Je comptes faire un voyage linguistique en Egypt afin d'ameliorer mon arabe pour fin juin. j'ai trouve l'ecole, mais on m'a egalement parle de la syrie donc j'hesite maintenant entre les deux destinations. Je sais qu'en egypt les ecoles sont reputes et que d'un point de vue culture il y a pleins de choses a decouvrir. Maglres que le dialec dans la vie de tout les jours soit different de l'arabe classique L'egypt m'a tt de suite seduit.
J'aimerai avoir des temoignages de personnes qui sont partis en Egypt et /ou en Syrie etudier, j'ai besoin de conseils sur le mode de vie, securite.....
Le depart approche a grande vitesse, je vous serez tres reconnaissant.
Les deux pays sont extremement surs, il n'y a aucun probleme, risque terroriste mis a part dans les zones touristiques. les deux pays sont egalement des Etats policiers... sachant qu'en Syrie c'est le degre maximal.
L'arabe egyptien est relativement eloigne de l'arabe classique mais est compris dans tout le monde arabe en raison du grand succes des series TV, films et chansons egyptiennes. Du coup, meme les stars de la pop libanaise chantent en Egyptien. L'arabe syrien est plus proche de l'arabe classique.
C'est une question de gout. Le Caire et Damas sont deux excellentes destinations. juste une chose : pour la Syrie, test du VIH/Sida obligatoire une fois sur place.
Il y a plein de truc à faire en Syrie également et un patrimoine culturel plutôt bien garni, Damas fut quand même la capitale du Califat. La syrie est une destination moins grand public que l'Egypte donc ton expérience sera plus unique. Personnellement à part des syriens je ne connais personne qui soit allée en Syrie alors que l'Egypte je ne connais pas grand monde qui n'y soit pas allé.
Je pense qu'en fait ta décision doit reposer sr des critères linguistique, l'Institut de Damas pour apprendre l'Arabe est très réputé (plus que le DEAC du Caire) et a plus vocation à préparer à l'agrégation d'arabe, le DEAC du Caire lui se veut plus orienté media communication.
Voila bonne chance et bon voyage
Merci Catw de ta reponse.
Es tu en Egypt, si oui as tu deja pris des cours la bas, le logement est il difficile a trouver? aurais tu des agences a me conseiller
je ne conseille pas du tout l'Egypte pour aller étudier. Je le dis par expérience. On recoit beaucoup d'étudiants qui ont été avant en Egypte - Caire, et apres avoir "gouter" a Damas, ils trouvent que c'est beaucoup mieux. Damas est une ville plus petite (4-5 millions d'hab), plus humaine, bcp plus propre que le Caire, bcp moins polluée (meme s'il y a pas mal de pollution de voitures), et bcp moins d'embouteillages.
Ce n'est pas moi qui le dit, ce sont des gens qui y ont été. D'autre part, les egyptiens, ils parlent une autre langue, leur dialectal, qui est assez différent de l'arabe classique standard (on finit par apprendre 2 langues ou avoir un mauvais arabe). A Damas, au contraire, le dialectal est assez proche du Fus-ha, donc ca pose moins de problemes. Mais il faut rester centré sur l'arabe classique littéraire.
A Damas, les gens sont plus posés, plus éduqués, plus soignés. Mais se méfier des taxistes et agents immobiliers! la sécurité est maximale, c'est qq chose d'épatant. On vit en paix ici, on ne craint pas sortir le soir, ou se faire voler ou attaquer (meme pour les femmes, c'est tres sur). de ce point de vue la, c'est bien different de l'Europe!
si tu veux étudier a Damas, ou trouver un logement (famille ou avec autres étudiants), tu peux contacter "Arabesk Studies" a Damas (voir google). Ils ont des étudiants de la France, Suisse, Belgique (mais aussi Espagne, Italie, UK, USA, Rep Tcheque). Ils peuvent te donner plus d'infos, des références et les emails d'anciens étudiants afin d'en savoir plus sur Damas et la Syrie.
"Personnellement à part des syriens je ne connais personne qui soit allée en Syrie"
Tu ne dois pas connaitre grand monde... C'est quand meme l'une des grandes destinations de voyage dans le monde arabe pour les routards, vu l'extreme beaute du pays !
"tu ne dois pas connaître grand monde"
Qu'est ce que tu insinues?
Je trouve ça un peu limite de préjuger de l'étendu de mes relations sous prétexte que les seules personnes que je connaissent qui soient allées en Syrie soient syriennes. Chose à laquelle je ne peux absolument rien.
Je n'ai pas manqué de mentionner dans mon poste que le pays offrait un très grand intérêt mais c'est juste beaucoup moins touristique que l'Egypte (6 millions de touristes en Syrie en 2008 et plus de 11, 8 millions pour l'Egypte). Sachant que le tourisme en Syrie est assez récent. Voila donc si tu pouvais éviter de porter des jugements de valeur sur les gens ça serait cool.
Je n'insinue rien du tout ! C'est juste que ton post m'a fait sourire, car la Syrie n'est pas vraiment une terre vierge de touristes... disons qu'il y a moins de Francais car on n'y parle pas leur langue, mais le touriste anglo-saxon n'y est pas des plus rares. La Syrie est même l'une des destinations phares du moyen-orient, le pays étant magnifique, et là je pense que nous sommes d'accord.
Pour l'Egypte, c'est plus compliqué... 90% des tyouristes voyagent avec un tour opérator et sont conduits en troupeau d'une zone "Disneyland" à une autre. Il y a des dizaines de sites magnifiques en Egyte ou tu ne rencontres pas un seul touriste, que des voyagesrs individuels et des expatriés. Il suffit par exemple de marcher 5 minutes depuis le Khan Al Kahlili, très touristique, pour se retrouver seul dans les ruelles du quartier extraordinaire du caire islamique. Disons qu'il faut savoir où aller.
Assalamoualeykoum
Je suis un camerounais, nouveau converti, motivé comme vous à aller en Syrie pour apprendre la langue arabe, afin d’avancer dans ma religion. ce que j’aimerai savoir en plus c’est ; est ce que ces instituts qui existent, délivrent des diplômes, si oui reconnus, de tel sorte de retour au pays je peux donner cours dans un lycée ou collège ?
J’attends vos reponses
Tabarak ALLAHOU fii koum
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