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Avis sur visite de San Francisco?
by FL2
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour à tous
Mon périple de trois semaines dans les parcs de l'ouest prévu en aout 2012 se termine par San Francisco.
Arrivant de Monterrey, j'envisage le planning suivant (hôtel prés de Union square):
Jour 1 : Après midi Twin Peaks et passer le Golden Gate, photos depuis Conzelman road (je rend la voiture en fin de journée)
Jour 2 : le matin Alcatraz, Fisherman Warf après midi Lombard street, Coit Tower, China Town (monter dans une tour pour une vue aérienne de SF si pas pu faire Twin Peaks)
Jour 3 : Matin ballade vélo jusqu'à Sausalito, retour ferry, après midi un bout du Golden Park , Alamo Square, Haigh Ashbury
Qu'en pensez vous, est ce réalisable, "optimisble" ?
Merci de votre aide
Une petite question complémentaire, j'ai cru lire que depuis certains buildings on pouvait avoir une belle vue aérienne de SF, quelqu'un aurait-il des infos ?
FL
FL
Pour twin peaks et le Golden Gate, il faudra voir en fonction de la météo, s'il fait moche ou bien qu'il y a beaucoup de brouillard il faudra changer de programme pour ton jour 1
Sinon, pour Alcatraz, je sais pas si tu as déjà réservé ta visite, mais celle du soir est vraiment sympa, c'est une ambiance très particulière et tu as accès à la partie hôpital que tu ne peux pas voir sur une autre visite. Depuis l'île tu as une belle vue sur la ville de nuit et idem au retour depuis le bateau (faut juste bien se couvrir, il fait pas chaud)
Sinon, pour Alcatraz, je sais pas si tu as déjà réservé ta visite, mais celle du soir est vraiment sympa, c'est une ambiance très particulière et tu as accès à la partie hôpital que tu ne peux pas voir sur une autre visite. Depuis l'île tu as une belle vue sur la ville de nuit et idem au retour depuis le bateau (faut juste bien se couvrir, il fait pas chaud)
Bonjour ,
Si vous arrivez par la route côtière n°1 il peut y avoir des bouchons pour arriver en ville , au moins à certaines heures . Nous y avions bien passé 1 h ou 2 pour rejoindre Lombard Street . 😕
Si vous arrivez par la route côtière n°1 il peut y avoir des bouchons pour arriver en ville , au moins à certaines heures . Nous y avions bien passé 1 h ou 2 pour rejoindre Lombard Street . 😕
Jour 1 : Après midi Twin Peaks et passer le Golden Gate, photos depuis Conzelman road (je rend la voiture en fin de journée)
Jour 2 : le matin Alcatraz, Fisherman Warf après midi Lombard street, Coit Tower, China Town (monter dans une tour pour une vue aérienne de SF si pas pu faire Twin Peaks)
Jour 3 : Matin ballade vélo jusqu'à Sausalito, retour ferry, après midi un bout du Golden Park , Alamo Square, Haigh Ashbury
Qu'en pensez vous, est ce réalisable, "optimisble" ?
Une petite question complémentaire, j'ai cru lire que depuis certains buildings on pouvait avoir une belle vue aérienne de SF, quelqu'un aurait-il des infos ?
FL
Bonjour,
Jour 1 est bon, sauf si le temps est nuageux, néanmoins il suffit d'attendre un peu des fois pour que les nuages se dissipent et pouvoir prendre ses photos.
Jour 2 : si tu veux faire Alcatraz, il faut réserver sur internet pour la première visite (il y a moins de monde). Après si vous voulez tout faire à pieds, vous risquez d'en avoir plein les jambes et devoir tout faire vite. Sur Fisherman, on a tendance à trainer dans les boutiques, et entre le pier 33 (ferry pour alcatraz) et Girardhelli square, ça peut prendre un peu de temps. Je suppose donc que vous prendrez un pass pour les bus. Pareil pour China town, si vous aimez farfouillez dans les boutiques, ça ralentit la promenade.
Jour 3 : la ballade à vélo est un excellent moyen de profiter de SF (en se dirigeant vers le pont la montée est terrible). Le Golden Gate Park est très grand (ne pas se fier à la carte qui est déformé). A la limite si vous décider de ne faire aucun musée, vous pouvez le faire en vélo. Alamo square, si je me souviens bien pour les Painted Ladies, ça prend 10 minutes pour les photos. Et haigh Ashbury (qui est à côté du parc) se visite rapidement (sauf si vous farfouillez dans les boutiques).
Ton programme est réalisable si vous ne trainez pas, si vous vous levez tôt et si la météo est bonne. Attention car le repas du midi prend souvent du temps.
Pour ce qui est des buildings, il y a un hôtel sur Union square qui a un ascenseur transparent et en montant on a une jolie vue (un nom du style westin francis), il y a plusieurs ascenseur et un seul est transparent. Sinon quand tu vois des hôtels bien placés, ne pas hésiter à rentrer et aller au dernier étage pour voir s'il y a une vue. La tour Transatlantic est fermée au public (contrairement à ce qui est marqué sur mon routard). Tu peux également monter au Cheesecake Factory au dernier étage de chez Macy's sur Union Square pour avoir une belle vue de la place (de jour comme le soir, et la nourriture est vraiment bonne).
Bon voyage
Une petite question complémentaire, j'ai cru lire que depuis certains buildings on pouvait avoir une belle vue aérienne de SF, quelqu'un aurait-il des infos ?
FL
Bonjour,
Jour 1 est bon, sauf si le temps est nuageux, néanmoins il suffit d'attendre un peu des fois pour que les nuages se dissipent et pouvoir prendre ses photos.
Jour 2 : si tu veux faire Alcatraz, il faut réserver sur internet pour la première visite (il y a moins de monde). Après si vous voulez tout faire à pieds, vous risquez d'en avoir plein les jambes et devoir tout faire vite. Sur Fisherman, on a tendance à trainer dans les boutiques, et entre le pier 33 (ferry pour alcatraz) et Girardhelli square, ça peut prendre un peu de temps. Je suppose donc que vous prendrez un pass pour les bus. Pareil pour China town, si vous aimez farfouillez dans les boutiques, ça ralentit la promenade.
Jour 3 : la ballade à vélo est un excellent moyen de profiter de SF (en se dirigeant vers le pont la montée est terrible). Le Golden Gate Park est très grand (ne pas se fier à la carte qui est déformé). A la limite si vous décider de ne faire aucun musée, vous pouvez le faire en vélo. Alamo square, si je me souviens bien pour les Painted Ladies, ça prend 10 minutes pour les photos. Et haigh Ashbury (qui est à côté du parc) se visite rapidement (sauf si vous farfouillez dans les boutiques).
Ton programme est réalisable si vous ne trainez pas, si vous vous levez tôt et si la météo est bonne. Attention car le repas du midi prend souvent du temps.
Pour ce qui est des buildings, il y a un hôtel sur Union square qui a un ascenseur transparent et en montant on a une jolie vue (un nom du style westin francis), il y a plusieurs ascenseur et un seul est transparent. Sinon quand tu vois des hôtels bien placés, ne pas hésiter à rentrer et aller au dernier étage pour voir s'il y a une vue. La tour Transatlantic est fermée au public (contrairement à ce qui est marqué sur mon routard). Tu peux également monter au Cheesecake Factory au dernier étage de chez Macy's sur Union Square pour avoir une belle vue de la place (de jour comme le soir, et la nourriture est vraiment bonne).
Bon voyage
Bonjour,
Une des plus belle vue aérienne de SF : The Top of the Mark au 19ème étage du Mark Hopkins Intercontinental à Nob Hill.
Et si c'est un dimanche n'hésites pas pour le brunch.
Jean-Jacques
salut....
je mettrai mon grain de sel pour Alcatraz.... fait de nuit très bien mais ds le brouillard au mois d’aout et après une journée de visite on en avait un peu plein les pattes !!!
et refait cet été avec les enfants , le premier bateau du matin , grand soleil et personne...
certes pas de coucher de soleil sur la ville mais une belle vue... retour vers 12h et tout l'après midi de libre sans contrainte, d'autant plus que durant ces 4 jours à SF on a eu un temps sublime, mais du brouillard sur la baie à partir de 18h.................
adapte ton planning (sauf Alcatraz qu'il faut réserver) avec la météo.... parce que la traversée du golden gate sous le soleil c'est top!!!
et pour finir, belle vue de la coit tower et du westin st francis sur union square, et de toute la route à velo qui longe la baie en direction du Golden gate .................. bons préparatifs !
virginie
adapte ton planning (sauf Alcatraz qu'il faut réserver) avec la météo.... parce que la traversée du golden gate sous le soleil c'est top!!!
et pour finir, belle vue de la coit tower et du westin st francis sur union square, et de toute la route à velo qui longe la baie en direction du Golden gate .................. bons préparatifs !
virginie
la floride: du soleil en hiver ...et des pelicans!https://voyageforum.com/v.f?do=post_edit;post=7663240; 10 jours en famille entre New-York et Brooklyn https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=7617123;#7617123
ma petite tribu au "far west" americainhttps://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4415639;#4415639
Pour la belle vue de san fran, je connais deux points:
The view, bar panoramique du marriott, 4th street et market. De young museum, dans le golden gate park
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The view, bar panoramique du marriott, 4th street et market. De young museum, dans le golden gate park
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Suivez les sympathiques pérégrinations routières de deux accros du voyage sur www.lavoiturejaune.com
C'est vrai que j'y étais en novembre, donc je sais pas comme c'est niveau brouillard en été.
Le problème pour Alcatraz c'est que tu es obligé de réserver tes billets bien à l'avance sur le net. Que tu choisisses la visite du matin ou du soir tu prends le risque que se soit un jour de pluie ou de brouillard comme ça pourra être une belle journée ensoleillée...pour la météo c'est un peu la loterie.
Faudra croiser les doigts 😉
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My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!