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Trek au Ladakh: possible de dormir sous 3 000 métres?
by HaizeEgoa
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Nous aimerions atterrir à Leh (altitude 3500m) en juillet avec nos deux filles de 9 et 10ans et pouvoir dormir dans un village sous 3000m afin de s'acclimater plus facilement.
Est-ce possible sans passer par un col à 4000/4500m ?
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Bonjour
Je reviens juste du Ladakh que j'ai visité 2 fois.
Je ne crois pas que le problème d'altitude soit insurmontable pour des gens en bonne santé, encore moins pour les enfants plus adaptables que les adultes.
Les consignes données aux indiens qui arrivent des plaines par avion sont les suivantes.
3 jours d'adaptation. le jour d'arrivée : ne pas sortir de sa chambre, rester dans la maison ou marcher à proximité sans agitation. 2ème jour : marcher dans un petit périmètre toujours très lentement. 3ème jour : étendre ses activités. Boire beaucoup, voire énormément. En cas de mal de tête, prendre un aspirine pour la fluidité du sang.
Cela signifie qu'une fois arrivés à leh, le mieux est de se poser 2 à 3 jours et de laisser passer le temps !
Pour les villages à moins de 3000 m, il doit y avoir les villages darces à l'ouest de la vallée de l'indus 180 km de leh. Mais il faut une autorisation administrative qu'on obtient en 24 h à partir d'une agence de voyage et quand vous l'aurez, vous serez déjà adaptés. Les villages valent quand même la visite.
Bon voyage.
9 -10 ans c'est trop jeune pour monter si brusquement en Altitude la foramation n'est pas achevé
prenez l'avis d'un médecin spécialisé médecine du sport et montagne
Hasta la vista
Merci pour vos réponses.
Comme il n'est pas possible de nous acclimater dans un village tout près de Leh à 3000mètres , nous allons donc chercher
une autre destination avec nos deux filles.
Nous n'avons pas envie d'avoir de problèmes de santé avec nos enfants: elles peuvent très bien s'acclimater comme l'inverse... et dans cette vallée on est un peu coinçé car on ne peut redescendre rapidement niveau altitude.
Nous remettons donc à plus tard ce voyage au Ladakh...
Merci encore pour vos renseignements.
Nous n'avons pas envie d'avoir de problèmes de santé avec nos enfants: elles peuvent très bien s'acclimater comme l'inverse... et dans cette vallée on est un peu coinçé car on ne peut redescendre rapidement niveau altitude.
Nous remettons donc à plus tard ce voyage au Ladakh...
Merci encore pour vos renseignements.
Bonjour,
Avant d'emmener mon fils au Ladakh, j'avais demandé son avis au professeur (je crois "Richalet", mais sans garanti, ça date de quelques années) qui s'occupait de la mise en condition des himalayistes de haut niveau qui partaient en expédition.
Mon fils avait alors deux ans et demi, et il a pu faire son premier 5000, sur le dos d'un porteur ! Ce professeur m'a assuré qu'un enfant de 3 ans pouvait monter à 5000 m à condition de respecter une montée en altitude graduelle. Car contrairement à ce que je pensais, il m'a dit que les enfants s'acclimatent à l'altitude plus lentement que les adultes.
Le problème de l'acclimatation est totalement aléatoire. Vous pouvez très bien le subir alors que vos enfants n'auront aucun symptôme. Vous pouvez aussi ne rien avoir pendant des années, puis subitement une année être contraint à vous reposer et à prendre de l'aspirine pour calmer un mal de tête, puis ne rien avoir les années suivantes.
Avec du temps, on se garantit complètement en allant à Leh en bus ou en taxi, et s'arrêtant deux jours à Manali (2000m), puis deux jours à Keylong (3000m) avant d'arriver à Leh.
Passer un col, à 5000 m ou plus, est sans conséquence, à condition de ne pas rester à cette altitude. Après quelques jours à Leh, on peut passer ces cols sans souci, même à 9 ou 10 ans.
Les insuffisants cardiaques ou respiratoires demanderont son avis à leur médecin sans tenir compte de ce que je viens d'écrire.
Nous n'avons pas envie d'avoir de problèmes de santé avec nos enfants: elles peuvent très bien s'acclimater comme l'inverse... et dans cette vallée on est un peu coinçé car on ne peut redescendre rapidement niveau altitude.
Il y a a Leh tout l'équipement nécessaire au soin d'un MAM, nommément des caissons hyperbare. C'est coûteux mais si ça devait s'avérer nécessaire...
Partez donc tranquille 🙂
Il y a a Leh tout l'équipement nécessaire au soin d'un MAM, nommément des caissons hyperbare. C'est coûteux mais si ça devait s'avérer nécessaire...
Partez donc tranquille 🙂
Qui veut chasser une migraine n'a qu'à boire toujours du bon
Merci pour votre réponse.
Nous cherchons effectivement à nous acclimater progressivement avant d'arriver à Leh.
Après votre réponse , cela nous remotive d'aller au Ladakh .
Nous allons encore nous renseigner sur cette route Manali-Keylong-Leh : on pense prendre un avion Delhi.Manali ( si le temps le permet...), directement le lendemain matin de notre arrivée en Inde , après notre vol internationnal ( on va en choisir un qui arrive au milieu de la nuit) , se reposer à Manali 3 jours .
Puis ensuite prendre la route jusqu'à Keylong 2 jours de repos et enfin Leh.
Nous avons en tout 3 semaines en Inde ( du 24 juin au 14 juillet): une semaine pour arriver à Leh, une semaine pour quelques monastères ( fête à Hemis , si on arrive à temps ) , le baby treck , retour à Delhi en avion.
Petit crochet par Agra avant le retour en France.
Félicitations pour votre site: il est très complet , on voit que vous êtes un passionné du Ladadk
Au moins 6 ou 7 avions aterrissent a Lah chaque jour. Des centaines de touristes. Les cas de veritables maladies de l'altitude doivent se compter sue les doigts d'une main. Mais beaucoup de gens s'inquietent d'un mal de tete ou d'une nausee qui disparaissent apres max. 24 heures et sont des symptomes normaux de l'acclimatisation a l'altitude.
A mon avis, vous risquez nettement plus d'etre malades (la encore, pas gravement) en venant par le bus Manali Leh et ses cols bien au-dessus de 5000 metres (sans compter l'etat de la route); personnellement je deconseille pour le voyage aller.
la on parle d'enfants c'est juste un détail
je me répéte la consultation d'un médecin spécialisé devrait etre envisagée
je me répéte la consultation d'un médecin spécialisé devrait etre envisagée
Hasta la vista
Après bien des réflexions nous étudions la possibilité de passer par Srinagar afin d'éviter le passage des cols à 5000 m avec des enfants de moins de 10 ans.
Connaissez vous cette route ? Nous avons pu lire qu'il y a régulièrement des troubles politiques dans cette région...
Merci pour votre retour !
Connaissez vous cette route ? Nous avons pu lire qu'il y a régulièrement des troubles politiques dans cette région...
Merci pour votre retour !
tape situation au Cachemire sur google ou sur wikipedia .......................................🤪
Hasta la vista
C'est aussi une solution. Mais c'est beaucoup plus long.
La ligne de chemin de fer n'est pas encore terminée pour aller jusqu'à Srinagar.
On peut y aller en avion, sinon il faut combiner le bus ou le train de Delhi à Jammu, puis le taxi collectif ou le bus de Jammu à Srinagar, et me^me chose : taxi collectif ou bus de Srinagar à Leh.
Au sujet de la situation politique, il n'y a rien de constant.
En 2008, ily a eu de nombreux couvre-feux pendant l'été à Srinagar. Il fallait avoir la chance de passer entre deux.
En 2009, tout est resté calme.
En 2010, il y a eu des couvre-feux à répétition, il était quasiment impossible de passer.
En 2011, l'an dernier, tout est resté très calme. Ni couvre-feux, ni manifestations, le tourisme a recommencé doucement, et cet hiver toutes les stations de ski ont eu leur lot de touristes, bien que la neige soit arrivée tard.
Alors, pour cette année, c'est encore l'inconnu. De toutes façons, les touristes ne sont pas visés. Ce sont les indépendantistes qui qui s'enprennent à tout ce qui représente le pouvoir indien : armée, police, bâtiments administratifs.
Les pessimistes parieront sur les troubles, les optimistes sur le maintien du calme.
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I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge. I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle. In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
A few details: We arrive in early August and leave in early September. We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery! We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat? Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Thanks! :-)
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations. Thanks so much for your tips!
hi there,
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there? A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions? For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip... Thanks for your tips! Have a great day, Anie, Toulouse
Hi,
I’d like some advice on doing the Camino de Santiago—or part of it—from the Basque Country.
Best,
Hi there,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance





