Eviter Lyon avec Via Rhôna
by Philman52
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Partant de Langres en suivant les canaux puis les départementales jusque Groslée
Comment récupérer la Via rhôna en évitant Lyon ?
Et à quelle période de l'année faut-il mieux partir ? Je crains les camping fermés en partant mi-mai ou mi-septembre ?
merci de vos conseils
Philippe
hello ami sacochard
éviter lyon ? claudio a une thèse a ce sujet on devrait y arriver mais Lyon se traverse assez bien .. si on sait (comme dab)
Prenons comme Point de départ Mâcon et point d'arrivée Carpentras Essayer de suivre les routes en jaune comme itinéraire de base structurant avec des possibilités pour les moins pressés et plus escarpés forcément les routes attenantes en blanc
http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lyon-est/ http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/dombes/index.php claudio didit en 2015 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2015-Geneve-Lyon/
et en video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUwlIkpvvtZsfqfjz15S_1ag&v=ipIX9K62NSs have a good tripe (de Caen)
éviter lyon ? claudio a une thèse a ce sujet on devrait y arriver mais Lyon se traverse assez bien .. si on sait (comme dab)
Prenons comme Point de départ Mâcon et point d'arrivée Carpentras Essayer de suivre les routes en jaune comme itinéraire de base structurant avec des possibilités pour les moins pressés et plus escarpés forcément les routes attenantes en blanc
http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lyon-est/ http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/dombes/index.php claudio didit en 2015 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2015-Geneve-Lyon/
et en video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUwlIkpvvtZsfqfjz15S_1ag&v=ipIX9K62NSs have a good tripe (de Caen)
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
merci mon claudio pour ces informations
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
désolé mais la repons ey est
le scheme le monter
eviter via rhona par la plaine de l ain et la recuperer a givors ou vienne


Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Bonjour,
je te propose d'éviter le centre de lyon et aussi la sortie (" couloir de la chimie") Pour ce faire il te faudra payer autour de 3 E pour prendre le TER qui te prendra à la gare de Lyon St PAUL (accès facile sans escalier) et te déposera à BRIGNAIS (commune du Sud-Ouest) lyonnais.
De là, il te faudra rejoindre GIVORS par une route aménagée d'une bande cyclable ( une dizaine de KMs); petite ville un peu délicate à traversée pour un cycliste .Aller à LOIRE SUR RHONE toujours par la route et au premier feu prendre à gauche pour rejoindre la voie "verte" qui te mênera à VIENNE et à la via rhona.
PS: pour aller à saint paul , à la sortie de la fessine, tu longes le rhone jusqu'au tunnel sous la croix rousse que tu empreintes; puis à la sortie, tu as une piste cyclable le long de la Saône jusqu'à St paul
Bon courage
Bon courage
merci beaucoup
ya le claudio qui a passé 2000 heures pour écrire un topo guide
faites lui plaisir ya tout la dessus http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/le-rhone-a-velo/topo/
sinon on peut se procurer une bonne V carte Ign ou Michelin (5 euros) on étudie et on y arrive

ya le claudio qui a passé 2000 heures pour écrire un topo guide
faites lui plaisir ya tout la dessus http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/le-rhone-a-velo/topo/
sinon on peut se procurer une bonne V carte Ign ou Michelin (5 euros) on étudie et on y arrive

Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Giboulées et frimas incitent claudio a voyager autour de sa chambre et à repousser sa 1ere #bambée 2016 vers le Soleil
n'ayant pas envie d'y croiser la camarde ;
Alors il dessine des cartes
la #Camargue par #ViaRhôna 3 variantes
extrait de son Topo guide Léman mer
cbandiera.free.fr/...e-rhone-a-velo/topo/




Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Globalement la via rhôna c'est du grand n'importe quoi : prévoir la boussole !!.
claudio qui la connait bien pour y a voir peripaté 45 fois dont 12 fois in extenso
ya des progrès ya des gros progrès cependant
à part le sud de Lyon ou ya rien sur 20 km (suivre la d 315 par vernaison)
c'est pourquoi claudio propose son topo guide
pour aider et ca aide ! sinon avec une carte M .. ca le fait , on tombe forcement sur Viarhôna qui longe le grand fleuve http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/le-rhone-a-velo/topo/
pour aider et ca aide ! sinon avec une carte M .. ca le fait , on tombe forcement sur Viarhôna qui longe le grand fleuve http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/le-rhone-a-velo/topo/
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
de lyon a givors
on y arrive sisi ! faut connaitre un peu mais on y arrive

on y arrive sisi ! faut connaitre un peu mais on y arrive

Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Bonjour,
je n'ai pour ma part pas réussi à éviter Lyon.
En arrivant du Nord on prend la viarhôna à Lyon, justement.
Comme l'agglomération est gigantesque impossible de trouver un coin de rive où poser sa tente.
Dans le sens nord-sud je suis arrivé par la rive gauche, j'ai traversé par l'ile Barbe, et sur la rive droite il y a une voie férrée, perchée en haut d'une bosse. En grimpant on trouve de l'autre côté de cette voie férrée, en bordure, un accès à des jardins ouvriers où en semaine on peut bivouaquer dans les allées. Les cheminots sont sympas, il n'y a pas de problème.
Pour les camping vous ne devriez pas avoir de soucis. J'ai pris le halage du rhône par la rive droite : sur les chemins de halage, de manière générale, n'hésitez pas à planter votre tente sur la berge lorsque vous trouvez un emplacement propice avec accès au fleuve (pour la toilette) . La photo jointe est prise depuis la berge du rhône.
Prenez la saône à dijon et laissez vous glisser le long de la rive jusqu'à Lyon. La saône fait une boucle, ça rallonge mais vous êtes en terrain plat et champêtre. Je n'ai pas souvenir que le halage soit particulièrement compliqué. En revanche sur la viarhôna ouvrez grand les yeux : le fléchage est...disons...original... .
Arrivé à beaucaire prenez le canal du rhône pour traverser la petite camargue (ici placez-vous rive gauche si vous êtes en VTT, la rive droite est bitumée mais fréquentée par des camions) : c'est magnifique : chevaux sauvages au milieu du halage, renards et surtout volatiles de toutes les espèces. idem : plantez votre tente sur la rive en fin de journée. (un conseil : prenez la précaution de faire pipi un peu partout autour de votre campement...) l'idéal pour la toilette le long des canaux où l'accès à l'eau est souvent difficile, si vous avez la place dans vos sacoches est d'avoir une poche à eau : vous mettez un caillou dedans, vous y attachez une ficèle et vous la lancez dans le canal. Bonne route !
Pour les camping vous ne devriez pas avoir de soucis. J'ai pris le halage du rhône par la rive droite : sur les chemins de halage, de manière générale, n'hésitez pas à planter votre tente sur la berge lorsque vous trouvez un emplacement propice avec accès au fleuve (pour la toilette) . La photo jointe est prise depuis la berge du rhône.
Prenez la saône à dijon et laissez vous glisser le long de la rive jusqu'à Lyon. La saône fait une boucle, ça rallonge mais vous êtes en terrain plat et champêtre. Je n'ai pas souvenir que le halage soit particulièrement compliqué. En revanche sur la viarhôna ouvrez grand les yeux : le fléchage est...disons...original... .
Arrivé à beaucaire prenez le canal du rhône pour traverser la petite camargue (ici placez-vous rive gauche si vous êtes en VTT, la rive droite est bitumée mais fréquentée par des camions) : c'est magnifique : chevaux sauvages au milieu du halage, renards et surtout volatiles de toutes les espèces. idem : plantez votre tente sur la rive en fin de journée. (un conseil : prenez la précaution de faire pipi un peu partout autour de votre campement...) l'idéal pour la toilette le long des canaux où l'accès à l'eau est souvent difficile, si vous avez la place dans vos sacoches est d'avoir une poche à eau : vous mettez un caillou dedans, vous y attachez une ficèle et vous la lancez dans le canal. Bonne route !
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Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
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N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

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The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Tout d'abord... bonne année ! De belles routes à vous en 2017 !
Je voyage depuis quelques années avec un VTT de très bonne qualité mais équipé de freins à disques hydrauliques. Je vis (pédale) avec l'inquiétude d'avoir une panne (fuite, bulle d'air, chaleur qui fait que le liquide...). Mon vélociste me dit qu'il est impossible de les changer pour des V brakes.
Qu'en pensez-vous ? Est-ce que je prends un gros risque à continuer (seule) avec ces freins ? D'avance je vous remercie pour vos bonnes idées.
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio

Hi there,
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
Calling all travelers.
We’ll be landing at Lyon Airport and want to bike to La Verpillière train station (with panniers and camping gear, etc.) to catch a TER to Voreppe.
What’s the safest route for this bike trip?
Thanks in advance
hi,
I'm planning a recumbent bike trip from the Pyrenees to Greece. On the EuroVelo 8 route, it doesn't specify the path through the Alps.
Are there any experienced cyclists here who can tell me where they go to avoid climbing too high?
Also, is there another traveler/bike forum better suited for broadening the responses?
thanks





