.
Nav
Oui denis 100 pour cent d'accord; dommage que la discussion dérive trop sur ce sujet même si c'est une réalité qu'on ne peut nier; heureusement les philippines c'est avant tout des îles merveilleuses, un peuple accueillant, des plages à couper le souffle😉
Lorsque tu ne sais pas où tu vas, regarde d'où tu viens (proverbe Africain)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Ni aujourd'hui ni jamais, la richesse ne suffit à classer un homme, mais aujourd'hui plus que jamais la pauvreté le déclasse (Charles Maurras)
Effectivement, mais je peux t'affirmer le la gangrene dont nous parlions est bien plus presente aujourd'hui dans bien d'autres pays, chez nous, mais aussi tHailande, vietnam..
CouCou d'une perle des Philippines, Bantayan Island
Aux philippines la prostition n'est pas visible partout , il faut arreter avec ces clichés ... certes on y croise quelques couples mixtes , mais on est tres loin de la prostitution endémique dans d'autres pays . Sur Negros , Bohol par exemple , je n'ai rien vu de tel . En plus les touristes d' Angeles city ne sont pas du tout les memes que dans le reste du pays .
Ce pays m'a vraiment étonné , notamment par la gentillesse et la tolérance de ses habitants . Rien que pour ça voyager dans ce pays vaut vraiment le coup .
Dites donc Agila le philosophe de bistrot, essayez svp de comprendre quelle est la teneur de nos interventions:
En face un jeune homme qui a décidé de ne voir du monde que ce qui convenait à sa vision policée, préformée, empreinte sans doute de ce qu' il croit être le BCBG-isme le plus pur.
DE l'autre côté, le monde. Et ses réalités. Nier que le phénomène de la prostitution fait partie de la société des Philippines, ne vouloir voir que des belles plages et n'écouter que des di-djîs qu' on apprécie , ne fréquenter que des boîtes que l' on sélectionne soigneusement, c'est une attitude de vie qui montre un étonnant manque de maturité, à 27 ans....
Quand on visite un pays, et surtout un pays aussi généreux que les Philippines, on prend tout, on capte tout, on accepte tout et on essaye de comprendre un peu.
Je suis très loin- mais alors très loin- d'encourager la prostitution ou d'en faire usage, croyez le. Mais je sais qu'elle est là, je comprends pourquoi elle est là. Et toutes ces jeunes femmes qui n' ont pas vraiment beaucoup d'autres choix, pour nourrir la famille ( au sens large comme vous savez) , que de se " prêter" à des activités peu gratifiantes psychologiquement, je les comprend autant que je peux.
Et je les aime, comme j'aime tous les Filipinos. Parce qu' ils( et elles) le valent bien.
J'ai bien peur que notre jeune " fêtard" n'aie fait un long déplacement pour ne rien apprendre.
Je travaille par Internet, donc j'y passe pas mal de temps;) Mais j'ai toujours eu du mal sur les forums avec les combats d'égos où l’anonymat et la distance permettent de s'emporter facilement... Donc je vais continuer de répondre poliment malgré tes propos blessant et tes affirmations/jugements faux.
Attention je vais enfoncer des portes ouvertes! Je connais des filles de bar qui sont des vrais amies depuis plus de 4 ans, je peux avoir beaucoup de tendresse pour elle et leur passé & futur difficile. Spécialement quand je vois leur regard triste ou dans le vague quand elles ont 10 ans de moins que moi et se font tripoter par un mec de 2 fois leur poids et 2 fois mon age... Je ne peux avoir que du respect pour ces filles qui tente de survivre et nourrisse des familles. Qu'on ne me prête pas d'autre propos, merci.
J'ai également des amis de tout age qui ont été dans tout types et durée de relation avec ces filles et je ne leur jamais jeter la pierre non plus!
La prostitution et plus globalement le rapport homme-femme en Asie est un sujet présent dans la communauté expat/touriste longue durée et qui est intéressant pour tenter de comprendre la culture locale : le sujet est complexe, infinis et il faut éviter tout manichéisme. Je n'ai pas de jugement "moral" sur cela, je serais d'ailleurs plutôt pour le modèle allemand en terme de systeme.
Revenons à nos moutons : Voyageant la plupart du temps seul il y a 3 choses qui me poussent à sortir le soir et qui me font éviter les endroits à prostitués :
1. La musique et plus particulièrement les musiques éléctroniques. Je fais partis de ces gens qui font des voyages juste pour un festival ( Sonar...), qui écoute des émissions sur la musique même à l'autre bout du monde ( merci les podcast de france culture), qui tente de mixer à leur heures perdus... Ou dit d'un autre facon ecouter 4 fois dans la meme soirée David Guetta et Black Eyes Peas c'est pas ce que je prefere.
2. La drague, je préfère séduire une femme que l'acheter.
3. La découverte, les boites de nuits pour touristes remplis de filles vivant de leurs charmes ne sont pas forcement la meilleur manière de découvrir la population locale. J'ai passé mes meilleurs soirées de nombreuse fois car je me suis retrouvé le seul "western guy", avec de ce fait justement le meilleur accueil et respect possible plutôt que de me contenter du 1er bar/disco à fille que le taxi à tenter de m’emmener. Et cela de la boite classe au karaoke à tabouret en plastique.
C'est mon point de vue qui comme je l'ai dit auparavant : subjectif, je ne prétend pas tout savoir ou faire la morale.
Pour finir, les philippine était un des derniers pays asiatique que je n'avais pas visité, je ne le regrette pas d'y être allé! J'ai adoré mon séjour : les gens, les paysages, la culture, les plongées, son coté vierge qui contrairement à ce tu dis ne peut n'est pas juste réduit à 2 soirées...
@ Alex, Pr Koh lanta ca fait trop longtemps que j'y suis allé pour t’être utile mais je te conseille ce site qui me sert beaucoup : http://wikitravel.org/en/Ko_Lanta
@ Sozal
Aux philippines la prostition n'est pas visible partout , il faut arreter avec ces clichés ... certes on y croise quelques couples mixtes , mais on est tres loin de la prostitution endémique dans d'autres pays . Sur Negros , Bohol par exemple , je n'ai rien vu de tel . En plus les touristes d' Angeles city ne sont pas du tout les memes que dans le reste du pays .
Entièrement d'acord avec toi, ( j'ai bien apprécié Bohol) Bizarement j'ai preferé faire l'impasse sur Angeles City et passer plus de temps en trekking.
Bon week-end!
En face un jeune homme qui a décidé de ne voir du monde que ce qui convenait à sa vision policée, préformée, empreinte sans doute de ce qu' il croit être le BCBG-isme le plus pur.
DE l'autre côté, le monde. Et ses réalités. Nier que le phénomène de la prostitution fait partie de la société des Philippines, ne vouloir voir que des belles plages et n'écouter que des di-djîs qu' on apprécie , ne fréquenter que des boîtes que l' on sélectionne soigneusement, c'est une attitude de vie qui montre un étonnant manque de maturité, à 27 ans....
Quand on visite un pays, et surtout un pays aussi généreux que les Philippines, on prend tout, on capte tout, on accepte tout et on essaye de comprendre un peu.
Je suis très loin- mais alors très loin- d'encourager la prostitution ou d'en faire usage, croyez le. Mais je sais qu'elle est là, je comprends pourquoi elle est là. Et toutes ces jeunes femmes qui n' ont pas vraiment beaucoup d'autres choix, pour nourrir la famille ( au sens large comme vous savez) , que de se " prêter" à des activités peu gratifiantes psychologiquement, je les comprend autant que je peux.
Et je les aime, comme j'aime tous les Filipinos. Parce qu' ils( et elles) le valent bien.
J'ai bien peur que notre jeune " fêtard" n'aie fait un long déplacement pour ne rien apprendre.
Je travaille par Internet, donc j'y passe pas mal de temps;) Mais j'ai toujours eu du mal sur les forums avec les combats d'égos où l’anonymat et la distance permettent de s'emporter facilement... Donc je vais continuer de répondre poliment malgré tes propos blessant et tes affirmations/jugements faux.
Attention je vais enfoncer des portes ouvertes! Je connais des filles de bar qui sont des vrais amies depuis plus de 4 ans, je peux avoir beaucoup de tendresse pour elle et leur passé & futur difficile. Spécialement quand je vois leur regard triste ou dans le vague quand elles ont 10 ans de moins que moi et se font tripoter par un mec de 2 fois leur poids et 2 fois mon age... Je ne peux avoir que du respect pour ces filles qui tente de survivre et nourrisse des familles. Qu'on ne me prête pas d'autre propos, merci.
J'ai également des amis de tout age qui ont été dans tout types et durée de relation avec ces filles et je ne leur jamais jeter la pierre non plus!
La prostitution et plus globalement le rapport homme-femme en Asie est un sujet présent dans la communauté expat/touriste longue durée et qui est intéressant pour tenter de comprendre la culture locale : le sujet est complexe, infinis et il faut éviter tout manichéisme. Je n'ai pas de jugement "moral" sur cela, je serais d'ailleurs plutôt pour le modèle allemand en terme de systeme.
Revenons à nos moutons : Voyageant la plupart du temps seul il y a 3 choses qui me poussent à sortir le soir et qui me font éviter les endroits à prostitués :
1. La musique et plus particulièrement les musiques éléctroniques. Je fais partis de ces gens qui font des voyages juste pour un festival ( Sonar...), qui écoute des émissions sur la musique même à l'autre bout du monde ( merci les podcast de france culture), qui tente de mixer à leur heures perdus... Ou dit d'un autre facon ecouter 4 fois dans la meme soirée David Guetta et Black Eyes Peas c'est pas ce que je prefere.
2. La drague, je préfère séduire une femme que l'acheter.
3. La découverte, les boites de nuits pour touristes remplis de filles vivant de leurs charmes ne sont pas forcement la meilleur manière de découvrir la population locale. J'ai passé mes meilleurs soirées de nombreuse fois car je me suis retrouvé le seul "western guy", avec de ce fait justement le meilleur accueil et respect possible plutôt que de me contenter du 1er bar/disco à fille que le taxi à tenter de m’emmener. Et cela de la boite classe au karaoke à tabouret en plastique.
C'est mon point de vue qui comme je l'ai dit auparavant : subjectif, je ne prétend pas tout savoir ou faire la morale.
Pour finir, les philippine était un des derniers pays asiatique que je n'avais pas visité, je ne le regrette pas d'y être allé! J'ai adoré mon séjour : les gens, les paysages, la culture, les plongées, son coté vierge qui contrairement à ce tu dis ne peut n'est pas juste réduit à 2 soirées...
@ Alex, Pr Koh lanta ca fait trop longtemps que j'y suis allé pour t’être utile mais je te conseille ce site qui me sert beaucoup : http://wikitravel.org/en/Ko_Lanta
@ Sozal
Aux philippines la prostition n'est pas visible partout , il faut arreter avec ces clichés ... certes on y croise quelques couples mixtes , mais on est tres loin de la prostitution endémique dans d'autres pays . Sur Negros , Bohol par exemple , je n'ai rien vu de tel . En plus les touristes d' Angeles city ne sont pas du tout les memes que dans le reste du pays .
Entièrement d'acord avec toi, ( j'ai bien apprécié Bohol) Bizarement j'ai preferé faire l'impasse sur Angeles City et passer plus de temps en trekking.
Bon week-end!
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After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
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Hi everyone,
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I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
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Hi there,
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We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
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Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone,
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Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
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Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!