Ayant depuis quelque temps l'idée d'un voyage vers la Chine sans prendre l'avion je me renseigne (en partie en lisant ce forum) pour peaufiner mes préparatifs.
Il reste cependant quelques points plus obscurs et pour lesquels j'aurais besoin d'avis (notamment du point de vue visas, d'où le choix de cette rubrique).
Tout d'abord, mon parcours prévu (dans les grandes lignes) avec les dates approximatives (départ début-mi juillet)
Paris-Istanbul (quelques jours à Istanbul, visites, attente du train hebdo pour l'Iran) Istanbul-Téhéran (visite d'Ispahan, autres villes ?, attente de visas ?)
(sortie d'Iran peu après la mi-août au plus tard) Téhéran-Boukhara (train via Turkménistan, visite de Samarkand, peut-être Khiva) Samarkand-Osh (en passant par la vallée de la Fergana, mode de transport ? bus ?)
(arrivée en Chine pendant le mois de septembre) Osh-Kashgar (via l'Irkeshtam) Circuit en Chine, trains (Xi'an, Dali, Canton/HK, Shanghai, Pékin) Pékin-Moscou (Transmongolien ou Mandchourien, avec étapes) sur le mois de novembre et début décembre Moscou-Paris (avec étapes selon dates/budget)
Je pense qu'au niveau durée (pas trop rapide pour certaines étapes) et budget (je compte un mini-mini de 3000€ et je table plus raisonnablement autour de 5000€, en voyageant plutôt à l'économie, couchsurfing, ...) le circuit se tient, qu'en pensez-vous ?
Question plus épineuse (celle qui m'embête le plus) : les visas.
Par exemple, puis-je prendre un certain nombre de visas avant le départ avec des dates libres (par exemple visa chinois double entrée de 3 mois septembre-octobre-novembre) ou la validité de celui-ci va-t-il commencer dès son émission ? (et donc problème si en juillet). Pareil pour 15 jours en Iran, le transit turkmène, Ouzbékistan, Kirghizstan, Russie. Tous ces visas seraient de plus demandés sans réservation hôtelière ou lettre d'invitation.
Si le visa russe m'inquiète moins (possibilité d'attendre un moment à Pékin pour l'avoir), les autres sont plus compliqués (pas spécialement envie d'avoir à gérer les visas d'Asie Centrale sur un laps de temps assez court).
Sur la question des visas, je reprécise mes questions donc :
j'ai peu d'inquiétudes pour Iran/Turkménistan (transit)/Ouzbékistan/Kirghizstan : a priori prenables à Paris à l'avance, sans invitations ou réservations. Vous confirmez ?
problèmes pour la Chine :
besoin d'une invitation ou d'une réservation : possible de réserver une nuit à Kashgar (vu quelques adresses de guesthouses sur le forum) et de faire la suite du trajet sans contraintes ? besoin de billets de transport entrée/sortie (ou sortie seulement ?) : là, plus compliqué puisque je comptais bien acheter mes billets de Transmandchourien (ou mongolien) à Pékin et que de plus ma date de sortie est bien floue. Help ! 😇
problèmes pour la Russie :
sensiblement les mêmes que pour la Chine, sachant qu'en plus je devrai retirer le visa à Pékin (si je le fais à mon départ de Paris le visa ne sera plus valable) : en réservant à Irkoutsk ça pourrait passer ?
Je compte prendre la plupart de mes visas avant le départ (tous sauf Russie, que je ferai à Shanghai avec des papiers faits en France avant départ), le kirghiz via une agence belge, l'iranien en passant par iranvisa.com et les autres par action-visa.
Je croise les doigts pour que ça se déroule correctement, c'est pas vraiment la partie amusante de la préparation...
Pourquoi tu ne fais pas le chinois avant de partir (plus de 3 mois pour arrivé en chine) dans ce cas la on te demande rien de plus que le formulaires, les photos et ton passeport (et un peut d'argent quand même)...
Edit: Autant pour moi je vient de voir que les conditions de délivrance des visa avais changé ...
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
C'est bien ce que je comptais faire (dans mes plans, seul le visa russe est à faire en cours de route) 😉
Et les infos vues sur l'autre sujet me réjouissent pas spécialement... parce que j'ai pas du tout prévu d'avion et que faire le visa chinois à Bishkek ou Tachkent... 🤪
"Et les infos vues sur l'autre sujet me réjouissent pas spécialement... parce que j'ai pas du tout prévu d'avion et que faire le visa chinois à Bishkek ou Tachkent..."
Salut, est tu allé voir sur la partie du forum des voyageurs en voiture, vélo et moto, pas mal évoque les démarche faites ou à faire ...
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
Je cherche plutôt via la recherche par mots-clés (titre + texte du message) avec visa, Chine, chinois, Bishkek, ... et les infos datent un peu généralement. J'ai vu qu'un membre du forum qui bosse dans le tourisme au Kirghizstan proposait de l'aide pour obtenir le visa chinois mais... c'était en 2006.
Je vais faire un tour sur les parties du forum que tu m'indiques.
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I have the transfer documents, insurance in my name, and all the supporting paperwork, but not the registration document. So my question is: does the ferry company require the registration document *mandatorily* when boarding in Denmark or not?
Thanks for any insights...
Hi everyone,
I bought a new apartment in Pattaya that will be finished at the end of 2013, and I’d like to buy more later...
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Hi everyone,
I have to leave for Perth, Australia in a week, for 7 days, and I couldn’t get my international driver’s permit due to processing and delivery delays.
The information I’ve found about whether an international permit is required is contradictory. Some sources say you need one, others say you don’t.
Could anyone let me know if an international driver’s permit is necessary to rent a car in Australia (Perth), or if a French license is enough for a 7-day rental?
hi everyone,
I need to apply for a new eTA for Canada.
do I need the number from my old eTA or not?
because I can’t find my old eTA number anymore.
thanks for your replies, have a great weekend
Hi there,
I know there are similar topics here and elsewhere, but they’re a few years old, and I need an up-to-date answer to make sure I don’t throw over 1000 € out the window. Thanks for your patience.
I’m planning a trip from France to Alberta/British Columbia, and I’m unsure about which bank card to use for the security deposit with the rental company (I’m thinking of going with AVIS).
I contacted Avis Canada, and they told me a credit card is absolutely required. I asked my bank for a credit card (a *real* credit card), but they only offered me a deferred debit card.
My question: For a rental with Avis Canada, is a Gold International Mastercard deferred debit card usable for the security deposit needed to finalize the rental? Is the "CREDIT" label enough? (Some cards say "CREDIT" and others say "CARTE DE CREDIT"—seems minor, but it’s actually a big deal in how the card works.)
I’ve seen conflicting info everywhere I look... My bank says it’s *usually* okay (the deferred debit card), while Avis Canada insists it *must* be a credit card, not debit—even when I mention the deferred debit card.
I know the whole credit card concept is already confusing, and on top of that, some sites say a deferred debit card counts as a credit card, while others say it doesn’t.
Thanks to anyone who can share a recent experience!
Have a great day
Hello everyone,
Could a resident of Benin (Cotonou) kindly let me know which is the best mobile phone and internet service provider?
Thank you very much,
Best regards,
Juan
Hi,
I’m bringing Seresta, an anxiolytic (tranquilizer) from the benzodiazepine family,
to help me sleep.
I’ll have the prescription with me.
Will this be a problem at customs, and do I need to declare it?
Same question for antibiotics?
Thanks a bunch!
Hi everyone,
I’ll explain my situation.
Unfortunately, I lost my passport, and I only realized it two weeks before my departure for a humanitarian mission in Libya. I’m a nurse, and this mission really means a lot to me.
First, I applied for an emergency passport, but it was denied by the Val-d'Oise prefecture on the grounds that a planned humanitarian mission wasn’t considered an urgent reason.
So, I submitted a biometric passport application on July 20th. Since then, the tracking has been stuck, and the town hall can’t (or won’t) give me any clear information. Every time I call, I get a different story. The last update I received was that the passport had been produced since July 23rd with a status of "about to be shipped," but nothing since then.
I’ve managed to push my departure back to next Tuesday at the latest, but I’m starting to really panic.
Have any of you submitted an application around July 20th, especially in Val-d'Oise (95)? How long did you wait between the passport being produced and it being available at the town hall? Is it normal for this step to take this long?
This mission means so much to me. I had everything organized, and I’m also supposed to attend a friend’s wedding right after near the border.
Thanks so much to those who take the time to respond or share their experience. 😔
Can anyone tell me exactly if a passport "valid for the duration of the stay" is enough, or does it need to be valid for 6 months after the trip?
I checked the embassy’s website, but that info is missing.
Hi there,
I’ll be arriving in Seoul on November 18th after spending about a month in India.
Do you know if I’ll need to fill out any additional documents besides the e-arrival card?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m a bit embarrassed because I need to travel to Quebec from February 27th to March 13th. I’m a regular visitor to Canada—this will be my 10th trip since 1997, plus a year as a permanent resident (2000–2001) and a cross-country run from Vancouver to Halifax in 2011. So, I’m definitely not a terrorist!
But since our last trip in July 2015, they’ve introduced this eTA thing. Seems more like a way to make money than to actually secure Canada, if you ask me, but anyway, that’s not the point.
I applied for an eTA for myself, my wife, and our two kids. They all got approved within hours, but not me! I was asked to create a GC key and then an IRCC account, which I did. Normally, you get news within 72 hours, but since Monday, January 15th, nothing!
In the "message" section of the account, it says "explanation letter (required)" with a deadline of January 25th, but I can’t find any explanation anywhere—despite searching the Canadian government website and Google. No links, nothing!
I’ve emailed them but haven’t heard back yet. I’m thinking of calling the Canadian embassy in Paris tomorrow. Even though I’m not stressing yet, it’d be a bummer if everyone else got to go without me!
If anyone’s had this issue before or knows what this explanation letter is about, I’d love to hear more.
hi there
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So, to anyone who’s successfully gotten the authorization, could you tell me which address you used to get that "elusive" approval?...
Hi there,
I’m heading to Senegal in January for a month and was wondering if I just need my French driver’s license or if I should get an international permit?
Thanks!
JL
I’m heading to Laos next spring, but I have a question about the Thai arrival/departure form. I’ll be flying PAR-BKK, then taking the train to Laos (so exiting Thailand), and later re-entering Thailand by train to catch my return flight. Do I need to fill out two forms in this case?
Hi there,
I have a 9-seater passenger vehicle that I use for my business in Paris, transporting people.
I’m planning to go to Algeria with my family.
The vehicle registration lists my company as the owner.
Can I get a TPD (Temporary Admission Document)?
Will I need a KBis extract or a power of attorney?!?
Thanks for your help.
Worst case, I can add my personal name as a co-owner on the registration, but that would be a real shame!
Hi,
I’m writing to ask for some info—I’ve heard that you **must** have travel insurance to land in Zanzibar.
What’s the process, and which insurance should I get?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Best,
Seb
Hi, are there any travelers who’ve recently crossed the border between Karakalpakstan (Uzbekistan) and Beineu in Kazakhstan?
It was closed for a while.
Thanks for any info!
I bought a one-way flight (Ryanair) and a return flight (EasyJet) to spend a week in Morocco in April.
My passport expires 3 weeks after the return date.
Some websites say the passport must be valid for 3 months at the time of entry.
However, it will still be valid both on entry and return, but its validity will only be 1 month at the time of entry (and 3 weeks on the return date, everything prepaid).
It's an individual family trip.
The consulate can't give me an answer—they're still looking into it (really!)
Last year, we stayed for 3 months in Thailand, north of Khao Lak, and were able to benefit from the 2-month visa exemption, renewable for one month by going to Takua Pa to validate a 1-month extension (1,900 baht).
This year, it’s a disaster for us—not only were we planning a 4-month stay, adding a visa run in between (which some say is quite risky), but the law is apparently changing in the coming months with the return of the 1-month exemption (plus the usual 1-month option). So, we looked into applying for a 6-month multiple-entry visa, allowing a maximum of 60 consecutive days in Thailand. However, I can’t find anywhere the minimum time required outside Thailand between two stays—do any of you have an idea?
Thanks for the info! If you’d like tips on Khao Lak and the surrounding areas, we’ve got some experience, though things change fast!
Cheers,
Bruno.
My partner, our 8-year-old daughter, and I are going on vacation to Gex.
We’ve decided to spend one day in Switzerland and another in Italy. Will we need ID (national ID card or passport)? Do we also need ID for our daughter?
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
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I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident.
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For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France?
Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted.
Is this real or just a hoax?
Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received.
Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding?
Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival?
Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient?
Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale
I saw on the French Embassy in Peru’s website and the Peruvian Consulate in Paris’s site that the rule is to have a passport valid for 6 months *after the arrival date* (not the return date).
I arrive in Peru on August 13, 2019 (for about twelve days), and my passport is valid until February 16, 2020.
That’s 6 months and 3 days after my arrival date in Peru. In my opinion, I’m good to go.
But could I still be denied entry if they say I don’t cover the return date or that I’m too close to the 6-month mark?
