Itinéraire 15 jours au Japon avec mon fils de 13 ans cet automne (premier voyage)
by Kaka70
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Je prépare un voyage de 15 jours au Japon avec mon fils de 13 ans fin Octobre 2018.
J'essaye au maximum de préparer mon voyage seule mais je manque cruellement de temps et j'aimerais avoir vos conseils sur certains points.
Après avoir passé pas mal de temps sur ce site j'ai décidé de suivre vos conseils et de me concentrer sur Tokyo et Kyoto. Je pense voyager en train.
Autour de Tokyo Je souhaiterais faire Hakone (en passant -ou pas ?- une nuit sur place dans un Onsen) Peninsule d'Izu, ...
Puis autour de Kyoto faire Nara et autre (pas eu le temps de regarder encore)
Je pensais passer 5 nuits à Tokyo puis 5-6 nuits à Kyoto et retour sur Tokyo pour 2 nuits avant le départ.
Question 1 : à vue de nez, pass JR -7 jours ou pas ? (je connais l'existence du site Hiperdia mais n ayant pas beaucoup de temps et n'ayant pas encore peaufiné mon itinéraire je me permets de vous demander ...)
2. Hakone , peninsule d'Izu : en day trip ou mieux de passer un jour sur place pour Hakone?
3. Il me semble avoir lu quelque part qu'au niveau logement il faut se loger près des gares (à tokyo je pensais loger dans Shinjuku, que pensez vous d'Ebisu si j'ai un JR pass?)
Et pour Kyoto, quel quartier me recommanderiez vous?
4.Est ce que faire une boucle par Miyajima ou Naoshima depuis Kyoto vous parait être de trop? En sachant que je n'ai pas envie de courir et de faire et défaire les valises...
Voilà, je vous remercie d' avance pour votre aide précieuse.
Je souhaite surtout réserver mes logements car le temps passe et je commence à me stresser pas mal pour ça.
Merci à tous.
à vue de nez, pass JR -7 jours ou pas ?
Bonjour,
Le JR pass de 7 jours est rentabilisé par un A/R Tokyo - Kyoto
je connais l'existence du site Hiperdia mais n ayant pas beaucoup de temps et n'ayant pas encore peaufiné mon itinéraire je me permets de vous demander...
"Je n'ai pas le temps, faites le travail pour moi". Vous en avez d'autres comme ça ? 😏 (Je me permets de vous demander...)
que pensez vous d'Ebisu si j'ai un JR pass?)
Les trajets urbains / suburbains ne justifient jamais un JR Pass, car il ne permet pas d'utiliser les lignes de métro. Ne prévoyez pas de prendre un JR pass de 14 jours; être près d'une gare JR n'est à mon avis pas un critère pertinent.
Est ce que faire une boucle par Miyajima ou Naoshima depuis Kyoto vous parait être de trop? En sachant que je n'ai pas envie de courir et de faire et défaire les valises...
Votre deuxième phrase fournit la réponse à la première. 😉
Je souhaite surtout réserver mes logements car le temps passe et je commence à me stresser pas mal pour ��a.
Ce qui doit vous stresser, c'est de constater qu'il y a zéro disponibilité dans beaucoup d'hébergements. C'est normal : les réservations ne sont souvent pas encore ouvertes aussi longtemps à l'avance.
Bonjour,
Le JR pass de 7 jours est rentabilisé par un A/R Tokyo - Kyoto
je connais l'existence du site Hiperdia mais n ayant pas beaucoup de temps et n'ayant pas encore peaufiné mon itinéraire je me permets de vous demander...
"Je n'ai pas le temps, faites le travail pour moi". Vous en avez d'autres comme ça ? 😏 (Je me permets de vous demander...)
que pensez vous d'Ebisu si j'ai un JR pass?)
Les trajets urbains / suburbains ne justifient jamais un JR Pass, car il ne permet pas d'utiliser les lignes de métro. Ne prévoyez pas de prendre un JR pass de 14 jours; être près d'une gare JR n'est à mon avis pas un critère pertinent.
Est ce que faire une boucle par Miyajima ou Naoshima depuis Kyoto vous parait être de trop? En sachant que je n'ai pas envie de courir et de faire et défaire les valises...
Votre deuxième phrase fournit la réponse à la première. 😉
Je souhaite surtout réserver mes logements car le temps passe et je commence à me stresser pas mal pour ��a.
Ce qui doit vous stresser, c'est de constater qu'il y a zéro disponibilité dans beaucoup d'hébergements. C'est normal : les réservations ne sont souvent pas encore ouvertes aussi longtemps à l'avance.
Bonjour,
Je prépare un voyage de 15 jours au Japon avec mon fils de 13 ans fin Octobre 2018.
J'essaye au maximum de préparer mon voyage seule mais je manque cruellement de temps et j'aimerais avoir vos conseils sur certains points.
Bonjour,
A 13 ans, votre fils est peut-être encore trop jeune pour faire les réservations (avion, hôtels) tout seul, mais pas pour avoir des idées de ce qu'il veut faire et voir ni pour se renseigner sur les lieux, hébergements, activités, etc.
Cela devrait vous épargner pas mal de travail de planification, ainsi que des récriminations quant à des choix qui, par définition, ne lui plairont pas (à 13 ans, les onsen, les lieux historiques, les temples à outrance, on en a vite 🙁).
Refilez-lui les sites suivants: https://www.tourisme-japon.fr, http://web-japan.org/index.html, http://travel.mapfan.com/lang/en/top
et les blogs: http://www.nippon.com/fr/, https://www.kanpai.fr, le vlog "ici Japon" (à vous de voir si vous jugez les sujets adéquats pour son âge)
un guide du voyage en train au Japon (en anglais, mais c'est pour son bien - et à mon avis, si on utilisait ce genre de documentation en cours au lieu des ennuyeux manuels habituels, les taux de multilinguisme seraient au plafond ...)
Ca devrait occuper ses vacances d'été à un usage plus profitable de l'ordinateur que les jeux vidéo 😉
Bonjour,
A 13 ans, votre fils est peut-être encore trop jeune pour faire les réservations (avion, hôtels) tout seul, mais pas pour avoir des idées de ce qu'il veut faire et voir ni pour se renseigner sur les lieux, hébergements, activités, etc.
Cela devrait vous épargner pas mal de travail de planification, ainsi que des récriminations quant à des choix qui, par définition, ne lui plairont pas (à 13 ans, les onsen, les lieux historiques, les temples à outrance, on en a vite 🙁).
Refilez-lui les sites suivants: https://www.tourisme-japon.fr, http://web-japan.org/index.html, http://travel.mapfan.com/lang/en/top
et les blogs: http://www.nippon.com/fr/, https://www.kanpai.fr, le vlog "ici Japon" (à vous de voir si vous jugez les sujets adéquats pour son âge)
un guide du voyage en train au Japon (en anglais, mais c'est pour son bien - et à mon avis, si on utilisait ce genre de documentation en cours au lieu des ennuyeux manuels habituels, les taux de multilinguisme seraient au plafond ...)
Ca devrait occuper ses vacances d'été à un usage plus profitable de l'ordinateur que les jeux vidéo 😉
Bonjour Florence,
Je te remercie pour tes suggestions, mon fils a lu ton message en même temps que moi, cela nous a bien fait rigoler!
J'approuve tout ce que tu dis mais tu sais, à 13 ans, ils ne sont pas très pro actifs malheureusement! Je vais bien évidemment faire en fonction de lui mais pas que, ce sont aussi mes vacances 😉
Nous allons regarder ensemble les liens que tu nous as gentilment donnés.
Merci encore!
Karine
..., mon fils a lu ton message en même temps que moi, cela nous a bien fait rigoler
Chouette, j'ai bien rempli ma mission ! 😎
J'approuve tout ce que tu dis mais tu sais, à 13 ans, ils ne sont pas très pro actifs malheureusement!
Oh, avec un bon fouet ... Euh, pardon 😊, avec les bonnes incitations ...
Je vais bien évidemment faire en fonction de lui mais pas que, ce sont aussi mes vacances
Vous avez bien compris, Jeune Homme ? Il n'y a pas que des mangas, des parcs d'attractions et des jeux vidéos, au Japon ! Et votre maman a aussi le droit de passer du temps dans l'une ou l'autre boutique et de visiter quelques temples et jardins !
Et il est fort possible que, comme mon neveu qui craignait une overdose de shopping et de visites culturelles, que vous y preniez goût. 😉
Chouette, j'ai bien rempli ma mission ! 😎
J'approuve tout ce que tu dis mais tu sais, à 13 ans, ils ne sont pas très pro actifs malheureusement!
Oh, avec un bon fouet ... Euh, pardon 😊, avec les bonnes incitations ...
Je vais bien évidemment faire en fonction de lui mais pas que, ce sont aussi mes vacances
Vous avez bien compris, Jeune Homme ? Il n'y a pas que des mangas, des parcs d'attractions et des jeux vidéos, au Japon ! Et votre maman a aussi le droit de passer du temps dans l'une ou l'autre boutique et de visiter quelques temples et jardins !
Et il est fort possible que, comme mon neveu qui craignait une overdose de shopping et de visites culturelles, que vous y preniez goût. 😉
(à 13 ans, les onsen, les lieux historiques, les temples à outrance, on en a vite 🙁)
Tu veux dire qu'à 13 ans, aller à poil dans un endroit où il n'y a que des hommes (à poil eux aussi) qui te regardent avec un oeil réprobateur, ça ne fait pas envie ? Ah bon... 😛
Tu veux dire qu'à 13 ans, aller à poil dans un endroit où il n'y a que des hommes (à poil eux aussi) qui te regardent avec un oeil réprobateur, ça ne fait pas envie ? Ah bon... 😛
une nuit sur place dans un Onsen
Une nuit dans des bains... quelle étrange idée ! Pourquoi ne pas dormir plutôt dans un ryokan avec onsen ? 😇
Il me semble avoir lu quelque part qu'au niveau logement il faut se loger près des gares (à tokyo je pensais loger dans Shinjuku, que pensez vous d'Ebisu si j'ai un JR pass?)
Se loger près des gares est logique quand on voyage en train. Mais c'est, à mon avis, surtout vrai à Kyoto, vu que la gare est vraiment un noeud central qui relie l'est à l'ouest.
Le JR Pass va te servir à aller à Kyoto et ne te servira pas beaucoup à Tokyo. Ebisu, pas de problème, bien sûr, comme énormément d'endroits à Tokyo...
Une nuit dans des bains... quelle étrange idée ! Pourquoi ne pas dormir plutôt dans un ryokan avec onsen ? 😇
Il me semble avoir lu quelque part qu'au niveau logement il faut se loger près des gares (à tokyo je pensais loger dans Shinjuku, que pensez vous d'Ebisu si j'ai un JR pass?)
Se loger près des gares est logique quand on voyage en train. Mais c'est, à mon avis, surtout vrai à Kyoto, vu que la gare est vraiment un noeud central qui relie l'est à l'ouest.
Le JR Pass va te servir à aller à Kyoto et ne te servira pas beaucoup à Tokyo. Ebisu, pas de problème, bien sûr, comme énormément d'endroits à Tokyo...
Des bains mixtes, il n'y en a pas beaucoup, et je n'en ai pas eu l'occasion d'en visiter.
Une possibilité est d'aller au Oedo Onsen Monogatari (Tokyo) ou au Spa World (Osaka). Vous pourrez y aller tous les deux et y rester ensemble (Dr Fish, boutiques, piscine, restaurants, etc.) en yukata, sauf pour les bains proprement dits où ce sera les H d'un côté, les F de l'autre...
Une possibilité est d'aller au Oedo Onsen Monogatari (Tokyo) ou au Spa World (Osaka). Vous pourrez y aller tous les deux et y rester ensemble (Dr Fish, boutiques, piscine, restaurants, etc.) en yukata, sauf pour les bains proprement dits où ce sera les H d'un côté, les F de l'autre...
Le 8 eme étage de spa world à Osaka est une piscine ludique mixte ou on doit porter un maillot de bains. De là haut, on a une belle vue sur la tour Tsutenkaku.
Mes 25 ans de séjours au japon! http://www.soleilrouge.org/
Okinawa et Miyakojima: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6477376;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Sakura: Balade de printemps: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6988760;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Oui, c’est le point fort du Spa World !
Mais bon, ça fait un peu piscine municipale...
Oedo onsen monogatari, lui, fait plus parc d’attraction.
Je n’ai pas (encore) testé LaQua...
Je n’ai pas (encore) testé LaQua...
Question 1: Je suis persuadé que, à 13 ans, il se captivera pour les recherches sur Hyperdia.
Deux petits conseils: a) à l'entame d'une recherche, et pour éviter de recevoir des infos inutiles, il faut, sur la grille en fin de page, supprimer tous les éléments qui ne concernent pas la demande précise (tels que: Airplane, Airport Shuttle, Nozomi, Sleeper) puis revenir sur "search"
b) faire fort attention à l'orthographe des noms de certaines gares qui peuvent comprendre des pièges. Par exemple: si vous voulez aller à Nara avec les trains express de la compagnie Kintetsu, il ne faut pas demander Nara (car celle-ci est la gare JR qui est moins près des temples) mais il faut écrire Kintetsunara en un seul mot. Par contre, pour aller de Osaka à Koyasan, les trains de la compagnie Nankai partent de la gare de Namba(Nankai) aussi en un seul mot mais le nom de la compagnie est après le nom de la gare et entre parenthèses. Mais la gare Shinkansen de Osaka s'écrit Shin-Osaka en deux mots avec un tiret. (Shin veut dire nouveau).
Question 2: Hakone + Izu est trop pour être fait en une journée. Par contre, pour éviter de toujours changer d'hôtel, chacune peut aisément être faites en une journée d'excursion de même que Kamakura. Pour Hakone je recommande d'y aller avec les trains Odakyu depuis Shinjuku puis de monter à Gora avec la ligne en épingles (switch-back) Tosan, ensuite en téléphérique pour
monter au point de vue et redescendre ensuite vers le lac Ashi pour poursuivre en bateau puis en bus pour retourner à Hakone-Yumoto et rentrer à Shinjuku avec Odakyu. On peut aussi aller à Hakone-Yumoto en shinkansen depuis Tokyo ou Shinagawa vers Odawara puis l'Odakyu pour rejoindre le Tosan.
Question 3: Il faut repérer les hôtels qui portent le mot "ekimae" dans leur nom (cela veut-dire "devant" (ou près) de la gare = eki)
Question 4: Miyajima (jima ou shima = île) fait partie intégrante d'une visite à Hiroshima qui est considérée comme le troisième site touristique de tout le Japon. Et le musée de la bombe atomique d'Hiroshima sera certainement d'un intérêt primordial pour le jeune homme de 13 ans. On accède au musée depuis la gare d'Hiroshima avec un tram 1, 2 ou 6 puis on continue avec un tram 2 jusque Hiroden-Miyajima-guchi où on prend le bateau pour l'île (20 minutes de bâteau). Il y a deux bâteaux: le JR accessible avec le Rail-Pass et le Hiroden accessible avec le ticket de tram d'un jour. (Hiroden est l'abréviation du nom de la compagnie des trams : Hiroshima Denki Tetsudo = chemins de fer électriques d'Hiroshima)
Bonnes recherches !
Clabin
Bonnes recherches !
Clabin
Bonjour Claude,
Que de détails concernant les transports, juste ce dont j'avais besoin! Un grans merci d'avoir pris le temps. Dès que j'ai 2 mn je vais me poser pour regarder tout ce dont tu m'as parlé. Il est possible que je revienne vers toi pour d'eventuelles questions!
Merci et bonne soirée.
K
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We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?
Hi there,
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
I'm planning a 19-day itinerary in Japan this summer.
For a first trip, Kyoto seems like a must. For the rest, I'm torn between:
- Matsumoto, Takayama, Kanazawa for 5 to 6 days
- Kyoto 4 days
- Nara 2 days
- Koyasan 1 day
- Hakone/Mount Fuji 2 to 3 days
- Tokyo 3 days
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Hi there!
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
Hi everyone who’s reading this!
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to you because I’m planning our next big trip (Japan is really tempting us for the autumn!) and I have to admit, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed.
My husband and I have always loved traveling, and at 75, we have no intention of stopping... But I find that everything’s getting so complicated. I try to be "modern" by booking online, but as soon as there’s a problem, we hit a wall.
A friend nearly missed her departure last year because of a visa issue that wasn’t explained properly on a website... and no one to call for help, just automated messages.
It makes me a little nervous to be alone in front of a screen so far away, especially since at our age, we like knowing there’s real support if our health takes a turn while we’re there.
Anyway, I’m tired of seeing my file passed from one person to another without ever having the same contact... Do you know of any small, trustworthy agencies or people who still work the "old-fashioned" way and really look after their clients? I love my independence, but I need a real face behind my project.
Thanks in advance for your advice, and I look forward to reading your replies, Catherine
I’m reaching out to you because I’m planning our next big trip (Japan is really tempting us for the autumn!) and I have to admit, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed.
My husband and I have always loved traveling, and at 75, we have no intention of stopping... But I find that everything’s getting so complicated. I try to be "modern" by booking online, but as soon as there’s a problem, we hit a wall.
A friend nearly missed her departure last year because of a visa issue that wasn’t explained properly on a website... and no one to call for help, just automated messages.
It makes me a little nervous to be alone in front of a screen so far away, especially since at our age, we like knowing there’s real support if our health takes a turn while we’re there.
Anyway, I’m tired of seeing my file passed from one person to another without ever having the same contact... Do you know of any small, trustworthy agencies or people who still work the "old-fashioned" way and really look after their clients? I love my independence, but I need a real face behind my project.
Thanks in advance for your advice, and I look forward to reading your replies, Catherine
Hi everyone,
I’m planning our trip to Japan from March 21 to April 11, 2026. We’re planning to travel by plane for long distances (Okinawa) and by train for the rest. I’d like to know if renting a car is easy and, most importantly, if driving with road signs written in Japanese isn’t too complicated. For trains, are there any tips to save money?
Thanks for your advice!
I’m planning our trip to Japan from March 21 to April 11, 2026. We’re planning to travel by plane for long distances (Okinawa) and by train for the rest. I’d like to know if renting a car is easy and, most importantly, if driving with road signs written in Japanese isn’t too complicated. For trains, are there any tips to save money?
Thanks for your advice!
hi everyone, and first of all, I wish you all a happy new year and good health!
This coming October or November, we’re planning our first trip to Japan. The only downside is we’ll only have two weeks off.
For this first visit, I’m thinking of sticking to the Kyoto and Osaka area… saving Tokyo for another trip. Do you think that’s a good choice for a first-time visit?
I’ve put together a little itinerary below to get some feedback from those in the know. I’m only counting the days we’re actually there, not travel days.
Day 1: Kyoto Ginkaku-ji – Philosopher’s Path with stops at a few shrines temples Eikan-dō and Nanzen-ji visit to the Samurai Ninja Museum in the late afternoon
Day 2: Kyoto Fushimi Inari (allow 4 hours for the hike through the park) visit to Sanjūsangen-dō temple Shōseien garden participate in a tea ceremony
Day 3: Kyoto Kiyomizu-dera temple stroll through the historic district up to Kennin-ji temple visit Kennin-ji temple Yasaka-jinja shrine and Gion district in the late afternoon return to the hotel via Pontochō Street
Day 4: Kyoto visit Kinkaku-ji and Nijō Castle visit the Imperial Palace gardens end the day in the shopping streets (Shibkyogoku and Teramachi, among others)
Day 5: Kyoto Arashiyama area Togetsukyo Bridge, walk along the river, visit the Bamboo Forest explore the area up to Otagi Nenbutsu-ji temple
Day 6: Kyoto hike from Kibune to Kurama
Day 7: Kyoto day trip to Nara (full day)
Day 8: stroll around Kyoto before heading to Osaka
Day 9: Osaka Katsuo-ji temple, then head to Minoh Falls and hike back via the Minoh Trail end the day in the Osaka Castle area
Day 10: Osaka Himeji Castle and an afternoon in Osaka
Day 11: Osaka Osaka and return to the airport in the late afternoon for the flight home
Do you think this itinerary is doable? Are some days too relaxed or too packed? I was thinking of adding a trip to Lake Biwa and Uji, but in that case, I’d have to cut some things. Are those places worth dropping some of the planned spots? And if so, which ones would you recommend cutting or shortening?
Thanks in advance—I’m all ears for both positive and negative feedback! stephane
This coming October or November, we’re planning our first trip to Japan. The only downside is we’ll only have two weeks off.
For this first visit, I’m thinking of sticking to the Kyoto and Osaka area… saving Tokyo for another trip. Do you think that’s a good choice for a first-time visit?
I’ve put together a little itinerary below to get some feedback from those in the know. I’m only counting the days we’re actually there, not travel days.
Day 1: Kyoto Ginkaku-ji – Philosopher’s Path with stops at a few shrines temples Eikan-dō and Nanzen-ji visit to the Samurai Ninja Museum in the late afternoon
Day 2: Kyoto Fushimi Inari (allow 4 hours for the hike through the park) visit to Sanjūsangen-dō temple Shōseien garden participate in a tea ceremony
Day 3: Kyoto Kiyomizu-dera temple stroll through the historic district up to Kennin-ji temple visit Kennin-ji temple Yasaka-jinja shrine and Gion district in the late afternoon return to the hotel via Pontochō Street
Day 4: Kyoto visit Kinkaku-ji and Nijō Castle visit the Imperial Palace gardens end the day in the shopping streets (Shibkyogoku and Teramachi, among others)
Day 5: Kyoto Arashiyama area Togetsukyo Bridge, walk along the river, visit the Bamboo Forest explore the area up to Otagi Nenbutsu-ji temple
Day 6: Kyoto hike from Kibune to Kurama
Day 7: Kyoto day trip to Nara (full day)
Day 8: stroll around Kyoto before heading to Osaka
Day 9: Osaka Katsuo-ji temple, then head to Minoh Falls and hike back via the Minoh Trail end the day in the Osaka Castle area
Day 10: Osaka Himeji Castle and an afternoon in Osaka
Day 11: Osaka Osaka and return to the airport in the late afternoon for the flight home
Do you think this itinerary is doable? Are some days too relaxed or too packed? I was thinking of adding a trip to Lake Biwa and Uji, but in that case, I’d have to cut some things. Are those places worth dropping some of the planned spots? And if so, which ones would you recommend cutting or shortening?
Thanks in advance—I’m all ears for both positive and negative feedback! stephane