Bonjour,
Je cherche en vain la signification des cocardes bleu-blanc-rouge qui décorent certains magasins de l'Ouest américain.
Quelqu'un aurait-il des précisions à ce sujet ?
Merci.
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Signification des cocardes tricolores de certains magasins de l'Ouest américain?
by Joelle01500
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
C'est uniquement l'équivalent du drapeau américain ? C'est ce qu'il faut comprendre ?
Rien de plus ?
bonjour, 🙂
les trois couleurs sont communes au deux drapeaux comme l'illustre Panisse c'est donc assez naturel.... mais il y a peut -être en effet petite histoire parallèle de la cocarde .
La cocarde au départ était un symbole militaire et les Révolutionnaires Américains portaient surtout une cocarde noire ( comme les Britanniques) puis noire et blanche en l'honneur de la monarchie française quand celle-ci les a soutenus.
Puis La Fayette a imposé la cocarde tricolore à Louis XVI en 1789 et la cocarde tricolore est devenu un symbole de la France. Si bien que les Américains en dehors des militaires se mirent à porter une cocarde tricolore à leur tricorne ou bicorne en signe de reconnaissance pour le soutien reçu. Vers 1997 une crise est apparue entre la France et les Etats Unis et il semble qu'il y ait des bisbilles à l'époque entre ceux qui veulent revenir à la cocarde noire. La cocarde tricolore aurait temporairement disparu des bicornes. Quelques années plus tard , nouvelle guerre entre Britanniques et Américains. Encore un peu plus tard La Fayette fait sa tournée triomphale aux Etats Unis la cocarde est de nouveau en faveur. Puis on n'a plus porté de cocardes au chapeau et on les a utilisées pour les fêtes populaires... oû elles se confondent avec la bannière étoilée....
Durant la première guerre mondiale l'aviation française est la première à marquer ses avions d'une cocarde, la cocarde tricolore, les Britanniques suivent avec un ordre différent et les pilotes Américains même après l'entrée en guerre des Etats Unis en 1917 portaient aussi une cocarde tricolore sur leur avion , en tous cas en Europe. Mais c'est une autre histoire..
Je n'en sais pas plus😐....
cochize
les trois couleurs sont communes au deux drapeaux comme l'illustre Panisse c'est donc assez naturel.... mais il y a peut -être en effet petite histoire parallèle de la cocarde .
La cocarde au départ était un symbole militaire et les Révolutionnaires Américains portaient surtout une cocarde noire ( comme les Britanniques) puis noire et blanche en l'honneur de la monarchie française quand celle-ci les a soutenus.
Puis La Fayette a imposé la cocarde tricolore à Louis XVI en 1789 et la cocarde tricolore est devenu un symbole de la France. Si bien que les Américains en dehors des militaires se mirent à porter une cocarde tricolore à leur tricorne ou bicorne en signe de reconnaissance pour le soutien reçu. Vers 1997 une crise est apparue entre la France et les Etats Unis et il semble qu'il y ait des bisbilles à l'époque entre ceux qui veulent revenir à la cocarde noire. La cocarde tricolore aurait temporairement disparu des bicornes. Quelques années plus tard , nouvelle guerre entre Britanniques et Américains. Encore un peu plus tard La Fayette fait sa tournée triomphale aux Etats Unis la cocarde est de nouveau en faveur. Puis on n'a plus porté de cocardes au chapeau et on les a utilisées pour les fêtes populaires... oû elles se confondent avec la bannière étoilée....
Durant la première guerre mondiale l'aviation française est la première à marquer ses avions d'une cocarde, la cocarde tricolore, les Britanniques suivent avec un ordre différent et les pilotes Américains même après l'entrée en guerre des Etats Unis en 1917 portaient aussi une cocarde tricolore sur leur avion , en tous cas en Europe. Mais c'est une autre histoire..
Je n'en sais pas plus😐....
cochize
Suite des "Rencontres insolites avec des grizzlys, chercheurs d'or et autres dans l'Ouest Américain" (26 février 2009)
C'est uniquement l'équivalent du drapeau américain ? C'est ce qu'il faut comprendre ?
Rien de plus ?
A mon avis non, rien de plus...
A mon avis non, rien de plus...
Circuit dans l'Ouest : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2744058
Floride-Louisiane : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3536861
Une semaine à New York : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4550454
New York, again http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5593646
C'est uniquement l'équivalent du drapeau américain ? C'est ce qu'il faut comprendre ?
Rien de plus ?
Effectivement, c'est un rappel des trois couleurs de leur drapeau dont il se trouve que ce sont les mêmes que les nôtres.
Effectivement, c'est un rappel des trois couleurs de leur drapeau dont il se trouve que ce sont les mêmes que les nôtres.
Ah mais si!! je sais encore une chose en tant qu'ancien membre🙂 à vie de Les Conscrits en Beaujolais c'est que la cocarde républicaine 
qui doit se trouver au fond d'un tiroir ou d'un carton du grenier et que je portais alors à la boutonnière en parcourant joyeusement les rues de la ville
.... était quasiment identique à la 'patriotic cockade' que ces Américains en costume des années 1860 portent à la boutonnière
laquelle est aussi rouge-blanc-bleu ( de l'extérieur vers l'intérieur) comme le montre cet original à l'effigie de Washington(même si les couleurs ont passé)
ou à celle que l'on trouve ici au centre
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et qui pourrait être française comme le dit l'article. Celles de droite et de gauche sont des variations sur le thème que l'on ne trouve pas en principe pas en France car le bleu doit être à l'intérieur et sans étoiles bien sûr
on pourrait appeler çà un aleas historique
qui doit se trouver au fond d'un tiroir ou d'un carton du grenier et que je portais alors à la boutonnière en parcourant joyeusement les rues de la ville
.... était quasiment identique à la 'patriotic cockade' que ces Américains en costume des années 1860 portent à la boutonnière
laquelle est aussi rouge-blanc-bleu ( de l'extérieur vers l'intérieur) comme le montre cet original à l'effigie de Washington(même si les couleurs ont passé)
ou à celle que l'on trouve ici au centre
iniatures.about.com/ od/miniatureprojects/ig/...
et qui pourrait être française comme le dit l'article. Celles de droite et de gauche sont des variations sur le thème que l'on ne trouve pas en principe pas en France car le bleu doit être à l'intérieur et sans étoiles bien sûr
on pourrait appeler çà un aleas historique
Suite des "Rencontres insolites avec des grizzlys, chercheurs d'or et autres dans l'Ouest Américain" (26 février 2009)
Je pense que je me suis mal expliquée, c'est de ça dont je parle:
J'en suis arrivée à me demander si ça n'avait pas un rapport étroit avec les Indiens, mais je n'ai pas trouvé si j'avais raison et si c'est le cas, la raison.
J'en suis arrivée à me demander si ça n'avait pas un rapport étroit avec les Indiens, mais je n'ai pas trouvé si j'avais raison et si c'est le cas, la raison.
pourquoi un lien avec les Amérindiens?
on ne voit vraiment pas...
à mon avis il s'agit toujours de la même source :les trois couleurs nationales américaines mais arrangées d'une manière différente de ce qu'était probablement la cocarde originale (précédent message). Cocardes de chapeau au départ, d'habit ou de robes, voire de chaussures , rubans, guirlandes, banderoles etc etc..
à mon avis il s'agit toujours de la même source :les trois couleurs nationales américaines mais arrangées d'une manière différente de ce qu'était probablement la cocarde originale (précédent message). Cocardes de chapeau au départ, d'habit ou de robes, voire de chaussures , rubans, guirlandes, banderoles etc etc..
Suite des "Rencontres insolites avec des grizzlys, chercheurs d'or et autres dans l'Ouest Américain" (26 février 2009)
Pour ceux et celles qui lisent l'anglais, une histoire intéressante sur les cocardes (cockades en anglais)
http://www.glanced.org/Cockade/encyclopedia.htm
http://www.glanced.org/Cockade/encyclopedia.htm
Ca n'a absolument rien a faire avec les Indiens et on le voit partout dans le pays, non seulement dans l'ouest. Il s'appele "bunting" en anglais. Cockade est plutot pour le petit truc attache au chapeau ou aux vetements. On voit le bunting partout pour le 4 juillet. Aussi, aux stades de sport pendant des evenements speciaux comme le match des All-Stars de baseball.
Salut,
Va m'endormir ce soir plus savant grâce à toi🙂
Merriam Webster donne comme définition: decorations especially in the colors of the national flag
Et de très jolies photos ici: http://www.flagandbanner.com/fab/flag.asp?cpage=bunting1
Va m'endormir ce soir plus savant grâce à toi🙂
Merriam Webster donne comme définition: decorations especially in the colors of the national flag
Et de très jolies photos ici: http://www.flagandbanner.com/fab/flag.asp?cpage=bunting1
Et de très jolies photos ici: http://www.flagandbanner.com/...g.asp?cpage=bunting1
Et moi, grace aux photos, j'aurai des cauchemars cette nuit!😮
Et moi, grace aux photos, j'aurai des cauchemars cette nuit!😮
Pourquoi un cauchemar?
Pcq'il y en a trop? Trop c'est trop, comme dirait l'autre?
Pourtant à force d'en (le en peut être n'importe quoi) voir, on ne le voit plus.
Bons rêves 😉😛
A mon avis, ce pays est trop patriotique.
Pcq'il y en a trop? Trop c'est trop, comme dirait l'autre?
Pourtant à force d'en (le en peut être n'importe quoi) voir, on ne le voit plus.
Bons rêves 😉😛
A mon avis, ce pays est trop patriotique.
😉 Les Américains sont fiers de l'être, ils aiment leur pays, ils savent le faire aimer également, à mon avis il faut chercher pourquoi ce n'est pas ainsi en France ... Ce qui "cloche" est ici, pas là-bas !
Pourquoi un cauchemar?
Pcq'il y en a trop? Trop c'est trop, comme dirait l'autre?
Pourtant à force d'en (le en peut être n'importe quoi) voir, on ne le voit plus.
Bons rêves 😉😛
A mon avis, ce pays est trop patriotique.
Je ne sais pas ce qu'il vaut mieux... Trop patriotique comme les américains ou pas du tout comme les français? Ici si tu affiches tes couleurs bleu, blanc, rouge, tu es considéré comme un beauf ou un facho 🤪. A part lorsque l'équipe de France de foot (soccer) gagne bien sûr 😛
Pcq'il y en a trop? Trop c'est trop, comme dirait l'autre?
Pourtant à force d'en (le en peut être n'importe quoi) voir, on ne le voit plus.
Bons rêves 😉😛
A mon avis, ce pays est trop patriotique.
Je ne sais pas ce qu'il vaut mieux... Trop patriotique comme les américains ou pas du tout comme les français? Ici si tu affiches tes couleurs bleu, blanc, rouge, tu es considéré comme un beauf ou un facho 🤪. A part lorsque l'équipe de France de foot (soccer) gagne bien sûr 😛
Il y a du bon et du moins bon dans les 2 cas. Le patiotisme qui incite a la solidarité, c'est bien. les siflets lorsque l'hymne national est joué c'est insultant envers tout le pays. Le patriotisme par contre peut etre utilisé comme n'importe quel truc en -isme pour devenir un instrument d'oppression. Croyez moi, l'ambiance vers 2002-2004, lorsque quiconque osant questionner la politique de l'administration Bush etait traité d'"antipatriote", presque de traitre a la nation, etait particulierement malsaine. Alors que le vrai patriotisme etait de poser les questions qui font mal.
Il faut aussi comprendre que les Etats-Unis n'ont pas vraiment connu les nationalismes étroits qui etaient la norme en Europe il y a encore un siecle. Alors quand les Américains disent etre fier de leur pays, etc, ce n'est pas vraiment comparable. En Europe il y avait une grande concurance, souvent sanglante, entre les pays les plus puissants (Allemagne, France, Royaume Uni), et le patriotisme etait souvent l'expression d'un nationalisme virulent, par ailleurs souvent exprimé dans les hymnes nationaux (le sang impur, le Deutschland über alles, etc)
Personellement le patriotisme américain m'a choqué au début mais je m'y suis habitué. je ne met pas de drapeau Américain ni Français sur ma maison etc, mais je traite toujours le drapeau avec respect. Et celui des autres aussi.
Il faut aussi comprendre que les Etats-Unis n'ont pas vraiment connu les nationalismes étroits qui etaient la norme en Europe il y a encore un siecle. Alors quand les Américains disent etre fier de leur pays, etc, ce n'est pas vraiment comparable. En Europe il y avait une grande concurance, souvent sanglante, entre les pays les plus puissants (Allemagne, France, Royaume Uni), et le patriotisme etait souvent l'expression d'un nationalisme virulent, par ailleurs souvent exprimé dans les hymnes nationaux (le sang impur, le Deutschland über alles, etc)
Personellement le patriotisme américain m'a choqué au début mais je m'y suis habitué. je ne met pas de drapeau Américain ni Français sur ma maison etc, mais je traite toujours le drapeau avec respect. Et celui des autres aussi.
BigKahuna
J'aurai à votre (ton) égard le même commentaire que celui de Néfer: "Chapeau", oui, vraiment et le mot est faible.
A ce propos, existet-il une traduction anglophone de cette expression ?
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Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026: Car rental – check, Hotels – check, Itinerary – almost check, Photo gear – check, Budget – check, 🤪 Meal planning – meh, we’ll see... Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth: The Longhorns and the Stockyards; JR’s ranch (for the missus); Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center: See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains: El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum: Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona: Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque: Santa Fe, Turquoise Trail, Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66: Old Route 66 in the city; Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
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And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
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Hi everyone! 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
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Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
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Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
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Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!