D'après ce que j'ai lu, les bus opentour vont de Hoi An à Hué en passant par les montagnes de marbre et le musée Cham à Danang. Quels sont les horaires de départ et d'arrivée de ce bus? Combien de temps a-t-on pour visiter le musée et pour rester sur les montagnes de marbre? Est-il prévu une pause déjeuner? Si on réserve 2 ou 3 jours avant, est-ce que ça suffit ou faut-il réserver par email avant de partir?
bonjour
je recherche exactememt le meme type de renseignements pour le faire dans l autre sens HUE - HOI AN
sur le site du tres celebre Sinh Cafe il y a quelques infos http://sinhcafe.com/english_info/info_opentour.htm
apparemment tous les bus open tour s arretent sur la plage de LANG CO
mais a-t-on le temps de faire une baignade ???
il y a une autre possibilite prendre une voiture avec chaufffeur, le trajet dure dans ce cas toute la journee avec plusieurs arrets (sources de l elephant, lang co, col de hai van). Je n ai pas teste mais on m a propose ce trajet pour 55$ (prix a diviser par le nb de pers maxi 4)
Je suis tres preneur de plus d'infos sur les arrets des bus open tour car la difference de prix n est pas negligeable
merci d avance
On voyage pour changer, non de lieu, mais d'idées.
(Hippolyte Taine)
apparemment tous les bus open tour s arretent sur la plage de LANG CO
mais a-t-on le temps de faire une baignade ???
Non, ce n'est qu'une pause pipi🙂
il y a une autre possibilite prendre une voiture avec chaufffeur, le trajet dure dans ce cas toute la journee avec plusieurs arrets (sources de l elephant, lang co, col de hai van). Je n ai pas teste mais on m a propose ce trajet pour 55$ (prix a diviser par le nb de pers maxi 4)
Le prix de 55 $ pour 4, cela m'étonnerait. 100 km et une journée complète sans compter le retour, il ne faut pas rêver!
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C'est qui, "on" ? Un chauffeur qui travaille pour lui ? Une agence ? Je ne serais pas etonne que ce soit $55 par personne, vu que les chauffeurs sont payes $60-65 par jour et que les agences ajoutent 20-30% de comm dessus (ou doublent carrement juste pour voir!)
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Il faudrait que l'on m'explique qqe chose. Le salaire moyen pour un vietnamien est de 45 €/mois. Alors quand on lit que 55€ pour la location d'une voiture pour 1 JOURNEE est trop peu chère, je n'y comprends rien ! je pense que certaines personnes de ce forum, (que l'on retrouve d'ailleurs sur d'autres forums de voyages sur le net) font en sorte de faire monter les prix et je subordore que ces mêmes personnes font partie d'agence de voyages ou tout au moins que leur job est dans le tourisme au Vietnam.
J'ai fait l'Inde, le salaire moyen est aussi très bas et j'avais loué une voiture avec chauffeur, 1 semaine, pour visiter le Rajastan, cela m'avait coûté 230 €. Je sais que l'Inde n'est pas le Vietnam, mais le salaire moyen est représentatif. Maintenant s'il y a des intermédiaires qui s'en mettent plein les poches c'est bien dommage. Mais faut pas non plus prendre le touriste "de base" pour une bonne poire. Bien souvent, le touriste style routard économise depuis longtemps pour faire un tel voyage alors faut pas le prendre pour un idiot. Je préfère laisser de l'argent directement à une oeuvre ou à la famille de mon filleul plutôt que de me faire avoir par des personnes qui profitent.
J'aimerais donc avoir quelques informations sur ce qui revient au chauffeur, exactement. Car à raison de 55 € par personne x 4 pour une journée, le salaire à la fin du mois est celui d'un patron de chez nous. Donc Abalone et Larsay, ce serait sympa, de m'expliquer tout ça.
Merci d'avance
Combien de temps durent les arrêts au musée Cham et aux montagnes de marbre? Est-ce qu'il y a un arrêt repas?
Les Open Bus n'ont pas d'arrêt au musée Cham ni aux montagnes de marbre🙂
Mais vous pouvez demander gentiment au chauffeur de vous laisser descendre (normalement il n'a pas le droit, il le fait à ses risques et périls).Ensuite, vous continuez votre route par vos propres moyens jusqu'à Hoi An.L'arrêt pipi à Lang Co dure quand même 30 mn, vous pouvez commander un Pho pour garnir votre Stomach!
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Merci Abalone. Je vais donc garder mon idée de prendre un chauffeur le jour de l'arrivée à Da Nang (vers 13h30 à l'aéroport) qui gardera les sacs à dos et nous emmènera au musée Cham, nous fera un tour de la ville (et nous attendra si on veut faire un tour à pied dans Da Nang) et ensuite les montagnes de marbre puis jusqu'à l'hôtel à Hoi An. L'agence nous propose 18 euros par personne pour la demi-journée. ça me parait un peu cher mais on n'aura pas envie de se casser la tête en arrivant et ça nous rendra un grand service, et on fera d'un autre côté des économies en prenant l'opentour de Hoi An à Hué. Est-ce qu'il y a un sincafé à Hoi An où on peut réserver? 3 jours à l'avance est-ce que ça suffit ou vaut-il mieux les contacter par internet?
Je me suis trompée, ce n'est pas le bus opentour qui s'arrête au musée cham et aux montagnes de marbre, ce sont les tours proposés sur les sites des hôtels, qui mettent 2h de plus.
Je pense que certaines personnes de ce forum, (que l'on retrouve d'ailleurs sur d'autres forums de voyages sur le net) font en sorte de faire monter les prix et je subordore que ces mêmes personnes font partie d'agence de voyages ou tout au moins que leur job est dans le tourisme au Vietnam.
Vous pensez tout faux ! Tous ces chauffeurs de 4x4 ne sont pas des employes conduisant le vehicule d'une agence. Ils sont proprietaires du vehicule, pour lequel ils se sont endettes jusqu'au cou. Avec leur salaire, ils doivent TOUT payer : rembourser le credit de la voiture, payer leurs hotels, repas, essence, reparations (pendant leaquelles ils perdent leur outil de travail), contraventions (frequentes, et c'est 500 000 D a chaque fois, soit plus de 30 soupes), et je ne parle pas de la fatigue et de la tension nerveuse dues a des heures epuisantes de conduite sur de mauvaises routes pleines d'aleas (sans compter le fait qu'ils nourissent aussi une famille, et les familles viets, c'est pas du bon egoisme occidental "1 enfant, 2 max, pour que ca coute moins cher a elever" !). C'est d'ailleurs la raison pour laquelle je deconseille toujours de prendre une prestation bon marche quand un vehicule prive est implique; a $60-65 par jour, un chauffeur ne va surement pas risquer de casser ses 4 amortisseurs sur de petites routes defoncees, ni conduire 8-10h d'affilee !!!!
Donc, $55 -ou euros d'ailleurs- pour une journee entiere est effectivement surprenant, surtout si ca inclue des repas etc..
Ceci dit, il est evident que certaines agences et TO exagerent les prix, mais ce n'est pas le chauffeur qui en profite, croyez-moi !
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Je vais donc garder mon idée de prendre un chauffeur le jour de l'arrivée à Da Nang (vers 13h30 à l'aéroport) qui gardera les sacs à dos et nous emmènera au musée Cham, nous fera un tour de la ville (et nous attendra si on veut faire un tour à pied dans Da Nang) et ensuite les montagnes de marbre puis jusqu'à l'hôtel à Hoi An
Je ne serais pas aussi imprudent que vous de confier mes bagages à quelqu'un dont je ne connais pas l'origine. A la rigueur, s'il s'agit d'un chauffeur attitré de l'hôtel, je veux bien, mais ne laissez pas vos bagages dans une voiture de location ou dans un taxi pour aller visiter un musée.
st-ce qu'il y a un sincafé à Hoi An où on peut réserver? 3 jours à l'avance est-ce que ça suffit ou vaut-il mieux les contacter par internet?
Vous pouvez juste réserver la veille avec l'aide de la réception de l'hôtel. Ce n'est pas Sinh Café qui assure eux-memes ce trajet, elle passe sous contrat avec d'autres compagnies.
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Pas n'importe quel chauffeur: celui de l'agence qui nous organise le tour en montagne et dans la baie d'Halong. Justement pour éviter de laisser nos affaires à un chauffeur de taxi ou à quelqu'un d'autres. Mais quand on aura choisi l'hôtel je peux leur demander aussi quel serait le tarif, si c'est possible que leur chauffeur nous attende à Da Nang le temps de visiter le musée et faire un petit tour de la ville pour nous dégourdir les jambes et aussi une petite heure aux montagnes de marbre.
quand on aura choisi l'hôtel je peux leur demander aussi quel serait le tarif, si c'est possible que leur chauffeur nous attende à Da Nang le temps de visiter le musée et faire un petit tour de la ville pour nous dégourdir les jambes et aussi une petite heure aux montagnes de marbre.
Le tarif habituel c'est autour de 10 - 14 dollars par personne de Danang à l'hôtel (ça peut être une voiture 4*4 mais aussi un minibus, le tarif par personne est le même). Vous pouvez négocier à 10 dollars, si vous restez plusieurs nuits. Mais l'hôtel ne peut pas se permettre de vous attendre pour vous laisser visiter le musée.
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C'est qui, "on" ? Un chauffeur qui travaille pour lui ? Une agence ? Je ne serais pas etonne que ce soit $55 par personne, vu que les chauffeurs sont payes $60-65 par jour et que les agences ajoutent 20-30% de comm dessus (ou doublent carrement juste pour voir!)
D abord merci a tous pour vos reponses rapides !
Voici les prix que je me suis fait comfirmer pour ce circuit =
- 55 dollars pour 2
- 60 dollars pour 4
Ces prix m ont ete donne aujourd hui meme par un hotel (Binh Duong III) et une agence citee par le Lonely Planet (Cafe On Thu Wheels), tous deux situes dans une petite impasse qui donne sur la rue Nguyen Trip Phuong a HUE !!!
Bon, en tout cas nous ne testerons pas cette prestation... On prendra demain matin le bus Open Tour classique !
On voyage pour changer, non de lieu, mais d'idées.
(Hippolyte Taine)
Ces prix m ont ete donne aujourd hui meme par un hotel (Binh Duong III) et une agence citee par le Lonely Planet (Cafe On Thu Wheels), tous deux situes dans une petite impasse qui donne sur la rue Nguyen Trip Phuong a HUE !!!
Je me méfie de ces prix, même si l'hôtel vous le dit!
A la rigueur c'est le prix d'acheminement de Huê à Hoi An avec arrêt photo sur les quelques arrêts, mais pas le prix d'une journée pour le chauffeur et la voiture.
En tout cas, si vous rencontrez des difficultés avec le chauffeur lors de ces longues attentes et qu'à l'arrivée, il vous réclame plus, sachez qu'il y a malentendu dès le départ et que ce n'est pas la faute du chauffeur qui ne réclame que son dû (et je n'aime pas qu'on vienne sur VF pour parler d'arnaque🙂)
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pourquoi se méfier quand les prix sont corrects ! je redis ce que j'ai dit plus haut, 60 € pour une journée est 1 fois 1/2 le salaire moyen mensuel. Alors Larsay l'a bien dit, il faut payer la voiture, etc etc etc.... mais franchement faut pas nous prendre pour des imbéciles. On prend le touriste pour une vache à lait alors que bien souvent il s'est lui même serré la ceinture pour se payer ce voyage. J'ai eu l'expérience en Inde, là bas aussi, le chauffeur doit se payer sa voiture etc.... et pourtant les prix n'ont rien à voir. J'ai prévu de donner de l'argent là bas, mais pas de me faire arnaquer.
Si Abalone n'est pas content que je parle d'arnaque, tant pis pour lui, il ne descend pas de la dernière pluie je suppose et il doit savoir que partout y a de l'arnaque, ici chez nous comme ailleurs. Alors faut appeler un chat un chat et pas tourner autour du pot.
je pense que certaines personnes de ce forum, (que l'on retrouve d'ailleurs sur d'autres forums de voyages sur le net) font en sorte de faire monter les prix et je subordore que ces mêmes personnes font partie d'agence de voyages ou tout au moins que leur job est dans le tourisme au Vietnam.
Ta réflexion est aussi déplacée que le reste de tes argumentations🙂
Depuis plus de 2 ans, je ne participe à aucun forum de voyage autre que VoyageForum et que ma profession me permet de gagner ma vie, plus qu'aucune agence de voyages ne serait à la hauteur pour me rénumérer pour un dixième de ce que je gagne.
Le salaire moyen pour un vietnamien est de 45 €/mois
D'où est-ce que tu tiens ces chiffres?
Il ne faut pas confondre ni le salaire minimum légal, ni la moyenne des salaires, ni la médiane des salaires.
Le salaire minimum légal est un salaire fixé par décret ministériel. Si tu crées une entreprise au ViêtNam et que tu proposes d'embaucher le personnel au salaire minimum, tu ne trouveras personne pour travailler.
N'oublies pas que le système des prix au viêtnam est libre et c'est la loi de l'offre et de la demande. Au viêtnam, l'offre d'embauche est supérieure à la demande, ce pourquoi personne ne travaille pour ce salaire minimum. Par comparaison, ce n'est pas le cas en France, où la situation de l'emploi fait que mêmes les diplômés universitaires acceptent soit un stage "bidon" pour être payé au tiers ou à la moitié du salaire minimum, soit un emploi en bonne et due forme, payé au smic.
La moyenne des salaires n'a aucune signification, si ce n'est que le résultat d'un calcul de la division de la masse globale des salaires par le nombre de salariés. Aucune utilité dans aucune étude économique.
La médiane des salaires est en revanche plus utile, c'est le salaire qui correspond à plus de 50% des personnes salariées. Elle réflète le pouvoir économique des consommateurs du pays.
Je sais que l'Inde n'est pas le Vietnam,
Je ne connais pas l'Inde, donc je m'abstiens de porter aucun commentaire sur ce pays, comme j'invite tous ceux qui ne connaissent pas le ViêtNam d'en faire autant.
le touriste style routard économise depuis longtemps pour faire un tel voyage alors faut pas le prendre pour un idiot.
Un idiot n'est pas un touriste qui voyage mais une personne qui ne sait pas réfléchir!
J'aimerais donc avoir quelques informations sur ce qui revient au chauffeur,
Des prunes!
Une voiture au ViêtNam coûte aussi cher qu'en France, si ce n'est pas plus quand elle est importée et non construite au ViêtNam.
Elle coûte généralement entre 30 000 et 40 000 dollars. Le coût du carburant vaut les 2/3 de ce qui coûte en France. Ce sont les 2 postes les plus importants.
Le km en taxi coûte 0,45 Euros.
Le trajet entre Huê et Hoi An fait 100 km environ. Il faut tenir compte du prix pour le retour de la voiture à son départ à Huê. Cela fait 200 km, donc 90 Euros, c'est à dire 115 dollars en taxi.
Lorsque l'on loue la voiture (et non un taxi) pour une ballade comme suggérée dans le sujet de ce post, le coût de location quotidienne est de 100 dollars par jour, c'est à dire 77 Euros.
Voici les prix que je me suis fait comfirmer pour ce circuit =
- 55 dollars pour 2
- 60 dollars pour 4
Je soupçonne que c'est le prix d'acheminement et non le prix de ballade avec de longs arrêts pendant le parcours durant toute une journée.
Ce prix est nettement inférieur au prix généralement pratiqué. Il doit y avoir maldonne. Et je ne serai pas surpris qu'il y aura contestation à l'arrivée. C'est un sujet qui revient en permanence concernant le ViêtNam. Les négociations au départ ne sont pas clairement exprimées.
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En juillet 2009, j'ai fait le trajet inverse Hue - Hoi An en moto pour 35USD, avec des arrets partout : cascades de l'éléphant ( largement le temps de se baigner ), plage de Lang Co (idem), col de Van , montagne de marbre, ...
Mon problème était que je voulait absolument passer par le Col des Nuages, que ni les bus ni le train n'y passent plus , et, que je n'avais pas les moyens de payer une voiture avec chauffeur pour moi toute seule.
Moto confortable et chauffeur prudent et adorable, aux petits soins, jouant le role de reporter ( je lui ai confié mon appareil et de temps en temps il s'arrêtait au bord de la route pour une photo ).
Comme mon sac était trop gros , il l'a emmené au bus et est allé le récupérer après notre arrivée à l' hotel.
Moi qui avais un peu peur en moto, j'ai été ravie de cette ballade, du coup, après je ne prenais plus que des motos; c'est tellement plus sympa qu'un bus ou un taxi avec la clim à fond et les vitres teintées 😉.
Celà peut être une solution pour vous, si vous avez envie de sortir un peu des sentiers battus, votre hotel doit pouvoir vous arranger çà.
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Bonjour
Apres 1 nuit à Khao Sok je souhaite trouver un package 2 Jours 1 nuit sur le lac.
Après avoir beaucoup lu, je décide de "casser la tirelire" et nous offrir un tour Privé surtout pour éviter les bains de foule.
Mais en contactant plusieurs opérators, on me propose des "private tours" très chers (env 700 €) mais dans les détails les bateaux ne peuvent que partir de l'embarcadère à 10h du mat comme tous les autres. (Moi j'espérais partir très tôt). Le programme du matin est le même pour tt le monde aussi (privé ou non). On nous dépose à Midi à notre hotel flottant (j'avais choisi le Phupha waree). Après midi libre (baignade ou kayak devant l'hotel. On resort en bateau pour le coucher de soleil 1h. Et le matin on quitte l'hotel à 8h pour être à l'embarcadere à 9h30 max FIN du voyage
Donc en fait on paye cher un Private tour pour faire la mm chose que tt le monde et en mm temps.
Ou alors je suis mal tombé dans mes recherches.
J'ai contacté Panida Ladi très populaire sur les forums . On s'était mis d'accord sur un circuit privé qui collait a ma demande (départ de l'embarcadere à 8h00....., circuit très personalisé). On s'est mis d'accord sur le circuit et le prix, m'a demandé un virement par wise pour un acompte de 30%, a confirmé la réception de l'acompte . Puis 30mn plus tard m'a envoyé un message pour me dire qu'elle annulait tout car il lui était impossible de faire le tour demandé, et m'a promis le remboursement rapide de mon acompte.
J'en viens donc à ma demande : Qui a fait un vrai tour privé sur ce lac ? Qui peut me conseiller une agence sérieuse ? Est il vraiment possible de faire un tour privé en fait sur ce lac....
Bonjour,
Je voulais avoir des informations sur le télépherique et le pont , je vois pleins d'options differentes ..
Combien de temps prévoir pour faire ces 2 activités ? Si on arrive vers 16h as t'on le temps de visiter sans courir?
Merci
I’m searching for a real gem for my 3rd stay in Koh Lanta: a lovely, high-quality hotel right by an easily accessible beach in a lively spot.
If you know of anything that fits what I’m looking for and want to share, don’t hesitate!
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi! I’d like to split my trip into two parts: 15 days in Phuket and 15 days in Krabi. Do you know if I can rent a car and drop it off in Krabi when I fly back to France?
Thanks for your feedback!
Have a great Sunday!
Martine
Hi, is anyone there in Flores right now? According to some websites, everything is closed and the situation is tough. But our guide says it's fine. Who should we believe? We're supposed to leave on September 2nd. Thanks to anyone in Flores at the moment!
Hi dear community,
I'm planning to visit Cambodia this winter, right after Christmas, for my first solo trip and my first trip to Asia. For two weeks (yes, I know it's short, but I really can't do more...). I have two main desires: Siem Reap and the countryside, the villages, the Mekong...
What do you think of this itinerary? Arrival in Siem Reap, departure from Phnom Penh.
SR: 5 days (1 day for arrival, 3 for the temples, 1 for the lake and its villages)
Kratie (stop on the way to Mondolkiri): 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days there)
Mondolkiri/Sen Monorom: 4 days (1 day of travel, 1 day there, 2 days of treks)
PP: 3 days (1 day of travel, 2 days of sightseeing)
I think I need to cut one day somewhere if I travel from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday. In Kratie, maybe? Or in PP? And I'll miss the boat trip that everyone recommends (SR-Battambang), but I don't see where to fit it in. Unless I do a PP-PP loop starting in the east, skip Kratie or just stay one night, then SR, then PP.
In my timing, Mondolkiri seems closer than Ratanakiri, which also tempted me a lot! Will it be too complicated alone? I'm thinking of using local guides or a small local agency for a nature and village getaway.
I've read that Siem Reap is very crowded between Christmas and New Year's. I could also do the circuit in the opposite direction. But I thought it would be easier to get familiar with the country by arriving in a touristy area—I might be wrong...
Thanks for your advice and opinions!
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hi everyone.
I’m planning my trip, and based on all the posts I’ve read, this country is amazing.
Of course, I’ve got a ton of questions for you.
Here’s a possible itinerary: Vientiane - Vang Vieng - Phonsavan - Sam Neua - Nong Khiaw + villages - Phongsali - Luang Namtha and the area - Udomxai - Huay Xai - Luang Prabang and back to Vientiane.
What do you think?
We’re planning to prioritize local transport—is it possible to do this loop?
We’d also love to go kayaking, but I’m not sure if the season’s right or where the best spot is.
For trekking—I read that Phongsali is the most authentic spot to visit villages and see wildlife. Do you know of a reliable agency and a guesthouse with reasonable prices?
Is it worth taking a slow boat for a stretch on the Mekong, and if so, which route?
For accommodations, is it better to book through Booking.com and Agoda or look when we arrive?
Are mosquitoes bad in Laos, and should we take malaria prophylaxis?
What’s the average daily budget (accommodation, food, visits)?
Is renting scooters a good option for exploring towns, and if so, which ones?
From what I’ve read, it’s best to carry cash—euros or dollars? Is it risky to walk around with that much cash?
I’ve still got tons of questions. Thanks to anyone who can help, and I’m open to all tips, info, etc.
Thanks again
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Vietnam in February, specifically Da Nang and Hoi An.
Does anyone know a French-speaking guide in the area?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hello,
We’re a family of four with two teens aged 16 and 18. We’re heading to Thailand this summer. We’ll arrive in Bangkok and plan to take a flight to Luang Prabang.
I’ve seen there are some great visits and excursions to do (temples, markets, waterfalls) and maybe even venture a bit north to places like Nong Khiaw, Muang Xay, Muang Ngoy, or Oudom Xay.
But I’ve also heard about the Bokeo region with the Gibbon Experience.
Since we won’t be able to do everything, I’d love to hear about your experiences, impressions, and advice on the two options I’m considering, especially since we’ll be meeting family in Chiang Mai, Thailand, afterward.
Option 1: A loop from Luang Prabang heading slightly north, then a flight from Luang Prabang to Chiang Mai.
Option 2: A few days in Luang Prabang, exploring within a few dozen kilometers around, then heading to Bokeo province for the 2-day/1-night Gibbon Experience. For this option, I saw on Rome2Rio that it’s possible to book a ferry trip on the Mekong from Luang Prabang to Huay Xay—they mention about 8 hours. But is that realistic? What type of boat is it?
Then, to get to Chiang Mai, there aren’t many options—bus or minivan—but how does crossing the border work?
Finally, for those of you who’ve been to Laos in August, what was the weather like?
We’ve already visited Thailand, Vietnam, and Cambodia during the same period over the past four years and weren’t really bothered by bad weather.
I’m starting a discussion about guides in the Mekong Delta because we’ve just finished our trip in this region and had a hard time finding a French-speaking guide. We had Thanh—she speaks French really well and travels all over the delta region, including Ho Chi Minh City. She’s super friendly and flexible. I recommend her wholeheartedly. If it can help someone...
Feel free to contact us for her number.
Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find any recent info on Kuching.
Can anyone recommend a hotel or guesthouse for under 100 RM that’s nice and affordable? No dorms, please.
Also, does it rain a lot in November, and is it still worth visiting Semenggoh or Bako?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
After a stay on Koh Phayam this coming November, I’d like to spend 2 or 3 days on Koh Phra Thong before heading further south.
Do you think it’s doable to leave Koh Phayam early enough to catch the 10 AM boat from Khura Buri to Koh Phra Thong? The next one isn’t until 4 PM, which would cost me a whole day.
I’m planning a trip to Indonesia, specifically Sulawesi and Java, in September for 10 days.
I don’t know this part of the world at all—any advice is welcome!
I’ll be traveling solo and would also love tips on meeting other travelers or locals.
Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
