États-Unis: passage à l'immigration étant voilée
by Mikaracyan
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Je pars à New York courant Avril.Je stress a mort car j'ai un nom arabe de plus je suis voilée. Je fais ce voyage pour faire plaisir surtout à mon fils. C'est son rêve les USA.
Est-ce-que vous savez comment ça se passe à l'immigration.j'ai gardé un mauvais souvenir de mon voyage en Nouvelle Zélande. J'avais l'impression que j'étais une terro.merci
Bonjour Frida,
Qu'entends tu par voilée, c'est à dire quel type de voile ? Quelle partie de ton visage est cachée?
Bonne soirée.
Si le chemin est difficile, le difficile est le chemin.
Hello Frida,
Et est-ce que c'est si terrible que ça d'enlever ton voile au moment du passage devant l'officier d'immigration ???
Et est-ce que c'est si terrible que ça d'enlever ton voile au moment du passage devant l'officier d'immigration ???
Tu ne seras certainement pas la seule ce jour là, tu peux y aller tranquille et si tu dois être interpellée ça ne sera certainement pas à cause de ton voile.
Have fun !
Hello Frida,
Et est-ce que c'est si terrible que ça d'enlever ton voile au moment du passage devant l'officier d'immigration ???
Ce n'est pas ce qu'elle dit hein ou on ne comprend pas la même chose.
Et est-ce que c'est si terrible que ça d'enlever ton voile au moment du passage devant l'officier d'immigration ???
Ce n'est pas ce qu'elle dit hein ou on ne comprend pas la même chose.
Bonsoir,
Pour avoir déjà assisté au passage immigration de femmes voilées, je peux te dire qu'il font dévoiler le visage pour la photo.
Bon voyage
Pour avoir déjà assisté au passage immigration de femmes voilées, je peux te dire qu'il font dévoiler le visage pour la photo.
Bon voyage
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Pas de probleme en principe, il faut juste que ton visage ne soit pas couvert, mais le foulard standard ça passe, les femmes du moyen orient (arabie, ect) n'ont pas de soucis.
Si tu as ton ESTA/VISA valide, ça devrait etre good, peut etre des questions supplementaires de l'officier d'immigration, juste ne pas mentir, et rester Zen.
j'ai gardé un mauvais souvenir de mon voyage en Nouvelle Zélande.
Comment cela s'est-il déroulé à ce moment là pour le passage à l'immigration ? 😮
Comment cela s'est-il déroulé à ce moment là pour le passage à l'immigration ? 😮
Conseils pour circuits dans l'Ouest américain : https://voyageforum.com/forum/conseils_etablir_son_circuit_dans_ouest_americain_resume_D5303777/
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j'ai le même feeling
j'ai le même feeling
Tout est OK niveau papiers, réservations, hôtel. Mis a part mon foulard, je m'habille comme la plus part des femmes.jeans, pantalons. Bref , peu être que la conjoncture actuelle fait que je stresse pour rien. Merci pour la réponse.
Comme écrit plus haut, impossible de répondre : l'officier d'immigration a tous les pouvoirs à ce niveau-là. Il y a quelques semaines était rapportée sur le forum l'histoire d'une personne refoulée pour cause de pantalon taché dans sa valise (assimilé à une tenue de travail et donc à un clandestin).
Si ça peut rassurer, les US désapprouvent les mesures sur le voile en Europe
Bien sur que j'en sais rien nul est à l'abri après faut arrêter se poser cent mille questions sinon on reste chez soi, y a pas lieu de s’inquiéter sauf si on a quelque chose à se reprocher !!
Comme écrit plus haut, impossible de répondre : l'officier d'immigration a tous les pouvoirs à ce niveau-là. Il y a quelques semaines était rapportée sur le forum l'histoire d'une personne refoulée pour cause de pantalon taché dans sa valise (assimilé à une tenue de travail et donc à un clandestin).
Si ça peut rassurer, les US désapprouvent les mesures sur le voile en Europe
Absolument !
Absolument !
Bonjour,
Ce n'est pas un débat sur le port du voile mais une question sur l'attitude de l'immigration US vis à vis du port du voile. Comme d'habitude beaucoup parlent sans savoir ou par conviction personnelle. Pour l'avoir vu une fois, effectivement le contour du visage doit être dégagé pour être scanné certainement pour une reconnaissance faciale.
Ce n'est pas un débat sur le port du voile mais une question sur l'attitude de l'immigration US vis à vis du port du voile. Comme d'habitude beaucoup parlent sans savoir ou par conviction personnelle. Pour l'avoir vu une fois, effectivement le contour du visage doit être dégagé pour être scanné certainement pour une reconnaissance faciale.
Débat sur le voile ? 🏴☠️ on ne se connait pas alors merci de ne pas m'attribuer des propos ou convictions perso !
Fin de la discussion
Fin de la discussion
Je laisse mes petits camarades spéculer, imaginer, penser, croire, imaginer plein de choses au sujet de votre demande, voire répondre à côté ou friser le code à propos de ce que vous devriez faire ou pas... et pendant ce temps je suis allé chercher pour vous sur Internet (pas bien difficile à trouver ceci dit en entrant le bons mots en anglais dans un moteur de recherche) la réponse officielle émanant du gouvernement US et qui dit :
In most cases, your head must be uncovered; however headwear that you normally wear for religious reasons is generally acceptable. Headwear that you wear for other reasons is not acceptable. Your full face must be visible, and the head covering must not cast any shadows on your face. A veil that covers all or significant portions of the face is not acceptable because the person’s identity needs to be clear.
Voilà. Comme ça c'est clair. Bon voyage.
In most cases, your head must be uncovered; however headwear that you normally wear for religious reasons is generally acceptable. Headwear that you wear for other reasons is not acceptable. Your full face must be visible, and the head covering must not cast any shadows on your face. A veil that covers all or significant portions of the face is not acceptable because the person’s identity needs to be clear.
Voilà. Comme ça c'est clair. Bon voyage.
Le plus factuelle , et visiblement je n'ai pas vu la question, comment est la photo du passeport
Si c'est sans le voile je ne vois pas comment un officier d'immigration ou que ce soit pourra laisser passer la "même personne" étant voilée si il ne peut pas faire une vérification entre le passeport et la "présente"
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
J'ai été témoin il y un mois que l'agent immigration américain a l'aéroport a exigé qu'une femme voilée retire son voile avant de passer la frontière.
Elle a refusé de lever son voile devant un homme😕🏴☠️😠 mais l'agent lui a dit d'attendre qu'une femme-agent arrive...lors du prochain quart de travail quelques heures plus tard.
La voilé a sûrement manqué son vol.
La vie est trop belle pour être petite.
Tout est OK niveau papiers, réservations, hôtel. Mis a part mon foulard, je m'habille comme la plus part des femmes.jeans, pantalons. Bref , peu être que la conjoncture actuelle fait que je stresse pour rien. Merci pour la réponse.
Tu as bien enlevé ton voile pour faire la photo de ton passeport... Il est donc possible qu'on te demande de l'enlever le temps de l'identification, ce qui est normal et logique.
Tu as bien enlevé ton voile pour faire la photo de ton passeport... Il est donc possible qu'on te demande de l'enlever le temps de l'identification, ce qui est normal et logique.
C'est pourquoi je lui avait posé la question du type de voile qu'elle portait, car, si c'est un voile couvrant les cheveux, il n'y a pas de souci, mais impossible avec un voile ne laissant voir que les yeux, d'ailleurs ce type de voile n'est certainement pas sur le passeport.
Moi aussi j'ai vu à JFK passer une dame avec un voile intégral et elle l'a simplement soulevé devant l’officier qui avait à la main son passeport et a ainsi pu faire la comparaison.
Voilà, le tout ne me semble pas compliqué et surtout de bon sens.
Si le chemin est difficile, le difficile est le chemin.
however headwear that you normally wear for religious reasons is generally acceptable.
Comme ça c'est clair.
On comprend effectivement clairement que l'agent d'immigration aura le dernier mot, malgré ce que tout le monde pourrait dire ici 😉
On comprend effectivement clairement que l'agent d'immigration aura le dernier mot, malgré ce que tout le monde pourrait dire ici 😉
Faby
Le seul qui puisse repondre a cette question est l'officier d immigration qui la controlera a l'arrivee....tout le reste n'est que speculation.....cela me fait sourire que beaucoup ici s'intronisent officier d immigration alors qu'ils n'ont ni qualification ni connaissance pour pouvoir repondre a cette question.... Frida (Prenom de la personne ayant ouvert ce topic ) peut tres bien etre admise sans probleme sur le territoire Us , mais elle peut aussi etre refoulee sans aucune explication....
Bonsoir Jean-Luc,
Seulement pour parler de l'Agent d'immigration.
Il y a quelques annees je revenais aux US apres un voyage en Europe, et il y avait une femme qui pleurait parceque l'officier d'immagration lui avait refuse l'entree aux USA. Je n'en connais pas la raison, mais il certain que si un officier refuse l'entree aucun autre officier n'ira contraire a sa decision. Les decisions sont finales.
Ces officiers ont une responsabilite et c'est a eux de l'exercer. Etre amis aux USA n'est pas une garantie et tous ceux qui se presentent aux frontieres devraient le savoir.
Nous passerons a Gunnison au mois de Juin, peut etre aurons nous le plaisir de prendre un Coca ensemble😄😎
Cordialement
Alex
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How heavy do I journey on the way,
When what I seek (my weary travel’s end)
Shakespeare sonnet 50, vers 1- 2.
je pense que le mieux c'est de retirer ta voile, à l'immigration et aussi en général aux USA.
tu risque moins de passer pour une terroriste...
Dans tous les pays aux passage de l'immigration une femme voilée doit enlever son voile afin que l'on puisse vérifier la concordance entre son visage et la photo sur le passeport.
Dans certain pays la personne voilée peut demander une officier d'immigration femme dans d'autre non.
Je me souviens à GVA la personne voilée n'a pas voulu enlever son voile devant l'officier d'immigration la réponse a été retour d'ou elle venait .
Mais on sait tous que l'officier a tout pouvoir de refouler sans justification, pas besoin d'être ricain pour savoir ça !
Edit, ça ne s'adressait pas à Protège.
Edit, ça ne s'adressait pas à Protège.
Moi aussi j'ai vu à JFK passer une dame avec un voile intégral et elle l'a simplement soulevé devant l’officier qui avait à la main son passeport et a ainsi pu faire la comparaison.
Voilà, le tout ne me semble pas compliqué et surtout de bon sens.
C'est tout à fait ça, j'ai assisté deux fois à ce type de passage à l'immigration (à Washington), et comme je l'ai évoqué plus haut, les femmes en question ont dû montrer brièvement leur visage pour comparaison avec le passeport et pour la traditionnelle photo.
C'est tout à fait ça, j'ai assisté deux fois à ce type de passage à l'immigration (à Washington), et comme je l'ai évoqué plus haut, les femmes en question ont dû montrer brièvement leur visage pour comparaison avec le passeport et pour la traditionnelle photo.
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Je serai officier de l immigration, ça serait non.La situation actuelle impose des contrôles très stricts (caméra et prise d empreintes, fouille)aux aéroports. Ce n est pas la peine d'en rajouter...
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M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
Hi everyone,
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
Thanks for your feedback.