Guide du R... en Asie du Sud-Est
by Nicolejacky
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Le guide du r... vous conduit tout droit vers les lieux sois-disant incontournables du tourisme de masse, malheureusement les voyageurs ne peuvent se passer de cette bible sans croire qu'ils ratent la moitié du voyage.
C'est comme ça qu'on se retrouve à Kao san road carrefour obligatoire des aventuriers de passage à BKK, en réalité, concentration de touristes dans un quartier dénaturé et sans intérêt. Je me demande pourquoi des gens font 15 000 kms pour se retrouver entre blancs dans un endroit qui ressemble à une rue du mont saint Michel ?
Tout les dix mètres, on vous y propose des massages bidons, des jus d'orange coupés d'eau et des souvenir au double du prix, mais depuis des années, on y voit toujours autant de monde !
La mode, cette année c'est de tremper vos pieds dans un aquarium rempli de petits poissons qui vont vous débarrasser de votre peau morte... et certains payent pour cette farce !
A Paris, les français se moquent souvent des japonnais en troupeaux qui prennent tous la même photo au même moment et remontent dans le car, direction la prochaine photo...
A BKK on peut rire aussi...mais pas des mêmes !
Votre avis ????
Jacky
Ah, tiens! Ils font ça aussi...
J'ai vu ça à Siem Reap cette année.
La mode, cette année c'est de tremper vos pieds dans un aquarium rempli de petits poissons qui vont vous débarrasser de votre peau morte...
La mode, cette année c'est de tremper vos pieds dans un aquarium rempli de petits poissons qui vont vous débarrasser de votre peau morte...
@+
Thibaut
C'est l'instinct grégaire, mais si ces touristes sont satisfaits, c'est le principal (pour eux et ceux qui en vivent). Personnellement, ça m'arrange car il suffit d'éviter ces concentrations qui ne sont pas si nombreuses pour voyager tranquillement. J'encourage donc tous les touristes à suivre scrupuleusement les conseils de leur guide papier.
Guide du routard ou non ? Pour me ballader un peu en Asie, j'ai rencontré des touristes bien différents et parfois terribles, guide du routard ou lonely (qui paraît-il fait plus intelligent...), valise ou énorme sac à dos, aucune importance, "l'habit ne fait le moine". Il faut arrêter les stéréotypes, des gens très bien, à l'écoute du monde, de ses merveilles et surtout de ses hommes, voyagent en organisé et d'autres, de véritables abrutis, voyagent seuls, critiquent tout, vont chercher l'hôtel le plus minable, l'endroit surtout pas référencé dans un guide, ils ont l'impression de vivre l'authentique, pur et dur, ils se croient être de vrais aventuriers. Au final, ils rencontrent surtout leurs "clones", sortent rarement de leur "petit monde", font beaucoup de bruit.
En conclusion, le guide du routard ou de n'importe quoi, n'est nullement responsable d'une attitude en voyage. J'utilise ce guide, pratique, pas lourd, pas trop cher, j'ai eu ma période "le routard c'est nul", mais j'y suis revenue. Il suffit de ne pas prendre à la lettre les indications, ne pas y être "collée", l'oublier parfois, et le reprendre si on se perds. Pour ce qui de BK, évidemment que Kao San Road c'est nul, mais nul pour qui ? quand on a 20 ans, c'est peut-être bien, rassurant, je n'en sais rien. J'aurai peut-être aimé à cet âge, soyons indulgents.
Je me demande pourquoi des gens font 15 000 kms pour se retrouver entre blancs dans un endroit qui ressemble à une rue du mont saint Michel ?
Nostalgie dudit Mont ?😎
C'est vrai que les étrangers se retrouvent souvent aux mêmes endroits (dodo, boisson, visite, miam miam) car tous les guides donnent à peu près les mêmes adresses et que les voyages courte durée (1 semaine à un mois) ne permettent pas trop de sortir des sentiers battus surtout quand c'est la première visite d'un pays.
Cela dit, c'est surtout vrai pour les lieux bas à moyenne gamme. La classe moyenne existe peu dans les pays en voie de développement. Quand les gens ont de l'argent, ils en ont alors beaucoup et ne fréquentent que les endroits les plus luxueux.
Pour se mélanger à la population locale, il faut donc souvent : - éviter les adresses données😄 - manger local (et avoir un estomac en béton🤪) - fréquenter les lieux les plus chers (et la bourse en conséquence...) ou les plus miteux 😉
Nostalgie dudit Mont ?😎
C'est vrai que les étrangers se retrouvent souvent aux mêmes endroits (dodo, boisson, visite, miam miam) car tous les guides donnent à peu près les mêmes adresses et que les voyages courte durée (1 semaine à un mois) ne permettent pas trop de sortir des sentiers battus surtout quand c'est la première visite d'un pays.
Cela dit, c'est surtout vrai pour les lieux bas à moyenne gamme. La classe moyenne existe peu dans les pays en voie de développement. Quand les gens ont de l'argent, ils en ont alors beaucoup et ne fréquentent que les endroits les plus luxueux.
Pour se mélanger à la population locale, il faut donc souvent : - éviter les adresses données😄 - manger local (et avoir un estomac en béton🤪) - fréquenter les lieux les plus chers (et la bourse en conséquence...) ou les plus miteux 😉
Le guide du r... vous conduit tout droit vers les lieux sois-disant incontournables du tourisme de masse, malheureusement les voyageurs ne peuvent se passer de cette bible sans croire qu'ils ratent la moitié du voyage.
C'est comme ça qu'on se retrouve à Kao san road carrefour obligatoire des aventuriers de passage à BKK, en réalité, concentration de touristes dans un quartier dénaturé et sans intérêt. Je me demande pourquoi des gens font 15 000 kms pour se retrouver entre blancs dans un endroit qui ressemble à une rue du mont saint Michel ?
Tout les dix mètres, on vous y propose des massages bidons, des jus d'orange coupés d'eau et des souvenir au double du prix, mais depuis des années, on y voit toujours autant de monde !
La mode, cette année c'est de tremper vos pieds dans un aquarium rempli de petits poissons qui vont vous débarrasser de votre peau morte... et certains payent pour cette farce !
A Paris, les français se moquent souvent des japonnais en troupeaux qui prennent tous la même photo au même moment et remontent dans le car, direction la prochaine photo...
A BKK on peut rire aussi...mais pas des mêmes !
Votre avis ????
Jacky
EN INITIE ON DIT GUIDE DU CROUTARD !
EN INITIE ON DIT GUIDE DU CROUTARD !
La mode, cette année c'est de tremper vos pieds dans un aquarium rempli de petits poissons qui vont vous débarrasser de votre peau morte... et certains payent pour cette farce !
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Oui 500 bahts.J'ai pas peur des poissons mais des bacteries laissees par les precedents aussi je ne les nourris pas et gagne 500 bahts et un eventuel traitement en dermato.
Le guide du r... vous conduit tout droit vers les lieux sois-disant incontournables du tourisme de masse, malheureusement les voyageurs ne peuvent se passer de cette bible sans croire qu'ils ratent la moitié du voyage.
C'est comme ça qu'on se retrouve à Kao san road carrefour obligatoire des aventuriers de passage à BKK, en réalité, concentration de touristes dans un quartier dénaturé et sans intérêt. Je me demande pourquoi des gens font 15 000 kms pour se retrouver entre blancs dans un endroit qui ressemble à une rue du mont saint Michel ?
Ca n'est pas spécifique au Guide du Routard, le Lonely Planet te mène exactement aux même endroits.
Pas sympa pour le Mont Saint Michel...😏
Ca n'est pas spécifique au Guide du Routard, le Lonely Planet te mène exactement aux même endroits.
Pas sympa pour le Mont Saint Michel...😏
On peut...et je le fais régulièrement en messages privés pour ceux qui participent au forum d'une manière que nous aimons, c'est à dire ceux qui donnent autant qu'ils demandent. Mais pas pour tout, imagine que je donne l'adresse du petit village Karen ou nous allons depuis 20 ans ! Nous sommes les trois et quatrièmes blancs qu'il connaissent depuis notre première visite et je n'ai pas envie de changer cet équilibre ! mais si on peut aider, c'est oui !
... La mode, cette année c'est de tremper vos pieds dans un aquarium rempli de petits poissons qui vont vous débarrasser de votre peau morte... et certains payent pour cette farce !
Loin d'une farce, utilisé depuis longtemps dans des traitements des maladies de peaux en particulier au Centre Thermal de Kangal à Sivas, en Anatolie Centrale, apres il y a des dérivs dans tout !
Loin d'une farce, utilisé depuis longtemps dans des traitements des maladies de peaux en particulier au Centre Thermal de Kangal à Sivas, en Anatolie Centrale, apres il y a des dérivs dans tout !
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
La mode, cette année c'est de tremper vos pieds dans un aquarium rempli de petits poissons qui vont vous débarrasser de votre peau morte... et certains payent pour cette farce !
Combien le paie-t-on en Thailande?
Au VietNam, on le paie 40 000 dong, c'est à dire environ 2 dollars.
Combien le paie-t-on en Thailande?
Au VietNam, on le paie 40 000 dong, c'est à dire environ 2 dollars.
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Sympathique comme message, et helas bien digne d'une categorie de francais agressifs et mal eleves qui ns font une sale reputation dans le monde entier ! 😠 . En plus, si vs etes un(e) habitue(e) du Forum, je suis sur que vs avez remarque que le tutoiement est general, donc...
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Le guide du r... vous conduit tout droit vers les lieux sois-disant incontournables du tourisme de masse,
Je voyage de plus en plus sans guide papier et sans réservation (depuis toujours). Et je constate que les moto taxis, les chauffeurs de tuk vous amènent généralement, dans les mêmes endroits que ceux signalés dans les guides...La critique "bobo" du Guide du routard , même si il y a beaucoup de choses à critiquer, relève d'un néo snobisme . A mes yeux, il en vaut un autre , ni plus ni moins , à noter aussi que tous les guides ont "obligatoirement" une large base commune.
Je voyage de plus en plus sans guide papier et sans réservation (depuis toujours). Et je constate que les moto taxis, les chauffeurs de tuk vous amènent généralement, dans les mêmes endroits que ceux signalés dans les guides...La critique "bobo" du Guide du routard , même si il y a beaucoup de choses à critiquer, relève d'un néo snobisme . A mes yeux, il en vaut un autre , ni plus ni moins , à noter aussi que tous les guides ont "obligatoirement" une large base commune.
Roger
Je trouve que la critique systématique des guides papier et des touristes est un peu rapide.
D'abord, il faut quand même rappeler qu'un grand nombre de touristes voyagent en circuit organisé, et qu'il ya un moment dans un séjour où on se retrouve tous ensemble sur les mêmes sites, quelquesoit notre mode de voyage.
Ensuite, pour ceux qui utilisent des guides papier (personnellement j'aime bien les feuilleter, ça fourmille d'infos, il faut juste les trier), on se rend compte rapidement que de nombreux endroits répertoriés dans ces guides ne sont pas saturés de touristes, et parfois il faut juste un tout petit effort pour s'y rendre.
Exemple récent qui me vient à l'esprit: Koh Kret, répertorié à peu près partout, en plein Songkran, pas un étranger!
Ensuite, si des voyageurs apprécient de se retrouver entre Etrangers, ça permet aussi des échanges, d'une autre sorte.
C'est une autre forme de voyage, personnellement je n'y trouve rien à redire.
Et comme la critique porte souvent sur KSR, il faut tout de même rappeler que ce quartier n'est quand même pas trop mal placé dans BKK...
Sous le vacarme, la vie.
Exemple récent qui me vient à l'esprit: Koh Kret, répertorié à peu près partout, en plein Songkran, pas un étranger!
J'ai pour ma part découvert grâce au GDR, le seul guide à en parler, l'île de Koh dach qui est à Phnom Penh le pendant de Ko Kret à BKK...Trois ou quatre barang (falang) dilué sur 13 klm de long, 4 de large et au milieu de 25000 habitants .A croire que le GDR prends aussi des infos sur les forums !Et pourquoi pas ?
J'ai pour ma part découvert grâce au GDR, le seul guide à en parler, l'île de Koh dach qui est à Phnom Penh le pendant de Ko Kret à BKK...Trois ou quatre barang (falang) dilué sur 13 klm de long, 4 de large et au milieu de 25000 habitants .A croire que le GDR prends aussi des infos sur les forums !Et pourquoi pas ?
Roger
Exemple récent qui me vient à l'esprit: Koh Kret, répertorié à peu près partout, en plein Songkran, pas un étranger!
J'ai pour ma part découvert grâce au GDR, le seul guide à en parler, l'île de Koh dach qui est à Phnom Penh le pendant de Ko Kret à BKK...Trois ou quatre barang (falang) dilué sur 13 klm de long, 4 de large et au milieu de 25000 habitants .A croire que le GDR prends aussi des infos sur les forums !Et pourquoi pas ?
Salut Roger ,
Mais ça fait aucun doute , d'ailleurs le sujet à était évoquer il y a quelques temps et j'en suis persuadé .
J'ai pour ma part découvert grâce au GDR, le seul guide à en parler, l'île de Koh dach qui est à Phnom Penh le pendant de Ko Kret à BKK...Trois ou quatre barang (falang) dilué sur 13 klm de long, 4 de large et au milieu de 25000 habitants .A croire que le GDR prends aussi des infos sur les forums !Et pourquoi pas ?
Salut Roger ,
Mais ça fait aucun doute , d'ailleurs le sujet à était évoquer il y a quelques temps et j'en suis persuadé .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
Et l'essentiel n'est-il pas le partage et la rencontre?...Qui n'a jamais voyagé dans un pays X et ne s'est lié d'amitié avec un voyageur de nationalité Y ?
Totalement d'accord .
Totalement d'accord .
Roger
Exemple récent qui me vient à l'esprit: Koh Kret, répertorié à peu près partout, en plein Songkran, pas un étranger!
J'ai pour ma part découvert grâce au GDR, le seul guide à en parler, l'île de Koh dach qui est à Phnom Penh le pendant de Ko Kret à BKK...Trois ou quatre barang (falang) dilué sur 13 klm de long, 4 de large et au milieu de 25000 habitants .A croire que le GDR prends aussi des infos sur les forums !Et pourquoi pas ?
Salut Roger ,
Mais ça fait aucun doute , d'ailleurs le sujet à était évoquer il y a quelques temps et j'en suis persuadé .
Tu sais un guide vise d'abord la rentabilité et ce n'est pas les 500 guides environ (un exemple pour Cambodge-Laos sur deux ans) qui font tourner l'édition (idem pour les autres guides) donc problème des couts dans la recherche des infos. Je suis sûr que sur ces pays idem Birmanie, ils éditent à perte...Ils gagnent sur les grosses destinations...et ce n'est pas leur 500 ventes qui créent les destinations touristiques.
Bonne fin de journée.
J'ai pour ma part découvert grâce au GDR, le seul guide à en parler, l'île de Koh dach qui est à Phnom Penh le pendant de Ko Kret à BKK...Trois ou quatre barang (falang) dilué sur 13 klm de long, 4 de large et au milieu de 25000 habitants .A croire que le GDR prends aussi des infos sur les forums !Et pourquoi pas ?
Salut Roger ,
Mais ça fait aucun doute , d'ailleurs le sujet à était évoquer il y a quelques temps et j'en suis persuadé .
Tu sais un guide vise d'abord la rentabilité et ce n'est pas les 500 guides environ (un exemple pour Cambodge-Laos sur deux ans) qui font tourner l'édition (idem pour les autres guides) donc problème des couts dans la recherche des infos. Je suis sûr que sur ces pays idem Birmanie, ils éditent à perte...Ils gagnent sur les grosses destinations...et ce n'est pas leur 500 ventes qui créent les destinations touristiques.
Bonne fin de journée.
Roger
les bains de pieds:
Combien le paie-t-on en Thailande?
Au VietNam, on le paie 40 000 dong, c'est à dire environ 2 dollars.
j avais causé avec un abalone iln'y a pas si longtemps, qui disait qu'il n'y avait pas de prix fixés au vietnam, et que c etait bien ainsi... j'ai demandé dans un boui boui d'hanoi, on m'a dit 200 000VND, sympathique petit prix à touriste, comme au vietnam...
Combien le paie-t-on en Thailande?
Au VietNam, on le paie 40 000 dong, c'est à dire environ 2 dollars.
j avais causé avec un abalone iln'y a pas si longtemps, qui disait qu'il n'y avait pas de prix fixés au vietnam, et que c etait bien ainsi... j'ai demandé dans un boui boui d'hanoi, on m'a dit 200 000VND, sympathique petit prix à touriste, comme au vietnam...
Ca n'est pas spécifique au Guide du Routard, le Lonely Planet te mène exactement aux même endroits.
Ce n'est pas tout à fait vrai....
Le routard donne sutout des adresses bon marché à prix moyen alors que le lonely n'a aucun préjugé sur l'état de la bourse de son lecteur. Vous trouverez donc dans le lonely les hotels les plus chics et les restaus les plus chers qui ne sont souvent pas mentionnés dans le routard sauf pour les critiquer (dans le sens négatif...).
N'allez pas dans cet hotel, sauf si vous êtes en voyage de noces (ça c'est pour un hotel à 50 € soit le prix d'un trou à rats à paris)
Ne mangez pas dans tel restaurant, vous allez y laisser la paie de votre mois (pour un repas au prix d'une pizzéria en france...)
L'humour du routard est aussi souvent sujet à caution alors que le lonely s'en tient à une rigueur toute anglo-saxonne.
Ce n'est pas tout à fait vrai....
Le routard donne sutout des adresses bon marché à prix moyen alors que le lonely n'a aucun préjugé sur l'état de la bourse de son lecteur. Vous trouverez donc dans le lonely les hotels les plus chics et les restaus les plus chers qui ne sont souvent pas mentionnés dans le routard sauf pour les critiquer (dans le sens négatif...).
N'allez pas dans cet hotel, sauf si vous êtes en voyage de noces (ça c'est pour un hotel à 50 € soit le prix d'un trou à rats à paris)
Ne mangez pas dans tel restaurant, vous allez y laisser la paie de votre mois (pour un repas au prix d'une pizzéria en france...)
L'humour du routard est aussi souvent sujet à caution alors que le lonely s'en tient à une rigueur toute anglo-saxonne.
L'humour du routard est aussi souvent sujet à caution alors que le lonely s'en tient à une rigueur toute anglo-saxonne.
Ca fait longtemps que le pseudo humour du routard est passé de mode, depuis qu'il a été racheté, par Hachette en fait 🙁
Ca fait longtemps que le pseudo humour du routard est passé de mode, depuis qu'il a été racheté, par Hachette en fait 🙁
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
....Et Hachette qui se charge de faire pression sur les libraires pour que ceux-ci ne mettent pas en evidence le bouquin qui racontait ou plutot denonçait comment se passaient les enquetes menées par les membres de l'equipe du routard , le favoritisme envers certains restaurants et pour cause , etc..
Mr Gloaguen faisait une drole de gueule !!!
Quand j ai demandé à voir le fameux bouquin, les vendeuses que je connaissais bien m'ont racontée les "consignes " données =>, le bouquin avait été stocké sous une table .
Certains hoteliers ou restaurateurs modestes ( France, Afrique , Amsud , ... ) mais adresses demeurées fort convenables qui avaient disparu des editions suivantes m'ont raconté avoir refusé de ceder aux conditions imposées pour y figurer .Je me marre quand le Guide revendique une certaine ethique.
En France allez vous renseignez au pres des taxis stationnés en ville , eux ils vous donneront les bons tuyaux pour bien manger pour pas cher et dormir .
Un jour je vais aussi parler de "l'endormi " en charge de la mise à jour du guide Vietnam .
Cdlt Jean
Certains hoteliers ou restaurateurs modestes ( France, Afrique , Amsud , ... ) mais adresses demeurées fort convenables qui avaient disparu des editions suivantes m'ont raconté avoir refusé de ceder aux conditions imposées pour y figurer .Je me marre quand le Guide revendique une certaine ethique.
En France allez vous renseignez au pres des taxis stationnés en ville , eux ils vous donneront les bons tuyaux pour bien manger pour pas cher et dormir .
Un jour je vais aussi parler de "l'endormi " en charge de la mise à jour du guide Vietnam .
Cdlt Jean
Bonjour,
Je trouve que les guides sont très utiles pour avoir une idée de ce qu'on a envie de visiter dans un pays. Mon idée de départ était un circuit de 2 semaines vu chez Nouvelles frontières, du nord au sud du Vietnam et qui finit à Angkor. J'ai acheté 3 guides d'occasion: Routard, Petit Futé et Lonely Planet (l'avant-dernier, pas trouvé le dernier d'occase). Il y a bien une base dans ces guides, des lieux les plus touristiques, ce qui est normal. Ensuite, chacun a ses petites spécificités et c'est au lecteur de voir ce qui l'intéresse. Et puis, le complément indispensable c'est le forum, où on peut demander des précisions et savoir si on est au final intéressé pour visiter tel lieu.
Pour les hôtels mentionnés, je ne fais pas trop confiance aux guides car un hôtel peut avoir changé de proprio depuis l'élaboration du guide, et pour ça je préfère aller directement sur les forums.
Je trouve que la lecture de ces guides ouvre beaucoup l'esprit par rapport aux tours organisés qui sont toujours les mêmes. Quand j'ai eu fini de parcourir le Routard, j'ai regardé le circuit de NF en me disant: "je vais passer mes vacances dans les transports et pas avoir le temps de découvrir" et "je vais rentrée crevée!". Mon circuit de 2 semaines s'est transformé en 5 semaines: 3 semaines l'an prochain pour le centre et le nord, et 2 semaines plus tard (2012 ou 2013 si on peut). Bien sûr, on ne peut pas tout voir, mais si on avait pu prendre une année sabbatique, on aurait eu de quoi préparer un voyage d'un an à la lecture de ces guides.
Merci en tout cas au forum pour tous les conseils et infos qui sont indispensables.
Sylvie
L'humour du routard est aussi souvent sujet à caution alors que le lonely s'en tient à une rigueur toute anglo-saxonne.
Ca fait longtemps que le pseudo humour du routard est passé de mode, depuis qu'il a été racheté, par Hachette en fait 🙁
Je dois dire que ça fait longtemps que je ne l'achète plus.....
Ca fait longtemps que le pseudo humour du routard est passé de mode, depuis qu'il a été racheté, par Hachette en fait 🙁
Je dois dire que ça fait longtemps que je ne l'achète plus.....
j avais causé avec un abalone iln'y a pas si longtemps, qui disait qu'il n'y avait pas de prix fixés au vietnam, et que c etait bien ainsi...
j'ai demandé dans un boui boui d'hanoi, on m'a dit 200 000VND, sympathique petit prix à touriste, comme au vietnam...
Tu veux démontrer quoi par là?
Qu'en Thailande, l'attrape-touriste est plus sympathique, grâce au suppositoire?🙂
Tu veux démontrer quoi par là?
Qu'en Thailande, l'attrape-touriste est plus sympathique, grâce au suppositoire?🙂
http://www.maison-chance.org/
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
W've got home;
Pour le Routard, ca depend des pays : celui du Cambodge et du Laos n'est pas mal, celui du Vietnam est un poeme d'erreurs et de grossieres omissions, comme la region entiere de Ha Giang/Dong Van, qui s'avere etre la plus extraordinaire de tout le Vietnam.
Je ne suis pas d'accord que ts les guides se valent : le LP tient tres grand compte des lettres des lecteurs et est assez a jour (par contre, pour les descriptions culturelles, le Routard est superieur); je me balade donc avec les 2 (+ mon grand nez)
Je ne suis pas d'accord que ts les guides se valent : le LP tient tres grand compte des lettres des lecteurs et est assez a jour (par contre, pour les descriptions culturelles, le Routard est superieur); je me balade donc avec les 2 (+ mon grand nez)
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
pour les descriptions culturelles, le Routard est superieur
Bof bof pour les deux guides.🙁 Rien ne vaut un bon guide bleu qui kilomètres après kilomètres décrira toutes les merveilles rencontrées de la ruine ruinée au plus grand des sites archéologiques .... quitte à en friser l'overdose😉
En fait, j'ai remarqué que je préferai lire après coup les infos culturelles détaillées. Une fois la visite effectuée, j'ai envie d'en savoir plus et là, la lecture me passionne car je connais les lieux décrits et j'imagine mieux les anecdotes racontées.
Bof bof pour les deux guides.🙁 Rien ne vaut un bon guide bleu qui kilomètres après kilomètres décrira toutes les merveilles rencontrées de la ruine ruinée au plus grand des sites archéologiques .... quitte à en friser l'overdose😉
En fait, j'ai remarqué que je préferai lire après coup les infos culturelles détaillées. Une fois la visite effectuée, j'ai envie d'en savoir plus et là, la lecture me passionne car je connais les lieux décrits et j'imagine mieux les anecdotes racontées.
moi j avais acheter les deux..mais j ai preferer le lonely..
mais bon je l utilise surtout pour avoir des reperes sur la carte , grace a des endroit connue ou a visiter ..sur leur carte; ou pour avoir le nom de la rue ou de la ville ; sa sert pas mal a ce reperer en scoot..quant tu visite la region..
j ai acheter le lonely pour le laos...
la bonne taille c' est quand les deux pieds touchent par terre!!
Pour ces messieurs, la moralité devient rigide quand le reste ne l'est plus." coluche !!!
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Bonjour je souhaite diviser mon séjour en 2 parties soit 15 jours à phuket et 15 jours sur krabi. Savez-vous si je peux louer une voiture et la rendre a krabi lors de mon retour en France
Merci de vos retours
Bon dimanche
Martine
Hello,
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
I’m planning a trip to Laos in early 2027. Does anyone know the dates for the Vat Phou festival in Champasak? Thanks!
Bonjour précieuse communauté,
J'envisage de me rendre au Cambodge cet hiver, juste après Noël, pour un premier voyage seule, et mon premier voyage en Asie. Pour deux semaines (oui, je sais, c'est peu, mais je ne peux vraiment pas plus...). J'ai deux grandes envies: Siem Reap, et la campagne, les villages, le Mekong...
Que pensez-vous de cet itinéraire? Arrivée à Siem Reap, départ de Phnom Penh
SR: 5 jours (1 jour pour l'arrivée, 3 pour les temples, 1 pour le lac et ses villages)
Kratie (étape sur la route du Mondolkiri): 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours sur place)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 jours (1 jour de trajet, 1 jour sur place, 2 jours de treks)
PP: 3 jours (1 jour de trajet, 2 jours de visite)
Je pense qu'il faut que j'enlève un jour quelque part, si je pars du samedi au samedi, ou du dimanche au dimanche. A Kratie, peut-être? à PP? et je rate le trajet en bateau que tout le monde conseille (SR-Battambang), mais je ne vois pas où le caser. Sauf à faire un PP-PP en commençant par l'est, laisser tomber Kratie ou vraiment juste une nuit, puis SR, puis PP).
Dans mon timing, j'ai l'impression que le Mondolkiri est plus proche que le Ratanakiri, qui me tentait aussi beaucoup! Est-ce que cela restera pas trop compliqué toute seule? Je pense faire appel à des guides locaux, ou une petite agence locale, pour faire une escapade dans la nature et les villages.
Je lis qu'il y a beaucoup de monde à SR entre Noël et Nouvel An, je peux aussi faire le circuit dans l'autre sens. Mais je trouvais plus facile de me familiariser avec le pays en arrivant en territoire touristique, je me trompe peut-être...
Merci pour vos conseils et avis!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices? Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis? What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc. Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it? Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like? We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
Thanks for your feedback! Best regards, Aurélien
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Hi everyone,
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
Thanks
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days. I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome! I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Thanks
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Time to hit the road again!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali. And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people! So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops): - 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud 2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa) 1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...) - 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces) - 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai - 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed) - 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island) - 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan) - 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
Hello,
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!







