J'hésite pour la nuit à MONTEREY .Il serait possible de faire san francisco-l.a ainsi je gagnerai une journée pour MOAB. Quel est le temps de route entre LOS ANGELES et GRAND canyon.?merci à tous
Itinéraire de vingt-deux jours dans l'Ouest américain en été 2010
by Bob94
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Nous comptons découvrir l' ouest cet été.Aprés ovoir lu un certain nombre itinéraire voici celui que je propose.Nous sommes une famille de 5.3 ados 18-16-13 ans.Mon mari apprécie plus les villes que la nature.Nous partons 3 semaines 25/07-15/08 et je voudrai savoir si le rythme n'est pas trop rapide et si les etapes s'enchaine logiquement.
1-PARIS-LAS VEGAS
2-LAS VEGAS-DEATH VALLEY-LONE PINE
3.LONE PINE-YOSEMITE(EL PORTAL)
4-YOSEMITE
5-YOSEMITE-SAN FRANCISCO
6-SAN FRANCISCO
7-SAN FRANCISCO
8-SAN FRANCISCO-MONTEREY
9-MONTEREY-LOS ANGELES
10-LOS ANGELES
11-L.A (UNIVERSAL STUDIO)
12-L.A-PALM SPRINGS
13-PALM SPRINGS-HAVASUPAI
14-HAVASUPAI-WILLIAMS
15-WILLIAMS-LAC POWELL(PAGE)
16-PAGE (ANTELOPE-HORSESHOE BEND)
17-page-monument valley
18-MONUMENT VALLEY-MOAB(ARCHES)
19-ARCHES-BRYCE
20-BRYCE-ZION
21-ZION-LAS VEGAS
22-LAS VEGAS-PARIS
J'hésite pour la nuit à MONTEREY .Il serait possible de faire san francisco-l.a ainsi je gagnerai une journée pour MOAB. Quel est le temps de route entre LOS ANGELES et GRAND canyon.?merci à tous
J'hésite pour la nuit à MONTEREY .Il serait possible de faire san francisco-l.a ainsi je gagnerai une journée pour MOAB. Quel est le temps de route entre LOS ANGELES et GRAND canyon.?merci à tous
euh déjà, pourquoi arriver et partir de Las Vegas ???
sinon : J2 pas top, ca vous fait visiter Death Valley aux plus chaudes heures dela journée, donc vous en pourrez aps visiter... J3 : vous pensez faire un arrêt à Bodie ? Moab bien trop rapide (en fait je ne fais là que répéter ce que je lis tout le temps sur le forum, étant donné que je n'y suis pas moi-même allé...) dans tous els cas J19/20/21/22 ca va être la course...
sinon : J2 pas top, ca vous fait visiter Death Valley aux plus chaudes heures dela journée, donc vous en pourrez aps visiter... J3 : vous pensez faire un arrêt à Bodie ? Moab bien trop rapide (en fait je ne fais là que répéter ce que je lis tout le temps sur le forum, étant donné que je n'y suis pas moi-même allé...) dans tous els cas J19/20/21/22 ca va être la course...
Il n'y a pas de problème sans solution... et si il n'y a pas de solution, il n'y a pas de problème !
Si tu fais LA-SF par la route côtière, un stop entre les deux est obligatoire. Maintenant, Monterey ou ailleurs, à toi de voir. Mais sache qu'il fait plus frais sur la côte qu'à l'intérieur des terres (mais en été c'est pas plus mal)
Pour le grand Canyon Los angeles, compte une bonne journée de voiture, et encore cela dépend où tu vas à LA et surtout à quelle heure tu arrives compte tenu des bouchons).
En tout cas enjoy pour la route, car il faut le tenir le cerceau : ou plutôt non, tu mets le cruise control, bloque le volant, et hop 20 miles tout droit ; tu tourne de 15°, et encore 20 miles de ligne droite... Et tout cela sur 3500 miles (pas km, miles 🤪)
Pour le grand Canyon Los angeles, compte une bonne journée de voiture, et encore cela dépend où tu vas à LA et surtout à quelle heure tu arrives compte tenu des bouchons).
En tout cas enjoy pour la route, car il faut le tenir le cerceau : ou plutôt non, tu mets le cruise control, bloque le volant, et hop 20 miles tout droit ; tu tourne de 15°, et encore 20 miles de ligne droite... Et tout cela sur 3500 miles (pas km, miles 🤪)
18-MONUMENT VALLEY-MOAB(ARCHES)
19-ARCHES-BRYCE
20-BRYCE-ZION
21-ZION-LAS VEGAS
22-LAS VEGAS-PARIS
Quel est le temps de route entre LOS ANGELES et GRAND canyon.?merci à tous
A mon avis les révoltés du Bounty c'était de la rigolade à côté de ce qui vous attend! Vous allez finir sur les jantes à ce rythme là...
A mon humble avis, il vaut mieux en voir moins mais mieux, plus tranquillement, ça évite les frustrations (par ex. J19 ARCHES-BRYCE c'est passer à côté de Capitol Reef, Kodachrome, Devil's Garden, Grand Staircase Escalante...) 🤪
Pour ce qui concerne les temps de trajet consultez Google maps, je pense que la mise en place d'un itinéraire commence par là...
Bon courage 🙂
Quel est le temps de route entre LOS ANGELES et GRAND canyon.?merci à tous
A mon avis les révoltés du Bounty c'était de la rigolade à côté de ce qui vous attend! Vous allez finir sur les jantes à ce rythme là...
A mon humble avis, il vaut mieux en voir moins mais mieux, plus tranquillement, ça évite les frustrations (par ex. J19 ARCHES-BRYCE c'est passer à côté de Capitol Reef, Kodachrome, Devil's Garden, Grand Staircase Escalante...) 🤪
Pour ce qui concerne les temps de trajet consultez Google maps, je pense que la mise en place d'un itinéraire commence par là...
Bon courage 🙂
Arnho (dit Nono la sulfateuse)
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Hi !
Pour avaler les km, moi je connais, j'en ai fait 11 000 cette année,
mais un circuit comme ça je ne le ferrais pas,
ou alors en supprimant les villes ou bien en supprimant Moab
C'est quoi le tour à palm spring ?
Bern
Bern
USA 2018 - Arizona, chez les indiens... https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=9061068;#9061068
USA 2014 – Là où vous n'aviez pas pensé aller https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6769327;#6769327
USA 2012 "Au long du Rio Grande" https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5290732;#5290732
Ton projet est à retravailler.
A mon avis, tu n'as pas lu suffisamment d'itinéraires!
Si tu ne veux pas trop courir, il faut minimum 21 jours sur place (+ 2-3 jours pour faire les vols aller-retour) pour faire la classique boucle complète, démarrant de San Francisco, LA ou Las Vegas, et poussant jusqu'à Moab ( San Francisco – Côte Pacifique – Los Angeles – Grand Canyon – Page – Monument Valley – Moab – Torrey – Bryce Canyon – Zion – Las Vegas – Death Valley – Yosemite – San Francisco)
Tes jours 12-L.A-PALM SPRINGS, 13-PALM SPRINGS-HAVASUPAI, 14-HAVASUPAI-WILLIAMS, ne sont pas judicieux. Ils te font perdre bcp de temps, et t'empêchent même d'avoir le temps de pousser jusqu'au Grand Canyon! De plus, si tu veux voir Havasupai, il est conseillé de prévoir encore 1 jour de plus sur place....
En supprimant ces jours et en les remplaçant par 1 seul jour pour faire d'une traite le trajet LA-Grand Canyon(800 Km/8h de route), tu gagnes du temps à replacer sur la fin de ton itinéraire, car tes jours 18-MONUMENT VALLEY-MOAB(ARCHES), 19-ARCHES-BRYCE, 20-BRYCE-ZION , 21-ZION-LAS VEGAS sont impossibles à réaliser.
Ou alors si tu veux vraiment passer à HAVASUPAI, il faut supprimer MOAB... ou rajouter des jours!!...
Bon "travail"!
Si tu ne veux pas trop courir, il faut minimum 21 jours sur place (+ 2-3 jours pour faire les vols aller-retour) pour faire la classique boucle complète, démarrant de San Francisco, LA ou Las Vegas, et poussant jusqu'à Moab ( San Francisco – Côte Pacifique – Los Angeles – Grand Canyon – Page – Monument Valley – Moab – Torrey – Bryce Canyon – Zion – Las Vegas – Death Valley – Yosemite – San Francisco)
Tes jours 12-L.A-PALM SPRINGS, 13-PALM SPRINGS-HAVASUPAI, 14-HAVASUPAI-WILLIAMS, ne sont pas judicieux. Ils te font perdre bcp de temps, et t'empêchent même d'avoir le temps de pousser jusqu'au Grand Canyon! De plus, si tu veux voir Havasupai, il est conseillé de prévoir encore 1 jour de plus sur place....
En supprimant ces jours et en les remplaçant par 1 seul jour pour faire d'une traite le trajet LA-Grand Canyon(800 Km/8h de route), tu gagnes du temps à replacer sur la fin de ton itinéraire, car tes jours 18-MONUMENT VALLEY-MOAB(ARCHES), 19-ARCHES-BRYCE, 20-BRYCE-ZION , 21-ZION-LAS VEGAS sont impossibles à réaliser.
Ou alors si tu veux vraiment passer à HAVASUPAI, il faut supprimer MOAB... ou rajouter des jours!!...
Bon "travail"!
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
L'été passé on a fait à peu près ce parcours de LA/LA avec Moab en moins et c'était sur 4 semaines ...et à la fin c'était dur ! C'est ici
La fin de votre circuit est particulièrement speed, vous risquez de ne pas "régénérer" les batteries, avoir l'impression de rouler tout le temps et certainement ne pas avoir le temps de tout voir... ce serait dommage et frustrant ...
Avez vous prévu de voir le grand canyon ?
La fin de votre circuit est particulièrement speed, vous risquez de ne pas "régénérer" les batteries, avoir l'impression de rouler tout le temps et certainement ne pas avoir le temps de tout voir... ce serait dommage et frustrant ...
Avez vous prévu de voir le grand canyon ?
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Trop c'est trop! (même pas une journée complète à Las Vegas! Un jour à Moab c'est trop peu! Inutile d'y aller pour y passer une journée!)
Soit vous faites une boucle Las Vegas - Las Vegas et dans ce cas vous devez absolument revoir tout ça. Il faut enlever des choses, là vous survolez plus d'un endroit! Quels sont pour vous les immanquables? Voilà la question!
Soit vous ne faites pas une boucle. Exemple, vous arrivez à San Francisco, et décollez à Las Vegas. Ça vous permettra peut-être de faire un peu plus de choses selon l'agencement de votre circuit. Mais il y aura sans dote encore des choses à enlever pour ne pas avoir à courir!
Soit vous faites une boucle Las Vegas - Las Vegas et dans ce cas vous devez absolument revoir tout ça. Il faut enlever des choses, là vous survolez plus d'un endroit! Quels sont pour vous les immanquables? Voilà la question!
Soit vous ne faites pas une boucle. Exemple, vous arrivez à San Francisco, et décollez à Las Vegas. Ça vous permettra peut-être de faire un peu plus de choses selon l'agencement de votre circuit. Mais il y aura sans dote encore des choses à enlever pour ne pas avoir à courir!
Hello,
Je suis tout à fait d'accord avec ITAT et Bastinj, de nombreuses étapes que tu proposes vont vous laisser sur les rotules et ce serait dommage de passer à la vitesse grand V devant toutes les merveilles que vous aller croiser... Si vous n'avez pas encore pris vos billets, les conseils d'éviter la boucle Vegas-Vegas avec tout ce que vous avez mis est très judicieux...Pour notre part nous avions fait une boucle SFO-SFO en 23 jours avec à peu près toutes les étapes dont vous parlez...y compris Palm Springs. Palm Springs était d'ailleurs une étape choisie pour nous car nous voulions faire le parc de Joshua à coté mais je dois dire que nous avons eu de grosses grosses journées de voiture: tout d'abord l'étape LA-Palm Springs nous a pris plus de 3 heures à cause des embouteillages. Néanmoins Palm Springs est un endroit spécial et unique, et si vous souhaitez y séjourner je vous conseille sans aucune réserve le Desert Riviera, notre hôtel préféré cette année!!! Le lendemain nous avons fait Palm Springs-Lake Havasu et nous avons eu plus de 8 heures de route mais agrémentés d'arrêts dans le parc et d'une route splendide par la suite...je ne connais pas votre route jusqu'à Havasupai mais plus de 9 heures sont annoncées...de quoi vous crever...et vous avez encore du chemin par la suite... Je dirai pareil pour l'étape Vegas-Lone Pine: presque 6 heures de route et donc vous allez passer Death Valley sans même en profiter. Tout cela ce sont des regrets après. Vous voulez voir des villes et vous n'accordez que si peu de temps à Vegas! C'est une ville incroyable avec tant de choses à y découvrir...en y passant si vite, vous ne verrez pas grand chose et ce sera encore une déception (croyez moi j'en sais quelque chose!!!). La côte Ouest de SFO à LA est magnifique et passer en coup de vent sans voir Monterey, Carmel et surtout Santa Barbara serait une erreur. Alors soit vous rallongez comme certains en ont parlé et vous faite par exemple une boucle SFO-SFO ou bien LA-LA, ou encore vous pouvez faire SFO-LA en passant par Yosemite-DV-Zion-Bryce-Capitol Reef-Moab (3 nuits mini)-Monument Valley-Page-GC-LA mais donc en zappant la côte si vous avez des impératifs de temps...il y a tellement de possibilités!!! Vous allez voir c'est aussi cela le plaisir du voyage, c'est de le préparer, de changer mille fois les plans, de s'approprier une part de la route avant de partir...
Bon courage pour la suite.
Lanfeust
Je suis tout à fait d'accord avec ITAT et Bastinj, de nombreuses étapes que tu proposes vont vous laisser sur les rotules et ce serait dommage de passer à la vitesse grand V devant toutes les merveilles que vous aller croiser... Si vous n'avez pas encore pris vos billets, les conseils d'éviter la boucle Vegas-Vegas avec tout ce que vous avez mis est très judicieux...Pour notre part nous avions fait une boucle SFO-SFO en 23 jours avec à peu près toutes les étapes dont vous parlez...y compris Palm Springs. Palm Springs était d'ailleurs une étape choisie pour nous car nous voulions faire le parc de Joshua à coté mais je dois dire que nous avons eu de grosses grosses journées de voiture: tout d'abord l'étape LA-Palm Springs nous a pris plus de 3 heures à cause des embouteillages. Néanmoins Palm Springs est un endroit spécial et unique, et si vous souhaitez y séjourner je vous conseille sans aucune réserve le Desert Riviera, notre hôtel préféré cette année!!! Le lendemain nous avons fait Palm Springs-Lake Havasu et nous avons eu plus de 8 heures de route mais agrémentés d'arrêts dans le parc et d'une route splendide par la suite...je ne connais pas votre route jusqu'à Havasupai mais plus de 9 heures sont annoncées...de quoi vous crever...et vous avez encore du chemin par la suite... Je dirai pareil pour l'étape Vegas-Lone Pine: presque 6 heures de route et donc vous allez passer Death Valley sans même en profiter. Tout cela ce sont des regrets après. Vous voulez voir des villes et vous n'accordez que si peu de temps à Vegas! C'est une ville incroyable avec tant de choses à y découvrir...en y passant si vite, vous ne verrez pas grand chose et ce sera encore une déception (croyez moi j'en sais quelque chose!!!). La côte Ouest de SFO à LA est magnifique et passer en coup de vent sans voir Monterey, Carmel et surtout Santa Barbara serait une erreur. Alors soit vous rallongez comme certains en ont parlé et vous faite par exemple une boucle SFO-SFO ou bien LA-LA, ou encore vous pouvez faire SFO-LA en passant par Yosemite-DV-Zion-Bryce-Capitol Reef-Moab (3 nuits mini)-Monument Valley-Page-GC-LA mais donc en zappant la côte si vous avez des impératifs de temps...il y a tellement de possibilités!!! Vous allez voir c'est aussi cela le plaisir du voyage, c'est de le préparer, de changer mille fois les plans, de s'approprier une part de la route avant de partir...
Bon courage pour la suite.
Lanfeust
Je suis né dans les prairies où le vent soufflait librement et où rien n'obstruait la lumière du soleil. Je suis né en un lieu dépourvu de toute enceinte close. Geronimo "celui qui bataille"
13-PALM SPRINGS-HAVASUPAI
14-HAVASUPAI-WILLIAMS
Alors ca, c'est à oublier.....
De Palm Spring à Hilltop ( le parking pour Supai), tu as je crois 9h de route.... Et pour descendre à Supai, tu as encore 3h de marche, si tu traines pas.... Sachant qu'il n'y a pas de lumiere sur le chemin, ni meme d'indication d'ailleurs, tu suis les traces.... et à 18h30, il fait nuit noir dans le canyon tres encaissé.... Donc cela signifie partir à 6h du mat de Palm springs, ne pas faire de pause, et ne pas trainé non plus sur le chemin..... Pas sur que tu vas profiter de grand chose...
De meme le lendemain, tu vas visiter un peu quand meme , ce qui signifie partir pour la remontée en pleine chaleur, je l'ai fait, et je te souhaite bien du plaisir....
Pour faire havasupai et que cela presente un minimum d'interet, il faut dormir sur la 66 à l'entree de la route de Hilltop et attaquer la descente des 8 ou 9h, ainsi , tu as l'apres midi sur place, et dans ce cas là tu peux remonter le lendemain matin, et c'est le minimum....
Alors ca, c'est à oublier.....
De Palm Spring à Hilltop ( le parking pour Supai), tu as je crois 9h de route.... Et pour descendre à Supai, tu as encore 3h de marche, si tu traines pas.... Sachant qu'il n'y a pas de lumiere sur le chemin, ni meme d'indication d'ailleurs, tu suis les traces.... et à 18h30, il fait nuit noir dans le canyon tres encaissé.... Donc cela signifie partir à 6h du mat de Palm springs, ne pas faire de pause, et ne pas trainé non plus sur le chemin..... Pas sur que tu vas profiter de grand chose...
De meme le lendemain, tu vas visiter un peu quand meme , ce qui signifie partir pour la remontée en pleine chaleur, je l'ai fait, et je te souhaite bien du plaisir....
Pour faire havasupai et que cela presente un minimum d'interet, il faut dormir sur la 66 à l'entree de la route de Hilltop et attaquer la descente des 8 ou 9h, ainsi , tu as l'apres midi sur place, et dans ce cas là tu peux remonter le lendemain matin, et c'est le minimum....
Il n'y a que deux façons de vivre sa vie : l'une en faisant comme si rien n'était un miracle, l'autre comme si tout était un miracle.
Merci de votre réponse voici nos nouvel itinéraire:
1-PARIS-LAS VEGAS
2-LV-ZION
3-ZION-BRYCE CANYON
4-BRYCE-LAKE POWELL(PAGE)
5-PAGE (ANTELOPE-HORSESHOE BEND)
6-PAGE-MONUMENT VALLEY
7-MV-GRAND CANYON
8-GC
9- GC-PHOENIX(une étape avt los angeles...)
10-PHOENIX-LOS ANGELES
11-LA (beverly-hollywood)
12-LA STUDIOS HOLLYWOOD
13-LA-SANTE BARBARA-MONTEREY
14-MONTEREY-SAN FRANCISCO
15-SF
16-SF
17-SF-YOSEMITE
18-YOSEMITE(mariposa)
19-yosemite-DEATH VALLEE
20-DV-LAS VEGAS
21-LAS VEGAS
22-LV-PARIS
Cet itinéraire sera plus tranquille mais ne manque-t-il rien? j'ai essayé de tenir compte des remarques de chacun.
Pour le début, c'est tout de même genre rallye japonais....
tu passes très vite partout... et d'un coup tu vas faire une étape inutile a Phoenix qui n'est pas sur ton chemin... Tu devrais faire GC-LA d'une traite pour pouvoir décompresser un peu le début.. Si tu maintiens une étape entre les deux lieux.. penses plutôt à Kingman qui ne te déroute pas.. route 66 , puis zzzzz a Kingman
Mariposa est une mauvaise option pour zzz a Yosemite, car c'est a plus d'une heure du parc; ça fait 3 de perdues pour pour ta visite de ce parc..
la journée a LV a la fin, je la mettrais plutôt au début pour éponger légèrement le décalage horaire (dont tu n'as pas tenu compte d'ailleurs😮) avant de te lancer dans ton marathon des parcs..😛🤪😇
tu passes très vite partout... et d'un coup tu vas faire une étape inutile a Phoenix qui n'est pas sur ton chemin... Tu devrais faire GC-LA d'une traite pour pouvoir décompresser un peu le début.. Si tu maintiens une étape entre les deux lieux.. penses plutôt à Kingman qui ne te déroute pas.. route 66 , puis zzzzz a Kingman
Mariposa est une mauvaise option pour zzz a Yosemite, car c'est a plus d'une heure du parc; ça fait 3 de perdues pour pour ta visite de ce parc..
la journée a LV a la fin, je la mettrais plutôt au début pour éponger légèrement le décalage horaire (dont tu n'as pas tenu compte d'ailleurs😮) avant de te lancer dans ton marathon des parcs..😛🤪😇
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Bonsoir,
Juste un réaménagement possible:
1-PARIS-PHOENIX 2-PHOENIX - GC 3-GC - GC 4-GC - MONUMENT VALLEY 5-MONUMENT VALLEY - PAGE 6-PAGE-PAGE 7-PAGE - BRYCE 8-BRYCE - ZION 9- ZION - LV 10- LV 11-LV - DEATH VALLEY 12-DEATH VALLEY - YOSEMITE 13-YOSEMITE MARIPOSA 14- YOSEMITE - SAN FRANCISCO 15-SF 16-SF 17-SF - MONTEREY 18-MONTEREY - SANTA BARBARA - LA 19-LA 20-LA 21-LA - PARIS 22- JOUR BONUS
En changeant juste le lieu d'arrivée et en conservant ton timing tu peux gagner un jour sur place à ajouter selon tes envies.
Patrick
Juste un réaménagement possible:
1-PARIS-PHOENIX 2-PHOENIX - GC 3-GC - GC 4-GC - MONUMENT VALLEY 5-MONUMENT VALLEY - PAGE 6-PAGE-PAGE 7-PAGE - BRYCE 8-BRYCE - ZION 9- ZION - LV 10- LV 11-LV - DEATH VALLEY 12-DEATH VALLEY - YOSEMITE 13-YOSEMITE MARIPOSA 14- YOSEMITE - SAN FRANCISCO 15-SF 16-SF 17-SF - MONTEREY 18-MONTEREY - SANTA BARBARA - LA 19-LA 20-LA 21-LA - PARIS 22- JOUR BONUS
En changeant juste le lieu d'arrivée et en conservant ton timing tu peux gagner un jour sur place à ajouter selon tes envies.
Patrick
On ne vit qu'une fois !
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USA 2011 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2011
J'hésite pour faire GC -LA sans étape 800 km c'est bcp!!!Par contre l'arret à kingman me semble judicieux.Faut-il aller voir la passerelle de verre au-dessus du Grand Canyon ?
Pour L'instant les billets d'avion les moins chers que j'ai trouvé sont a/r LAS VEGAS en vol direct.Il y a une dif.de 100€ et nous sommes une famille de 5 !!
Je n'ai pas mis la premiére journée à LV car justement avec le décalage on va se réveiller trés tot et en profiter pour faire la route jusqu'à ZION .
Bonsoir,
J'ai presque la même problématique : nous partons cet été pour 22 jours, j'ai trouvé les billets les moins chers sur l'itinéraire Paris-LA, en famille avec 2 enfants dont un qui compte pour un adulte (12 ans cette année).
Je suis en train de construire mon itinénaire (que je posterai bientot ;)), en prévoyant des trajets au maximum de 500km dans une journée (en général entre 250 et 300km), histoire de rouler en prenant un peu de temps par-ci par-là.
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Hello! The itinerary is pretty much set for August 2026. Yeah, I know it’s gonna be *super* hot. But it’s the only time we can get away.
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas: JFK Museum; Perot Museum; West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Return to France: Dallas-Montpellier via CDG.
Cheers!
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas: JFK Museum; Perot Museum; West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Return to France: Dallas-Montpellier via CDG.
Cheers!
hi everyone
I’m planning a world trip and I’m looking for great tips on accommodation in the United States.
Do you have any good deals to share, please?
thanks
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
Best,
Best,
Hi there,
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
Hi everyone! 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
Hello everyone,
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!