Location de voiture à San Francisco ou Las Vegas?
by Mika974
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Salut,
nous sommes deux étudiants et nous allons faire un road trip dans l'ouest américain au mois de mai 2006.
nous voulons faire un boucle qui passe, en gros, par SF, LV, LA, et tous les grands parcs.
nous voulons savoir où il serait le moins cher de louer une voiture???
merci et à bientôt!
stef et mika.
mika
il faudrait faire des simulations sur les sites de location.....😉
en général il y a une surtaxe de 3$/J quand on loue à partir de Las Vegas
Faites bien attention aux assurances. il faut que soit incluses la CDW, LIS, pas de franchise... enfin avoir le plus de protections possible🙂
http://www.autoescape.com http://www.holidayautos.fr http://www.budget.com http://www.national.com http://www.thriffty.com http://www.avis.com http://www.hertz.com
et il y en a d'autres😉
en général il y a une surtaxe de 3$/J quand on loue à partir de Las Vegas
Faites bien attention aux assurances. il faut que soit incluses la CDW, LIS, pas de franchise... enfin avoir le plus de protections possible🙂
http://www.autoescape.com http://www.holidayautos.fr http://www.budget.com http://www.national.com http://www.thriffty.com http://www.avis.com http://www.hertz.com
et il y en a d'autres😉
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
salut mika,
J'espere que celui qui conduit a plus de 25 ans, autrement, compte 20$ supplémentaires par jour de location.
Un conseil; prend un hotel sur le strip de Vegas, ça t'evitera de louer la voiture pendant la durée de ton séjour dans cette ville (Voiture inutile dans des villes comme Vegas, ou NYC)
J'espere que celui qui conduit a plus de 25 ans, autrement, compte 20$ supplémentaires par jour de location.
Un conseil; prend un hotel sur le strip de Vegas, ça t'evitera de louer la voiture pendant la durée de ton séjour dans cette ville (Voiture inutile dans des villes comme Vegas, ou NYC)
Le temps est un grand maitre, dit-on. Le malheur est qu'il tue ses élèves.. .
Salut ! 🙂
Je viens d'apprendre 2 trucs sur un forum où ça parle de bagnoles :
1. Louer une voiture au gichet de Avis France par ex. coûte moins cher que par internet (?)
2. Un bon plan serait de réserver le modèle de voiture le plus petit (subcompact ou economy). Comme ils en ont rarement une fois sur place, ils te filent une plus grosse pour le prix de la petite. Exemple : le forumeur en question avait reservé pour une economy et il s'est retrouvé avec une luxury !!! 😎 Bon, c'est sûr que tu peux mal tomber et te retrouver avec ta femme et tes 4 gamins dans une Chevy Aveo 3 portes ! 😏
Je viens d'apprendre 2 trucs sur un forum où ça parle de bagnoles :
1. Louer une voiture au gichet de Avis France par ex. coûte moins cher que par internet (?)
2. Un bon plan serait de réserver le modèle de voiture le plus petit (subcompact ou economy). Comme ils en ont rarement une fois sur place, ils te filent une plus grosse pour le prix de la petite. Exemple : le forumeur en question avait reservé pour une economy et il s'est retrouvé avec une luxury !!! 😎 Bon, c'est sûr que tu peux mal tomber et te retrouver avec ta femme et tes 4 gamins dans une Chevy Aveo 3 portes ! 😏
"Le bout du monde et le fond du jardin contiennent la même quantité de merveilles : l'essentiel n'est rien d'autre que ce que l'on néglige".
Christian Bobin
1. Louer une voiture au gichet de Avis France par ex. coûte moins cher que par internet (?) Louer une voiture au guichet de Avis France aux USA ?
2. Un bon plan serait de réserver le modèle de voiture le plus petit (subcompact ou economy). Comme ils en ont rarement une fois sur place, ils te filent une plus grosse pour le prix de la petite. Exemple : le forumeur en question avait reservé pour une economy et il s'est retrouvé avec une luxury !!! 😎 Bon, c'est sûr que tu peux mal tomber et te retrouver avec ta femme et tes 4 gamins dans une Chevy Aveo 3 portes ! 😏 J'allais le dire 😕
Et c'est quoi l'adresse de ton forum où ça parle de bagnole ?
2. Un bon plan serait de réserver le modèle de voiture le plus petit (subcompact ou economy). Comme ils en ont rarement une fois sur place, ils te filent une plus grosse pour le prix de la petite. Exemple : le forumeur en question avait reservé pour une economy et il s'est retrouvé avec une luxury !!! 😎 Bon, c'est sûr que tu peux mal tomber et te retrouver avec ta femme et tes 4 gamins dans une Chevy Aveo 3 portes ! 😏 J'allais le dire 😕
Et c'est quoi l'adresse de ton forum où ça parle de bagnole ?
pas vraiment, car lorsque tu arrives au comptoir, on te demande toujours si tu veux une voiture plus grosse...là, tu marchandes a fond, et tu peux obtenir un bon prix😉
Je suis un peu sceptique pour l'énorme saut entre une economy et une luxury..😕
Une fois, lorsque je suis arrivée une compagnie (très peu connue, peu chère et dont je tairais le nom) n'avait pas la voiture réservée plusieurs mois plus tôt, mais pas payée; Ils m'ont proposé une plus grande à mes frais, ce que j'ai refusé... et je me suis retrouvée a reprendre la navette dans l'autre sens, a chercher une voiture a Las Vegas un jour de convention, et j'en ai eu une à prix très fort en direct au comptoir de chez Dollar😕`
Comme quoi, il vaut mieux payer d'avance, avoir son voucher, et là en cas de manque de voiture, on te donne le modèle au dessus, ou ils se debrouillent pour t'en trouver une😛
Je suis un peu sceptique pour l'énorme saut entre une economy et une luxury..😕
Une fois, lorsque je suis arrivée une compagnie (très peu connue, peu chère et dont je tairais le nom) n'avait pas la voiture réservée plusieurs mois plus tôt, mais pas payée; Ils m'ont proposé une plus grande à mes frais, ce que j'ai refusé... et je me suis retrouvée a reprendre la navette dans l'autre sens, a chercher une voiture a Las Vegas un jour de convention, et j'en ai eu une à prix très fort en direct au comptoir de chez Dollar😕`
Comme quoi, il vaut mieux payer d'avance, avoir son voucher, et là en cas de manque de voiture, on te donne le modèle au dessus, ou ils se debrouillent pour t'en trouver une😛
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
D'accord...🙂
Le forumeur en question dit qu'il a eu une cadillac (modèle ?) à la place de sa subcompact, avec photos à l'appui.
Mais bon... c'est un forum : chacun raconte ce qu'il veut, ce ne serait pas la première fois...😉
Le forumeur en question dit qu'il a eu une cadillac (modèle ?) à la place de sa subcompact, avec photos à l'appui.
Mais bon... c'est un forum : chacun raconte ce qu'il veut, ce ne serait pas la première fois...😉
"Le bout du monde et le fond du jardin contiennent la même quantité de merveilles : l'essentiel n'est rien d'autre que ce que l'on néglige".
Christian Bobin
c'est vrai ça...il ne faut pas croire toutes les infos miracles d'un forum...😛
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Oui, j'suis de mauvaise humeur aujourd'hui.
http://www.forum-auto.com/sqlforum/section1/sujet298918-140.htm
Par contre, je ne retrouve pas le post précis, je crains qu'il faille se taper tous le topic qui est très très long, mais comme il est interessant aussi, ça peut se faire. L'image qu'il a mise n'apparait pas (j'aurais pu la retrouver comme ça) mais elle est en pièce jointe "imageshack" ou un truc comme ça...j'y connais rien.
Je retourne chercher, si je trouve avant, je reviens dare-dare.
Par contre, je ne retrouve pas le post précis, je crains qu'il faille se taper tous le topic qui est très très long, mais comme il est interessant aussi, ça peut se faire. L'image qu'il a mise n'apparait pas (j'aurais pu la retrouver comme ça) mais elle est en pièce jointe "imageshack" ou un truc comme ça...j'y connais rien.
Je retourne chercher, si je trouve avant, je reviens dare-dare.
"Le bout du monde et le fond du jardin contiennent la même quantité de merveilles : l'essentiel n'est rien d'autre que ce que l'on néglige".
Christian Bobin
oui... et il avait une full size de reservée... pas une economy😛
Tu vois, tu rêves même en lisant😉😛
Tu vois, tu rêves même en lisant😉😛
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Mais non.... tu ne pouvais pas savoir qu'une Taurus, c'est dans la classe full size😉
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Bonjour,
Moi je crois que si mon pseudo était une marque de voitures.....j'aurais su que Ford Taurus = full size 😏
Alors dans le même lot il y a aussi : Buick La Crosse (qui a remplacé la Century) Dodge Intrepid, Chevrolet Impala, et puis qq japonaises quand les loueurs en ont : Toyota Camry, Nissan Altima, Honda Accord (très rare chez un loueur), voire même Hyunday Sonata.
Non, je le jure, j'étais pas au salon de Detroit !!😊
Allez roulez petits bolides
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Bwarf ! c'est nul ! "Chevrolet" a été le premier mot qui m'est venu lors du choix du pseudo... je me fous pas mal des bagnoles.
Et pis d'abord, laissez-moi tranquille, j'suis pas content. Je sens que mon projet de voyage est en train de m'échapper de plus en plus... alors faut pas m'énerver !!!! 🏴☠️
(J'déconne, hein ! 😛)
Et pis d'abord, laissez-moi tranquille, j'suis pas content. Je sens que mon projet de voyage est en train de m'échapper de plus en plus... alors faut pas m'énerver !!!! 🏴☠️
(J'déconne, hein ! 😛)
"Le bout du monde et le fond du jardin contiennent la même quantité de merveilles : l'essentiel n'est rien d'autre que ce que l'on néglige".
Christian Bobin
Même pas vrai, na 😄
Seuls les vrais connaisseurs parlent de "Chevy" ! tu t'es trahi !😛
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
par autoescape www.autoescape.com demander la reduction du guide routard :5%
il lui suffisait de voir une carte pour se mettre à l'étudier avec passion, puis, invariablement, il commençait à projeter quelque nouveau voyage impossible, qui, parfois, se transformait en réalité. »
PAUL BOWLES : « Un Thé au Sahara »
merci pour ces réponses!
j'ai régardé les prix et dollar me semble vraiment pas cher comme agence, est-ce la moins chère? et parmis les suivantes, laquelle serait la mieux : avis, dollar, budget, alamo, hertz et thrifty ??? je ne connais vraiment pas les loueurs, alors à qui faire confiance ?? et c'est possible de louer dans une ville et de la rendre dans une autre ? par exemple commencer a san francisco et finir a los angeles, mais la on loupe la cote de la californie et la US 1, c'est vraiment dommage ou pas?
merci d'avance pour vos nouvelles réponses !!!
stef 🙂
mika
Bonjour, 🙂
Je ne ferai que te répeter ce que j'ai moi-même appris ici : Dollar semble pas cher, mais le prix qu'ils annoncent est sans la LIS (assurance indispensable). Donc il faut rajouter 13$/jour... ce qui amène le tarif au même niveau que les autres loueurs où tout est inclus. Tu peux prendre une voiture à un endroit et la rendre à un autre mais c'est plus cher (ou plus dispendieux comme disent nos amis québecois 😛). Voilà. Fais donc un p'tit tour sur les topics où ça parle de locations de voiture, tu y apprendras plein de choses interessantes 🙂
Je ne ferai que te répeter ce que j'ai moi-même appris ici : Dollar semble pas cher, mais le prix qu'ils annoncent est sans la LIS (assurance indispensable). Donc il faut rajouter 13$/jour... ce qui amène le tarif au même niveau que les autres loueurs où tout est inclus. Tu peux prendre une voiture à un endroit et la rendre à un autre mais c'est plus cher (ou plus dispendieux comme disent nos amis québecois 😛). Voilà. Fais donc un p'tit tour sur les topics où ça parle de locations de voiture, tu y apprendras plein de choses interessantes 🙂
"Le bout du monde et le fond du jardin contiennent la même quantité de merveilles : l'essentiel n'est rien d'autre que ce que l'on néglige".
Christian Bobin
Bonjour Stef,
Si tu visites tous les sites de loueurs, ils sont tous plus beaux l'un que l'autre ! Par contre en faisant une simulation de location, leurs devis n'incluent pas souvent les 2 suppléments indispensables d'assurance c.a.d la CDW collision damage waiver qui supprime la franchise en cas d'accident et de dommage A LA VOITURE. Ceci est parfois indiqué - ou inclus - dans les devis sous forme de xx$/jour. la LIS Liability Insurance Supplement qui a pour objet de monter la responsabilité civile du conducteur du minimum de base (250 000$ au mieux) à 1 million $ pour couvrir les dégats soit à des biens mais surtout à des personnes en cas d'accident sérieux ! Quand on connait les habitudes des citoyens US qui font un procès à 1/2 million pour un pet de travers....cette LIS est vraiment IMPERATIVE -si toutefois on a envie de rouler tranquille ....🤪 Cette LIS n'est JAMAIS incluse dans un devis de loueur.
Par contre les courtiers du genre Autoescape, Holidayauto etc donnent TOUJOURS un devis incluant les deux. D'où les différences !
Pour l'abandon d'une auto ailleurs que le point de location : c'est gratuit en Californie et entre Las Vegas et Californie. Par contre louer à Denver par ex. et rendre à Vegas vaut au moins 300$ de surcoût !!
Comme te l'a dit Tevas, tu trouveras plein de posts à ce sujet dans ce forum !
Par contre les courtiers du genre Autoescape, Holidayauto etc donnent TOUJOURS un devis incluant les deux. D'où les différences !
Pour l'abandon d'une auto ailleurs que le point de location : c'est gratuit en Californie et entre Las Vegas et Californie. Par contre louer à Denver par ex. et rendre à Vegas vaut au moins 300$ de surcoût !!
Comme te l'a dit Tevas, tu trouveras plein de posts à ce sujet dans ce forum !
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Bonjour,
Exemple : Location d'une voiture compacte, à l'aéroport de Los Angeles, du 4 oct. au 23 oct. soit 19j. de loc.
-DOLLAR 574€ 444$ (CDW) + 19j. x 13$ (LIS) = 691$ soit 574€ -ALAMO 571€ (CDW+LIS) -AUTOESCAPE 670€ (CDW+LIS) - AUTOEUROPE 430€ (CDW+EP) !!!!!!
Je précise que pour les modèles compacts, Autoeurope passe par Alamo. Chez Alamo, il n'y a pas de LIS mais une EP (Extended Protection) qui ramène l'assurance à 1.000.000$, donc c'est pareil. Seul le terme change. J'ai demandé à Autoeurope comment ça se faisait que, passant par Alamo, ils étaient moins chers que quand on passait directement par Alamo. Ils m'ont répondu que c'était parce qu'ils leur amenaient plein de clients, donc ils ont des tarifs préférentiels.
La différence est quand même assez importante : 141€ !
Si quelqu'un y comprend quelque chose, faites-le nous savoir !!! 🙂
Exemple : Location d'une voiture compacte, à l'aéroport de Los Angeles, du 4 oct. au 23 oct. soit 19j. de loc.
-DOLLAR 574€ 444$ (CDW) + 19j. x 13$ (LIS) = 691$ soit 574€ -ALAMO 571€ (CDW+LIS) -AUTOESCAPE 670€ (CDW+LIS) - AUTOEUROPE 430€ (CDW+EP) !!!!!!

Je précise que pour les modèles compacts, Autoeurope passe par Alamo. Chez Alamo, il n'y a pas de LIS mais une EP (Extended Protection) qui ramène l'assurance à 1.000.000$, donc c'est pareil. Seul le terme change. J'ai demandé à Autoeurope comment ça se faisait que, passant par Alamo, ils étaient moins chers que quand on passait directement par Alamo. Ils m'ont répondu que c'était parce qu'ils leur amenaient plein de clients, donc ils ont des tarifs préférentiels.
La différence est quand même assez importante : 141€ !
Si quelqu'un y comprend quelque chose, faites-le nous savoir !!! 🙂
"Le bout du monde et le fond du jardin contiennent la même quantité de merveilles : l'essentiel n'est rien d'autre que ce que l'on néglige".
Christian Bobin
Tu as oublié Holidayautos!!!!!😛😛😛
En général le tarif est correct.. parfois pas de drop off à partir de certaines villes où d'autres compagnies le pratiquent... Denver for exemple
A ta souris Chevy 😛😛😛😛😛😛
En général le tarif est correct.. parfois pas de drop off à partir de certaines villes où d'autres compagnies le pratiquent... Denver for exemple
A ta souris Chevy 😛😛😛😛😛😛
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
😛😛😛
Tout ça, c'est bien joli, mais ça dépend du moment où tu réserves pas rapport au moment où tu pars😉
ça dépend s'il y a un drop off ou non.. etc etc.Les tarifs ne restent pas statiques pour les 6 mois où ils sont en ligne.
Par exemple, j'ai réservé tôt une full size cher holidays, 800 euros, formule gold, pas les 300$ de drop off qu'appliquaient les autres que tu as cités et tout ça pour 24 jours...elle est mainenant a 950 €.
Je pense que toutes ces compagnies se valent et qu'il faut louer quand on a les dates en cherchant toutes les possibilités et non pas en allant directement sur la compagnie qu'on a repérée mois plus tôt et qui était la moins chère à ce moment là..
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Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
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After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan






