Bonjour à tous, je suis concessionaire citroën de Tianjin, la premiere concessionnaire de la marque DS en Chine. En septembre 2012, la marque DS est entré sur le marché Chinois, c'est un marché très énorme, et en même temps, pour les peulpes Chinois, c'est une marque tout neuf. Afin de mieux propager la marque DS sur le marché chinois Je suis très heureux de vous recommander une activité qui organisé par ma entreprise: Paris-Pekin en voiture, avec votre DS! Nos activité va suivre la itinéraire que l’équipe du monsieur andre citroen passé en l’annee 1933, du Paris au pékin via le Moyen-Orient.
Nos activité sont bien planifiées, depuis la preparation d’avant le partir jusqu'à des formalités véhicules, Nos entreprise va tenir responsable toutes les choses. Après l’arrive à bon port au Pékin, nous proposons deux choix pour les proprietaire. Pour la premiere solution, nous pouvons reprendre les véhicules avec un prix agréable, et la deuxieme solution, nous pouvons renvoyer les vhéicule à la France par transport maritime et nous nous chargons tous les frais de transports. Nous signerons le contrat officiel avec tous les proprietaire qui va participer cette activité, et nous achèterons le voyage d’assurance pour chaque membre.
Si vous êtes intéressé à nos activités, et si vous êtes le propriétaire de DS3, DS4, DS5, N'hésitez pas à me contacter!!! E-mail: zzprincess2010@hotmail.com
Voiture mythique qui participa avec succès aux rallyes Paris-Dakar et de Monte Carlo
La nouvelle DS je sais même pas à quoi elle ressemble 🤪
Sinon je serai à Tianjin pour 3 jours à partir du 21 Mars 😉 si vous pouviez me donner l'adresse de votre magasin de vente Citroen - à condition qu'il soit au centre de Tianjin - je pourrais venir vous dire bonjour 😏
Au plaisir de vous lire
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
comment peut-on qualifier une ouature de mythique ? 🤪
Quel manque de culture, c'est lamentable comme réflexion 😕
"Nous ne sommes plus une communauté d'être humains qui se parlent mais un conglomérat de grappes de consommateurs en niches, séparés les uns des autres par des obsessions diverses et innombrables. Nous sommes de l'ère de la désintégration." Marc Moulin (1942-2008) in Humoeurs
Bien, le projet semble alléchant.....!!!! MAIS......!
J'ai de sérieux doutes quant à votre organisation....! La marié est trop belle pour être réelle.
Donnez nous des précisions sur le forum.
Avez-vous une toute petite idée de la logistique d'un tel projet?
Où est l'arnaque?
« Lorsque l'on se cogne la tête contre un pot et que cela sonne creux, ça n'est pas forcément le pot qui est vide. » Confucius .
Manifique DS classique, votre DS est une légende! En fait je cherche des propriétaire français de la nouvelle DS3, DS4, ou DS5, mais, si vous pouvez participer nos activité, nous serons très honorés, îl s'agit du esprit véritable de DS. Nous allons partir en Juin, je vais vous envoyer des détail sur ce projet en quelque jours plus tard. (je vais faire la traduction pour les details du projet)
Et soyez bienvenu chez DS-Store à Tianjin! et si vous aurez l'intention d'aller au magasin en Mars, il peut-être en cours de décoration, mais pas grave, nous disposons d'un showroom pour la vente. La magasin ne situe pas au centre de Tianjin mais pas très loin, il n'y a pas de transport public peut accès, vous pouvez prendre un TAXI, ça séra le plus rapide et pas cher, l'adresse de magasin est Tianjin airport free trade zone-HUANHU west road 08, le numéro téléphone: 0086-22 58099299 si vous pouvez parler Chinois 😎 et vous pouvez aussi me contacter si vous rencontrerez quel problème 😄 Cordialement !
Nous avons l'intention de partir en Juin, et l'équipe sera comprendre 3 ou 6 véhicule maximum, je vais poser les details du projet sur le forum quelque jours plus tard, nous avons signer le contrat officiel avec vous, donc Il s'agit d'une des activités bien planifiées et assuré. 😄
Tout d'abord je pose le trajet d’expédition, et après quelque jours je vais poser l'article et clause de contrat. Je vous remerci de votre attention!
01/06 537km 5h loger en Mulhouse
Paris--Mulhouse Visiter l’usine de DS3 en Poissy, le processus de production, Museum citroën, (93601 boulevard André Citroën) Cité de l'Automobile-National Automobi et le Museum Schlumpf collection.
02/06 171km 2h10 loger en Luzern
Mulhouse--Bâle--Zurich--Luzern Prenez des photos devant le monument du tripoint entre l’Allemagne , la France et la Suisse. Visiter la centre ville du Zurich, la grand cathédrale de Zurich. musée national de la suisse, partira à Luzern après-midi, visiter le pont de Spreuer et lac du Luzern.
03/06 330km 4h loger en Como
Luzern--Interlaken--Como Visiter les paysages rural de la Suisse, lac du Thunersee et lac du Brienzersee, et la Jungfrau, arriver à Como dans la nuit.
04/06 310km 3h10 loger en Venezia
Como--Milano--Verona--Venezia Visiter la centre ville du Milan, Piazza Duomo et la galerie du Vittorio Emanuuele, visiter l’amphithéâtre romain en Verona, et la maison de Juliette, arriver à Venezia dans la nuit.
05/06 290km 3h10 loger en Ljubljana
Venezia--Postojna--Ljubljana visiter la Venezia, la place de st marc, après midi, partir à visiter la Grotte de Postojna, la plus grand grotte d’europe, arriver à Ljubljana dans la nuit.
06/06 410km 5h20 loger en Plitvice
Ljubljana--Trieste--Piran--Rovinj--Plitvice Visiter les paysages de la côte Adriatique, faire de la photo pour les village toit rouge et les villages côtiers, arriver à Plitvice dans la nuit.
07/06 150km 2h loger en Zadar
Plitvice--Zadar Visiter le parc national des lacs de Plitvice, et la centre ville de Zadar, faire des photos pour le paysage du coucher de soleil sur mer.
08/06 346km 4h10 loger en Dubrovnik
Zadar--Split--Dubrovnik visiter la centre ville de Zadar, l’architecte de style Méditerranéen , l’église sanit-siméon, l’orgue maritime sur le mer, l’ancienne résidence de Tito, passer Split, visiter la palace Diocletian, a travers les territoires bosniaques.
09/06 530km 8h15 loger en Kastoria
Dubrovnik--Ulcinj--Tirana--Kastoria visiter la chute de l’empire austro-hongrois, arriver à Kastoria dans la nuit.
10/06 480km 5h30 loger en Athènes
Kastoria--Kalampaka--Athènes Visiter les monastère des météores à Kalampaka, arriver à Athènes dans la nuit.
11/06 7h de ferry loger dans le ferry
Athènes--Santorini visiter la centre ville d’athènes, l’acropole d’athènes, prenez le ferry de nuit au Santorini.
12/06 5h de ferry loger dans le ferry
Santorini--Kos visiter l’église toit blue, la chapelle orthodoxe à Oia, le plus belle île du monde, prenez le ferry de nuit au île de Kos.
13/06 340km 2h30 loger en Izmir
Kos--Bodrum--Izmir Jour de repos sur île du Kos, loger dans la troisième plus grande ville en Turquie.
14/06 268km 3h50 loger en Denizli
Izmir--Denizli Visiter la centre ville de Izimir, le marché(Bazar) du Kizlaragasi hani, la place de konak et la temple d’artémis à éphèse, visiter le site naturel de Pamukkale, arriver à Denizli dans la nuit.
15/06 465km 6h30 loger en Ankara
Denizli--Ankara arriver à Ankara dans l’après-midi, visiter la centre ville de Ankara, et l’ancien château de Ankara.
16/06 283km 4h45 loger en Kayseri
Ankara--Katpatuka--Kayseri Visiter le parc géologique de Katpatuka, le plus célèbre de la destination du voyage montgolfière, la cité du cachot derinkuyu et le musée de Goreme.
17/06 312km 4h45 loger en Malatya
Kayseri--Malatya Visiter la montage de Nemrut, la unique forme géologique, visiter les ruines d’une ville antique-Kahta, prenez des photo dans le montagne de Nemrut.
18/06 586km 9h15 loger en Van
Malatya--Van Visiter la ville plus grande sur la route de la soie ancienne, lac de Van, préparez les formalités pour transiter au Iran demain.
19/06 331km 4h35 loger en Tabriz
Van--Tabriz Tabriz est la capitale de nombreuses dynastie dans l’histoire, visiter le bazar de Tabriz, et la mosquée bleue.
20/06 630km 5h55 loger en Téhéran
Tabriz--Téhéran La capitale d’iran, visiter le palais du Golestan, musée national d’iran, monter en parc de peak Tochal dans la nuit.
21/06 0km loger en Téhéran
Jour de repose, visiter la centre ville de téhéran, le monument Azadi, musée national, et le parc Mellat.
22/06 446km 4h40 loger en Esfahan
Téhéran--Esfahan Visiter la cour de l’hôtel Abbassi, un ancien caravansérail, et la place Hashtbehesht.
23/06 0km loger en Esfahan
Jour de repose, visiter la mosquée du vendredi, et le palais de chehel sotoun, Manarjomba(temple de vulcain ) prenez des photo sur le pont de esfahan avec 33 arches dans la crépuscule.
24/06 478km 5h10 loger en Chiraz
Esfahan--Chiraz Visiter tombe de Hade et Saadi, mosquée Atigh Jame.
25/06 566km 6h30 loger en Kerman
Chiraz--Kerman Visiter la citadelle de Bam, et grand bazar, le plus ancienne bazar persan, préparez les formalités pour transiter au Pakistan demain.
26/06 640km 7h45 loger en Taftan
Kerman--Zahedan--Taftan Arriver à Tafhan avant la nuit, joindre avec l’escorte de la police.
27/06 636km 6h50 loger en Quetta
Taftan--Quetta Arriver à Quetta avant la nuit, besoin de passer environ sept points de contrôle, il faut environs une heure et demi.
28/06 625km 7h50 loger en Multan
Quetta--Multan Mauvais état de la route, arriver à Multan avant la nuit.
29/06 346km 4h50 loger en Lahore
Multan--Lahore Visiter le mausolée de Rukn-e-Alam, et cathédrale de multan.
30/06 376km 3h45 loger en Islamabad
Lahore--Islamabad Visiter la mosquée Faisal, et le parlement.
01/07 0km
Jour de repose, rester en Islamabad, faire l’entretien des véhicules, visiter le parc de Margalla.
02/07 487km 8h25 loger en Gilgit
Islamabad--Naran--Gilgit Mauvais état de la route, arriver à Gilgit avant la nuit.
03/07 320km 6h10 loger en Tashkurgan
Gilgit--Gulmit--Khunjerab--Tashkurgan Travers un lac par ferry, préparez lès formalité pour passer ladouane de Chine.
04/07 292km 6h30 loger en Kashgar
Tashkurgan--Kashgar Expectative le montagne K2(Chogori), visiter la ruine de la pierre sur la route de la soie.
05/07 0km loger en Kashgar
Jour de repose, visiter le vieux Kashgar, préparez les materiels et les papiers pour entrer au Tibet.
06/07 258km 5h50 loger en Karglilik(Ye cheng)
Kashgar--Karglilik Visiter la tombe de impératrice, le paysage de peuplier, Karglilik est le point de départ de la route Xinjiang-Tibet.
07/07 492km 11h10 loger en Dahongliutan
Karglilik(Yecheng)--Dahongliutan Traverser le zone non-habité.
08/07 346km 7h43 loger en Duoma
Dahongliutan--Duoma Traverser des monts Kunlun. Très mauvais état de la route.
09/07 231km 5h10 loger en Shiquanhe
Duoma--Shiquanhe Passer au travers lac Lungmu Co et lac Bangong Co.
10/07 504km 11h25 loger en Payang
Shiquanhe--Payang Deux lacs sacrés, et un montagne sacré.
11/07 450km 9h50 loger en Saga
Payang--Saga Passer à travers la prairie de Sangsang.
12/07 375km 8h20 loger en Everest Base Camp
Saga--Everest Le paysage de coucher du soleil en Everest.
13/07 237km 5h30 loger en Shigates(Rikaze)
Everest--Shigates(Rikaze) Le paysage de lever du soleil en Everest, visiter la centre ville de Shigatse, la pagode et la temple de Zhashibulun.
14/07 268km 5h35 loger en Lhassa
Shigates--Lhassa Visiter le palais de Potala, et le marché Barkhor.
15/07 0km loger en Lhassa
Lhassa Faire l’entretien pour les voiture, visiter la centre ville de Lhassa et la place du peuple.
16/07 330km 7h10 loger en Nagqu
Lhassa--Nagqu Visiter la temple bouddhisme Tibétain, et le lac de Nam Co.
17/07 415km 9h15 loger en village de Tuotuo
Nagqu--village de Tuotuo Escalader les monts Tanggula, entrer au pâturage de haut plateau, avoir la possibilité de voir l’antilope du tibet.
18/07 414km 9h10 loger en Golmud
Village de Tuotuo--Golmud Le paysage de désert, et la source du fleuve Yangtsé.
19/07 556km 11h15 loger en village de Heimahe
Golmud--village de Heimahe Le paysage du lac de Qinghai.
20/07 221km 3h50 loger en Xining
Village de Heimahe--Xining Conduit autour du lac de Qinghai, visiter la temple de Tahr, et le montagne la lune et le soleil.
21/07 528km 6h40 loger en Tianshui
Xining--Lanzhou--Tianshui Visiter le musée archéologique provincial du Gansu, et la tour blanc.
22/07 389km 4h10 loger en Xi’an
Tianshui--Xi’an Visiter le musée archéologique provincial du Shanxi, la mausolée de l’empereur Qin, et la muraille de la ville antique.
23/07 480km 5h30 loger en Zhengzhou
Xi’an--Luoyang--Zhengzhou Visiter la grotte de Longmen, passer le fleuve Jaune.
24/07 423km 4h55 loger en Shijiazhuang
Zhengzhou--Handan--Shijiazhuang Visiter la temple la ville natale de l’empereur Jaune, le berceau de la civilisation chinoise.
Les trajets que vous proposez et les durées sont (en partie) du n'importe quoi !
Mappy ou Google ne sont pas toujours de bons amis !
connaissant pas trop mal la Turquie par les routes, je ne comprends pas pourquoi arriver à Izmir, remonter à Ankara puis Kayseri... et préparer le passage de la frontière à Van alors qu'il y a encore 150 km jusqu'à Dogubeyazit....
Van -> Tabriz en 4h35, c'est trop magique !
pour le reste et le passage de la KHW au pakistan, rendez-vous cet été...
allez, bon courage à tous ceux qui veulent s'engager sur ces routes et demandez à l'organisateur qu'il paye la caution pour le CPD (ce n'est qu'un prêt) !
Les trajets que vous proposez et les durées sont (en partie) du n'importe quoi !
Mappy ou Google ne sont pas toujours de bons amis !
connaissant pas trop mal la Turquie par les routes, je ne comprends pas pourquoi arriver à Izmir, remonter à Ankara puis Kayseri... et préparer le passage de la frontière à Van alors qu'il y a encore 150 km jusqu'à Dogubeyazit....
Van -> Tabriz en 4h35, c'est trop magique !
pour le reste et le passage de la KHW au pakistan, rendez-vous cet été...
allez, bon courage à tous ceux qui veulent s'engager sur ces routes et demandez à l'organisateur qu'il paye la caution pour le CPD (ce n'est qu'un prêt) !
amicalement
Dominique
A ma connaissance, l'entrée au Tibet par la route Kashgar - Ali (Shiquanhe) est fermée aux étrangers.
Les trajets que vous proposez et les durées sont (en partie) du n'importe quoi !
Mappy ou Google ne sont pas toujours de bons amis !
connaissant pas trop mal la Turquie par les routes, je ne comprends pas pourquoi arriver à Izmir, remonter à Ankara puis Kayseri... et préparer le passage de la frontière à Van alors qu'il y a encore 150 km jusqu'à Dogubeyazit....
Van -> Tabriz en 4h35, c'est trop magique !
pour le reste et le passage de la KHW au pakistan, rendez-vous cet été...
allez, bon courage à tous ceux qui veulent s'engager sur ces routes et demandez à l'organisateur qu'il paye la caution pour le CPD (ce n'est qu'un prêt) !
Je persiste à dire comme Dniorte que c'est du n'importe quoi et une aventure bien risquée pour les candidats inconscients qui auront la très mauvaise idée de s'aventurer dans cette galère sans nom....!
Les problèmes d'intendance sont énormes, les itinéraires proposés sont de l'improvisation lorsque je lis les temps de trajet sur certains secteurs je reste rêveur, vous ajoutez à cela les passages de frontières certaines fermées et ainsi vous aller réaliser la quadrature du cercle....... pour conclure: Dangereuse aventure pensée par une personne irresponsable qui devrait abandonner ce projet fou. Ou à le moins partir seule.
« Lorsque l'on se cogne la tête contre un pot et que cela sonne creux, ça n'est pas forcément le pot qui est vide. » Confucius .
J'ai été beaucoup amusé par la lecture de ce post, surtout pour l'itinéraire de prévu.🙂
Bon, une chose est sûre, continuons à bien nous marrer sur ce post, par contre à ceux qui auraient la naïveté de croire une once de vérité la dedans, c'est tant pis pour eux...EVIDEMMENT que c'est du bidon...En tout cas, on avait l'habitude de voir les chinois lancer leurs cyber-arnaques par le biais des annonces ebay ou de jeux vidéo en ligne, mais je n'avais pas encore vu ça sur les forums de voyage...
Heu sinon zorro princesse? que tu tentes de prendre les français pour des cons, vas y tu seras pas le dernier mais là quand même tu exagères c'est poussé lol...
Zzprincess,
Je crois qu'il est temps de siffler la fin de la récréation, de revenir à la réalité et mettre un terme à cette arnaque. Car je ne peux la qualifier autrement.
Pouvez-vous seulement me répondre à cette question très simple: comment conduire sur le territoire chinois sauf à avoir le permis de conduire chinois ou un chauffeur chinois?
Dans ce cas, vous fournissez le chauffeur?
Vous voyez bien que votre projet ne tient pas debout, arrêtez de rêver, soyez sérieux et comportez-vous en adulte responsable.
J'ose espérer que personne ne "s'embarquera" dans une galère pareille.
« Lorsque l'on se cogne la tête contre un pot et que cela sonne creux, ça n'est pas forcément le pot qui est vide. » Confucius .
Pouvez-vous seulement me répondre à cette question très simple: comment conduire sur le territoire chinois sauf à avoir le permis de conduire chinois ou un chauffeur chinois?
Ca, c'est possible sans permis de conduire chinois ni chauffeur chinois, mais il faut avoir un "guide"; on peut se retrouvé scotché avec un Chinois de base qui est malade en voiture (il y avait un post édifiant sur le sujet il y a quelques années). Ca coûte une petite fortune, même en partageant les frais à plusieurs véhicules, pour une prestation fondamentalement inutile. J'ai vu à Lhassa deux camping cars immatriculés en Allemagne et en Autriche : on peut aller au Tibet depuis l'Europe de l'Ouest, mais probablement pas avec Zzprincess, au sujet duquel j'hésite entre incompétence totale et malhonnêteté simpliste.
😎
Oui exact, c'est vrai, rien que là déjà ça coince, le permis français n'est pas valable en Chine et le permis international je le rappel n'est pas un permis mais juste une traduction du permis de conduire...En Chine, il faut un permis de conduire...chinois...
Imposture vite décelée grâce à la perspicacité des forumeurs.En y réfléchissant et avec un peu d'observation, on constate une manière de s'exprimer originale, une orthographe incertaine et effectivement, un parcours assez fantaisiste.
Surpris d'apprendre qu'il est impossible de conduire en Chine sans le permis.
Décidément, ce pays (comme d'autres assez protectionnistes) verrouille bien les limites assez restreintes de ce qui est permis chez lui.....
Je souhaiterai amener ma petite CLIO 1994 Essence jusqu'en CHINE durant un voyage de 6 mois environ. Le souci... c'est que je ne connais absolument pas…
Voyager avec des enfants › Chine / Inde · 56 replies
Nous prévoyons de faire un voyage de 6 mois début 2015 en famille (avec nos 3 enfants agés de 5,12 et 19ans) A/R France Chine en passant par l'Inde au retour…
Voilà ma question est la suivante est'il possible de partir en Chine en passant par la Russie pour éviter toutes les zones a risque du moment. J'aimerai…
Pour un trajet pékin-france, en passant par la mongolie et l'asie centrale, départ en mars: il vaut mieux faire la traversée dans quel sens? températures…
Voila, alors tout nouveau sur le forum j aurais voulus avoir divers avis sur ce periple. En effet pour le moment c est a l etat de projet mais les grandes…
Bonjour à tous
Pour simplifier la logistique, j'envisage de louer une voiture pour passer 5/6 jours dans les alpes japonaises avant d'aller à Kyoto en solo.
La conduite est-elle compliquée voire risquée dans cette région.?
Merci pour vos retours
Tara
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train.
On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night.
On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku:
- 2 nights in the Iya Valley
- Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights.
- Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka.
We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip:
- Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita
- Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro
- Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD
- Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening
We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy...
I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving...
Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu.
For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)?
Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot?
For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
I saw there are several "authentic" villages about 90/100 km from Beijing.
Including: Lingshui, Liuliqu, Sangyu, Miaoying, and Cuandixia.
Has anyone visited any of them? I was thinking of choosing Cuandixia—what do you think?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone!
It seems there’s a flea market in Tianjin that’s way more interesting than the one in Beijing. I’ve been searching online but can’t find the right one… The one I’m looking for is called gu wan shi chang (my PC won’t display the Chinese characters…). Does anyone have the address and has anyone been there before? The one in Beijing has lost a lot of its charm over the past 10 years, so I wanted to find another. Thanks!
Hi,
My departure is coming up soon—two months backpacking in Taiwan, so much to discover! I’d love to hear about your travel experiences.
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation.
I do stone sculpture.
I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history.
Marie
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan.
From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan.
Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan?
(I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us?
(According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara
- Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights
- Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights
- Himeji: 1 night
- Kyoto: 4 nights
- Kanazawa: 2 nights
- Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights
- Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights
- Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks)
Departure from Tokyo
Here are some tips from our 6-week trip (summer 2026) to China, Vietnam, and Cambodia. We traveled as a family of four with two kids aged 15 and 12.
I hope these notes help other travelers!
CHINA
General
You’ll need to download and set up a few apps:
- Alipay and WeChat for payments (I didn’t withdraw a single bill the entire trip)
- Didi for taxis
- Amap = Chinese Maps (works great, especially for subways)
- A translation app (we used Papago, but it sometimes gave weird results)
- Google Lens for translating menus or signs—super handy.
- HelloRide for bikes
- Gemini and ChatGPT for everything: understanding daily life, enhancing visits, checking the weather, finding things.
- HomeExchange if you want to lower travel costs (few listings in Asia except in big cities, often expats)
- Trip.com is very useful, even essential, for trains, domestic flights, and hotels. Like Booking.com, the more you book with them, the more perks you get. So I’d even suggest checking flight tickets on this site, even if it’s a bit pricier. However, buying train tickets is complicated because (1) they only open 15 days in advance, and (2) they sell out fast. Trip.com just promises to buy them as soon as they’re available but doesn’t always succeed. It’s stressful and might force you to change your plans, especially if you’re aiming for a sleeper car and there are no seats left. Watch out for station names—many cities have multiple stations, including a high-speed rail one outside the city.
For internet, we got the Asia plan from Holafly. It worked but seemed much slower than Chinese internet. I regretted not buying a Chinese SIM card because without internet in China, everything is VERY complicated (money, transport, etc.).
For the firewall, we used ExpressVPN, but it wasn’t always reliable. A bit disappointing. Ask ChatGPT for tips with screenshots to improve the settings.
Since we only had one SIM card with internet, we couldn’t rent shared bikes. If I were to do it again, I’d get a SIM for each person, even the kids, because distances in cities are huge. We walked *a lot*. Same goes for buses—it’s tricky with just one internet connection. Better to have a phone per person with internet.
Book your visits as far in advance as possible—they often sell out.
Watch out for power banks: if they don’t explicitly say "3C," they’ll confiscate it. Even if there’s a little airplane logo.
Shanghai
In the evening, the streets leading to the Bund from the metro were so crowded that police were out in force blocking roads. Arrive early. We went around the north side.
Suzhou
Be careful—there are two stations (common in China), and the high-speed rail one is 45–50 minutes from the old town.
The Humble Administrator’s Garden was *packed*—we don’t recommend it. It turned into a marathon day from Shanghai (almost 4 hours from our hotel to the garden).
Beijing
Forbidden City: Don’t go—I know it’s a shame, but it’s too crowded. I couldn’t buy tickets on the official site because of the kids’ passports. We ended up with a guided tour, the only way to get in (tickets sell out fast). The visit was disappointing—bad guide *and* massive crowds. You’ll queue a lot to enter and see certain areas. You’ll be checked often, so pack your bags carefully.
Great Wall at Mutianyu: Crowded. Two hours by bus, and even though we arrived early, people were already leaving! I really think the best option is to leave your big bags in Beijing and stay overnight near the Wall. That way, you’ll have it to yourself a bit more. For transport: get off at Tiananmen Square metro and look for buses with official guides in bright yellow-green vests. No need to buy tickets online—they made me cancel mine to rebook on the spot. Buses leave when full. Note: the cable car and chairlift are separate—if you want to go up one side and down the other, you’ll need different tickets. The endless queue for the toboggan ride put us off.
Quick tip: Incredible swimming spot in Beijing—on the north shore of Houhai Lake, you can swim by crossing the barrier. We did it twice with about ten other people. Bring a swimsuit!
Shapotou Desert
Amazing, but it gets *very* hot in the afternoon. We had a tent (not an air-conditioned bungalow), which was unbearable during the day. We hung out in the restaurant.
The paid activities are fun, except the camels—they look sad. The real highlight is the evening and sunset. The only downside: you can’t explore the desert alone or far—they don’t rent 4x4s, for example.
We stayed at "The Desert Camping Hotel of the Proprietress of Shapotou." They were lovely.
Zhongwei
Gaomiao Temple and its underground: Fun and short—you’ll see quirky Buddhist hell paintings.
Xi’an
Terracotta Army: We took a Didi because for four people, a car was almost the same price as four shuttle tickets. It was packed—chaotic to see properly.
We visited the halls in order: 3, 2, then 1—a good choice.
Hua Shan Mountains: Left before sunrise to arrive when the ticket office opened (7 AM, I think). We were shocked to see so many people already coming down.
45 minutes by bus to the west cable car, then 15 minutes up.
We did the west, south, east, central, then north peaks (in that order) before taking the other cable car down (you can buy the ticket at the top). A beautiful day.
In the city, check out...
Chengdu
Panda Research Center: Like Hua Shan, plan to arrive when the ticket office opens. Already *tons* of people, and it moves fast to see the big pandas before their nap. Have them drop you at the west entrance (not south), or you’ll have to walk uphill.
Leshan Giant Buddha: Interesting. The trip is a bit long (metro, then train, then city bus, then shuttle on-site). We didn’t take the boat option but walked. In the end, you only spend a few minutes at the Buddha’s feet, but it’s a nice day out.
Hotel tip: Panda Enjoy Home Hotel Apartments (Chengdu East Railway Station Dongda Road Branch). The view is insane, and the neighborhood is super convenient and nice. 646 CNY for 2 nights.
Swimming: The municipal pool is an interesting experience, but don’t expect to swim—no one does. Everyone just splashes around where they can stand. The hours are a bit odd, with a break in the late afternoon.
Kunming
The bike path along Dian Lake is pretty and often well-protected from cars. But like everywhere in China, it’s *packed*. Not much to say about visits—the flower market is a wholesale market, not very interesting. The ethnic minorities museum closed right in front of us.
All the big malls are good for shopping.
Dali
We thought we could bike around the lake in two days. Wrong on two counts: First, the lake’s edge is blocked to traffic and reserved for bikes (or tourist mini-buses). So you’re stuck on the main road, which never gives you a view of the lake, with all the trucks and cars. Doing 120 km like that wouldn’t make sense, in our opinion. The rice fields around are nice but not as impressive as elsewhere, so Dali isn’t worth it for that.
The old town, all restored, is pretty but *packed*—thousands of people, especially in the evening.
Hekou (Vietnam border)
Comfortable train from Kunming. In the parking lot, a bus (not well-marked, but Didi is an option) takes you to the border in 15–20 minutes. Short wait at both border posts. Fun to see the two lampposts near the border line: the Chinese one is new, modern, with a surveillance camera (of course), while the Vietnamese one is old and a bit rusty.
VIETNAM
General:
- You’ll need the Grab app for taxis
- Very disappointed with 12Go—it doesn’t show all buses, never connects you with the company, and refuses refunds. Try booking directly with companies like FUTA Bus instead.
- Credit cards are often accepted (supermarkets and modern stores), otherwise, you’ll need cash
Lao Cai
2 km between the border and the train station.
The sleeper bus to Hanoi with Sao Viet is well-organized—it works.
Hanoi
Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum closes early (10:30 AM, I think).
Women’s Museum: Very good, not too long
Temple of Literature: Beautiful, fairly quick
This is where you should buy souvenirs, clothes, and knockoffs—the prices are reasonable, and the sellers are nicer than elsewhere. We recommend Cho Dong Xuan.
Tu Long Bay
We did 2 days, 1 night (so really 24 hours on the boat) with Parfum d’Automne (French-speaking agency), which put us on a Cycad Cruise boat. Cost: 300 € per person—expensive, but it was amazing, super luxurious, and the buffet meals were delicious. We don’t regret the splurge. The only downside: no swimming in the bay (but there’s a pool on the boat). To swim, you’d need a 3-day, 2-night trip to an area not protected by the maritime park.
Phong Nha
If you didn’t do the northern mountains due to time or weather (like us), Phong Nha is a great stop for a motorbike ride. It’s beautiful, especially the mountains west of the city toward the caves.
There are two (small) swimming spots at the Botanic Garden—a pleasant 45-minute walk without stops.
Hotel tip: Sunbeam Village (very friendly, pool, breakfast by the river, motorbike rentals)
Da Nang
Hotel tip: Meridians by Hsuite—you’ll have the beach almost to yourself. You’ll still need to walk 15–20 minutes to the hyper-touristy area if you want to rent surfboards (150–200k VND per hour).
The beach is beautiful, and the water is 30°C—great for a break on a long trip, especially since all transport goes through Da Nang.
Hoi An
45 minutes from Da Nang, so it’s easy to visit in a day, especially since the city isn’t that big and it’s *very* hot.
Cooking class: MS Hanh cooking class—great (the market tour is a bit useless). We don’t recommend the "basket boat" tour—it’s a bit sad on a big brown pond with elderly guides.
Ho Chi Minh City
Ben Thanh Market is a nightmare: starting prices are exorbitant, and the vendors are aggressive. Don’t go.
The War Remnants Museum can be really tough for kids.
Can Tho
Avoid this city. We made the mistake of going to see the floating market—don’t.
Chau Doc
No Grab in the city, but regular taxis.
One day is enough if you go early to the forest and the mountain in the late afternoon.
250k VND per person for the forest and its canals (45 minutes by motorbike)
The sunset at Victoria Nui Sam can be magnificent if the clouds cooperate.
Cheap and good restaurant: Quan Nem Nuong Sau Hiep
Hotel tip: Homestay Khoa (2,250,000 VND for 3 nights)—adorable hostess, full of tips, clean rooms.
The speedboat to Cambodia is more comfortable than a bus. Book with Hangchau a few days in advance—payment in cash on the day (1,640,000 đ).
CAMBODIA
General:
- Issues with the "Bakong Tourists" app—we had to go to a big bank to load money onto it. We barely used it afterward.
Phnom Penh
For us, a day and a half is enough if you want to spend more time elsewhere.
Markets close early (around 6 PM) and are less interesting than in Hanoi, for example.
The Royal Palace has a break from 11 AM to 2 PM, but there aren’t many people in the afternoon.
Siem Reap
Trip with Capitol company—the bus is basic but cheap. Departs at 10:15 AM, 7-hour ride.
Angkor entrance fee: 62 USD per person for a 3-day pass. Tickets are picked up at Angkor Enterprise.
Renting two 125cc motorbikes: 10 USD each, plus 7 USD for gas.
By bike, it took me 25 minutes to reach Angkor Wat’s pools. A basic city bike rental was 1 USD per hour.
Short circuit by motorbike (in reverse): 7 hours with stops everywhere.
Grand tour by tuk-tuk: Only 5 temples, 4.5 hours.
If you want to see lots of monkeys, they’re grouped west of Bayon.
For the temples, we asked Gemini (AI) at each stop to point out details that might interest kids (who can get bored with the repetition). It gave fun facts and things to look for—great for the little ones.
Hotel tip: The Five Senses, run by a Frenchman, Bruno, who knows Cambodia inside out and organizes tours.
Restaurant tip: Wild (only spring rolls, but *so* many varieties—delicious and cheap)
Watch out: 1 hour to the airport, 50 km from the city.
Show tip: The Phare Circus
I booked my trip from May 5 to 26, 2027. I’m starting to plan my itinerary and look for hotels (I know it’s early!). While I’ve found some in Seoul and Busan, I’m noticing that elsewhere—like Yeosu—most hotels aren’t available (on Booking.com, for example, almost all are unavailable). AI tells me not to worry because hotels in South Korea only open bookings 6 months in advance, so it’s normal to see most of them unavailable on booking sites.
Could you confirm this for me and, of course, reassure me (!)? Thanks so much.
philippe
We’re back from a one-month trip to China and wanted to share our itinerary. Hopefully, this can give future travelers some ideas for exploring this beautiful country.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City
Jinshanling → Great Wall
Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate
Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars
Fenghuang → riverside houses
Ping’an → terraced rice fields
Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces
Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains
Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung.
Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable?
We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change?
thanks
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS.
Could you recommend something?
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe
StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there...
But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it.
2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them.
3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days
Gyeongju: 2 days
Busan: 3 days
Jeju: 4 days
Seoul: 2 days
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo
1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked)
4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked)
2 nights in Osaka
4 nights back in Tokyo
I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno.
I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better.
Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited.
I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest?
Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?